In short
The hosts attack Pete Hegseth and MAGA evangelical leaders for “weaponizing” Christianity, claim Franklin Graham is lying about Trump’s Jesus-themed AI image, allege Trump retaliated by canceling Catholic charity funding for homeless children, and argue Turning Point USA is failing to draw crowds for J.D. Vance (including a “face plant” at the University of Georgia) while Fox News covers it up with misleading crowd footage.
Guest backgrounds
Jennifer Welch (self-described atheist; “team Leo,” praising Pope Leo). No other named guests appear.
Key claims
Hegseth is a dangerous, alcoholic, white supremacist who used a fake Pulp Fiction “Bible verse.” MAGA Christians are a “death cult” enabling war crimes and child harm. Turning Point blamed “left-wing swarming” for low turnout. Fox inflated Vance’s crowd size using other event footage.
Notable examples
Pope Leo post condemning manipulating religion for military gain; Franklin Graham’s denial about Trump depicting himself as Jesus; reported Trump funding cancellation for Catholic homeless-child charities; Vance event at University of Georgia drawing “tens” (about 20) with free tickets; Fox using mismatched crowd clips.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCritique of Military Religious Rhetoric
0:46 to 2:56
Exploring the troubling intersections of religion and military command in the U.S.
“all righteous gemstones saying, everybody pray with me now.”
Condemnation of MAGA Christians
2:57 to 5:03
An impassioned denunciation of MAGA Christians and their political motivations.
“I mean, I just, and we know exactly who he's talking about.”
Franklin Graham's Role in Political Manipulation
5:04 to 7:35
Analyzing Franklin Graham's influence within evangelical politics and his defense of Trump.
“for so many years, I look at Franklin Graham and I see him.”
J.D. Vance's Failed Appearance
7:36 to 10:35
Discussion on J.D. Vance's disappointing turnout at a recent event and its implications.
“Well, I mean, Jennifer, they're the party of life.”
Fox News' Coverage and Turning Point's Struggles
10:36 to 14:00
Examining how Fox News manages narratives around GOP figures and recent controversies.
“Well, you know what's interesting about the whole Turning Point USA thing?”
J.D. Vance's Public Image and the Trump Connection
14:00 to 15:00
An exploration of J.D. Vance's perceived inauthenticity and his political missteps.
“I found my way to be a Catholic book launch.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04All right, Pete Hegseth is a complete nut, a Christian nationalist, homicidal, genocidal nutjob that weaponizes the Bible and Christianity to justify committing war crimes and lying to the American. in public about it, play the clip. Which I think is meant to reflect Ezekiel 25, 17. So the prayer is CSAR 25, 17, and it reads, and pray with me, please. The path of the downed aviator is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the Okay, I've heard enough. I've heard enough. The secretary of defense going all megachurch pastor, all righteous gemstones saying, everybody pray with me now.
0:53And this comes on the foothills pumps of him near verbatim quoting Quentin Tarantino's 1994 film, Pulp Fiction. He got a fake Bible verse from the movie Pulp Fiction and quoted that. And so this is just insane. This is This is the guy and the government that says, oh my gosh, Iran, they're crazy religious fanatics. And I just played for you the video right here. Pray with me, everybody. He's disgusting. Here's the thing. He's a white supremacist. He's not smart. He is an untreated alcoholic by all accounts coming from the Pentagon. He is massively disrespected. The only reason he is in that job, in my opinion, is because if Trump says you need to use the U.S.
1:46military to turn against American citizens, to stop voting, protest, whatever it might be, he would say, yes, sir. Yes, sir. He is a fake. He is the worst of the worst. He's not even smart. It drives me crazy when he gets out there. I mean, he's a fucking netball. He's a religious fanatic. Like it's just awful. And in a really bizarre turn of events, this atheist, me, Jennifer Welch, I really love Pope Leo. Like I'm like, this guy is the walking, talking embodiment of, you know, Riley Gaines was like, we want to draw people to Christ. I'm like, bitch, please. You make me want to run as fast as I can away from that.
2:27Pope Leo in a not so thinly veiled post continues to go right after the diabolical, homicidal genocidal war crimes of the United States government pop this up. Woe to those who manipulate religion in the very name of God for their own military, economic, and political gain, dragging that which is sacred into darkness and filth. The and filth? I mean, my God. I mean, I just, and we know exactly who he's talking about. He's talking about MAGA Christians. And I have said now for two years on this podcast, we have to call out these MAGA Christians. They are dangerous. They are in a death cult. They are radical.
