Elon's Baby Mama Exposes All with Damning Leaked Texts, Stephen Miller Humiliated

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0:34What? Oh, yeah. Elon suggested to you in a text. You want to see the text? I do. Wait, do we have my phone? Was the baby in vitro or old-fashioned? No, no. It was not in vitro. So you all had sex to conceive the baby? It was not in vitro. All right. Joining me today in studio on iHip News is Ashley St. Clair. She is a former right-wing media influencer. And I do not like to define women by their exes. But an important detail here is she has a child with Elon Musk. So I apologize for that because you are your own person on your own. But because he's had the keys to the government, it's an important detail.

1:17And because you were in close proximity to him. So you've been making the rounds now. I keep saying, I'm like, people need to wait to reach out because they're going to think I'm a plant. So I'm like, I swear they're just all reaching out at the same time. So you've been making the rounds on the left-wing media ecosystem. Walk me through what changed in you from, I know you were young when you fell prey to the right-wing kind of cult stuff, but what clicked and what changed where you were like, this is bullshit? Well, let me be clear too about, you know, I am doing left-wing media, but no right-wing media has reached out because they know that I'm telling the truth.

1:56about MAGA. Not a single one. They will talk about me. They will do all this, but they haven't reached out. And I've been on their shows before. There wasn't any one moment. It was very cumulative that I saw things. I got involved very young. I was 18 years old on my college campus and I get involved with Turning Point. And to be so insecure and so young, I was homeschooled in high school. So then I go to college. Oh, the homeschool. It always makes sense. It always clicks for people. Yeah. But then I go to college and I'm like, oh, I'm like, you know, people kind of like me and I'm in this, you know, nerdier side where I like the politics and I get involved with Turning Point.

2:34And it was within a year that then I'm driving Charlie Kirk to the airport and he's telling me I'm doing great work. And that to an insecure 18, 19 year old girl is really formative. And I, for whatever reason, like needed that validation and got it through the worst means necessary and got caught up in it. But the issue with them is that then you get caught up and they tell you, you don't need college. So then I drop out of college. Then I'm financially dependent on this cult. I'm cut off from information because everything is fake news. I'm told not to trust my professors, not to trust anyone except, you know, Twitter and Fox News.

3:13And you just get caught up. I explain it in the way that changing, it's not just changing your mind when you want to leave. It's blowing up your entire life because your social circle, your finances, everything is tied to it. So it's very hard to just leave when you get as deep as I did. so I saw things that were uncomfortable particularly as it relates to women and the treatment of women within the right wing I had experiences of my own like with members of congress like Madison Cawthorn while I was working at republican companies I had horrible experiences with people like Benny Johnson I saw things that were uncomfortable but I couldn't leave And then eventually, skipping through a few chapters, I get an offer for$40 million for an NDA.

4:02From whom? From Elon. Okay. And so when you're - An NDA, like to never say anything about him ever? Non-disparagement into eternity. Okay. 40 million. 40 million. So it was 15 million lumps. When was this? This was December of 2024. Okay. Okay. And it was$15 million lump and then$100K a month for 20 years, 21 years. So a little over $40 million. And in that moment, you have to make a choice. You're like, do I want to be a good person? And there's like very hyperbolically, people talk about like selling your soul in Hollywood and politics, but they never talk about the moment that you're presented with that offer.

4:42And to me, like that was that offer. It was like, sell your soul, take away your voice, no matter what I do, you won't be able to speak about it, but you'll have$40 million. You'll be materially comfortable. Your kids will be taken care of. And so that was right away. I said, um, let's get into the Elon Musk situation and you don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but I'm just dying to know some details like girl to girl was the baby in vitro or old fashioned. No, it was not in vitro. So you all had sex to conceive the baby. It was not in vitro. Artificial insemination? No, I think that would still be in vitro.

5:27I don't want to, you know, discuss the sex life because I know his attorneys will be like furiously writing, but. Right, right. Okay. They're very mad at me all the time. Did you observe him using drugs? Yes. and is this pretty much like a daily addiction would you i wasn't around him daily but there were multiple instances where i was around him and he used drugs and he even texted me saying you know wall street journal did this piece saying i'm high all the time i'm a little high so yeah i mean i for me my husband's in recovery and um it's been a battle for him and when i see Elon in the one video that just blows my mind is when he took his little kid X into the oval and he's just tripping.

