Disaster TPUSA Event Leaves MAGA in Total Collapse As Civil War Destroys Them

22 Dec 2025 · 23 min

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Episode Overview The latest episode of IHIP News covers the chaotic happenings at a recent Turning Point USA (TPUSA) event. Hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan offer comedic and insightful commentary on the event's fallout and broader implications for the MAGA movement and media landscape.

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Episode Highlights

Media Critique

  • Barry Weiss and CBS News:
  • Criticism of Barry Weiss as a "propaganda network" head at CBS.
  • Allegation that Weiss spiked a significant story about the Trump administration's actions regarding deportees, drawing parallels to unethical journalism practices in the past.
  • Calls for a boycott of CBS and Bank of America due to their involvement in propagandizing.

Infighting in the MAGA Movement

  • Conflict Between Key Figures:
  • The episode discusses the internal conflicts among MAGA figures like Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
  • Discussion of how personal grievances and political aspirations are fracturing the movement.

The Future of MAGA

  • Power Dynamics:
  • Predictions that the future leadership of the MAGA movement may be worse than Trump, pointing to figures like J.D. Vance and Marjorie Taylor Greene as potential successors.
  • Commentary on the danger of charismatic figures like Tucker Carlson in shaping public perception and political direction.

Human Rights and Rhetoric

  • Human Rights Connection:
  • Discussion on the importance of recognizing the interconnectedness of various social justice issues (e.g., racism, anti-Semitism, transphobia).
  • Critique of individuals who advocate for selective human rights, focusing on the need for a unified approach to human rights advocacy.

Key Concepts

  • Media Integrity: The hosts emphasize the decline of journalistic standards in major networks and the rise of independent journalism as a necessary alternative.
  • Cultural Infighting: Internal disputes within the MAGA movement reveal cracks in its foundation and highlight the opportunistic behaviors of its leaders.
  • The Role of Grievance Politics: The episode illustrates how personal grievances among right-wing figures can influence larger political narratives and strategies.

Major Takeaways

  • Boycotting Bad Actors: The call for boycotting media outlets and banks perceived as complicit in harmful narratives reflects a growing trend of consumer activism.
  • Dangerous Successors: The potential successors to Trump within the Republican party are framed as possibly more dangerous and better positioned to consolidate power.
  • Interconnected Issues: The insistence on connecting various forms of discrimination and injustice is a vital part of the hosts' arguments, advocating for comprehensive human rights recognition.

Closing Thoughts Jennifer and Pumps conclude with a reminder of the chaotic political landscape and the necessity for listeners to remain informed and engaged. They encourage their audience to be critical of all political narratives, whether from Republicans or Democrats, and to seek out trustworthy information sources.

Upcoming Content The hosts tease future episodes featuring highlights from the news and personal insights, promising to continue engaging their audience over the holiday season.

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0:04Barry Weiss at CBS News is an absolute piece of work. CBS is gone. This is a propaganda network propped up by an unqualified DEI hire in these Trump sycophants, the Ellison family, who want to take over all of American media. Journalism is completely dead unless you go to independent journalism. And I want to remind everybody, as I did in my previous episode, Bank of America is sponsoring a lot of these horrific town halls that Barry Weiss is propagandizing on the American public. If you have accounts at Bank of America or credit card at Bank of America, you have agency, you have autonomy. There are other banks you can use.

0:51They aren't jack shit without our money. Boycott CBS, Boycott Bank of America. We'll be releasing a lot of other boycott lists later because we have to get serious about this. Put up this post, Kylie. Sharon Alfonsi, a correspondent for 60 Minutes, sent an internal email to colleagues stating that CBS editor-in-chief Barry Weiss spiked our story about the Trump administration and the transfer of deportees to a prison in El Salvador. In the email, which was first reported on by the Wall Street Journal, Alfonsi compares the decision to spike the story to the story of Jeffrey Wygand. The Jeffrey Wygand was a tobacco industry whistleblower whose interview was initially withheld by CBS in the 1990s over legal concerns, a decision that severely damaged the network's credibility and became one of the most infamous episodes in broadcast journalism.

1:50Alfonso writes that Wise declined to speak with her about the decision. She also says the move was political rather than editorial. Our story was screened five times and cleared by both CBS attorneys and standards and practices. Alfonso wrote, it is factually correct. Now this is what is just so stunning to me. In a time where we need to draw parallels with history, taking people off of the streets of the United States of America without due process and sending them to a prison in a foreign country draws parallels with Nazi Germany. The fact that Barry Weiss spiked this story is so nefarious. It shows you how people that tried to cherry pick human rights and set one group out as being supreme to all others and abandon all other human rights are on the wrong side of history.

