Gavin Slammed After Disaster Admission, Dems Take Notice and Distance From AIPAC

0:04all right welcome to ihip news i have our warrior our cynical pragmatist kyle kalinsky joining us today Hey, Kyle, how are you? I'm doing great. And thank you for that. I've never been called a cynical pragmatist, but I think I like it. I think it's true. I mean, if the shoe fits. That's a solid one. I like that. Very creative. Let's go right into pick me, Gavin Newsom, who seems to be changing his opinion based on the news cycles. So I just want to play the clip and then let's dissect it. Play the clip. You're a Zionist. Do I consider myself a Zionist? I believe, I revere the state of Israel.

0:44I'm proud to support the state of Israel. I deeply, deeply oppose Bibi Nott and Netanyahu's leadership, his opposition to the two-state solution, and deeply oppose how he is indulging the far right as it relates to what's going on in the West Bank. Do you regret using the word apartheid to describe Israel? I used it, I do in this context, that I said it and I referenced why I used it, a Tom Friedman article in that same sentence where Tom used it in the context of the direction that Bibi is going. Not the current state. And the concern, correct. Okay. And that is a legitimate concern I have that I share with Tom that that direction.

1:23I've heard enough. Why are we in this world where you cannot say a fact that Israel is an apartheid state? Why do we have Democrats that are denying facts in the same way that MAGA does? Kyle. It's I mean, the main reason is the Israel lobby, right? And like the main one everybody comes to mind is AIPAC. But there's other elements to the Israel lobby as well. There's DMFI Democratic majority for Israel. There's other shell groups. Now, they're basically Israel lobby money that they call like elect Chicago women and like bland stuff like that. And that's the main reason like that has a stranglehold on the Democratic Party in the same way that obviously the entire Republican Party is too far gone on this stuff.

2:02And they're totally bought by the Israel lobby. And what Newsom is doing there is called the one bad man theory of politics. You know how there's like the one great man theory of politics? There's the one bad man theory where they go, look, if we just get rid of Benjamin Netanyahu, everything would be phenomenal with Israel. But the problem with that is it's total BS. There's this guy named Yair Lapid who is the opposition to Netanyahu. And he also is in favor of what's called the Greater Israel Project, which basically means Israel gets to crusade through the Middle East, basically steal the entire Middle East and create their own version of the Fourth Reich.

2:30OK, so there is no like it is genuinely a problem with Israeli society. I just saw a poll earlier today, up to 95 % of Israelis support this illegal and offensive war on Iran. Whereas here in the US, the average is about 35 % of people in this country support that stupid war. So we have a real problem here and we do ourselves no favors by not accurately describing it. I completely agree. And you have this, now there's this narrative that if you say that Israel played a huge part in bringing us into the war, that's somehow anti-Semitic. But when I do a roll call on this, little Marco said it. Little Moses Mike Grinder Johnson said it.

3:09Trump himself has said it. And Benjamin Netanyahu said it where he said, my dream, my 40 year dream of invading Iran. But yet if somebody on the left or this guy that left Trump, the Trump regime and ran home to Tucker Carlson. Yeah, Joe Kent. If they say it, then somehow it's anti-Semitic. And we have to live in a society where you can criticize governments. You just, you have to be able, like, I believe right now, any of our allies, any country, criticize the shit out of the United States of America. We deserve it. There's a portion of our electorate that is dumb as fuck, and they need to be ridiculed and criticized because the whole world order hangs in the balance of how people in Wisconsin vote and that's insane.

3:56Yeah. And it's also, by the way, just factually speaking, it's apartheid. This is not really like a matter of debate or discussion when he says, oh no, I regret calling it apartheid. Okay, well, then you're just disagreeing with like every major human rights group on the planet you're disagreeing with. I mean, genocide, for example, that's another one. He said to Ben Shapiro, oh, what they did in Gaza is not a genocide. Okay, well, then you're arguing with B'Tselem, who's the number one human rights group in Israel. Okay. So at this point, it's just, it's political suicide to try to still split the difference and somehow take like this middle path to the issue of Israel.

