In short
The hosts discuss Democratic politics and culture-war tactics, focusing on Donald Trump’s health/weight gain, Stephen and Katie Miller’s influence, and RFK Jr.’s autism/vaccine claims. They also argue that Republicans’ “fear” drives their messaging and that reproductive healthcare—not abstinence—reduces abortions.
Guests
Suzanne Lambert, co-host of Mean But True. She’s presented as a political commentator who discusses Georgia politics, branding, and culture-war messaging.
Key claims
Doctors are said to be alarmed by Trump’s bruised hands, swollen ankles, drowsiness, and a reported 23-pound weight gain. The episode claims Stephen Miller is a racist white supremacist and that Katie Miller’s LinkedIn tribute avoids saying “love.” It argues RFK Jr. is fearmongering by claiming autistic children are “100 times” more likely to drown and that vaccines don’t cause autism.
Notable examples
John Ossoff’s “Georgia first” anti-corruption messaging; J.D. Vance videos; Katie Miller’s birthday LinkedIn post; Darlene Graham’s DEI comments; RFK Jr.’s “drown” autism clip; theories about Trump’s autism/vaccine obsession.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOJohn Ossoff's Popularity in Georgia
0:45 to 2:30
Discussion about John Ossoff's appeal as a Democratic candidate in Georgia and his moderate voter base.
“I'm always curious about like the moderate voter.”
Contrasting Democratic and Republican Figures
2:30 to 4:45
Exploration of the perceived weaknesses of Republican candidates compared to rising Democratic figures.
“Like we are in the position we are in because losers who never had any friends now have a ton of power, which I think is incredibly dangerous.”
Fear and Hypocrisy Among Right-Wingers
4:45 to 7:30
Analysis of the fear-driven mentality of right-wing figures and their hypocrisy regarding family values.
“She wakes up in the first face she sees as his.”
Katie Miller's Controversial Marriage
7:30 to 9:20
Comments on Katie Miller's relationship with Stephen Miller and her public displays of affection.
“The danger of people like Stephen Miller on top of how holy and attractive he is, on top of how psychotic his wife is.”
Body Image and Political Figures
9:20 to 11:20
Discussion on Trump's weight gain and health scrutiny in contrast to media coverage of Democratic figures.
“And, you know, our alternative, which is CNN or MSNBC or and they're not going to do that.”
Reproductive Rights and Cultural Commentary
11:20 to 14:00
Insight into the culture around reproductive rights, including the impact of abstinence-only policies.
“And they'll say things like, well, if you didn't want to get pregnant, you shouldn't have sex.”
Punitive Politics and Shame
14:00 to 15:10
Discussion on the punitive nature of political actions affecting marginalized groups.
“And so then they carry out this punitive nature on women where if they have an abortion, we have to we have to slight shame them.”
The Hypocrisy of Politicians
15:10 to 16:51
Examining the qualifications of politicians and their alignment with Trump's ideology.
“But I don't know that she's any more unqualified to be senator than Lindsay was because Darlene and Lindsay will both vote for a 80 year old morbidly obese man's fragile ego to destroy the country.”
RFK Jr.'s Dangerous Claims
16:51 to 19:19
Critique of RFK Jr.'s statements regarding autism and vaccines, highlighting the implications.
“Every last one of these pussies, every single one of them, when push comes to shove, it doesn't matter what they know.”
Trump's Relationship with Autism
19:19 to 21:27
Exploring Trump's focus on autism and its potential psychological roots related to his family.
“He's never made it impossible for her family to choose where she's buried.”
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Societal Views on Autism and Bullying
21:27 to 23:25
Discussion on societal attitudes towards autism and the manifestation of bullying behavior in politics.
“So it was, it really stuck out to her at the time.”
Minnesota's Political Landscape
23:25 to 25:55
Analysis of Minnesota's political success compared to other states and the backlash it receives.
“And vaccines don't cause autism, but you know what does?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04Joining me today is the co host of mean, but true. Great title of the podcast. Suzanne Lambert. Suzanne, welcome. I'm so excited to be here. I'm so excited. It's been way, I cannot believe we haven't met in person. I can't either. Every single day I get at least a dozen comments being like, you have to be on I've Had It. You have to have them on your show. I'm like, what if you just call Taylor up? Like I would love to go on I've Had It and now I'm here. I'm an I've, I'm an I hipster. I love it. I love the I, okay. Let's talk about John Ossoff and you being from Georgia. So he's really, you know, popping to the top of a lot of lists right now, like potential 2028, our top fighter in the Democratic Party.