2:50And they're doing all of this with Donald Trump as their Trojan horse. It's just stunning. It's absolutely stunning how unqualified and nefarious and diabolical Barry Weiss is and shame on every single one of CBS's sponsors. I found this thing interesting. And the Barry Weiss thing, it doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, nobody's going to forget the Erica Kirk debacle. But I thought if there was anyone in Trump's inner circle that said the reason CBS is not going to air this is because what we are doing is so immoral and cruel that we have to stop doing this. But the answer across the board, whether it be in his cabinet or his sycophants in state media, which is now CBS, are to just ignore it and pretend like it doesn't happen.

3:45And in this particular case, I'm like, Trump is 79 years old and he looks one foot in the grave and he's losing his mind. You're willing to crash your network for this? Is it worth it? It's absolutely unbelievable that CBS News is now the new Fox News. Here's the problem, Pumps. I agree with you on the surface. They're willing to crash the network for Trump. But everybody is already kind of moving on from Trump conversationally. They are sabotaging these stories for what's next. And what's after MAGA, you guys, is worse. The whole idea has always been to use some moron like Trump to consolidate power in the executive, to completely break democracy and take away the will of the people.

4:37And one of the pillars that they want to break is the media because they want to own a propaganda channel. Trump is already one foot in the grave. They know it. And so they are setting up what's next. Erica Kirk is setting up what's next, whom she wants to be, J.D. Vance, who is a million times worse, decades, decades younger, which brings us to the next story. And these things are linked, you guys. At the Turning Point convention that they just had, where Erica Kirk is on stage with Nicki Minaj, where Erica Kirk had a Freudian slip, where she said, this guy's continuing my husband's grifting.

5:12I mean, grit. It's just, it's crazy. Goes out in this Tammy Faye Baker outfit, which I'll spare all of you, all of this stuff. It's nuts. And I do want to point out that Grindr crashed and I was, was experiencing outages during this, but I had not heard that. There's a lot of infighting going on. And basically it is Ben Shapiro fighting with Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Marjorie Taylor Greene, Steve Bannon. So the fissures in MAGA is jockeying who's going to be the heir apparent, who gets the MAGA cult, are on full display. And this is something you have to really understand because the Barry Why story is linked to what I'm about to tell you.

5:58Ben Shapiro is 100 % fine with Candace Owens, and Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon going after black people. It's totally fine with that. He's fine with him going after gay people. No issue. Fine with him going after immigrants. He'll be your ally. Where they draw the line, where Ben Shapiro draws the line is when they're critical of Israel. So it's important to understand that when you have somebody who's willing to be a racist on everything, but then seeks refuge for a particular group of people among racists, it's a fool's errand. And Ben Shapiro, Barry Weiss, are experiencing this situation where they want to marginalize all of these other groups, and they're seeking refuge in a cult of racists.

6:50Here is Ben Shapiro going after Candace Owens. Play the clip. So if Candace Owens decides to spend every day since the murder of Charlie Kirk casting aspersions at TPUSA and the people who work here, who worked with Charlie every single day, his best friends to cast aspersions at Mikey McCoy and Andrew Colvin and Blake Neff and Tyler Boyer. and yes, at Erica Kirk, and to imply or outright claim complicity in a cover-up over Charlie's murder, to spew absolutely baseless trash implicating everyone from French intelligence to Mossad to members of TPUSA in Charlie. Okay, his voice is fingernails on the chalkboard.

7:29It's important for everyone to know that Candace used to work for him and he was 100 % on board with any sort of transphobia, racism towards black people. He's a hundred percent on board with, he's on board with every single bit of it until Candace criticizes Israel. Is Candace a nut conspiracy theorist, all of that? Yes. But it's important to note that Ben Shapiro is on board with all of it until you get there. And this is my mantra. And this has been my mantra my whole life. Human rights are connected. You cannot abandon or prioritize one group over another. Women, the rise of misogyny is directly related to anti-Semitism, to Islamophobia, to transphobia, to homophobia.

8:16If you try to cherry pick one group out and prioritize it, then you leave that group as vulnerable as ever. And that's what Ben Shapiro just effed around and found out with? You know, I would have thought when he said soon after Charlie Kirk's death that he was going to take over Turning Point USA, and the screech on the brakes of that was so loud, I heard it at my house. They do not want a Jewish man leading Turning Point USA. Ben Shapiro is not the magic Jew. They're not going to stop being white supremacists and anti-Semitic over at Turning Point. And in MAGA, they're not going to take down their swastika flags.

8:58They're not going to take off their white supremacy tattoos because of Ben Shapiro. The knives will turn on him. He's not the magic Jew. And what I will be fascinated to watch over the next year is how they shit all over him in that right-wing ecosphere and see where we are a year from now with Ben Shapiro? Is he invited to speak at Turning Point USA? My bet he's long gone by then. Well, it's going to be interesting because the CEO of Turning Point USA is Erica Kirk. And Erica Kirk is very much aligned with Ben Shapiro, very much in alignment with everything that he prioritizes. I think there's a fissure under the Turning Point.

