In short
The episode argues Democrats should prepare an impeachment case against Donald Trump immediately if they regain the House, calling it popular and necessary given Trump’s normalized behavior. It claims establishment Democrats (e.g., Chuck Schumer) are too cozy with lobbyists/APAC and Palantir, framing this as “fascist collaboration.” It cites a Verisite poll saying 55% of adults support impeaching Trump. It also argues for broader “guardrails” beyond impeachment: Supreme Court reform, electoral college abolition, overturning Citizens United, and laws nullifying presidential pardons used to shield crimes. It discusses Kash Patel, alleging The Atlantic sources corroborate claims he’s an insider and predicting he’ll be removed from the FBI. It highlights corruption via prediction-market betting (Polymarket) and attacks on MAGA media rhetoric (Fox News), plus claims about racism/anti-Semitism in military appointments.
Guests
Josh and Pops (co-hosts/pundits).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCritiquing Democratic Missteps
0:00 to 0:45
The host discusses the shortcomings of Democrats in responding to current political challenges.
“All right, we like to criticize obviously MAGA, but the Democrats that are not meeting this moment, they're open for critique as well.”
Democrats' Impeachment Strategy
0:45 to 1:39
A group of House Democrats is advocating for immediate impeachment of Trump if they regain the House.
“And this is, I like to give credit where credit is due.”
The Urgency for Democratic Action
1:39 to 2:58
The discussion emphasizes the need for Democrats to propose legislation to secure democracy and counter authoritarianism.
“adults surveyed said the House should vote to impeach Trump.”
The Role of Accountability in Governance
2:58 to 4:23
The conversation shifts to the importance of accountability and the historical context of Trump's actions and governance.
“Because we have thought about what happens when an authoritarian gets in the White House.”
Kash Patel's Role and Trump's Choices
4:23 to 7:00
The host examines Kash Patel's influence and the character dynamics in Trump's administration.
“But let's talk about the people that will be seeking pardons.”
Corruption and the Supreme Court's Influence
7:00 to 12:20
The podcast discusses the systemic corruption linked to Trump, the Supreme Court's ruling, and the lack of checks and balances.
“I would say probably he's going to have to save a little face with Cash.”
White Supremacy and Political Accountability
12:20 to 14:07
The conversation covers the implications of political appointments in the military and how white supremacy intersects with governance.
“And so now there's no check or balance on his conduct.”
The Fallout of Political Loyalty
14:07 to 15:19
Discussing the consequences faced by political figures due to their loyalty to Trump.
“The day after she got fired, her picture is in the trash can.”
Racism in the Media and Society
16:40 to 21:46
Exploring the normalization of racist rhetoric in media and its societal impact.
“You have all of these things that they've normalized.”
The Youth and Rising Extremism
21:47 to 24:05
Examining the troubling trends of extremism among younger generations.
“There is an audience that digs this, that is every single bit as racist, Islamophobic, and anti-Semitic as all of those hosts there, with the exception of our queen, of course, Jessica Tarlov.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00All right, we like to criticize obviously MAGA, but the Democrats that are not meeting this moment, they're open for critique as well. Chuck Schumer taking money from APAC, doing fundraisers with lobbyists for Palantir. That is not the type of opposition we need. That's more like fascist collaboration. However, I like to give credit where credit is due. And some House Democrats are planning for impeachment on day one after the midterms. Pop this up. A cohort of resistance minded House Democrats is pushing their colleagues to begin building the case against Trump now in anticipation of a day one impeachment vote if they retake the House.
0:44The push for impeachment is going to be overwhelming. And this is, I like to give credit where credit is due. And this is exactly what the Democrats need to be doing right now, unapologetically. Josh. Anything short of that, I think, would be a failure. And so to take this position, number one, it's popular. If you look at Trump's poll numbers, it's going to be easy to rally a Democratic base around that message. Don't be afraid of it. Don't run from it. Embrace it. But the things that Trump has normalized over the course of the past year or 18 months, it's easy to be numb to this and think that something like that would be pointless.
