In short
Podcast Episode Notes: Gavin Newsom Walks Back His Attack on ICE While New Reports of Murders Surface?
Podcast Overview Title: IHIP News Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan Description: A comedic and progressive take on political news from a red state perspective, offering insights and responses to contemporary issues.
Episode Summary In this episode, the hosts critique California Governor Gavin Newsom for his perceived lack of moral clarity regarding Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and its actions. They express frustration over the Democratic leadership's retreat from strong progressive stances, especially in light of recent reports about ICE's conduct leading to potential homicides.
Key Discussions
- Critique of ICE
- Public Sentiment: The majority of Americans disapprove of ICE's actions, viewing them as acts of state-sponsored terrorism.
- Recent Incidents:
- A report of a detainee allegedly choked to death by ICE guards raises serious concerns about ICE's treatment of individuals in custody.
- The hosts emphasize the need for accountability and clarity regarding ICE's actions as a “goon squad” for the previous administration.
- Gavin Newsom's Stance
- Backtracking on ICE Criticism: Newsom's recent comments, which appear to align with more conservative figures like Ben Shapiro, are seen as a betrayal to progressive ideals.
- Desire for Moral Clarity: The hosts argue that true leadership requires standing firmly against abuses of power, particularly when it involves human rights violations.
- Frustration with Political Strategy: The hosts question Newsom’s motives for engaging with conservative voices instead of solidifying support among progressives, highlighting the danger of compromising on core issues.
- Comparison to Historical Contexts
- Historical Parallels: The episode draws comparisons between ICE and historical oppressive forces (e.g., Mussolini's Blackshirts, Hitler's SS), framing the current situation as a moral issue that will be scrutinized by history.
- Call to Action: The hosts encourage listeners to oppose the normalization of ICE's actions and advocate for its abolition.
- Responses to Political Discourse
- Discussion of Public Perception: The hosts relay that there is a growing discontent with ICE among various voter demographics, including independents and moderate Republicans.
- Critique of Conservative Messaging: They express concern over attempts to reframe ICE's image through propaganda, drawing parallels to broader political tactics used by governments to suppress dissent.
- Mobilization for Change
- Grassroots Call to Action: The hosts emphasize the importance of grassroots organizing, urging listeners to engage others in political discussions and ensure voter registration, particularly leading up to elections.
- Empowerment Against Oppression: They underscore the need for collective action against perceived injustices and the importance of fighting for human rights and social justice in America.
Key Takeaways
- The hosts advocate for progressive politicians to take a strong, unambiguous stance against ICE and similar institutions.
- There is a call for increased accountability among elected officials, particularly those seeking higher office, like Gavin Newsom.
- The episode encourages listeners to actively participate in shaping political discourse and mobilizing against oppressive policies.
Conclusion The episode serves as a passionate appeal for moral courage in politics, stressing the importance of standing up against injustices and advocating for those affected by systemic oppression. The hosts believe that real change can only come from an informed and engaged electorate willing to fight for their rights and those of others.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction to ICE's Role in Society
0:00 to 0:56
Discussion on the perception of ICE and its actions in America.
“ICE is terrorizing people in the streets.”
Gavin Newsom's Controversial Stance
0:56 to 2:50
Analysis of Gavin Newsom's response to ICE and his political strategy.
“That was the original statement I said at the time.”
Critique of Government Actions
2:50 to 5:03
A critical look at the actions of ICE and the implications for civil liberties.
“What ICE is doing in Minnesota is horrific and it is state sponsored terrorism and start saying it.”
Calls for Abolishing ICE
5:03 to 7:09
Discussion on the need to abolish ICE and the historical context of such actions.
“And I understand that in politics, you can be super progressive and then you get elected and you might have to compromise on things.”
Public Opinion on ICE
12:39 to 14:02
Examining the declining public support for ICE and political repercussions.
“So make sure to mention this podcast to support our show.”
Deportation and Control of Narrative
14:02 to 14:37
Discussion on the deportation of U.S. citizen children and control of narratives by powerful entities.
“We're doing operations in elementary schools and churches and hospitals.”
Critique of Government Policies
14:37 to 16:18
A critical examination of the inhumane policies of the Israeli and U.S. governments.
“They just want to control the algorithms, which they already do, but they just want to suppress the murders, the homicides in El Paso, the putting pepper balls in peaceful protesters' faces.”