4:30Read the room, like the democratic base, I've seen polls anywhere from 3 % to a maximum of 15 % of our base actually supports Israel. And you think you're going to be the nominee doing this sort of chicken shit nonsense. There's no way that's going to work. Okay, let's now discuss the danger and the lie that occurs where the far right people like Benjamin Netanyahu try to conflate and that Jonathan Greenblatt that criticizing Israel is somehow anti-Semitic, which is so disrespectful to so many Jewish Americans who rabidly criticize Israel. Israel. And I think that they do this whole thing like, the lie is this, Kyle.

5:14The lie is you're making Jews less safe. And it's like the people that are making Jews less safe are the people that are going for the greater Israel project. And they'll take down everybody. That's right. And Zionism, by definition, is supporting an ethnostate. You're saying, I support an ethnostate and I support a theocracy. And I thought we all agreed that, you know, secular democracy is the best way to go. I thought we all agreed that human rights and equality is the way to go. I don't make random exceptions to those ideas. I think as a matter of principle, since I believe in enlightenment values, equality matters, democracy matters, Secularism matters.

5:53So no, you're not going to bully me into saying I'm against all ethnostates except this one that I'm going to carve an exemption for. That's like, imagine somebody doing that with like apartheid South Africa. Yeah, I'm against all ethnostates except apartheid South Africa. It's like, that's crazy. You sound ridiculous when you say that. I completely agree. And now you have some of the Democrats that are getting the message on this. And again, Gavin Newsom changing his opinions. Other Dems changing their position now. It kind of, it feels like pick me, like they don't believe in anything. And so pop this up, Kylie.

6:29Democrats eyeing 2028 are ditching American Israel Public Affairs Committee money as voters turn against Israel's government. Booker, Newsom, Gallego, Shapiro, Beshear all distance themselves, making it a likely litmus test in the primary. So here's my question. If the Democrats are not clear eyed and look in the camera and say, we do not support apartheid, we do not support genocide. Benjamin Netanyahu is a liar and a war criminal. And we are not going to partner with a war criminal because we already have a president that's a war criminal. And we're anti all of that. We're anti every single bit of that.

7:10And Tucker Carlson is making points in 30 second clips where I know a lot of people, that's how they consume politics in flyover states like, oh, he says Israel. I mean, he says that MAGA lost the message. And their whole thing now is it was never about the man. It was always about the movement. We really are America first. How dangerous is it that Democrats do not have moral clarity on this to carve the way and incubate somebody like Tucker Carlson, who I think is going to run for president? Yeah, I mean, shit, that's a whole can of worms that we can open up there. But I genuinely believe the Republican project is cooked post-Trump.

7:53I really think for a generation, Republicans are not going to be chosen by the American people because everything is – I mean, we're going to have a Great Depression. We're already in like World War III at the moment. But to your broader point here about AIPAC, the argument needs to be cut off all the money, cut off all the weapons and sanction Israel. And what they're doing here is the Democrats are effectively trying to do a trick where they say, oh, yeah, we'll write off AIPAC. But it's like, OK, did you write off J Street? Did you write off all the other shell groups that effectively are Israel lobby money?

8:24Because the Israel lobby is adjusting. And now they're changing their name to random shell groups and they're running ads for their preferred candidates. where they don't even mention Israel. They're like hiding the fact that they support Israel. So they've adjusted and they know you're still gonna have candidates like Gavin Newsom and J.B. Pritzker and Josh Shapiro. They are gonna find a way to get that Israel lobby money because the Israel lobby knows, hey, these are people who will actually support us. And that's where we need to be sophisticated. And so we need to get right to the point. Do you support an arms embargo on Israel?