6:17I mean, he's clearly messed up. He has a black eye and the toddler with him. And I just think, why isn't, you know, why aren't people stepping in and getting this child to safety? What's very messed up about that situation is, you know, and speaking about this objectively, the mother of X, Claire Grimes, has stated very publicly many times, she does not want that child in the media, that she does not want him online. And so every, in my opinion, every news outlet who continues to post photos of this child and videos is complicit in going against what this mother wants. She's pleaded online many times.

6:50She's reached out to news outlets and she can't have anything done. But doesn't it seem like that, I mean, the media sucks. I mean, for so many different reasons that Elon would be the most accountable there. And why is she allowing the child to be around somebody on drugs? How do you hold the richest man in the world accountable when they have infinite resources and she has to fight him in a court in Texas where you might as well not have rights as a mother? Yeah. I'm thankful enough that I'm in New York. All of the liberal policies I made fun of, I'm now benefiting from. Thank God. But there are still very much like very archaic laws within this country that do not recognize how controlling these situations can be in family court.

7:33No, and you're right because I'm from Oklahoma. And so I know that you can have judges that are very conservative in nature and very anti-woman. And so I certainly understand that and I've seen it happen multiple times before. So when you were with Elon, would you say that y 'all were boyfriend, girlfriend? I don't know that it was ever exclusive, but like we saw each other and spoke very often. And does he? And I just, I knew like who he was. I wasn't like, oh, this is my new boyfriend. Right. Like we're exclusive. I never expected any sort of exclusivity from that individual. Is he, um, it appears to me like he just wants to breed a lot.

8:17Like he wants to have a ton of, uh, babies. So the first time that I spent the night with him, he went to sleep listening to a podcast about Kublai Khan. What's that? A relative of Genghis Khan. Oh my gosh. So I don't know what his deal is. I really don't. Did not inquire, but I know when I was pregnant, he told me, you know, we need to use surrogates. If we want to have, if we want a legion of kids before the apocalypse, we need to use surrogates. Before the apocalypse. So is he, I mean, is he just kind of nuts all the time? Like psychologically, What's going on with this man? I think a professional should evaluate him.

9:00So, I mean, obviously something is wrong, exacerbated by drug use and then unlimited fines. I mean, that would be my opinion. I can hypothesize, but I know I don't talk about the apocalypse and ask people to use surrogates. It's weird. It's weird. Okay. And then Elon suggested to you in a text that - I'll offer you the same thing I did, Hassan. You want to see the text? I do. Wait, do we have my phone? I do have the text. That he suggested that he had a new plan for the election. Hopefully you'll respect me more than Hassan and not read my pick me-isms. I will. I will, actually. But here, let's just search lasers.

9:53yeah october 5th 2024 oh my god this is crazy you guys it says elon musk okay this is not something on the chessboard so they will be quite surprised lasers from space and you said finally a focus on the jewish vote clearly throwing shade to marjorie taylor green um i have over 10 000 lasers in space. So he doubles down and quantifies the number of lasers, which is very comparable to the number of satellites he has. But then what's very interesting is I say, you know, if this ends up being the reason, you know, Trump wins, and he puts 100. And then I said, I would ask more, but I don't want to be deposed.

10:37And he says, wise. So, you know, there's all these people like, what did he do with the election? I don't know. Ask him. So here's where my stance was on it, Ashley, like to me, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So I want to believe that the election was rigged because it's painful to think that 77 million people voted for Donald Trump, who was criminal, misogynist, a racist, incompetent, all this stuff, right? Where's a full face and makeup yet is constantly broad beating trans people. They love gender affirming care at Mar-a-Lago. Yeah, they do. They clearly love it. So I want to believe that.

11:14And then, And then there was a lot of statisticians, like maybe a month after the election, I went down this rabbit hole and it was like, these statisticians were saying like, there's something wrong here, blah, blah. But I was like, okay, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. But it is, it is something interesting coming from him. I do think that if they could do it, they would make it. I think there just needs to be more questions, like especially the role of a social media platform. Like we had Cambridge Analytica with Facebook and we can't ignore that, that someone who is the richest individual in the world who's sending such text messages owns what is essentially a behavioral inference model on X and now has XAI and is doing all of this stuff that in my opinion is like Cambridge Analytica on methamphetamines.