1:25But that's the point, is that when he acts the way he does, you have to dig in. You have to get deeper. You have to get angrier. You have to get less apologetic. You have to dig. So I agree with it. And Pubs, their Strength in Numbers Verisite poll released Tuesday found that 55 % of U.S. adults surveyed said the House should vote to impeach Trump. So clearly this is something, this president is, is historically unpopular. He, nobody really likes him except for, I mean, like the crazy triple Trump base, that's it. And then the billionaires that, that ask kiss. What's your take on how should Democrats position themselves?
2:08There is a establishment position that, oh, we shouldn't push impeachment. We need to just let him do what he's going to do. What's your take on that? My take on that is if the establishment is saying, oh, we need to not impeach him, they need to get the fuck out of office. They need to be primaried. But I'd like to see Democrats not only start listing articles of impeachment, but I would like to see a plan of how they are going to start providing legislation that will remake what Trump has done. Because we cannot go back to the guardrails will hold, the institutions will hold. I would like to see plans.
2:49How are we going to take back the country and make it secure for democracy? So if another tyrant comes in, we can stop it. Because we have thought about what happens when an authoritarian gets in the White House. And I would like to see laws that they are drafting to put on the books. I mean, I would like a binder this big of all the things the Democrats are going to do to bring back and hold our democracy. Yeah. And I would just say that there were guardrails in Trump 1.0. And then the American public rejected Trump's first term. They like him when he campaigns because he's kind of entertaining and unintentionally funny.
3:33And then when he governs, he's wildly unpopular. And the Democrats had a rule book exactly as to what to do to stop this. And it would have started with Jack Smith appointed a special prosecutor on day one. There were guardrails here and the Biden administration fumbled the bag. But deeper to that, I think the Democrats need to address the Supreme Court issue. I think the Democrats need to address the dated electoral college. I think the Democrats need to address Citizens United. And I think the Democrats need to, like they did at the Nuremberg trials. If there is, if Trump releases a bunch of pardons, then we have laws that if, you know, a president is saying, hey, you do these things and don't worry, I'll pardon you, that those pardons are null and void.
4:24But let's talk about the people that will be seeking pardons. And one of them is Kash Patel. And an Atlantic writer, pop this up, Kylie. An Atlantic writer says she's been inundated by more sources willing to corroborate Kash Patel reporting. I think one of the things that has been most gratifying after immediately after the story published was I have been inundated by additional sourcing going up to the highest levels of the government, thanking us for doing the work, providing additional corroborating information. So this was an open secret in Washington, unfortunately, and we took great care to bring it to light.
5:03And a couple of things I want to point out. I read that Kash Patel feels like he's an outsider. His brown skin, his bank account is not as impressive as the other people that are on the board. Trump is a famous teetotaler. He does not like drinking. He cannot stand it. His brother died of alcoholism and he is on the record a lot speaking about how much he does not like drinking. And so why he picked two alcoholics, Hegseth and Kash Patel, I don't know. But I think Kash Patel's days are numbered and Kash Patel knows it. That's why you see him doing these insane press conferences. And he's probably going to start a bunch of insane investigations.
5:46Josh. I don't think it's any surprise we talked about Kash and we talked about how easy it would be to sort of roll out this plethora of evidence that, yes, he drinks too much. Yes, he's incompetent. Yes, he doesn't work. I'm sure this reporter with The Atlantic is just salivating at the thought of getting to produce all of this information and reveal the sources that she has for this reporting. I mean, the one thing that appears to me about Trump, the way he views alcoholics or the way he views alcoholism, he doesn't view it as a disease. He views it as a character weakness. He views it as someone who's weak.
6:25And so it is ironic that he would pick two of what appears to be alcoholics to run his secretary of defense as well as the FBI, for that matter. You know, two relatively important agencies in our government, you might say, that he just hands off to a couple of guys. So, yeah, the reporter with The Atlantic, that's going to be fun sort of tracking that story and seeing where that takes him. I would dare to say my prediction would be that Cash Patel is not with the FBI in 30 days. I think that's a fair. Pops, what do you think? I would say probably he's going to have to save a little face with Cash.