8:54Do you support cutting off all subsidies to Israel moving forward? And if they waffle on that or they get it wrong, then we should have no interest in them whatsoever for being the standard bearer for the Democrats. Okay. And what do you think, like I have this fantasy where some progressive senators will, and you hear rumblings of it, but then they never do anything where it's like Senator Warren, Chris Van Hollen, Chris Murphy, and others just revolt and say, Schumer hit the bricks. This is, you're not meeting the moment. How effective do you think it would be right now for a Democratic Party, if in the House they said, Hakeem, hit the brakes, buddy, we're stripping you.

9:31And in the Senate, they did it. And they actually governed with an accelerant the same way that Trump governs with an accelerant on him. And we started playing offense and we started controlling the news cycle because even Trump has said, I'm surprised at how little pushback I get from these people. He said that out loud. What do you think the impact that would have on the Democrats' abysmal polling numbers if they actually grew a pair? We would have prime FDR numbers. At FDR's peak, he had 80 % of the House and 80 % of the Senate, and he won four presidential elections before they put in term limits.

10:08This guy dominated the country, and Republicans were moving towards Democrats and trying to be more like Democrats because they thought, we're going to lose forever if we don't adjust and act more like FDR and support the New Deal and stuff like that. That's what we would be looking at if we had a Democratic Party that fought. But right now, their strategy is we're going to go hide in the corner and sit in the cuck chair and let Republicans destroy the country and then emerge and say, I guess maybe pick us. And look, don't don't get me wrong. We're going to win by doing that because the Republicans are so odious.

10:36But we're going to win by six points as opposed to winning by 28 points. And like, I want them to learn here and start fighting and actually do something for the American public. It would be phenomenal. I completely agree. I get so angry. Like, I see all the shit that Trump does. And then my mind goes to, okay, what are Chuck Schumer and Hakeem doing about it? Fucking nothing. And then my mind goes to, oh my God, Joe Biden, he fucked us. He fucked us so hard. He had one fucking job after the insurrection, one goddamn job. That guy should be in jail. And here we are again. So I started reading from a lot of scholars and scholars say that oftentimes liberals collaborate with fascists to keep the economic system of private equity and private interest intact.

11:20And that's what you see so many Democrats doing. And the fact that they're crowdsourcing, whether they should take APAC money or not, is pretty maddening. But here is, I didn't want to play the clip, so I'll read to you what it says. It's Jon Stewart, and he talks about an incredible false equivalency in American culture and Western media. Jon Stewart completely exposes U.S. hypocrisy. He points out how Washington screamed war crimes when Russia bombed Ukraine. But when Netanyahu slaughters thousands of civilians in Gaza, the U.S. just says, hey, guys, be cool. The double standard is sickening.

11:57Yeah, I mean, Russia is an official state enemy. So you're able to say whatever you want against them. You could even lie about how bad they are. But when it comes to Israel, they're an ally and we take a lot of money from the Israel lobby. And we also have some genuinely psychotic evangelical Christian religious Zionist. And that's why you have that double standard. But yeah, it's to the point where it's almost like it really is like suicidal at this point where I'm starting to believe, do they have Epstein blackmail on like 80 % of the people in Congress? Because it's humiliating at this late date to not stand up to them when they're like ushering in World War Three, and they're bombing elementary schools, and they're like doing every hideous crime you can imagine you know i'm with you on that because i think sometimes okay they have to have they have to be blackmailed why are they not standing up for this but i think that's a person you and me with conviction applying what we what would it would take us in that position to not have conviction conviction i think these politicians get so broken when they start taking money from these corrupt corporations and it breaks them and i mean probably there's you know Epstein blackmail footage and other footage on Trump, but like Hakeem and others.