11:58And so they're just at the end of the day, there needs to be inquiry from people besides me. I can tell them what I know and what I've seen and what he's told me and what those engineers have told me. But nobody's asking any questions about it, which is incredibly strange and will be to the detriment of us and democracy, in my opinion. I completely agree. So let's talk about the layers of this cult. So I grew up and lived in Oklahoma City. So I understand the true believers, like the white Christian nationalists, whether they be country club Republicans that like racism and a tax break, or they be rural Oklahomans that really just want, they like Trump because he said, you know, they think he's a badass.

12:46Within the influencer class of MAGA, like clearly Elon Musk is not some Bible thumper. Clearly Donald Trump isn't a Bible thumper. Like when you get to Charlie Kirk and Benny Johnson, are these guys Bible thumpers, racist, bigots? What's the psychology in the influencer class? Some of them are, but they're also hypocritical because there's so much degeneracy going on within the MAGA circle and within these influencer circles that the people who are the biggest Christians in America first and all of this, all of them are completely degenerate. They're drunk. They're cheating on their spouses. They're closet homosexuals, which, you know, more power to you, but they won't come out.

13:28Right. And then they will advocate for the rights of these people to be taken away while they're living that way themselves. themselves and so there's a mode of hypocrisy within MAGA that so many of these people that are like the influencer class they really are failed theater kids like they really wanted to be something they wanted to be famous they were they were too ugly for Hollywood and not talented and so then they get a show on like Newsmax and a show on Facebook and they're making six figures a month on Facebook they're making insurmountable amounts of money off of this and and then getting foreign money, getting paid influence campaigns, like the amount of money.

14:06You brought that up. A lot of foreign money is being paid to MAGA influencers, like other countries, Russia, which we'd heard about. Right. Qatar. Like there is so much foreign money flowing into particularly the right wing. Maybe it's flowing into the left too, but I can only speak to the right. It is so much. I'm aware of one conservative media outlet that was offered. I think it was seven figures to just run like pro-Israel headlines and not even just sprinkle it in. So it's just like total propaganda takeover. And we will never know because of our current... My issue is with our current laws for disclosure.

14:47They don't have to disclose when they're paid for messaging at all because of our current laws and regulations. If I pay you right now to say Donald Trump is awesome, you don't have to disclose that you were paid$100 ,000 to do there. There's nothing requiring that at all. No. And I mean, we're our channel. I funded it when we first started it completely independent. And I want to always keep it that way because I don't want, first of all, I want to be the boss, but I don't want anybody telling me what I can and cannot say editorially as it pertains to like the people in the cabinet, like in Trump's cabinet and Elon was kind of, you know, in the cabinet per se, initially with Doge, these Doge guys, I have a theory and you can, I know you may or may not be able to comment because of court and all of his lawyers and all of this.

15:34But my theory is that Musk. Do you sue me again? That Musk wanted to get into all of these agencies because they were investigating him. And he said during the election of Kamala wins, I'm probably going to jail. He had texted me and I still have these messages. You know, he said, I can't be president, but I can help Trump win. There's about a half a dozen initiatives, investigations of significance into me and more smaller ones, you know, like they're going to take me out. So that was very much, in my opinion, his motivation. Self-preservation. And then I think once you start getting, once you start breaking as a person, I think then it just, you can break to everything.

16:13Like I see it with Democratic politicians that say, oh, we care about trans rights. We care about anti-Black racism. we care about all of these things. And then when it gets to Palestinians, they don't care about little kids getting killed by Israel. And then they take money and then they break, they're broken. I've just noticed that in my own life too, because I'm Jewish. And so I have so many friends who are Zionist or pro-Israel and these people who I thought were like otherwise empathetic people. When it comes to the topic of Gaza and Palestine, I'm like, you sound like a monster. You sound so inhuman that I like, I don't even know who I'm talking to right now.

16:53And that was another thing that like fractured a little bit because there was so much that I didn't know. And so when I took a break from the internet, I was like, I'm going to read everything I wasn't supposed to. I'm going to. So, and I went back to school and one of the first things I did was I took a class on Hegel, Marx and race. And then I took another one on the making of the modern Middle East and how we really made this idea of what we view as the Middle East and going into the history of Islam and all of this stuff that I had never consumed before. I was very sheltered from so much information and my worldview was shaped on ignorance, really.