3:15They oppose anything about freedom, universal human rights. They're fine with dismantling everything good about this country, all for the sake of owning the libs. And to juxtapose Pope Leo's message here, here we have the right-wing evangelical leader Franklin Graham in a very long, diluted post, but I'm going to read one paragraph. He says, I do not believe President Trump would knowingly depict himself as Jesus Christ. That would certainly be inappropriate. I'm thankful the president has made it very clear that this was not at all what he thought the AI generated image was representing. He thought it was a doctor helping someone.
3:58And when he learned of the concerns, he immediately removed the post. There has never been a more staggering display of stupidity and the willful ability to shut down your part of the brain that critically thinks than white, evangelical, MAGA Christians, led here by Franklin Graham, who is a dipshit beyond all comprehension, who does exactly what Pope Leo here was talking about and speaking out against. Weaponizing your religion to commit war crimes or to game the system economically is the grossest, the worst, the most ultimate sin. This atheist, I am team Leo. Franklin Graham and the MAGA Christians hit the bricks.
4:48You deplorable, deplorable trash. It is utter trash to peddle the snake oil and these lies. And then they grift on top of it. They all the grifting on top. That's just disgusting. You know, having been the person that shut down critical thinking because of indoctrination for so many years, I look at Franklin Graham and I see him. I don't see him as someone who just was indoctrinated and didn't know better. He is now at the head of the snake, the grifting, the making Trump part of this, you know, being this idol that everybody has to follow him. He is absolutely an embarrassment to everything that MAGA Christians say they believe in.
5:32But he is exactly what their actions reveal that they believe in. Put that back up, Kylie, the Franklin Graham. Here's where you just know he's a fucking liar. I do not believe President Trump would knowingly depict himself as Jesus Christ. Bitch, please. Are you kidding? He could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and his supporters would still support him. And you are one of those people. You would be fine with him committing murder. Of course he thinks he's Jesus Christ. He says, I alone can fix this. That is the demagoguery that you guys worship because you've made this white, capitalist, homicidal version of Jesus.
6:12And you've thrown away all of the parts that Pope Leo, my new favorite Christian, is talking about. And so put this up. Here is Trump, what he's done in his tit for tat with Pope Leo. No lie, Brian Tyler Cohen has some reporting that Trump has suddenly canceled funding for Catholic charities that support homeless children amid his feud with the Pope. He is a petty party of one. Your table is now available. He doesn't care who he throws under the bus. And it is such bullshit. All of these MAGA Republicans, all of these MAGA Christians, they are the party of child sexual abuse, of child pedophilia in a huge reverse plot.
6:57Used to be the Catholics. Now it's the MAGA Christians and they are for torturing and starving children so that Donald Trump can own the Pope because the Pope is woke. It's just, we live in the dumbest of times and the dumbest of timelines. And I just have to say that I did not have on my bingo card in 2026, that I would be rah, rah, sis, boom, bah, Pope, and that I would be reporting that The Catholic Church now opposes pedophilia and the MAGA evangelical Christians, Franklin Graham, are defenders and enablers and liars and cover uppers of child pedophilia. It is quite the plot twist, to say the least.
7:38Well, I mean, Jennifer, they're the party of life. They love children. How could you be so ugly? I mean, they don't give a shit if you throw them under the bus and they starve to death, don't have health care, don't have dental care, don't have child care. They don't give a fuck, these MAGA Christians, as long as they can own the libs and tell everybody what to do in their bedrooms. All right. And then moving along, this is rather delicious. So Turning Point is making excuses for J.D. Vance's face plant where he was left at the altar by none other than Erica Kirk. And so he shows up to the University of Georgia, huge arena.
8:16And as we reported, there were tens of people there. I mean, probably 20 tops and the tickets were free, free of charge. And they only got about 20 people to show up. And so Turning Point is now floating conspiracy reasons for why no one showed up. And here is a video of Turning Point response to failed drag queen J.D. Vance's face plant at the University of Georgia. Play the clip. So we had over 2000 people there, massive, massive energy, great, great enthusiasm from the attendees. But the, and this happens, the left wing groups swarm the ticketing and they try and book up all the tickets and they don't show.
9:00And that's one of their, their forms of protest. Normally we're pretty good at sniffing it out, but they use some new means and activities. And so we're working with our ticketing systems to adjust for that moving forward. Yeah. But yeah, it was a, it was a eventful night. Yeah. So this is what they do. You know, every accusation is a confession. And so this is the thing that Turning Point is going to have to come to terms with. Charlie Kirk getting shot and murdered is awful, is horrible. That should not happen in the United States of America. Yet the people who genuinely oppose gun violence are not you.