13:07No, I just think they're pussies. I do. I think they just start taking money and it breaks them. And then they end up playing this pick me politics like Thirst Trap Newsome is doing. And I feel like if we don't have a democratic party that is a full blown opposition party, I really like what you said about the Republican party's done, but I thought that after George W. Bush, I thought they They were cooked forever. And George W. Bush incubated Trump. And us not dealing with the Abu Ghraib, the CIA black sites, the banking crisis, we just let it go. And that's the through line in all of this. Trump just didn't appear out of anywhere, is that we allow wealthy people to do bad shit and get away with it.

13:51And the most recent one is Joe Biden with January 6th. They never went after the Biden DOJ, never went after the people who funded January 6th. They went after the dipshits that were busted from the trailer park that committed the felonies. And you have Jack Smith said, like, if I was able to finish my job, for sure, Trump was going to prison. He said that recently. And I remember my heart sinking, like, oh, my God, we could have avoided all this. But to your point, we now need an absolute litmus test on the Democratic side. I don't want to hear from you if you're running for president. if you're not saying we are going to jail all of these disgusting degenerate criminals that are in the White House.

14:28I'm talking Stephen Miller. I'm talking Elon Musk. I'm talking Pam Bondi. I'm talking Donald Trump. I'm talking all of them. And of course, and I genuinely think that it is more likely than ever that we get sort of a Democratic renegade winner who comes out of nowhere because the politics, as usual, is not going to work here. And the biggest mistake Obama made was saying, we're going to look forward. We're not going to look backwards when it comes to prosecuting the Bush era criminals. And a Democrat, we cannot afford. If that same mistake is made, we genuinely no longer have a country. We basically elect an emperor for four or eight years, and then they get to do whatever the hell they want.

15:04We'll commit whatever crimes they want, go on a crime spree, if they so please, right? And then there's no accountability. So we need that. I think we're ripe for that though. So I'd be surprised if it wasn't somebody like a Graham Plattner, for example, who comes out of nowhere and ends up winning. somebody who like really is touching every so-called third rail that is not really a third rail but the establishment group thinkers are convinced as a third rail you're going to call what's what happened in gaza a genocide you're going to say this is a world war three you're going to say that there's epstein blackmail on trump and he was fucking 13 year olds katie johnson is one of them right you're going to have people saying these things they're going to be the ones who get ahead it's not going to be this milquetoast nonsense from gavin newsom or josh Shapiro or any of them.

15:44I completely agree. Okay. Now I just want to play a video for you of a senator from my home state. I refer to him as Senator Boosterbox because he is so vertically challenged. When he stands at a podium, he has to stand up on a big boy box so that they can see him over the podium. This is the same senator who is now replacing puppy killer, Kristi Noem, who we know it's a puppet job we all know steven miller runs dhs everybody knows who the daddy at dhs is and it's not mark wayne mullen but interestingly here is him talking about being a daddy to his daughter play the clip now you take lara for instance when she was a girl trying to spank her dale was like a four minute ordeal because she's like no daddy no daddy no daddy i'm sorry daddy i'm sorry and then she'd get madder and madder and she just couldn't bring herself to even bend over for me to ever bust her butt.

16:36And I was like, hon, you got like two seconds. Are you going to get two instead of one?

16:43How are we losing to these fucking people, Kyle? How, how, how do we lose to these fucking people? Pedocon theory is a theory like gravity is a theory at this point. There's a great video that I think it was Midas Touch put together like a couple of years ago. and it's basically all about pedo con theory. And they just go like one after the other, after the other, after you're like a dozen Republicans deep where it's like pedo, pedo, pedo, pedo, pedo. And at this point, it's like, they all have something weird going on with sex, whether it's the anti-gay guys that love gobbling cock in a New Jersey turnpike bathroom, or it's this guy talking about his daughter saying, daddy, daddy, don't spank me.

