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IHIP News Podcast Episode Notes
Episode Overview
- Title: Elon Screws Trump Over, Outs MAGA X Users as Frauds On Purpose
- Description: The episode discusses a new feature on Elon Musk's platform, X (formerly Twitter), which inadvertently revealed the locations of many MAGA influencers, suggesting foreign involvement in the America First movement.
- Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Key Themes and Discussions
Elon's Feature Exposes MAGA Fraud
- Elon Musk introduced a feature on X that briefly disclosed user locations.
- This led to the revelation that many prominent MAGA accounts have foreign origins (Pakistan, Bangladesh, Russia).
- Discussion Point: The hosts suggest this could reinforce longstanding Democratic concerns over foreign influence and Russian psychological warfare against the U.S. electorate.
Elon Musk's Possible Intent
- There's speculation about whether Musk enabled this feature intentionally to undermine Trump.
- The hosts discuss Musk's contentious relationship with Trump, describing it as transactional rather than genuine.
The Role of Bot Farms
- Highlighting the existence of foreign bot farms that promote MAGA narratives.
- These bots reportedly influence U.S. political discourse.
- Key Assertion: The MAGA movement is heavily supported by non-American actors, creating a false perception of grassroots support.
Impacts on American Politics
- The discussion emphasizes how foreign interference has shaped political narratives and public opinion in the U.S., particularly among MAGA supporters.
- The hosts argue that many Americans are unaware of the manipulative tactics used by these foreign actors and how it fuels right-wing ideologies.
Criticism of the Democratic Party
- The hosts criticize Democrats for failing to recognize the battle against foreign influence and misinformation.
- Quote: "We refuse to understand the war we are fighting." - Jim Stewardson
- The need for a more aggressive approach to combat propaganda and misinformation is underscored.
Political Hypocrisy and Manipulation
- The episode discusses the hypocrisy within the MAGA movement where supporters unknowingly amplify messages from foreign actors who are also the target of their rhetoric.
- Example: The irony that many anti-immigrant sentiments are propagated by accounts managed from countries whose citizens are typically marginalized.
Conclusion
- The hosts conclude by stressing the importance of acknowledging and addressing the issue of foreign influence on American politics.
- They call for Democrats to articulate the truth about the lies perpetuated by MAGA and its supporters.
Key Takeaways
- Foreign Involvement: Major MAGA influencers are often based overseas, challenging the narrative of a purely American grassroots movement.
- Elon’s Role: Musk’s actions are seen as potentially self-serving, either to provoke Trump or due to negligence.
- Need for Political Clarity: The Democratic Party needs to adopt a more confrontational stance against misinformation and foreign interference.
- Public Awareness: There’s a pressing need to inform the public about the manipulative tactics used by foreign entities to shape American political discourse.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04Elon Musk exposed a new feature on his coveted ex, formerly known as Twitter, where he was going to let everybody know where the accounts are based. And so put up this headline from the Daily Beast, Kylie. A new feature on Elon Musk's ex has given surprising new insight into the online, quote, America first movement. Top MAGA influencers accidentally unmasked as foreign actors. So it's almost like Josh, who by the way is subbing for PIMS is on vacation. It's almost like we have been saying this for over a decade, the Democrats, that we have a problem with foreign bot farms. And Vladimir Putin is trying to use psychological warfare to get the American public against each other so that he never has to take us to war.
0:57And it's almost like it's been successful. But of course, Elon Musk is too incompetent to have protected his sources on all of this. It's up for just, I think, a day, Kylie, is that right? And then he disables it. He disables it and he changes some of the features on it. Yes. To protect this. So all of these massive MAGA accounts, you guys, I'm talking hundreds of thousands or millions of followers are in Pakistan or Bangladesh or Russia. And all of this, if you remember, Trump alluded to this as the Russian hoax, the fact that all of this propaganda is coming in. there is no truth to it. It's almost like you think maybe did Musk do this on purpose for a day just to take a jab at Trump or is he just that incompetent?
1:44That's a good theory. Because he's like, we're going to throw it out there, then I'm going to take it back. But now I've sort of exposed the fact that all these accounts, everything that they said back then was true. That's, I hadn't thought about that. That's a really good theory because pumps and I often say that when it comes to Kanks and Musk. It's clear that they don't really like each other. And it's clear that they see each other as transactions for transactional means. Musk needed Trump to get into the United States government to shut down all of these investigations into him and to keep the government contracts funding him.