17:33Well, I grew up with a lot of people that in Oklahoma that are told, this is your worldview. God created the earth in this many days. They're evangelical Christians, But they weren't allowed to critically think or open their minds. You're being Jewish. Did the people in your early days and turning point, did they know this? And I also read online that at some point you went to dinner with Nick Fuentes. And then I got canceled. So I, and that was another thing that kind of kept me in that because then I have all these headlines saying I'm in a photo with Nick Fuentes. So they're, I'm Jewish. And they're like, she's a white nationalist now.

18:07I'm like, what is happening? I was 20 years old, 21. Okay. And what had happened was I had come out against Alabama's recent abortion law. I was like, this is insane. They don't even have any exceptions for rape, incest, what have you. And you're in the MAGA world at this time. And I came out on what I thought was a reasonable opinion about reproductive rights. And Nick Fontes had disagreed with me. And he was like, let's debate. And I'm like, oh, OK. And then everyone's like, no, don't debate him. He's X, Y, Z. and then I'm like okay I'm not debating you and then he you know him and all his followers attacked me for being Jewish being a woman and it was like I don't know if you've ever been attacked by his followers it's a lot it's not his but I have Elons and yeah so so it's like that on steroids really um and I was like 20 years old getting it was my first time getting like an influx of all this stuff and then a few weeks later someone was like why don't you just talk to Nick and I'm like okay Like, sure, I will.

19:07So I talked to Nick, you know, we had a dinner, I have a few drinks. And then they're like, Oh, we're all going back here. I'm like, Oh, okay, sure. Why not? And then there's a photo taken and it's blasted all over. And then I'm like, all of a sudden a white nationalist. And I was like, but then that's my Google search results. So I can't really get a job at Pinterest after that. So even Starbucks, don't you think I understand your age and how you, because I know people that were raised similarly to you and I know how difficult it is and painful for them when they start critically thinking because they've been told Democrats are evil, Satan, all this crazy shit, right?

19:43But don't you think it's fair that anybody that's associated with the MAGA world that we could say they're white nationalists? I think now, yes. There were things that I didn't see that they were a lot more covert about it. And I'm not saying that to say, you know, I was duped, because I think people should stop saying they were duped by Trump. I think he's always been this way. But people weren't critically thinking about it enough. Like, if I critically think about it in retrospect, yes, those signs were there. Right. But in the moment, it wasn't overt, at least in my opinion, because there was this push against people they deemed as white nationalists or anything like that.

20:24I mean, to even consider the fact that at one point, Charlie Kirk's organization was like, we're not white nationalists, and we have to cancel the Jewish girl so that we're not deemed white nationalists. It's weird to think about given, you know, how that evolved and how those open opinions of people like Charlie evolved over time. And you said that like Nick was like, okay, this, she, that you fell prey to attacks of misogyny and antisemitism from the group that basically if I think of MAGA as a big tent, even J.D. Vance won't condemn Nick Fuentes and the Heritage Foundation won't condemn Nick Fuentes.

21:04And so I always say women that carry water for the patriarchy are going to be some of the first to drown. And I find it interesting, like Kash Patel, I grew up in pretty white areas in Oklahoma City. I know exactly what's going to happen when he gets canned. I know all of the racism is going to come for him from within the support of the MAGA movement. So did that, when they started calling when the misogyny, when they targeted you, was that part of the deconstruction? It was one of those moments because simultaneously turning point. So they like sever ties with me, but they were still working with me.

21:37It was just like a public, whatever. They were keeping people who were on camera talking about raping women. They were keeping people who were, you know, this was very public. They were keeping people who had allegations of sexual assault. And so to see that contrast, and I'm like, I'm canceled for being in the wrong photo with unsavory characters. And there's people who, who have allegations of abuse against women that are allowed to stay on here. And so that's one of those moments where I'm like, oh, they, they really just don't care. Did you meet Erica Kirk? No. You didn't? No. I saw her briefly at Candace Owens' wedding, but that was...

22:16You went to Candace Owens' wedding? It was at Candace Owens' wedding. Oh my God. That's incredible. Where was it? It was at one of the Trump, I think it's the Trump Winery in Virginia. It was like actually a really beautiful wedding. Sorry. It was a really beautiful wedding. Like I got to give her credit. She had really nice arrangements. She's very pretty. She is. But yeah, I was there and that was. And Erica was there. Yeah. So I think the. I think it was. She was with Charlie. Yeah. I think the whole turning point thing is going to be over. I don't think she's going to be able to carry that because she's number one.