7:10So I'm going to say 60 days he's not with him. And I would just say the reason Trump picks people that are in active addiction is because he is so broken. These people will kiss his ass and give him something. like all the other people in his cabinet do for, you know, all of them have something in them that allows them to behave and act the way that they do in their positions of power. And for cash and Pete Hexeth, you know, it's alcohol for everybody else. They're just fucked up. I mean, not saying Pete and cash aren't fucked up, but I'm just saying like, you have to be something inside you is not well.
7:51If you're like all chips in on, I'm going to go after James Comey because Trump wants me to, and he posted it on my social. Like that just doesn't happen in a professional business. And we know from scholars that strongmen, dictators, intentionally pick incompetent people to elevate their own competence. So a lot of this, Trump and MAGA think they're so universally unique. They're playing this age old two bit dictator playbook down to the wire. I mean, if you talk to Jason Stanley, if you talk to Ruth Ben-Ghiott, if you talk to Timothy Snyder, they've seen this story unfold, you know, time and time and time again.
8:34And the intentional choosing of incompetent, broken people is by design. And then, you know, this administration, the corruption is just unbelievable. And we have to make sure we are doing brand damage to the Republican Party. I mean, decades long brand damage. Number one, you're terrible with the economy. Always have been, always will be. Number two, the law and order stuff is bullshit. It's total bullshit. And here is, and that you support the troops, total bullshit. Here is a post on a story of a U.S. soldier that had insider information about the Venezuela capture of Maduro, and he bet on it on Polymarket.
9:16Pop this up. New York Times breaking news, a U.S. soldier who helped capture Nicolas Maduro has been charged with using classified information to bet on the mission on Polymarket. And here's what Trump has to say about that. Play the clip. That would be no good, but he bet on his own team. I'll look into it. Yeah. There are also things that are being placed as well on the Iran conflict, too. And there have been some trappings where people suspect that there's insider trading happening on these prediction markets around the war. Well, you know, the whole world, unfortunately, has become somewhat of a casino.
9:52And you look at what's going on all over the world and Europe and every place they're doing these betting things. I was never much in favor of it. I don't like it conceptually, but it is what it is. No, I think that. So, I mean, of course, like the corruption that the Republican Party has mainstreamed. And this is the family values party. And I just think the brand damage that Democrats need to go out and do to this propagandic bullshit lying party, because here's what we know. They are an anti-economy, anti-family, pro-death cult. They are terrible with business. Their policies always lead to war, always lead to death.
10:39And they are the most anti-family party that this world has ever seen. Truly, the Republican Party opposes family. Look at their policies. Every single policy they make makes it more difficult for you to be in a family, while at the same time they're promoting teenagers getting pregnant. And I think what's forgotten on a day-to-day basis is the level of financial corruption with the Trumps. I mean, just today we reported Eric Trump, a$24 million contract with the Department of Defense, but this whole pardon scandal where he's just blatantly selling pardons, all of these interactions with these countries in the Middle East, everybody's getting their pockets lined with money.
11:26And this just isn't normal. This isn't how government is designed to function and represent the will and interest of the day-to-day American person, you know, surviving in middle America. And so it's important to note that and bring that home. And a lot of this, we haven't discussed this before, but a lot of this, a lot of his conduct and his administration's conduct is directly related to the Supreme Court, giving him sort of full reign to do what he wants to when he's president with an interpretation that he cannot be charged with a crime after he's president. And I realize that's subject to a little bit of a legal debate, but pretty much the Supreme Court has said, look, you can do what you want to here and there's not going to be any consequences.