2:21Kanks needed Musk because he was a convicted felon who was about to go to prison if a Democratic president won. And he needed somebody who owned, who had a big stick in social media to keep propagandizing the public. And Kinks needed the money. He was broke. Now he's a multi-billionaire because he's, you know, fleecing the government. But that's a really, really good thing because it was Musk who said when they first broke up, he tweeted, the reason he'll never release the Epstein files is because he's in them. Right. So they're taking digs at each other back and forth. You know, Doge is no longer in existence.
2:58That's like a faint memory to everyone. He's not in any way needing to be in Trump's good graces. So he says to himself, look, I think I'm going to show that the MAGA movement really started in Nigeria. I think I'm going to throw that little nugget out there against Trump and then let that sit for about a day or two. Then I'm going to back out and say, oops, sorry, we shouldn't have done that. Okay, let's deep dive more into these farms on these troll farms on Twitter. Jane Kiev tweets, Kylie popped this up. It's almost like everything we've been saying for 10 years about Russia, building a global troll farm archipelago to install Trump and rip apart American society was true.
3:42Here is MAGA scope, all of these MAGA first, we could show you account after account after account based in Nigeria. And all of their tweets are like, deport Zoran Mamdani, I'm an America first American. And it's some troll farm overseas that's being paid probably by Putin. And it has that sort of influence. So you see probably these congressmen or senators or people in policymaking positions who will or will not tweet certain things based on the backlash of of what, what they tweet and the backlash is coming from Nigeria. The back, it's influencing, you know, what is said or not said. Uh, and it works.
4:26I think the only thing that we did get wrong is that we didn't realize that the Russian propaganda campaign started in Nigeria. Right. Um, but, but yeah, yeah. And what people don't realize is a lot, a lot of tweets that, that get negative reactions, um, that tends to have some sort of, you know, policy, effect. And the negative reaction stems from people that are non-existent. So you have these non-existent farms that are controlling the debate on social media to a certain extent. And we've often talked about that MAGA is faking their support. You may remember during the Trump's inauguration, it was supposed to be this big outdoor thing.
5:09And he is so consumed with crowd size, really petty things that he's consumed with because he leads with a real fragile, narcissistic ego first. He moved it all indoors. And recently he's been at sporting events and been just mercilessly booed. This guy has a 30 something percent approval rating. He is underwater on immigration. And think about it like this. They are getting all of these racist white Americans, which is the core base of Trump's big tent party. You know, it's a big tent that like, oh, you're most racist against black, you're welcome. Trans, you hate them the most, you're welcome.
5:52It's like, you know, diversity and racism in their tent. He's getting all of these people to hate other people, to scapegoat them. So Elon Musk can get government subsidies and milk and be a parasite off the American public. And brown skinned people are the ones over there tweeting this shit out. It's fucking crazy. It's wild. That's right. And sort of validating MAGA's policies. And it's just, but it's something that we've said dating back to the 2016 election. Like everybody knows that these bots are in existence and that's what it is. And I think it was Musk's little way of saying, Hey, I'm going to throw you guys a nugget.
6:32I'm going to show them exactly what this is. Isn't there like an Ivanka Trump, you know, fan page that's based somewhere overseas. And it's like all this stuff and it's fake. It's false. All of the America First movement are nefarious foreign actors. And I think that the larger thing we need to look at is there is a percentage of the electorate that has been looked over where they live. You came from rural America where the only thing that you have in your life, you have this church and that's where you get all of your culture and being an American. And those are the two cultural components that you have.
7:11Big identifying things. People don't focus on learning a lot of different things. You have basically the same conversation with the same type of person your entire life, a white Christian Republican. And so there's a large portion of the electorate that has been fleeced, lied to, looked over, and they scapegoat people that are black, are brown, are gay to keep their eye off the ball and then play into their one identity they have. I'm a Christian and I'm an American. And it's just such a layup for them to get manipulated online and incubate this, their path into fascism. That's right. And part of that is to the defense of some of the American people, people don't have two to three hours to ferret through what's truthful and what's not online.
8:05Like you get very small bits of information within five, 10, 20 minutes, because a lot of people have to work all day. like they get their information sparsely. And so you see these bots, you see this pushback online, you see that for five or 10 minutes. You don't know a backstory. You don't know who it is. You just think, oh gosh, that's being said, you know, and then your nationalism takes over and you want to root for your country. And it's just a real quick thing. Most people can't digest and spend two to three hours online trying to go through this maze of issues to realize that the government is lying to you.
