In short
A federal judge orders the Trump administration to halt a $400 million White House ballroom, saying it can’t proceed without Congress approval. The episode also discusses alleged design flaws flagged by the New York Times (fake windows hiding bathroom stalls, oversized columns/portico blocking views, and a staircase “to nowhere”), claims about a “massive” military complex underneath, and Trump being booed at the Kennedy Center.
Guests
Jack Cacciarella (a federal judge; co-host).
Key claims
Trump is obsessed with architecture as legacy-building; the administration is hiding details about the underground facility; press secretary Caroline Levitt is involved in image control (an unflattering photo reportedly scrubbed).
Notable examples
NYT analysis of the ballroom; Trump’s live reactions to the ruling; Kennedy Center boos; CPAC attendee Matt Schlapp’s past alleged sexual misconduct.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOJudge Halts Trump's Ballroom Construction
0:45 to 2:15
Discussion on the federal judge's decision to halt the ballroom project.
“And we love some marble and it's going to have my face on it.”
Trump's Meltdown and Legacy
2:15 to 5:08
Exploration of Trump's reaction and his desire for a lasting legacy.
“I'll have Kylie find that and we'll play it here in a second.”
Booing at the Kennedy Center
5:08 to 7:25
Insights on Trump's experience at the Kennedy Center and public reactions.
“But he recently revealed that there's going to be like a hospital and all of this stuff under there.”
Problems with the Ballroom Design
7:25 to 10:57
Analysis of the design issues reported by various architects and media.
“But you have to accept it, take the L and move on down the road.”
Military Facility Underneath the Ballroom
10:57 to 14:01
Speculation about the military facility beneath the ballroom and implications.
“And they don't want to think about the real world impact of the actual people they hurt.”
Critique of Nihilism and Hypocrisy
14:01 to 14:29
Explore the contradictory behaviors of certain political figures and groups.
“And there's always just pick up the rug, sweep it under and roll it down.”
Introduction of Jack Cacciarella and Collaboration Plans
14:29 to 15:26
Jack joins the discussion to collaborate on political commentary and reputational damage.
“Jack, thank you so much for joining me to hit these very hard hitting topics.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04All right, everybody knows that Donald Trump really isn't particularly interested in policy as much as he is his interior design and architecture projects. And here to discuss this with me today is my BFF, Jack Cacciarella. Jack, a federal judge, Kylie, pop this up. A federal judge has ordered the Trump administration to halt construction of a $400 million White House ballroom, ruling the project cannot move forward unless Congress approves it. Needless to say, Trump is devastated and throwing feces all over Lysosal. Jack. He was melting down in the Oval Office yesterday. One of the funnier ways I've seen in a while, because he was reading the judge's ruling and he was live reacting to it, which just goes to show how much she knows about any of what's happening with the project besides, you know, well, quite frankly, it's going to be great.
1:04And we love some marble and it's going to have my face on it. And I don't think that he knows any of the intricacies, which is weird, because it seems to be the only thing that he cares about. But it's funny that Donald Trump moved from complaining about one way that he is trying to physically manifest a legacy for himself, because that is what this is. Sure, Donald Trump likes taking money from billionaires and corporations trying to buy influence, which is partly the reason for the project. But it's also because he wants to leave some lasting legacy that he can see and have people celebrate him for before he dies, because he knows what's going to happen when he dies.
1:40Every memorial to Donald Trump will just become a public bathroom. But he traveled from complaining about the ballroom to then deciding he's going to the Trump Kennedy Center. I just I can't even believe I said that. But last night, did you see that he got booed at the Kennedy Center? Like the other version of a thing that he's trying to make for himself is also falling apart. There is no set in stone Trump memorial that he can build that will remove what is actually set in stone, which is how much fucking people hate him and will continue to while he's alive and while he's gone. But you didn't see this.
2:15He just got booed. It was pretty good. It was a great close to the day. I'll have Kylie find that and we'll play it here in a second. So speaking of set in stone, a lot of architects have been reviewing the plans for the ballroom. And it turns out we've got a lot of problems here. Pop this up. Play the video of Nicole Wallace breaking it down. Someone's feeling a little defensive about his not-so-pretty ballroom. Donald Trump's showing reporters some design changes last night and telling the reporters the project is, quote, ahead of schedule and under budget, end quote. Trump also saying, quote, A lot of people are giving it really good reviews, end quote.
2:57Trump then revealed to reporters that the United States military is building a, quote, massive complex under the new ballroom. Of course, one display came after an embarrassing bit of reporting in The New York Times. It poked some holes in his$400 million project. New York Times analysis flagged a number of issues, including fake windows on the north-facing wall to conceal a row of bathroom stalls and oversized portico and columns that will block views from the inside. And of course, a staircase that leads to nowhere. That's right. A grand staircase to nowhere. New York Times founds that it leads to nothing.