Grassroots Efforts for Democracy
16:18 to 16:58
Emphasis on the need for grassroots movements to combat oppressive policies and uplift democracy.
“There could be ICE agents in the streets.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04ICE is terrorizing people in the streets. The majority of the American public does not approve of ICE, does not approve of their actions. It is very clear that the administration is using ICE as Donald Trump's personal goon squad. You might remember in Trump 1.0, he spoke to people in his administration about admiration for the way Hitler's generals behaved. And we have a lot of American citizens, even children with cancer, in ICE custody. And so I imagine that the Democratic frontrunner for president in 2028 has a very sense of moral clarity about this issue. I would imagine that he is going to go full tilt on ICE and meet the American public where they are.
0:55Let's hear what Gavin Newsom has to say about ICE. Was a narrative that was immediately pushed by the Trump administration and Secretary of Homeland Security, Christine Ohm, that she was a domestic terrorist who was attempting to run over officers with her car and was legitimately trying not just this officer, but multiple officers. That was the original statement I said at the time. I thought that was untrue. And then your press office tweeted out that it was state-sponsored terrorism, which, I mean, Governor, I have to ask you about that. That sort of thing makes our politics worse. And it does.
1:27Our ICE officers obviously are not terrorists. A tragic situation is not state-sponsored terrorism. Yeah, I think that's fair. Okay. It is state sponsored terrorism. Ben Shapiro saying that makes our politics worse. What makes our politics worse is that an ICE agent shot a woman that didn't need to be shot. And then the United States government called this woman with her black lab in the backseat of her car, a terrorist. And Gavin Newsom plays patty cake with Ben Shapiro. Who is this for? Who is this for, Gavin? Are you trying to get, you always talk about, I have Republicans in my family. Are you trying to get those people to respect you?
2:17Because what you're doing is taking a grenade and any chance that you had to really solidify the base and go, God, this guy's a fighter because your press office is right. Your press office fights this administration tooth and nail and those tweets are popular because people feel like, thank God somebody's fighting for us. Your press office didn't gaslight us the way Ben Shapiro and then your acquiescence to him just did. When your press office said that Kristi Noem is a domestic terrorist, she is. What ICE is doing in Minnesota is horrific and it is state sponsored terrorism and start saying it.
3:03This isn't a left position. Everybody across the United States of America sees this. This is the don't tread on me. This is the shit that Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, and all these other pink arm, low T right wing media podcasters were screaming about. We can't have a large federal government that is eroding civil liberties in the streets. And it just amazes me that we want to sit down and play patty cake with Ben Shapiro, who nobody likes, his voice, his fingernails on a chalkboard, and allow him to dog walk you on something. The problem isn't you calling a spade a spade. That's the solution.
3:50The problem is the United States government killed an innocent mom of three. And then the ICE agent called her a fucking bitch and turned around and walked off. And now they're investigating the dead woman, the murdered woman and her wife as domestic terrorists. If you can't have moral clarity on this, you cannot lead a resistance, an opposition, nor can you lead this country. Because it seems like when push comes to shove, Gavin, when it comes to taxing billionaires, which is a very popular position among the American electorate, you're on the side of the billionaires. It seems like when it comes to calling out the execution and the murder of an American citizen of Trump's Goom Squad, you sit there and provide daylight with Ben Shapiro.
4:50I'm sorry, but this is not, I know that you've been running and I used to really appreciate back in the day when you were San Francisco mayor, your moral clarity about LGBTQ plus stuff. And I understand that in politics, you can be super progressive and then you get elected and you might have to compromise on things. Fucking ICE is not it. Taxing billionaires is not it. So this is just completely disappointing, especially when I wake up this morning, Gavin Newsom, and read this headline right here. Pop this up. Washington Post is reporting breaking news. An employee of El Paso County's office of the medical examiner said it is likely to classify the death of Geraldo Lunas Campos at an ICE detention center, a homicide.
5:38A detainee says he witnessed Campos being choked to death by guards. So we have a homicide at an ICE facility. And you're going to let Ben Shapiro dog walk you about this stuff. This ICE is not law enforcement. This is Trump's terror squad. This is his goon squad. These are the people in Trump 1.0. You may remember he asked Secretary of Defense Esper, can you shoot the protesters in the legs so that they'll leave the park in front of the White House? And he said, no, it doesn't work that way. Now he has ICE. ICE will do that. They're shooting pepper balls and pepper spray and with bullets to Renee Good.