17:28And he's like, I'm gonna spank you. Like, what is this, man? I don't know. You have some phenomenal theories on this that you should share with everybody. Yeah. I just, I think that I grew up in Mark Wayne Mullen State and there's so much shame that kids, the number one thing they're taught is don't have sex until you're married. Like not be a good person, not don't lie, none of that shit. Because all you have to do is ask Jesus for it. It's a super like purity, abstinence culture. And in that just comes a lot of fuckery. A lot of people that are really messed up sexually and the entire MAGA movement, all of these MAGA men.

18:08I mean, for sure, I think there's just a lot of DL. I think there's probably a lot of bi-curious situation where these men are watching porn after their wife goes to bed. They see a penis. They get excited about it. Then they feel terrible. And then they terrorize the country. And I just think there's a whole Freudian dive into a lot of this. And I have so much empathy for anybody that feels like they need to be in the closet because of societal restrictions and judgment that comes from being gay or bisexual or whatever. But these people that browbeat gay people all day long, pass legislation to deny them equality and then fetishize it at night.

18:51I mean, that's just pretty disgusting, Lindsey Graham. And also, I seem to remember Madison Cawthorn back when he was a congressperson. Wasn't he running around his panties grabbing penis? Well, Madison Cawthorn was the one who came out and said that he was invited to basically like a congressional orgy. Another Republican invited him to like a congressional orgy. And he was like a little shocked by that. And so he said that and then they unleashed holy hell on him and released all of the oppo research that they had on him. And he was out of there by the next election. right and so i'm constantly reminded that when you look at the movie eyes wide shut with tom cruise yes that's a documentary that is not just a movie and you watch that thing and you go holy cow this is like this is how it really functions and um again with all that epstein blackmail there's a lot of people in in elite one percent circles who uh not only are they into gross shit they know other one percenters who are into disgusting shit and they all keep the secret like it's a frat or like it's a sorority and they do the most disgusting, gross things you can imagine.

19:55And then I always find it hilarious because, you know, me and Crystal, for example, we're flaming lefties, but we have the most fucking heteronormative relationship you've ever seen in your life. We're the classic like leave it to beaver with the fucking white picket fence and the three kids and all that stuff. And the people who like desperately cling to that ideal are the ones who have all sorts of hangups around sex that are just like hard to wrap your mind around. Yeah. Okay, one final question, just because I want your take on this. I think it's really fascinating. So you have this situation where Netanyahu is endorsing Orban, who is the puppet of Vladimir Putin.

20:33You have Netanyahu sent his son to Hungary. And I think it's fascinating that the American Republican Party looks to Hungary for inspiration. And the Democrats haven't exploited the messaging in that to say, we don't need to look to Hungary for inspiration. We can look to our founders. It'd be such a layup over flyover states to make that kind of patriotic argument. But it's fascinating that Netanyahu is passively aligning with Putin, who is helping the Iranians right now kill and target Americans. What's your cynical pragmatist take on that? I would say authoritarian solidarity is probably the big thing.

21:16And then the second thing is always follow the money. There's guaranteed to be something with the money. I mean, I'm sure you've seen everything with Trump and the market manipulation when it comes to the war. How like every Monday morning, all of a sudden, oh, the war is solved and everything's great and we're having phenomenal talks. And then every Friday, as soon as the market closes, it's like World War III, let's go blow up everything. And so there's always going to be some through line where it comes to, you know, payoffs and all sorts of corrupt schemes. And so that would be my takeaway.

21:43way. But Trump and NetYahu, they're like the quintessential authoritarians. So there is some sort of weird alliance that they've created with other authoritarian leaders. And I think it's time for the left to get serious about left-wing internationalism, where you can have a coalition of people like Lula in Brazil, for example, Claudia Scheinbaum in Mexico. All the left-wing leaders need to come together and band together and help each other in a way that right now only the right does. And they have that advantage. They have that class solidarity, that Epstein class solidarity where they're all one percenters and they all look out for each other and we need to you know have a similar sort of organizational structure but for the working class i love it all right kyle thank you so much for coming on thank you so much for having me i appreciate it uh-huh bye