9:46I think if Ben Shapiro had more Riz and didn't have such an annoying voice and could consolidate people more, he would be really rising. But this is at the crux of kind of what's happening over at CBS. This is what's happening in the MAGA movement. This is where a lot of people have gone to seek refuge in the MAGA movement, a lot of hard right, far right supporters of Israel. And they're finding out that these wasps at the end of the day will turn the knives on all of them. Here is Ben Shapiro going after Steve Bannon. Play the clip. Bannon, for example, accuses his foreign policy opponents of loyalty to a foreign country.

10:33He's not actually making an argument based in evidence. He's simply maligning people that he disagrees with, which is indeed par for the course from a man who was once a PR flack for Jeffrey Epstein. Check the record.

10:51Pups, here's the thing. They're all fighting with each other. Megyn Kelly and Steve Bannon are mad at Ben Shapiro, and they're all mad at Tucker Carlson, all that, because here's why. They're all cruel as a fuck. They don't give a shit about anything or anyone but themselves. They will throw anybody under the bus. And here's the thing. He's right about Bannon. Bannon is ass deep in the asking files, pictures, emails, but the Republicans are still elevating that voice of Steve Bannon. He spoke at Turning Point USA America Fest or whatever, because at the end of the day, these people don't give a shit about children being sexually abused.

11:33They don't give a shit if children are subjected to bullying and racism. What they care about is the grift. What they care about is power. And Ben Shapiro is, in my mind, on a downhill spiral with all this because they're that voice, number one, but they're all fighting with each other because that's who they are. Hate fills them. It's what keeps them going. And I think Ben's probably next on the shopping block. That's just my guess. All right, listener, it's incredibly important that you get fact-based news. That should just be a given, but unfortunately it's not. Let me give you a prime example.

12:16Here's a left-leaning headline. Trump diverts Congress approved funds for warrior dividend. Because I have the ground News Vantage plan. I know that this is a left-leaning independent media website, and I know that this article has very high factuality. Then the right reports the same story as follows. Trump, over 1 million military service members to get warrior dividend. And it tells me this is a right-leaning publication with mixed factuality. And that's why I love Ground News, you guys, because they're basically the Spotify of news telling you who owns each outlet, where it leans politically, and whether you're reading original reporting or recycled messaging.

13:01Listener, join us by going to groundnews.com forward slash IHIP to get 40 % off the Ground News Vantage plan that we use every single day. They're subscriber funded and female founded. By subscribing, you're not only getting a tool we all need today. You're also supporting our work. That's ground G R O U N D news.com forward slash I hip Seth has linked this right below in the show notes, gift it to yourself for Christmas. Yeah, I mean, I think that he's finding this out. I think that you have this, um, force of people that are trying to really propagandize a lot of what is going on. And when we're critical of the Democratic Party, people will say, oh, don't be critical of the Democratic Party.

13:53And it's like, no, we need to be critical of liars. We need to be critical of people that are whitewashing what is happening right now, whether that's a Republican, whether that's a Democrat, a moderate. Inside this turning point, in my opinion, and they're all jockeying for the post-Trump America. Surprisingly, Ben Shapiro is more of a voice of reason because he is Jewish. He sees like, oh shit, Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson, these people that are being overtly critical of Israel, which a lot of their criticism of Israel, I agree with. I believe that Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and for sure Nick Fuentes, because he outright says it, are real Jew haters, are real anti-Semites.

14:40And the problem for me in the mix of all of this is there are people that are Jewish that see what happens in Australia. And they know the history of World War II, and they know that anti-Semitism and Jew hate is very real. And then they have these representatives like Barry Weiss or Ben Shapiro or Benjamin Netanyahu. And the actions of these people are making Jews less safe around the world. And I, as a person who believes in universal human rights, I feel like it's important to acknowledge that the lack of safety that these voices are providing to Jewish people worldwide. Similarly, the dehumanization of Palestinians and the abandonment of Palestinians, not only by the government of Israel, who is committing a genocide against them, but to take it even further, a lot of the Arab countries around Palestine, they use them as a, oh, we're mad at the West because of the way you treat Palestine.

15:51But yet they do nothing to help these displaced Palestinians. So in linking these things and linking what's happening with trans people in the United States, happening with immigrants in the United States, the rise of misogyny in the United States, it's important that we are clear eyed that all of these things are absolutely connected. In the Turning Point USA world, there's always space and room for racism. Ben Shapiro just he's fine with them being racist with everybody, but no criticism towards Israel. And so he's found himself in a space with really strange bedfellows because he incubated all of this.