6:25They are actually shooting people. So to not have moral clarity on this to me is completely disqualifying, 100 % disqualifying. As politicians in this fascist regime, in this critical time in human history, I'm looking for evolution. Maybe people, a politician is going to arise like Chris Murphy, a United States senator who I've had on the podcast, who has evolved about corporate PAC money. He's evolved about Democrats being beholden to corporations. And he says it. I've really evolved on this issue. Gavin Newsom, you're devolving. You're not evolving. And so I think the electorate, we're not looking for a perfect candidate.
7:09We're looking, do I agree with this person in seven out of 10 things? Gavin, you're making it to where we're only going to agree with you about two out of 10 things. And so if you can't fight for the American people, if you can't fight for the working class, if you cannot fight for Minnesotans, for Americans that are getting terrorized, for a person that's getting choked in ICE custody and now it's ruled a homicide and you'd rather have the optics of your neon sign. This is Gavin Newsom. This is Gavin Newsom getting dog walked by Ben Shapiro. Hit the bricks. Like I don't want that. I want somebody who can win, but more than anything, I want somebody who stands on principle, stands up to these guys.
7:52Maybe get advice from your account, the people, your press office, maybe ask them to be your advisors, because whoever advised you to do this, or if this is just who you are, it's disqualifying, in my opinion. Moving along, y 'all may remember I had that viral tweet where I call out triple Trumpers that want to go to a Mexican restaurant and enjoy Mexican food, but then they go and vote for Trump, right? Fox News browbeat me for it. You know, it's just, it went uber, uber viral. Told them to get their fat asses out of the Mexican restaurant and go eat a Cracker Barrel. Y 'all probably remember it.
8:30Well, sometimes these things kind of come true. Pop this up, Kylie. Ice agents eat at a small town Mexican restaurant, then arrest workers. Federal agents detained three workers from a family-owned Mexican restaurant in Wilmar yesterday, hours after four agents ate lunch there. And so this is exactly the hypocrisy that Gavin Newsom just displayed on his podcast. This is the hypocrisy that all of these triple Trumpers display all of the time. They want to go enjoy multiculturalism. And then they also want to be racist pricks. And they have a really hard time reconciling all of that. And I have a very simple message.
9:17The United States of America is a multi-faith, multicultural nation. We were taught from a very young age that we are a melting pot. And the majority of us, Gavin Newsom, the majority of us stand with all of the people being terrorized by ice. 30 % of the Americans, one third, and I guess that's why you have Ben Shapiro on your podcast because you're trying to peel off some of those people. I don't know. I don't know what the logic is on that. It's unhelpful and it's hurtful. It's an ultimate betrayal when people believe in their politician to fight for them, to fight for human rights, to fight against corporate greed.
9:59And then you see these people. Now, can you sit down and talk to people from the right? Yes. And I know that there are clips in that podcast where you stood against like the red state crime versus blue state crime. And some of those conversations are really productive. I give you that. But to allow Ben Shapiro to dog walk you on that, to me is the most disqualifying clip I've ever seen. Moving along, here's a tweet about ICE and the position needs to be that ICE needs to be abolished and dismantled. Aaron Rugenberg tweets, Mussolini had his black shirts, Hitler had his SS, and Trump has ICE, an army of ideologically motivated chuds whose new members owe their employment not to the state, being largely unqualified for legitimate positions, but rather to Trump's personal patronage.
10:53So I just want to remind everybody, 20 years from now, 30 years from now, 40 years from now, when all of this is written about in the history books, those of us who have moral clarity right now and say ICE needs to be abolished, this will be regarded as people being on the right side of history in the same way if people in early 1930s Germany were saying the Gestapo must be abolished. This is not a wild leftist progressive position. This is a moderate, a moderate American position. As I get older, I find I have more questions about my health, more questions about do I need to be taking supplements?