9:42He died advocating for gun violence. Like his last words were defending what killed him. And then y 'all roll out this WWE batshit crazy funeral and you shot your wad. I mean, you just, you misread the thing and then you're trotting around Erica Kirk and there is not a normal person on the planet that goes, Hmm, poor Erica, you know, everybody grieves in their own way. It's weird shit. It is the weirdest shit on the planet. And I want to thank you for doing it because you are driving young people back to the left. They are abandoning Donald Trump in mass, mass numbers. So keep up the good work.
10:22Keep trotting out J.D. Vance. I want everybody, every Republican on the ticket in the midterms campaign with J.D. Vance. I think we should push this motherfucker out front and center on everything because all he does is lose, lose, lose. Well, you know what's interesting about the whole Turning Point USA thing? An organization that is notoriously misogynistic and sexist rolls out a woman and nobody can figure out why their numbers are dying. It's like the people that you've cultivated don't want to see a woman in power. I mean, it's staggering to me, all these people surrounding, plus the grift.
11:03I From what I'm reading, the grift has really dropped. And I just want to say, if you think that Democrats are rolling around trying to book free tickets to Erica Kirk's Turning Point USA, you just have nothing better to do than sit around and be stupid. Listen, in a pinch, I would do it. I really would. I would do it. I would have the best. I would go protest. I would say, okay, everybody, here's what we're going to do. Everybody get their laptops. Let's everybody reserved like 25 tickets. Let's own the fascist. Let's drink fascist tears tonight. I would never think to do that. But now that he's brought it to my attention, I'm like, I'm in.
11:42That's what I do. I like to fuck with Republicans. Okay. Moving along. Fox News is really struggling with how to cover this, you know, because they are state sponsored propaganda TV. And so here's a video of the real JD Vance face plant crowd size. That was an alleged democratic ambush. So you see all the, see, it's like tens of people. There is empty, empty, empty, empty. And this is why I believe Erica Kirk didn't show up. She used that it was a security issue, not buying it. If the sitting vice president of the United States is in there, sorry, the secret services security protocol is going to supersede that of the people who thought it was a great idea to have a funeral with fireworks.
12:26Okay. So I'm just to leave that there. So Fox News is running cover for J.D. Vance, as they have to do, and they're playing footage of crowds from a different event to make J.D. Vance's crowd look bigger than what it was. That's how bad it is for MAGA Republicans right now. Play the clip. That happened with Charlie, obviously his assassination. We're still, you know, grieving that and you saw what happened with savannah hernandez one of our tpsa frontlines reporters in minneapolis and to see the security team you know tell us we cannot guarantee your safety we recommend that you don't do this yeah yeah that's i'm not buying i'm not buying the security team said that what i'm thinking is erica kirk saw the parking lot she was like fuck no i'm leaving that motherfucker at the altar.
13:22He just went and fucked us in Hungary, which we now know, uh, uh, Hungarian taxpayers have been footing the bill for all of this CPAC shit. And she sees that the ship is sinking. How low do you have to be to get stood up by Erica Kirk? It's got to be, it's got to hurt your manhood. I would think, I mean, that is like being dumped by the ugliest guy in school. Not to mention, Pumps, my favorite Christian, Pope Leo. I think he's just trolling the shit out of J.D. Vance right at the time of J.D. Vance's, I found my way to be a Catholic book launch. This shit is so delicious. I think I'm going to buy a popcorn machine here for the studio.
14:06Well, here's the thing. J.D. Vance is so fake. I mean, we've talked about the Methodist church, whatever, but he's trying to lecture the Pope on morality. It's like, dude, shut up. Sometimes it's just better if you shut up and then him going out on the turning point stage. Thank you for being here. It's like, bitch, there's only like a hundred people. Stop. I think a hundred is generous. I would push back on the hundred. Yeah. Yeah. I think we have probably crew down there trying to fill in. I'm surprised that that J.D. Vance continued with it. But I have this theory that the Trump regime is rat-fucking him as every single chance they can get that they are sending him on the faceplant tour right now.
14:50And I think in a week or two, he's going to do it to little Marco. I think that's just how petty... Yeah, it's Marco's time's coming. Yeah, yeah. And I'm here for all of it. I love it. I love all of it. All right, that's all we have. Like and subscribe. And we'll be back later with more news.
15:08Thank you.
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