3:41Emblematic, emblematic of the Trump presidency, the staircase to nothing. Watching him on Air Force One, do it like a literal Looney Tunes style display of like images getting bigger and bigger over time. And it really is so representative of his presidency, and especially this like out of touch current moment, where you have reporters trying to interrupt Trump and say, Okay, well, we still have questions about the illegal war that you started on behalf of Israel in the Epstein class. And he's like, well, no, real quick, we just we got to finish talking about the ballroom. And he did seven fucking minutes on it.
4:17He did seven minutes of increasingly larger images as the press was just like, can we talk about your war? And he actually said, you know, I just don't get time to talk about this. Like he was complaining that they haven't given him ample opportunity to rant about the ballroom. I just – I don't know how someone can be so obsessed with the thing but also it be so shitty and him not know about it. I also find it very strange that Carolyn Levitt wouldn't answer any questions about the military facility underneath. And then this is a supposed project that's being all funded by outside money and now the military is doing something underneath it.
4:54So that can't be outside money. everything that they've said is obviously always bullshit but especially in this example we're seeing more lies pop up and and a lot of people thought that it was a conspiracy anyone floating that there might be something underneath the ballroom now we know what it is do you have any guesses what this might be is it where they're putting the epstein files like i don't know i i read that he said because you know he's in he's entering his deathbed confession yeah i heard you say that recently yeah you know he's talking about i like to hang out with losers i think we're a couple of news cycles away from finding out the true identity of Bubba, whom we know via the Epstein files that he sucked off.
5:34But he recently revealed that there's going to be like a hospital and all of this stuff under there. I think this guy, you know, the most traumatizing life event that he's ever experienced was losing to Joe Biden. He incited an insurrection. So I think in his mind, autocrats, they don't have succession plans. I mean, I just think in his mind, it's like, I'm just going to build this ballroom and I'm just going to live there forever. Yeah. And clearly everyone in the White House wants to protect Donald Trump's vision of the retirement home ballroom. And by not telling us anything about it, you saw Carolyn Levitt earlier in the week asked what the fuck is going on with the secret military facility.
6:17She didn't want anyone else to know. It's not the only thing that Carolyn Levitt wanted scrubbed from the minds of reporters. Jen, I got really excited when I sent you an image yesterday. It's the reason that we're doing this video. It's an unpleasant, to say the least, shot of Carolyn Levitt. I really just can't wait for your reaction. Okay, Kylie, pop this up. Ari Cohen says, the picture that Press Secretary Caroline Levitt does not want you to see. And so there she is with her child. And it's, you know, it's a picture taken from below. Yeah, never great. And she has a stage five meltdown and Natalie Korak post after the White House complained about an unflattering photo of Caroline Leavitt.
7:00It was scrubbed from AFP and Giddy's systems. Another episode in image control from the press secretary. Okay. The thin skin nature of these MAGA people is just something that I cannot even remotely handle. I'm online every day. I mean, there are some days where I just don't look as great as I have other days. You just have to accept it. Thank you. Thank you, Jack. But you have to accept it, take the L and move on down the road. These people are only interested in the very, very thin veneer because behind that veneer is nothing they are fucking nihilist to their core they believe in absolutely nothing i love this image of caroline um and i hope that we can keep it alive yeah you go into it jack well i i think that it reminds me of was it vanity fair that did the that did the piece when they were taking all the photos that went so viral of like the close-ups and they made them look as shitty as they are.
8:04Yeah. Yeah. And, and it just kind of like got at what you're saying, how hollow that these people are, how empty they are. And it's kind of funny, you know, anyone, if you would like to add a little something here or fill something there, maybe do a little flip up there, pop a little, you know, whatever you want to do to live your fullest you and look good. I'm fully on board comma. But if you are a fascist, fuck you. And we're going to make fun of your bad work if it's bad work. And Carolyn is all focused on the looking, the camera looking face. And so to capture her from underneath and like right next to like, obviously a little turkey with the waddle that was on Thanksgiving.
8:40It's just pretty funny to be like, Carolyn, you can't hide. Like when we get the right angle from you and that's what it was communicating. It's not just a photo. These are photojournalists. They know what they're communicating from underneath. We are seeing a side of you that you hate because you can't hide because you can't add or take away or you can't, know mar-a-lago your face out of this one which god that mar-a-lago face is just like a marriage it's bad i don't know you can be 28 and trying to be a cougar um and yeah i guess if your husband is what is he like 68 something yeah he's in those vanity fair photographs she had like her lip filler injections you could see the photographer i mean did not he just he took the image hunkered down on it and then popped that up and it was so humiliating for all of them because you know, they live in this bubble and in the White House where you have Elon Musk and all of these oligarchs that amplify their messaging.