12:09And that's why in the second term, you see this level of corruption that really is truly unrivals for his first term. Like it's just on a different level. And that's why, because the Supreme Court has sort of given him the permission slip to do whatever you want free of any consequence. And so now there's no check or balance on his conduct. All right. And then, of course, like Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna calls for the sergeant to be pardoned. Because one thing about MAGA is they are for if you're a MAGA supporter, you can commit any crime. You can do anything you want to do. and then the enemy from within or the left.
12:51They only demand accountability from the people that have different, differing political views. But here is the new Navy secretary, Hong Kong, on white supremacist comparison. Just play the clip. This is what they're putting into the United States military right now in leadership positions and not promoting people that are worthy and have earned it simply because they're black. but this guy is getting a promotion pop this up i'll be attacked by left and call me white supremacist but i have one asked for them it's just when you give me my hood make sure it's got the little slits and not the circles so i can see better what the is i mean seriously and i don't give a about this stuff but there is also this component in maga where you have women that carry the water for the patriarchy you have scott besson and tim cook gay men that are carrying water for the patriarchy you have this guy you have cash patel and i have news for you you think these white supremacists think you're the special vietnamese guy that if you wear a kkk hood that you're going to be in the club no at some point they're going to come after every single one and it's just amazing to me that clarence thomas that this guy that you know look at what Pam Bondi.
14:12Look what happened to Pam Bondi. The day after she got fired, her picture is in the trash can. She will be in history books forever as an attorney general that covered up for the president of the United States involvement in a pedophile ring. That is her. She lost everything for that. And that's how she's going to be recorded. And how does MAGA thank her trash can for Bondi? I think this Navy secretary, and we're going to bypass the obvious hits on the name. Yeah, we're going to, we're going to, but, but he better enjoy his, you know, you get a little bit of time and, and good graces with Trump before you get shit on.
14:56And so just enjoy that. You get to make the rounds on all the conservative bullshit podcast and you get to be the hero, but at some point you're going to get shit on. You're going to be sent back to wherever it is you came from. And that's that's what's going to happen to this person. He's obviously going to do whatever Trump tells him to do. That's exactly why he got the appointment. All right, ladies, sometimes we feel out of sorts. We can't sleep. Hot flashes. Is it perimenopause? Is that brain fog aging? Who knows? But I can tell you how you can find out. You can sign up for Superpower. Superpower sends a licensed professional to your home or you can visit a nearby lab.
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17:17You have Hung Cao who thinks that he's the magic Vietnamese person that's a white supremacist. He thinks he's a white supremacist. Okay. All right, whatever. And like you would want to be that. That's so weird, but I'll leave that to the psychiatrist. And then you have, of course, the actual white supremacist on Fox. And here's Greg Gutfeld. And this is just so overtly racist. And this is the network where racism, the killing of homeless people, the main dementia and ignorance and day, every day, 24 seven. is why the criticism doesn you call us Nazis, not see that, you know, I'm beginn like us.
18:02You know what? I need to learn from the bl they they were able to rem from the n word by using i So from now on, it's what up, my Nazi? Hey, what up, my Nazi? Hey, what's hanging, my Nazi? Nazi, please. Thank God you did a hard eye there. What does it tell you, though? It's really breathtaking that they want to be called Nazis. I mean, it's wild to me that how mainstream this is. And he said, we need to take a lesson from the blacks. And the racism, if you live in a Bible Belt state, you're aware of it, abundantly aware and of just how insidious and ubiquitous it is. But now to see this on national television like that, and these are the same people, these forces that far right Israel funding groups, Israel lobby groups, fund this stuff.
19:10And here they are begging, let's take the power and let's call each other Nazis. It's just breathtaking, the anti-Semitism, the good old fashioned racism that most of their viewers, they're all down with hating on black people. That's just stunning to me. And this is the party that's aligned with Israel. Yeah. The things that we can just refer to ourselves as Nazis.
