Elon Musk Has Stage 5 Meltdown and Threatens to Sue Dem Over Allegations

0:04All right, it's Monday in America and Elon Musk is having a stage five meltdown on Twitter over Congressman Ro Khanna, calling for him to be in prison, jailed, etc. And here to discuss these ravings of a lunatic with me, or is the person in question, Congressman Ro Khanna. Congressman, you came on my podcast. We spoke about Elon Musk and now he's completely melting down. I didn't realize a few minutes of conversation with you, Jennifer, would get the world's richest person to have a total meltdown on X. I mean, doesn't he have better things to do than talk about our conversation? He's fired off seven tweets.

0:45He said that he wants to sue me. He said that he wants me in jail. And what's sad about this is it's not intimidating to me, but it's basically trying to silence any criticism. And all I did is cite an academic study, the Lancet study, which has said that those USAID cuts that Doge made potentially could lead to the deaths of millions of children around the world. I didn't even think it was very controversial. It's a UCLA-bet academic study. And the response is to put me in jail or sue me. I mean, it's really a mindset into how the oligarchy operates. Yeah. And the fact that he thinks he has that power to do that, he's a private citizen now.

1:30And to think that he has the reach of the DOJ is really troubling. Let me ask you this, as it pertains to that study, a federal judge found that Musk likely acted as Doge's de facto leader in dismantling USAID, ruling it likely unconstitutional. The lawsuit is still active with a separate class action by USAID contractors also moving forward as of April 2026. So your job as a congressman, part of it is oversight, correct? I'm on the Oversight Committee, and we voted to subpoena him because it must get a side of the story that he now seems intent on saying that it didn't lead to the potential deaths of millions of children.

2:18He had the opportunity to come before the Oversight Committee and actually comply with the subpoena and explain what he was doing. He never did that. He had the opportunity to actually show that he was acting in a constitutional way. He never did that. He ignored Congress. He acted at basically dismantling parts of Doge. And now he, instead of taking accountability and saying, OK, yeah, let me come to Congress and explain what I did or provide transparency in what I did, he's basically threatening any member of Congress who's willing to ask a question. And he's saying, look, I'm going to come after you.

2:57I'm going to come after you financially and sue you. I'm going to come after you by telling my buddies in the Trump administration to try to put you in jail. So does the question still remain for you all and for this judge? If what he did, was it legal? Like nobody voted for Elon Musk and the president just made up this organization, Doge, put him in charge of it. And he went and made a lot of decisions, undemocratic decisions that nobody really voted for. And is there a question as to the legality of what he did and that oversight wants to explore? Absolutely. There's a question of whether he blatantly violated congressional statutes.

3:42You can't just go in to the executive branch. Even if you're the president of the United States, you can't go in and just say, well, I don't want to follow the law that Congress has passed. And Congress passed a law about what money should be in USAID and what those agencies should be. And he way exceeded, in my view, the discretion that he had as an executive branch. And to your point. It's not even that he was a president. He was a appointee that allegedly violated the law. And that is a legitimate, that's why you have a oversight committee to do that exact work. And Mehdi Hassan, our friend, has chimed in here.

4:23Kylie, pop up this tweet. Mehdi says, it's funny that Musk wants to sue Ro Khanna over his speech because, number one, One, Musk claimed to be a free speech champion and absolutist, which of course he isn't. Number two, Kana simply linked to an academic study of deaths from USAID cuts, which Musk presided over. Number three, Musk just called Kana a robber and an insider trader, which is way more defamatory and actionable under U.S. libel law as statements of false facts. So maybe it's time for Kana to sue Musk. First, answer the part about Elon Musk's mirage that he is a free speech absolutist and is now triggered about our podcast.