8:39They just don't have that kind of time. And it's a real confirmation bias. Like if you're super, you know, into nationalism and you're super into your church and you're super into patriarchal worldviews, if somebody tweets something like, you know, look at this leader, he's such a wimp ass beta who hates America. It's this real red meat that people can go and can already confirmed their bias. And go ahead. Or they say like, you know, for example, I'm going to side with Jesus and God every single time. Like they create this narrative that really doesn't exist, but the person goes online and sees that.
9:19And yeah, me too. I'm with God. I'm with Jesus. So yes, I agree with that person. And then that's how it just starts. And that person is in Nigeria. Yeah. And that person is in Nigeria and it's a completely false narrative. Like nobody's saying that you don't have to be, but they invoke that passion and they've done it well since 2016. Okay. This was one of the more interesting accounts that was exposed. It's Joe Rogan podcast news. You guys, this has 1.8 million followers and they show clips of Joe Rogan's podcast. And everybody knows that Joe Rogan has the largest podcasting audience in the world.
9:56and he wields a big stick and he allows a lot of this bro culture, toxic masculinity, pseudoscience, worship of Elon Musk. It all is rampant on his podcast. And so obviously when you have assist accounts like this, it's still like just for our podcast, we have our listeners, but then we have our social media clips that get viewed a lot more than an entire episode. The same with Joe Rogan. Well, where is Joe Rogan podcast news based? East Asia and the Pacific. So we're talking about India, Pakistan, somewhere like that. The whole Joe Rogan, Mr. America, I'm going to endorse President Trump. His whole fan club is overseas.
10:46And so it's just insane that all of these pro-America people, America first, let's deport all of the immigrants are getting hustled by foreign actors. And I noticed that his page had been verified only since 2024. So what does that tell you? I think it started in 2013 or 14. So for 10 years, it's just been this rogue bot account. And the fact that, yeah, the hustle is coming from the very same origin of people that you're discriminating against, brown skin people, people from that part of the world is amazing. It's amazing that the person, the people that run these accounts, that feed MAGA, this overt nationalism, Christian nationalism, all of this souped up, juiced up pride that they need to feel to get through the day because the billionaires in the Republican party has been lying to them for fucking years since Reagan.
11:53Wealth never trickled down. That if they saw the face of the person behind that account, they would no more let them in America. It would be America last for you, motherfucker. I don't care how much work you did in your bot farm. You're never going to see this soil. The hypocrisy is breathtaking. Okay. Moving along, this was some really good analysis by Jim Stewardson. And he says, this right here is why Democrats lost in 2024. We refused to understand the war we are fighting. Elon Musk bought Twitter to convert it to a foreign PSYOP canon. The Biden administration ignored it and let people get brainwashed into an alternate reality.
12:36It must stop. And Micah tweets, Democrats have rung the alarm bell about foreign PSYOP for almost a decade now. We were laughed at, smeared and called hysterical. And here's a bunch of accounts. You've got Eric Trump fan account, Barron, Kai Trump, Caroline Levitt, guess what? All Bangladesh, Macedonia, South Asia, not America. All of these pro-American MAGA accounts are not based in America. And I think the one thing that Mr. Stewardson said that I think I've said multiple times on this podcast with you, and I quote, we refuse to understand the war we were fighting. You could take that application, not just with social media and bots, but in a general sense for Democrats.
13:24And that's been my biggest, strongest criticism is that we're not identifying what they're doing and we're not adapting to it. Or we play integrity politics as an opposition to that. And I think that when you look at the failures of the Biden administration, they are abundant. The blank check to Benjamin Netanyahu. The most important presidential appointment of our lifetime was whoever was going to be the attorney general after January 6th. And Biden chose to play integrity politics because he felt bad for Merrick Garland because Mitch McConnell dicked him out of his rightfully appointed Supreme Court role.
14:09and Obama picked a moderate because he, everybody always placates these Republicans. Obama didn't pick some wild progressive. He picked milquetoast Merrick Garland to be the Supreme Court justice because we always caved to Republicans. And then Biden felt so bad about what happened to Merrick Garland. And instead he should have said the most important appointment of my lifetime is going to be which attorney general I appoint and how big of a pit bull fighter are they to make sure that everybody is held to account for January 6th. And in the last week or two, it's been revealed that Trump spent$3 million of his own money.
14:50And this is back when he was broke before he started grifting off crypto to fund January 6th. And Biden totally dropped the bag on that. Listener, I just cannot stand that super heavy caked on makeup look. And being on camera all the time, I do have to wear makeup. And that's why I'm so excited to share with all of you about Jones Road Beauty. And starting November 6, Jones Road is launching their most giftable and exclusive holiday collection yet. So all of you guy listeners, this is a great gift for the ladies in your life. All five limited edition kits in the collection are trios that include new holiday shades, products, and packaging.