0:49I'm always curious about like the moderate voter. Can a moderate in Georgia who sees John Ossoff talk, he's centering corruption, which is what Magar did in Hungary. He centered Viktor Orban's corruption. That's what he ran on. And he won against a very rigged system. And so Ossoff is centering this corruption. What do you think the main voter, moderate voter in Georgia, do they hate him? Is there a lot of brand damage done to him or is he popular? I know so many Trump Ossoff voters. Really? Yes. Yes. And I think it's, you know, AOC said this and they're very different politically, but AOC said the same thing, how a lot of people voted for her and they voted for Trump.
1:37I think what people see in John Ossoff, beyond the fact that he's always writing for Georgia, he's talking about Georgia. It's not even America first, it's Georgia first, right? He's always talking about Georgia. But I think that he calls things very plainly. He communicates very plainly and he's compelling and he's cool. Like any of my guy friends, if they met John Ossoff would be like, oh, that guy's the man. I want to vote for him. You know what I mean? You know, I really want to do, Kylie and Ryan, I want to do a lot of content. We can coordinate about this right now online. Yeah. We need to really do a lot of brand damage to these MAGA men.
2:10Oh, yeah. Like, okay, J.D. Vance running to get his kids at Disneyland. How ridiculous it looked. What's his face? Pete Hex had to went with the bench presses. Donald Trump giving the microphone a blowjob. Cash Patel just sitting there looking crazy. You know, we could go down the list. um uh uh elon musk all just there's so many videos of them really advertising what betas they are and how inferior they are juxtaposing that with our new squad of hot men in the democratic party that fox news can't even quit talking about i love that the one girl's getting hot and bothered every time she talks about zoran or john ossoff it's so funny yeah and these these men are bitch boys.
2:57Like we are in the position we are in because losers who never had any friends now have a ton of power, which I think is incredibly dangerous. Like we have the National Guard in DC because these guys are too afraid to walk around alone. We have ice invading neighborhoods because they're afraid of anyone who isn't white. Like it all, they're all just like little bitches. They're so afraid of their way of life being threatened in any kind of way. And it's, that's like the root of it and I think we absolutely need to juxtapose how much we have Mark Kelly who was who flew in Desert Storm 39 times and was a fucking astronaut we have John Ossoff we have Abdul El-Sayed who has a thousand degrees and was like valedictorian I think he was captain of the football and lacrosse like we have real men on our side right they have J.D.
3:47Vance and who wears eyeliner who wears eyeliner and who doesn't fuck his wife did you see the video with him next to Usha, where he leaned over. Good to see. That is what I would do to, well, I just wouldn't do it to anyone, but like someone who maybe I had never met before, not to someone you're allegedly having children with. Yeah. I think it was probably an in vitro situation. Like, yeah, yeah. It's something. Yeah, I do. It's something. Okay. So let's dive into, um, Katie Miller. All right. So Katie Miller is a complete freak. I mean, truly like this woman is a total fucking freak in her spare time.
4:28She been binge watched greatest anatomy. She's triggered by like lesbians, gay people, black people, very triggered, which goes to your point that these people live in a constant state of fear. Fear is their motivating factor. Of course, she's married to somebody who is more unfuckable than Ted Cruz, which is Stephen Miller. and she's married to him on purpose. On purpose. Yeah. She wakes up in the first face she sees as his. Stephen Miller. Imagine that. Here she is posting a birthday tribute to Stephen. Let's pop this up. Happy birthday to my favorite person, the best dad and my forever partner.
5:05Watching at Stephen M live his life's dream with drive and determination every day inspires me, our children, Her children are like two and everyone who knows him. When we left the White House in 2021, Stephen knew he had unfinished business. Rarely do you get a chance to fulfill interrupted dreams. And he doesn't take a second of this privilege for granted. Flipping through my thousands of photos and none from IndyCar today of anyone but our kids, this one seems appropriate. This is an inauguration evening 2025. in Stephen's office that we packed up. Okay. I've read enough. Do we have this photograph that she posts of Stephen?