19:39I don't have much to offer there that would be kind or polite at all. The one thing that they have that we don't have is they've got this propaganda machine, which is Fox News, that infiltrates all of these homes in small town America. and normalize all of this stuff like that. That's the recipe for normalizing this kind of, all this stuff when you hear that kind of rhetoric is to normalize it and make it and plant a seed in the back of your mind. And they have that vehicle. They have the means to do that. The Democrats don't. We don't have that messaging machine like Fox News right now. So we have to come up with a different game plan because, and that's real.
20:22Fox News is real in day-to-day America. That's where a lot of people get their information from. That's where they hear this kind of stuff. That's where it starts. And until we can combat that rhetoric with our own messaging, we're going to have to put up with it. But it's really pretty breathtaking to hear just the level of acceptance and normalization. Where's the ADL? I mean, why aren't they coming out and saying here is the five and they're talking about how just call us Nazis, just own it. six million Jewish people were exterminated in the Holocaust. And here's Greg Gutfeld. And, you know, the five, they're all joking around, Nazi, please.
21:05It's where is the ADL in condemning this? Where? I mean, seriously, it's just wild to me how people in these higher up places, they want to cherry pick which human rights matter and which ones don't. And we stand up for trans people or we stand up for Palestinians or we stand up for Lebanese people or we stand up against Islamophobia which has been so mainstreamed so mainstream and we also stand out against anti-Semitism that is just wildly anti-Semitic just straight up you know anti-black racism it's just abhorrent but Josh is a hundred million percent right Fox News is number one in cable news.
21:52There is an audience that digs this, that is every single bit as racist, Islamophobic, and anti-Semitic as all of those hosts there, with the exception of our queen, of course, Jessica Tarlov. And I didn't see if she was sitting there or not, but pumps. I just, when I hear all this, and I used to be the person that thought, oh, good, when Fox, Fox, you know, Fox News's demographic is so much older. They're going to die off and we're going to, you know, it's going to be fine. And then you see all of these young Republican groups on college campuses and they get their texts and it's Nazi this and Nazi that.
22:30You get, you know, Nick Fuentes, who is becoming a large, large voice with the younger people. So this problem is not getting better. It is getting worse when all these young Republicans, it has become a feature of young Republican chat groups. We've seen it in New York. We've seen it in Florida. I'm sure it's other places that being anti-Semitic is part of the game. Yet, like you said, they're in bed with the Republican Party, with their, you know, Camp Auschwitz and flags at the parade. These two live under the same umbrella. And I do want to say polling has shown recently that Gen Z has and millennials have abandoned Trump in record, record, record numbers.
23:20So while it feels so overwhelming when we report on this stuff, it's important to know that this is a minority. It's important that everybody knows that's fighting against fascism and fighting for democracy. They don't have the numbers. Yeah, they have Fox. Yeah, they have these Nazi Nazi chats. but we have brand damage to do we need to make MAGA synonymous with all of these other things oh yes that guy is MAGA Pam Bondi was MAGA because MAGA represents dehumanization racism favoring the accumulation of wealth for a few over helping others and it favors death it is a death cult. MAGA is an anti-family death cult.
24:06Say it once, say it now, say it frequently, say it often, say it to every MAGA you know because they know their policies lead to death and lead to the destruction of family. All right, that's all we have. Like and subscribe. And we, oh, I would like to thank Josh for joining us all week. He is heading back to the Bible Belt. I want to say this real fast. Thank you listeners and viewers of IHIP News and I've had it for allowing me to come on your show. Thank you to Jennifer and Pumps. I do want to say this, being in the studio up close for a full week, I realize the importance of what both of you do.
24:45I realize the importance that both of you, the messages that you carry to your listeners and to your viewers and so I would commend you both for a job well done. This is not easy. This is not popular at times. but you do it in an amazing way. Thank you for allowing me to be here. And thank you for the listener and viewer for listening and viewing. Thank you, Josh, for coming. And I have pre-ordered Jennifer Welch's book. Oh my goodness. Not Today Fascist. Wow. It's coming to my door. How about that, Poms? It's a pretty hot cupboard too, isn't it? I mean, the picture is fabulous. It took an army of people.
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