5:09And number two, about him constantly defaming other people. Why doesn't he come on and debate me here on your podcast, Jennifer? It's an open invitation. I mean, what's he afraid of? I thought he was a free speech person. And now he's saying, well, he wants to sue me because I went on a podcast and said that he should come before Congress to explain his cuts. How about how about a debate here? That's what free speech is. And, yeah, I don't know whether his comments calling me a robber and going after me are defamatory or not. But I don't believe in just suing people I disagree with. If I if I were bringing lawsuits against everyone who would have was defamed me, I'd be doing nothing other than suing people.

5:52But guess what? I'm actually thick-skinned, and I actually believe in debate. And I thought that was the whole MAGA ethos. We're tough. We're going to debate. We're not just going to hide behind lawfare. Well, come debate. Come have a conversation. And people who know me, Jeffrey, you know me, if anything, they say, oh, he's often in a suit and tie. I'm not one of those people who's out there angry. You want to meet some of the younger folks, they're angry. They want far more punitive things than someone like me. I'm 49 once. I'm just trying to have a new social contract. And if they're lashing out in this way against me, they have no idea about the younger generation and how upset they are and shafted they feel.

6:36All right, let's pop up, Kylie, number two, where Elon Musk says about Doge today on Twitter. He says the standard applied by Doge was very simple and easy. Provide contact information for the recipients of aid so that we can confirm it is not fraudulent. The reality is that money was being sent to corrupt politicians under the guise of aid. Liars and stock insider traders like Roe the robber should be in prison. So extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And that's why we have a court system. And so he is claiming that U.S. aid was fraudulently spent. And have you seen any documentation to support the veracity of these claims?

7:22No, I'm not. And we invited him to Congress. We said, OK, if you want to show that there are programs that Congress has authorized that aren't working, come before Congress, show us what those programs are, make the case to Congress for why they need to be curtailed. Does anyone believe that if he came to the American people and said, here is my evidence of fraud, that Congress is going to say, no, no, yes, we just want to keep spending on fraud? Of course not. But he didn't come a single time. He didn't make the case to the American people. He just started to engage in the restructuring of Doge.

7:56And the academic study that I cited shows that this had real world consequences, real world consequences for millions of kids who have no voice in the political process, zero voice. And if someone here is not going to speak up for them just out of humanity, then no one will speak up against them. And, you know, and then he starts lashing out against me or, you know, they ran on all this stuff against me. They put up because I'm for a wealth tax. I said 5 percent wealth tax on billionaires. And they were upset and they ran this guy, Ethan Agarwal. They gave him over a million dollars, went after me personally in false ways.

8:33And he got 6 percent of the vote and I got 63 percent of the vote. We just had this election, you know. So, you know, they can't they can't be that the lies aren't working and they they they are afraid. And why are they afraid? Because they've got a guy from Silicon Valley who knows their game, who knows them, who represents that district saying, you know what? You can actually pay a small, modest tax. So everyone has a fair shot. You know, it's not cool what you did with Doge. And I'm not afraid of them. And this is what scares them, because if I'm going to be doing this, then maybe 434 other members start doing it.

9:09And that's why they're going after me. And if I would think that if I were triggered by this, there might be something where I feel exposed. And scholars say that USAID helped the United States with, quote, soft power and Elon Musk and the Heritage Foundation. and this is what they suggest. And MAGA wanted to start plundering American soft power. And if there is a blue tsunami, Congressman, if it is too big to rig, you're on oversight with Garcia and you could get a new slate of progressive Democrats in there that are incorruptible, that don't fall for, oh yeah, pay me money and then I'll do your dirty work.

9:53And he can run to Austin and hide in a bunker for only a limited amount of time. At some point, the law will catch up to him if it is too big to rig. And Hakeem Jeffries gets the hammer. You guys have every intention to figure out and pick up where he won't let you go to pick this case back up again, correct? Absolutely. And that's why he's upset. That's why he's saying I'm going to sue him or let's have the Justice Department go after him because he's hoping that maybe he can intimidate other members of the committee that when we do become chair, that we won't subpoena him. But has he met people?