5:54Seriously. So that is a LinkedIn post that you write about a coworker. Did she even say she loves him anywhere in there? She talks about their four little kids, which it's very alarming to me how much they're breeding, but pop that tweet back up. Stephen never quits. Never. She never says she loves him. She never says she loves them. No, she never does. Had to throw Trump in there. So what do you think? Like, I think we need to browbeat all of these people all the time. Yeah, we need to humiliate them. Humiliation, it's that quote. It's women are afraid of getting murdered. Men are afraid of getting laughed at.
6:35It's their biggest fear is getting laughed at. And for Trump in particular, getting laughed at and not getting applause. I'll never forget when I was at the joint address last year, the one that was like three hours long before dementia fully took him, fully took him in his in its clutches. Within 10 minutes, he stopped and he was like, so I'm none of the Democrats are going to clap for me all night, huh? Like, that's all that he cared about. Right. All that they care about is that. So we have to just rip the seat out from underneath them because they don't know how to do it. And if we can be funny while we do it, because they're not funny.
7:07They're not funny at all. Think about when everyone started calling Stephen Miller ugly. and Katie Miller got so pissed because she didn't realize we all knew he was ugly. You know, like she didn't realize we all thought the same thing she did. That's why she was so pissed. And then also, I think it's important at the same time to point out just what a vile piece of shit Stephen Miller is. He is a racist, a white supremacist. The danger of people like Stephen Miller on top of how holy and attractive he is, on top of how psychotic his wife is. These people are breathtaking hypocrites. They sit and lecture everybody about family values while they only care about certain families.
7:53Yeah. Only certain families and doing all of the things that they say are bad. I mean, everywhere from big titty Brian to like, it's just at every step of the way, they're complete hypocrites. And it's, it comes to a point where it's like, when are y 'all going to realize that the people pointing their finger the most have the most fingers pointing back at them, right? Especially with Stephen Miller. I mean, it's like he's a literal white supremacist who refuses to say things like white privilege exist while also being a white supremacist. We have to keep hammering it. I agree. All right. Let's, we also need to keep hammering.
8:30The president's gained quite a bit of weight when it's visible to the, he was already obese. No, what do you mean? He had the same stats as LeBron James. What was it? Six, three, two 20. Yeah. 4 % body fat. Exactly. Um, so now the doctors are warning about his health. Let's pop this up. The Washington Post is reporting president Donald Trump has faced scrutiny for bruising on his hands, swelling in his ankles and apparent drowsiness. Among other questions about his health, some doctors say they're worried about another risk, the 23 pounds that Trump appears to have gained since his last campaign for presidency.
9:09And this is where like, I'm jealous that the Republicans have Fox and that so many people watch it because if Biden or Obama got a 23 pound weight gain, it would be breaking news. It would be wall to wall coverage. And, you know, our alternative, which is CNN or MSNBC or and they're not going to do that. So it falls to us. It falls to us. Like this man is clearly morbidly obese while it's been reported that during Trump 1.0, he didn't want Tiffany in any photographs with him because he thought Tiffany was fat. No. Yeah. Yeah, look it up. Y 'all look it up. Yeah, he did not want Tiffany photographed with him because he thought she was fat.
9:54Oh my God, he's so evil. Yeah, he's so evil. Yeah, I mean, they're not going to report on it And Democrats will do this. And I've said, I'm not interested in winning the world's best liberal competition, world's best leftist, most pure leftist. You guys can do that. Good for you. I'm going to make fun of our fat ass president for getting 100%. And we have to also do that and not handering about it and be so like in our feelings about it because that works. Well, I think when it comes to fascists, when it comes to people that are trying to deny equality and push women, you know, out of jobs. And you have Pete Hexeth, who has a very fucked up pastor.
10:33And they're calling people fat. Pete Hexeth is calling service members fat. When it comes to them, they're going to get fat shamed. I'm going to talk about if I think Moses, Mike, Grindr, Johnson is in the closet. I'm going to make fun of big titty Brian. I'm going to make fun of every single one of them because our purity tests in this fight right now don't work. These people are schoolyard bullies and you have to reduce your language to the schoolyard for in order for them to understand. And furthermore, I think we have to start doing reputational brand damage to the Republican man because that's where their big voting block is men.