11:36If so, what should I be taking? Should I be on a certain exercise as nutrition plan? That is why I am so excited to have found superpower. Superpower sends a licensed professional to your home or you can visit a nearby lab. It's a simple blood draw with over 100 biomarkers, including detailed hormone testing. So women can actually see what's changing in their bodies instead of guessing. This is especially powerful for women navigating perimenopause, menopause, or trying to decide if hormone replacement therapy might make sense. Make this the year you stop guessing about your health with Superpower.
12:20Not only did Superpower reduce their price to just$199, but for a limited time, our listeners get an additional$20 off with the code IHIP. Head to superpower.com and use code IHIP at checkout for$20 off your membership. After you sign up, they'll ask how you heard about them. So make sure to mention this podcast to support our show. And then the last clip I want to play for you is of Tom Homan. Tom Homan is having a problem with ICE right now because the polling, and I guess nobody gave Gavin Newsom the polling on ICE, the polling with the American public is that this thud squad, this goon squad, this domestic terrorist organization.
13:11People don't like it. Independents don't like it. Even a lot of Republicans don't like it. Democrats hate the shit out of it. Play this clip. Tom, are you concerned about the CNN and Quinnipiac polls that showed declining public support for ICE and President Trump's approach to immigration CERTAINLY CONSIDERING ENFORCEMENT. DO YOU THINK THOSE ARE ACCURATE OR ARE THEY BEING EGGED ON BY THE PRESS? I THINK THEY ARE BEING EGGED ON BY THE PRESS. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF FALSE MEDIA OUT THERE AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE BETTER AT MESSAGING WHAT WE'RE DOING. BOTTOM LINE IS 70 % OF EVERYBODY ARRESTING A CRIMINAL.
13:47WE NEED TO START ADVERTISING THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY AND PUT THEIR PICTURES ALL OVER SOCIAL media. And, you know, the bottom line is if people listen to most of the media, not this network, they're going to hear that ISIS separating families every day. We're deporting U.S. citizen children. We're doing operations in elementary schools and churches and hospitals. We just got pushed back the lies because I think a lot of people don't get the facts. We got to be better at getting the facts. Okay. You know what this reminded me of when I heard it? It reminded me of when Benjamin Netanyahu was sitting down with all of the American influencers saying, we need to control TikTok.
14:25Like they were having, Israel has a hard time spinning genocide, but they think, oh, if we just control the propaganda, then it will be okay. And the same actions are going to be taken by ICE. They just want to control the algorithms, which they already do, but they just want to suppress the murders, the homicides in El Paso, the putting pepper balls in peaceful protesters' faces. And even if they're not peaceful and they're saying, hey, fuck you, Ice, and they're standing there just like this, you don't deserve to have pepper balls thrown in your face. If you want to be a nice agent, you better be ready for smack talk.
15:06If you want to be president of the United States, you better be ready for smack talk, But consistently and constantly, these people are thin skinned, low T, emotionally stunted individuals. And the through line here with the Israeli government, not the Jewish people, but the Israeli government and the United States government is their policies are so inhumane. and so unjustified that the only solution they can come up with is suppressing the truth and increasing the propaganda. That's all they have. So for Gavin Newsom to participate in this, I want to play patty cake with fascists and get dog walked by Ben Shapiro.
15:52I have to say this, you guys, nobody is coming to save us but us. And our turnout for these midterms, it is going to have to be a grassroots effort. I'm going to tell 10 people, make sure they're all registered to vote. Those 10 people tell 10 people. and we go out in mass and it is too big to rig and we go out not obeying in advance. There could be military in the streets. There could be ICE agents in the streets. It could be dangerous, but we have to go hand in hand and fight for our democracy and fight for our fellow Americans, people that are here that are getting terrorized by the Christie Gnomes, the Stephen Millers and the Tom Homans of the world.
16:42And we have to send a message not only to all of these fascists, but also to the Democrats who allow themselves to get dog walked by fascists and acquiesce to this, that we aren't going to stand for it. We are a country of 250 years imperfect. We may be, but we believe in human rights and we believe in social justice unconditionally. All right, that's all we have for today. Please subscribe, like, comment. I'll be back later with more news.
From the publisher
Democratic leaders are walking back when we need them to step up.
If you’re tired of being tired, this is your chance to finally get answers and get your energy back. Go to https://Superpower.com and use code IHIP for $20 off your membership this year.
Order our new book, join our Substack, shop our merch, and more by clicking here: https://linktr.ee/ivehaditpodcast.
See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