10:33Has he met Robert Garcia? Has he met people like Summer Lee on this committee? They're not going to be intimidated. These are people who are in public service. They're tough. They're in it for justice. And we're going to have accountability. And just to give you a sense of how powerful that subpoena is, President Clinton and Secretary Clinton, when they were subpoenaed to testify in front of the Oversight Committee, they had to comply. I mean, this former president of the United States, former secretary of state, they ended up complying because they did not want the House of Representatives to hold them in criminal contempt.

11:06And Elon is going to realize that once we're in power, we're going to have a legitimate subpoena and he's going to comply. The difference between our side and their side is I don't prejudge the matter. I'm not out prejudging his guilt or talking about retribution. I just want accountability under the law. And we will be fair. But what we will not allow for is people to be above the law and evade justice. And that's something I feel like so many cultural shifts have happened with Trump. And the last frontier is obviously Trump has been able to get around the law for a long, long time. And now his acolytes want to be able to get around the law.

11:48And I feel like it's something we really have to fight for accountability, regardless if you're the richest person in the world. And quite frankly, especially if you're the richest person in the world, the law should especially apply to you because you have so much privilege and so much access. that we need to hold these forces accountable. My last question for you is, because it doesn't look like the president is super healthy, and it just feels like every day the news cycle is bananas. I mean, let's face it, what's going on with the reflecting pool, all of this insanity that we watch all the time.

12:26Ruth Ben-Ghiat said that she felt like a lot of these oligarchs that gambled with Trump, that gave him a lot of money are now seeing that J.D. Vance, Trump is setting him up for failure, that he's not going to be the heir apparent. And they're all kind of entering this psychosis. They're all kind of spinning out a little bit. And that's how I read into this. I read all sorts of crazy shit about Musk all the time online. I mean, it's hard to even keep up. The fact that you triggered him so much tells me that there's a lot of meat on the bone here. Let's say, let's fast forward to January and you have majority.

13:04How quickly are you guys, your oversight committee, or how prepared are you guys going to be to accelerate investigations into these types of potential crimes and or illegalities? Day one. And he was triggered not just because I said it, because I said it on your podcast. And he knows how big your reach is. I mean, the fact that the New York Post covered it was because they know how big your reach is. But the through line of my work has been accountability. And we saw it worked against Orban in Hungary. Maggie Aran is saying that he had covered up a sexual abuse scandal. So you look at what we have done.

13:49We worked with Massey on the Epstein files, And that was the first real blow to the Trump administration. I mean, J.D. Vance in the Situation Room covering it up because they knew that covering up for sexual abuse and pedophiles was something the American people wouldn't stand. And they didn't like this idea. There was a group of rich and powerful people who were above the law. At the time, even Musk was saying that they shouldn't cover up the Epstein files. And then, you know, so that triggered him. Trump's posting against me, et cetera, because of the Epstein files. He went against Massey. And then I've said that, you know, Musk needs to be accountable under the law, that you can't just put$300 million into something, elect a president, get appointed, end through your decisions, an agency on which millions of lives depend and think that there's no accountability.

14:39And that triggers him. What does that show that more than 15-point plans, which I love, and more than all of the things that the Democrats care about, we've got to show the guts to hold people accountable. And when we do and when they attack, it actually exposes their weakness and it builds the kind of populist support that we're going to need to have huge majorities in 2026 and beyond. And I know I love Robert Garcia. He is one of the most effective chairs, as is Jamie Raskin, on judiciary. sherry we are going to take this accountability seriously and it's something that's going to unify the country and i would imagine if he sues you prior to the midterms you and your attorneys would be delighted for the discovery portion of the lawsuit uh congressman thank you so much for joining me um who knew that us getting together in chat would blow up the richest man in the world but you know we're making good trouble right i now know when you invite me on a saturday podcast that a lot of things could happen afterwards.

15:41Nobody's safe. Not even Congressman Roe Connick. Congressman, thank you so much. I'll see you soon. Thank you, Jennifer.