11:08Yeah. And the MAGA men are such pussies. They're such pussies. They're the biggest pussies in the world. And Gen Z conservative men are more conservative than boomer men. And, you know, they'll say things like, especially around abortion, like Gen Z men are very conservative on abortion in particular. And they'll say things like, well, if you didn't want to get pregnant, you shouldn't have sex. I'm like, well, that's easy for y 'all to say because no one wants to fuck you. but we're fucking over here i know that you look at y 'all's vice president and you look around and you think no one is having sex but we actually are having sex on the left and it's fun and we like doing it and while i most certainly would prefer you know like preventative like screening and testing and contraceptives when the fact of the matter is when you restrict abortion access all of those things get restricted too it's just the way it is so if we share a common goal which I would like for there to be fewer abortions in the world too, right?
12:06My reasons might be different because I'm like, hey, anytime we can exercise preventative medicine, that's good. For the same reason, I would want to avoid root canals and things like that. If y 'all don't want abortions for a different reason, we share a common goal. And the only way to do that is to expand reproductive healthcare. It's not to make it smaller. Well, and the fool's errand of all of this shit is, is this abstinence only culture. And it's number one, it doesn't work. Like, I don't know about you, but I grew up in this, you know, obviously Georgia was pretty conservative. I was Catholic.
12:40So yeah, I grew up with all these conservative Bible thumpers. They were the first to lose their virginity. The very first. I mean, they, I mean, I'm talking 13, 14 years old. Yeah. Bigger the holy roller. The kids were the first out of the gate. I'm sorry. It was right there. It was right there. But the abstinence only is so stupid. And I believe that the whole abortion thing is a punitive psychological reaction to these men that grow up with these desires. They're horny. They want to masturbate. They want to think about screwing. They want to think about grabbing boobies. They want to think about these things, but they're told God is surveilling every single one of your thoughts.
13:30And so if you're thinking about sex, he knows, and that's just as bad as having sex. That is fundamentally insane. We are genetically hardwired to perpetuate the species. And so there's a punitive nature in the Republican fundamentalist Christian party where they want to punish the objects of their desire. So for the straight MAGA men, it's women. And then you get a lot of misogynistic women who go, oh, I know my husband's thinking about, you know, banging a secretary or banging. And he is. Yes. And so then they carry out this punitive nature on women where if they have an abortion, we have to we have to slight shame them.
14:10And the scarlet letter is they have to have their baby. That's the scarlet letter with no prevention. And then, of course, there's the closeted Republicans who want to punish gay men because they're incredibly jealous that gay men have evolved to such a place where they have pride parade, where they're proud, where these closeted Republicans live with just this horrific shame. And then, you know, you die like Lindsey Graham, where then all of the sex workers are coming out of the woodwork talking about, yeah, Lindsey wore red panties. I learned about that on your podcast. Yeah. That's red of all colors.
14:42What a tart. I know. You know, I'm like, I don't even know the last time I ripped out a red set. Like that's like, that's a good point. You know what I mean? Like red, red is like, I really want it. You know what I mean? It's a little desperate. Yeah. You could say. I was like, wow, red, really? Let's, let's take a gander at Darlene Graham. Darlene is of course, Lindsay's sister. And a lot of people are making the point. She's so unqualified. She's so unqualified. And I agree. But I don't know that she's any more unqualified to be senator than Lindsay was because Darlene and Lindsay will both vote for a 80 year old morbidly obese man's fragile ego to destroy the country.
15:25So I don't know that experience or knowing shit from Shinola means anything in the Republican Party. But here is a video, an unearthed video of Darlene embracing DEI. Play the clip. Actually, one of the things I didn't mention, we had 83 consumers that have worked last year. That's more than since 2017. And we've done some major things at our agency. We're working on all new policies and procedures, putting internal controls in place. We've got a diversity inclusion committee. I want to be a leader in state agency when it comes to that. We are really rebuilding the foundation of that agency. Is she wearing a mask?