22:52And I mean, clearly something's wrong with her objectively. Did you see the Un-Fuck America kids? No. They just did this whole expose on how so many of the turning point chapters are fake. Like they're ghost chapters. They don't exist. So it looks like, at least from their reporting, that they're just boosting these numbers for donors to make it look like they have more of a student movement and operation than they do. Wow. I mean, that wouldn't surprise me. I did a whole documentary. I think when she did the whole WWE funeral, I just, I think that that on the national stage, some people that were kind of like, I like Trump's tax breaks.

23:26They saw that and they're like, this is some weird shit. Like it is really weird shit. So within the MAGA movement, I think a lot of these men, it centers around suppressed sexuality within the men. I think that that you've got a lot of gay curious guys in MAGA, a lot of bi curious men, and then just like total sex addicts. And so you have mentioned before, I saw a clip, I can't remember whose podcast it was that you, when you were in MAGA circles, everybody's fucking everybody, everybody's partying their ass off. And then you've gone to some democratic parties and people are like, it's nine o 'clock.

24:03We've got to get home to the babysitter. Yes. I was like, oh my God, you guys don't want one more drink? And they're like, no, we have to leave early. We have to go back to our kids. Tell me about these MAGA men broadly. So when my first experience was I go to the Young Women's Leadership Conference. I'm 20 years old. It's my first like turning point conference where I'm like a real special guest. Okay. And I meet this guy, DC Drano, Rogan O 'Hanley, who's like 10 years my senior. He's like sweeping me off my feet, having me move in with him. I leave college i leave my college town dc dranos i like drain the swamp yes oh i get it i i move into his bunk-ass tampa apartment and he's like this is how you you know here's what you write on the signs outside of the ice detention center he's telling me what to tweet he's like molding my little brain he's like here sell t-shirts sell maggot t-shirts like it was very much molded but simultaneously this guy is like oh i'm this christian conservative we need to take back america and he's on kratom all the time.

25:05He's always drinking kratom. Kratom? Yeah, kratom. I can't remember what it's pronounced. I know what you're talking about though, the opiate thing. Yes, he's always drinking kratom. He's always, you know, at least when I was with him, he always had his little weed pen. He was always on something and putting out this perception that he's just like, you know, this Christian godly man. He was pretending to be Jewish for a minute. Like these people are a mess. What? He was faking being Jewish? They all do this. Anna Polina Luna did the same thing there's an article saying that she was saying she was jewish and then it turns out her grandfather's a nazi what they were calling her the new george santos oh my god i mean they're just weird jen like and and that's what i want to say like these people are just people and they're very broken yeah yeah yeah they're really broken and that's why i find it incredible that they're so fixated on the trans issue they're like oh you know identity issues All of those people have identity issues.

26:00Totally. They think that they're men and they're actually pussies. You're like, you have the biggest identity issues I've ever seen. Well, I think the biggest argument for Democrats with the trans issue is to simply say, why is MAGA so obsessed with genitals? Why are they so obsessed with gay sex? Why? Because it's not like, I don't wake up every day and go, oh my God, I'm so straight. Let's talk about straight stuff. But when you get into these MAGA men, they are consumed with trans issues and LGBTQ plus issues and gay sex. And then you start diving into it. Like if you look at I call the speaker of the house, little Moses Mike Grindor Johnson is for him.

26:41I call Benny, Benny Grindor Johnson. Benny Grindor Johnson. Like he told on himself with the gay cruise thing. And I'm just like, of course, he's of course, of course, this is what this is. But the science backs this up, Ashley, because I found this study. Trans porn is consumed the most in all of these bright red counties. Yes. And so it's just really, to me, it's obvious. It's all projection. But at the same time, the most gender-affirming care happens at Mar-a-Lago. Okay? So they need to stop. They're spending far more than we are on our taxpayer dollars on trans youth or trans-affirming. They need to stop.

27:19Okay? Yeah. None of those people, they're all engaging in gender affirming care. I agree. Okay, let's talk through this. I sincerely can understand how somebody can be impressionable and fall into groups and then a deconstruction can ensue. the the co-host to my podcast Angie pumps she when I first met her thought the earth was 6 ,000 years old was a republican and now she is the biggest you know cheerleader for democracy and for human rights so I have this kind of thing where I I want obviously I want people to evolve and as people kind of get deconstructed from this you're going to get a lot of criticism yeah like oh okay right And as you deconstruct from this, I think you had written a book about the, it was easy to hate, like about trans, a children's book about trans.