16:33He's a massive incubator. He incubated Candace Owens. He's her former boss. And we have to be cautious because a lot of people that get their news the following way. There's a cat. There's a cool person doing a ski trick on a mountain. Oh, here's Candace Owens saying something that makes a little bit of sense in a 30 second video moving along. And so you're going to see opportunistic grifters that come in and fill the space of MAGA, people that might have a little bit of racist default setting in them and a little bit of humanity as well, which a lot of American public kind of has a little bit of this really gross.

17:15And it's something that I think we always have to look for clear eyed moral politicians. And this is somebody who I have had a watch on from day one, and it's Marjorie Taylor Greene. And she's very much trying to, I think, collude with Tucker. I my prediction is they are going to try to be a ticket on the Republican side. They no longer hardly ever talk about Trump unless it's to rip him. And look at the phrasing of this tweet. You guys look at this. Two things that are not MAGA. Number one, Ben Shapiro attacking Tucker and speaking at TPUSA AmFest. Number two, the heavily redacted Epstein files being released, failure to release them all by today's lawful deadline and redacting politically exposed individuals and government officials.

18:04People are raging and walking away. Here's what's interesting. Keep this up for just a second, Kylie, two things that are not MAGA. She is still self-identifying as MAGA. And then after this, she's anointing Tucker, kicking Ben Shapiro to the curb, and she's prioritizing taking down elites. Nowhere in this is Donald Trump mentioned. She is clearly appointing Tucker as the heir apparent. You guys, I am telling you, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene are going to run. And these people are incredibly dangerous racists. Tucker Carlson, we played a video like last week, the other week before he's interviewing Piers Morgan, just gay slur after gay slur.

18:57Marjorie Taylor Greene's still a nut talking about pardoning some gal that's an election fraudster in Colorado. She's talking about jailing Fauci. These people are nuts, but the way people get news now, you guys, is crazy. It's in the frame of, oh my God, cute cat, cute puppy. Tucker Carlson says something that makes sense for 30 seconds, and then they go on. And that's why this sort of moral duplicity and the cherry picking of human rights, in my opinion, is so incredibly dangerous, at least with Trump. And I hate him. I hate everything about him. Everybody is on the table. Fuck you. Fuck you.

19:37Fuck you. You're all screwed. You're all going down. These people, the heir apparent, the J.D. Vance's, the who is clearly the heir apparent for turning point. but in the turning point umbrella, they still have to, to make their money. They still have to bring a Tucker in. So I agree with you, Pam. It's going to be fascinating to see how it all goes down, but turning point has selected J.D. Vance. And I think Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson are going to say, hold my beer. And they're going for the cult. No, I think you're exactly right. And here's the deal. Tucker Carlson, because he was on Fox forever and he says this crazy shit on his podcast he's far more charismatic and far more popular than jd vance and a better communicator a better communicator he he comes off as authentic he has riz like jd vance better be worried because i just don't think there's i mean the turning point can anoint jd vance for 2028 there's just no way he's going to get the nomination i don't think I just want to say this, and this is, I think we've all been thinking it.

20:46I genuinely think, and I know this is, I'm teetering onto conspiracy theory land, but I think we all see this as clear as day. It feels like, like Erica Kirk, she wants JD Vance to be the president. JD Vance was at turning point saying a bunch of racist shit over the weekend, horribly racist shit. And he has a brown skinned wife and mixed race children. And I think Erica wants to be the first lady. It's just, Am I crazy for thinking that, Pams? No, Pams. Here's the thing. I do not think you're crazy. It sounds fucking crazy. These people are so far off the rails. And here's the deal. We know that J.D.

21:25Vance went from calling Trump America's Hitler to being his vice president. We know that he knows that MAGA are a bunch of racist, total bigots. If he has to, you know, trade Usha in for the Erika Kirkus of the world, do you don't think he's, I mean, politically expedient? And, you know, politically expedient. Boom. You solve two problems right there. You know, I think he's a prostitute. I think he can do it. Absolutely. So if they say, you know, the Usha thing's like a flag, because at the same turning point, Vivek Ramoswamy was defending Usha, while J.D. Vance was saying, you can finally be a white man and be proud to be a white man.

22:06at the same conference. So he has zero intention of having issues back. So yeah, to do a little trade-in would not surprise me. Yeah, it's really crazy stuff. Okay, listen, as we head into this holiday week, we have pre-recorded a lot of stuff so that everybody can hit their IHIP pipe, because we all know sometimes you just need a little hit of the fuckery that's going on. The next couple of days, we'll drop like our favorite news stories, which obviously is all this craziness at turning point. And we hope you all have a super happy holiday. Our channel will keep going. Make sure you're subscribed and like this video and comment and we will be back later.

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