16:06Yeah. Yeah. Granted, it is under her nose, but she's wearing one. I mean, she is wearing a mask. And did she say diversity and inclusion? She was working very hard on that. I did hear that. It's almost like she recognizes that there are tangible business advantages to having a diverse team. And I used to work in DE &I research and there are. Yeah. It's proven. But all of a sudden, now I'm sure she's shucking anything regarding DE &I. Yeah. In the same way that she also doesn't know anything about national security, like she said at her debate. Yeah. I don't speak politician. What? Well, you probably should learn.
16:44Yeah. If you want to be one. Maggot, I think our argument against that needs to be, does it matter? Because they all speak Trump. Every last one of these pussies, every single one of them, when push comes to shove, it doesn't matter what they know. It doesn't matter if they have a 150 IQ. If Trump says don't vote that way, they say, okay, yes, sir. So lame. It's unbelievable. Can you imagine living like that? It's unbelievable. But let's talk about RFK Jr. Because this guy, here's a clip. Just play this. Children with autism are 100 times more likely to drown than neurotypical children. We have a responsibility to do better on an autistic.
17:26Sorry about that.
17:32Okay. So not only is he sitting there lying, then his phone starts quacking. But here's something that I just want to say to all of our listeners and your listeners that are coming over here to watch you here. This is really dangerous and terrible for people with autism. The demonization of people living with autism. There's all these parents at home right now that have kids with autism. And basically this administration is saying, if you vaccinate your kids, you did it. You did this to them. And then they're going to drown. And then there's such, we have to eradicate it because these people are so terrible.
18:07And it's really such a new form of bigotry that is being mainstreamed by this administration. And it's hard enough to raise a kid. But when you have this dipshit with this quacking phone, sitting there saying that they're going to drown and all of these things, it's just such fear mongering. And to me, it's bigotry towards people with autism. Absolutely. Among all of his serial killer traits, and they are innumerable, having a quack alert as your text tone has got to be at the top of the list. That's insane. Also, his follow-up to that should have been, and I don't know the whole conversation, we want to expand safety measures to ensure that everyone can swim safely.
18:47Like, if you recognize that that's true about autistic people, if they actually are drowning, the answer to that is to ensure that there are more safety measures in place. It's not to demonize autistic people. I love autistic people. None of my autistic friends have ever strapped a bear to the top of their car. They have never done coke off toilet seats, to my knowledge. Some of them are comedians. So maybe the castration of the raccoon penis, they've never castrated a raccoon. They've never had their late wife who wrote in her journal, essentially about all the terrible things he did to her. He's never made it impossible for her family to choose where she's buried.
19:24None of my autistic friends have done anything like that. He needs to keep autistic people's name out of his fucking mouth. That's what it's just, it's really, how is this allowed so openly? And I mean, with Tim Walls calling Gus the R word. Yeah. Here's where I think it all comes from. In 2016, when Trump ran for president, a lot of observers at the time, Barron was younger, noticed Barron and his body movements, stemming and twitching and things. And it was on the internet. And Rosie O'Donnell even said, I have an autistic child. I can totally tell that Barron has autism too. Of course, Trump went apeshit bananas.
20:04But on the trail in 2016, my mother called me and she's a political junkie like me, left leaning liberal the whole nine. Right. And she really likes to get into the psychology of politics. My mother, she called me and she She said, she's from originally from Dallas. So she has this great accent. She said, Jennifer, darling, I think I figured out this whole thing. Don't you think it's bizarre that this billionaire businessman from New York gets on the campaign trail and he drones on and on, but then he starts talking about the babies and they put all these shots in them. And it's, and then all of a sudden the baby comes home and the baby's different.
20:39My mom sent me the YouTube video and sure enough, he says that this little baby and they put all these shots in them to come home and the babies kind of reacts differently. so my mother through her own personal investigation how maggot does their own investigation sure yeah she and others online did this too so much so that melania addressed it in her book defended that baron does not have autism but why was trump in 2016 he's interested in grab him by the pussy he's interested in barack obama's birth certificate why does he care about autism why he doesn't care about anything unless it personally affects him like he gives a shit about vaccines.
21:14Why would he care about this? That's a really good point. Why would, why would he care? It's such an outlier from the shit that he cares about. It doesn't make him any money to say it. It doesn't belittle the people that he likes to belittle. So it was, it really stuck out to her at the time. Well, the theory goes that Barron has autism. Well, if you think about Trump and his always talking about, I have great genes. He's really into eugenics. He's a high IQ person because it's genetic. And his uncle was an MIT professor. I might got the school wrong and how high IQ he is and how high IQ his relatives are.