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16:12Please support our show and tell them that we sent you. But let me give you my view on the difference of dynamics. So Biden was on the fence even about giving a pardon to his son. Trump is so aggressive. He's asking that he be paid damages for having to go through Department of Justice investigation. I mean, just think how brazen that is. Like what he's asking for, where he's going versus where Biden was willing to go. Like Trump is saying, everything that you investigated me for is bullshit. And by the way, I want to be paid for having to go through it. Keep it in mind, he was part of the insurrection to overthrow the government.
16:59He wants to be paid for being investigated for trying to overthrow the government. And not only that, Josh, these Republican senators now in the governmental reopening bill, the clean CR that the Democrats capitulated on. There is an amendment in there that Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz can now sue the federal government because their phone records were taken by DOJ. And the American taxpayers are going to pay for this. And it just always goes back to we're playing two different games. The punditry after Joe Biden pardoned Hunter, listener, Josh and I were sitting at home. And Josh was like, I cannot believe these pussy Democrats are mad about this because Trump's going to come in and he's going to completely dismantle the entire federal government.
17:51And they're on their high horse talking about Biden pardoning his son. Of course, he's going to pardon his son. Then you look at what Trump does right when he takes office. He pardons everybody that had anything to do with one six and basically says, fuck you. I don't care. And the whole time I'm saying, President Biden, why didn't you say, fuck you? I don't care like that. You know, it was pretty, it's just, it's just like this, this guy said, we refuse to understand the war we were fighting. Everything goes back to that. And that's the thing. When the Democrats had power, they should have understood that Biden, particularly being in government for so long, he should have totally understood that what he tried to do on January 6th was completely different.
18:32That's right. And we needed an attorney general that was a goddamn pit bull. I mean, somebody who went in just like Brazil did with Bolsonaro. And all of these bots and regulating AI and regulating the internet is not censorship. It's safety. And that's what government's supposed to provide us is safety. We cannot have these unregulated Wild Wild West internet waves where, you know, Betty and Dick down the street are all of a sudden, you know, who were nice church going people are now taking their orders from some bot farm in Nigeria, taking up arms. It's just insanity. I know. And then now we've got Senator Graham, who's going to be getting a$500 ,000 check from DOJ because DOJ is the party that will be negotiating that.
19:23All of that just is mind blowing to me that not only do we want to try to scrub or wash one six, but oh, by the way, It was a nuisance to me. I suffered damages. You need to pay me for that. I mean, that's pretty mind-blowing that they would take it that far. Most people would just like for them to maybe move on from it and kind of whitewash it a little bit, but not these guys. They want to be paid. It shows you the Democratic Party has never fully grasped the fight that they're in with these right-wingers. That's right. And that long before Trump, this indoctrination and propaganda has always been there.
20:02And us living in a red state, we see it. We see how diabolical they are. We see how thirsty they are for power. We see how compromised they are with integrity. And put up this tweet from Don Winslow. He says, dear MAGA, your entire MAGA movement is one giant lie. Your entire MAGA movement is a hustle, a cult, a con job. You got suckered. You are suckers. And here's the thing, the people who con them don't give a shit. They don't care. And Democrats think, oh, we really care about them. And they're going to see that. They're never going to see it unless you start calling them out as liars. Every Democratic candidate should get in front of a camera and a microphone and say, you have been lied to for decades.
20:51You've been lied to for decades. These billionaires are making you get mad at the people who own the Mexican restaurant down the street that you love to go binge Mexican food on. They're making you get mad at them so you don't get mad at the billionaires. You pay a higher percentage in taxes than Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos. Elon Musk is now a trillionaire. He is rewarded. And I want to remind you, Elon Musk is always talking about immigration and he's so anti-immigration. He's a fucking immigrant. Elon Musk is an immigrant. That's just insanity. Insanity at its best. Another thing I saw that I thought was interesting, a respected attorney named Ty Cobb gave an interview yesterday and he said that the constitution was not built for someone to resist the efforts of someone as evil as a person like Trump.
21:51Basically, and there's a lot of merit to what he said. He basically saying that no one envisioned a person this diabolical that would do these kinds of things to be able to withstand the scrutiny of our protections in the constitution. I thought it was interesting to hear someone be so candid and honest about it because he was a white house attorney and trump 1.0 that's right um so you guys in normal news cycles something like this fox news if they found out that the entire left wing media ecosystem was based on foreign actors it would be everywhere just like the blowjob to bubba would be everywhere but corporate news is in on this hustle they're in on uh fleecing the working class of America so that they can consolidate power at the top.
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