9:34And so they operate on a false premise that they're super popular. And the fact of the matter is they're only popular with the base. And I think that Trump's approval rating now is down to around 31%. So 31 % of the electorate is 100 % for this. the rest of us fucking hate these people like hate these people with everything in us and think they're weird you know yeah they are and you talk about like elon boosting them or like them going to socials but it's like let's think about what the white house is always posting like clips from video games or you know clips from tv shows or movies taken out of context there is nothing more conservative than not understanding art they'll like watch star wars and be like oh you know Luke Skywalker was a Republican.
10:21It's like, fuck you, you idiot. What are you talking about? They're stormtroopers. Are you dumb? Like, are you actually, it's the Republic. What are you talking about? So they don't understand art. And so they're posting all these movie clips and they're posting all this stuff from TV because they have a television president who is also not in a world of reality. Like Donald Trump's not a good businessman. He bankrupted a casino. Last time I went to the casino, I lost like$500 playing blackjack. That's a great business model. But Donald Trump is not a good businessman. He played one on TV. And all of these people love TV or the idea of what they are in TV and how their lives are like TV because they're not real.
11:00And they don't want to think about the real world impact of the actual people they hurt. They just want to present themselves as characters and live a fantasy because if they were actually in the real world, they'd wake up to, like you said, how everyone fucking hates them. And so they are just so detached. Donald Trump is because he's like, he's got Alzheimer's, but Stephen Miller is because he thinks he's some fucking conquering hero. And he's not, he's just not. Now they really suck. Kylie, did you find our video of the Kennedy center last night? Let's play that.
11:46So you get a both. You get a little bit of both. You get a little cheer, you get a little boo. And that's why I found it so interesting last night, because let's think about all of the public events that Donald Trump could have gone to in the past, let's call it like month. All right. So there's about two. It was CPAC. It was the Super Bowl. Canceled on both. Why? Booze. Donald Trump didn't go to the Super Bowl because he knew it was going to happen. He's going to get booed. And he didn't go to CPAC, a conservative conference, right? And we talked about this because he's going to get booed. They asked on stage, who's excited for impeachment, hoping that he'd be like, oh, no, the libs, blah.
12:19And they were cheering. And that's what Donald Trump's administration is, even to the people going to conservative conferences. And so the fact that they only take him to public settings in which they think that everything will be fine, like he's out at Mar-a-Lago because you're like scanned for your political identity by the time you show up at the door. And it's also kind of a self-selecting group of the worst people in the world. But the fact that they took him there, thinking it would all be fine, only to still hear some boos, a lot of cheers from the sycophants, because I think it was kind of like a selected group.
12:49But even under their perfect conditions, Donald Trump is still getting booed. He talks about how he's got 100 % approval in the party. Not true at all. I know they're cultists, but at least some of them are starting to break away in some way. It's not because they're upset about children dying. It's gas, and that's kind of unfortunate for the future of the country. But even in the best location possible, he's still getting booed. And I just before we close out here, I want to say that the person at CPAC who asked who wants Donald Trump to get impeached and they all started cheering. He was like, no, wrong answer.
13:21His name is Matt Schlapp. And Matt Schlapp at a previous CPAC convention was grabbing the genitals of the fellow attendees of CPAC, his fellow conservatives, his fellow MAGA, and very credible allegations of sexual assault. And so the through line here with MAGA is if your husband likes to cross-dress, which I don't care if he does, he likes to put on big titties. That's not, I don't give a shit. Be open about it. Love your big titties. Right. But the sexual assault, sexual kinks, all of these things happen all of the time. And there's always just pick up the rug, sweep it under and roll it down.
14:05These people are nihilist, hypocrites to their core. And I just have to say the louder the Christian and CPAC was full blown evangelical megachurch shit show, Erica Kirk style, just debauchery. and these people, the loudest are always the kinkiest. It always turns out that way. All right, Jack, thank you so much for joining me to hit these very hard hitting topics. Can I say that I wasn't late this time? Can I bring that up? Listener, he was like a couple of minutes early. I was not early. Don't give me credit. I came exactly at the time what you were supposed to record but last time I um I did not so I've become better I've improved in my skills of showing up on time I know I'm 23 years old you've got this 23 years old and on time for the show go follow uh Jack Cacciarella on YouTube and all of the other places come hang out we're gonna start we're gonna keep collabing we need to take a break from all of the fuckery and just we need to do um Jack I think our job is to do reputational damage to these politicians and their brand.
15:17Yeah, no. And I think we got to do some Democrats next time, too, because some people have pissed me off. Andy Beshear, we'll talk about you next time. I agree. I've had it with him. All right. We'll be back later.
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