21:54For him to have an autistic child, because he's a malignant narcissist and malignant narcissists see their children as extensions of themselves. so that's why Ivanka she's hot I mean I don't like her she is I've said that too like she's hot yeah and so he's her favorite you know because that's a total extension of how he views himself so it's like look at the creme de la creme of my DNA so then if he had an autistic child how can he extend that into his narcissism because that is a narcissistic injury so it can't be his fault. It can't be his genes. So it has to be the vaccines. And so ultimately, that's what has led him to this relationship with, and all of this is allegedly, and all of these are theories, but all of this is what has led him to this relationship with RFK Jr.
22:46regarding this. Him talking about putting all these vaccines, what you just heard, said the same shit back in 2016, even during the Republican primaries. And it always struck my mother as odd, like, why does he give a shit about that well then you'd see baron on tapes and and and in in i just want to be fair here melania has said that baron doesn't have it she wrote it in her book she wrote that it was very harmful but i do think it's worthy of conversation because donald trump is bizarrely consumed with this and the irony of the whole thing is suzanne autism doesn't call i mean And vaccines don't cause autism, but you know what does?
23:29Old sperm. Yep. And he was an old man when he impregnated her, Melania. And old sperm is more of a contributing factor. There's never been any link with vaccines. That tracks. That's the T on that. That makes total sense, especially when you think of their pure vitriol towards Tim Walls. And Gus Walls, Tim's son, he doesn't have autism. I don't want to misspeak. it's like a learning disorder. He has some kind of like processing disorder. I don't remember what it's called, but how they are so gung ho on like freely calling Tim Walz the R word. And I think, I wonder if Trump sees Tim Walz proudly and openly loving his son who does have some kind of, you know, processing disorder and in a way feels jealous, kind of like what you were just saying about how these closet Republicans have so much vitriol towards gay men because they want to live loud and proud like that.
24:25He sees someone who has a son, maybe who exhibits similar behaviors to someone who has autism and is angry about that because he could never. I agree. It could trigger, I mean, psychologically it could trigger, oh, he's got a son with, you know, a similar, you know, I don't want to say disorder, but a similar, some sort of sensory process, Yeah, yeah. Whether it's on the spectrum to some extent. And I could see that totally triggering him. I also think that the Tim Walls particularly triggers Republican men because he's kind of the whole package. He's a football coach. But then he was also like, yeah, I don't judge gay people.
25:09I mean, I'll be the, you know, the homeroom teacher of the high school gay club. Fine. I don't care. He's truly what we learn in American culture through whether it be Disney films, films or film or what we think we're supposed to teach our kids, that you stand up to bullies and you protect the marginalized. And Tim Walls lived that. And I just read an article today that Minnesota is the number one state in the nation for quality of life or something. I'm probably going to get it wrong, but Minnesota is the number one state. I'm an honorary Minnesotan in my heart. They were like the only state that didn't go for Reagan either time.
25:46Like it's a, it's like a liberal bastion paradise. And that's why they hate Minnesota so much because shit runs really well there. And it's a great state. So it's like no surprise that there's so much attention on Minnesota because it's like, they don't want it to get out that, Hey, look, this is how it can look when you have like a democratic run government and things are run well, like it can go really well. And they don't want people to know that. So what are they going to do? Call Tim Walls the R word. Like, it's just so, it's so abhorrent. I hate it. Because that's their whole thing is like, they'll always, there'll be people inevitably in the comment section calling us men.
26:26Oh, sure. You know, that's just that, but that's all they have. They cannot. They're not funny. They're not creative with your insults. Exactly. Like, call me, you know, like, girl, you get too much Botox. Guilty as charged. Yeah, no shit. That's the point. I'll own it. They're like, your forehead's frozen. I'm like, yeah, it's working as intended, bitch. I know. Which I say, thank you for noticing. Yeah, thank you. Suzanne, I could talk to you forever. Please, next time you come up to New York, will you just make this a permanent stop? Absolutely. Okay. I would love that. All right. Go follow Mean But True.
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