In short
The episode argues that Karoline Leavitt’s comments about Gen Z and “silver spoons” are hypocritical, and it expands into a broader critique of Trumpism, Elon Musk, and the “taker vs maker” narrative, claiming systemic failures enable propaganda and undermine meritocracy.
Guests
The host is Jesse Waters (clip referenced). Other named voices: Mehdi Hassan (commentary: “a taker, you say”); Evan Loves Wharf (reports on DOGE/cost-cutting and deaths); “Zoran Mamdani” is discussed as a rising Democratic figure.
Key claims
Leavitt is accused of lying about meritocracy while benefiting from elite connections and unpaid campaign/work claims; Trump and Musk are framed as inherited/contract-funded “takers” rather than makers; Musk is called an immigrant parasite reliant on government funding.
Notable examples
Trump inheriting $250M+ and bankrupting businesses; Trump kids trading stock via insider info; DOGE ending July 4 and ending pediatric cancer research; Musk’s alleged $38B in government funding; Zoran Mamdani’s anti-status-quo speech and lack of corporate donations.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Gen Z Hypocrisy
0:10 to 3:38
A critical exploration of Gen Z's complaints about job markets and economy.
“These kids, and I call them kids because they're in their 20s and they've never had real jobs and they're complaining things are expensive.”
Critique of Caroline Levitt
3:38 to 6:18
An analysis of Caroline Levitt's statements and her background.
“So Elon Musk was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, allegedly came to the United States illegally.”
Elon Musk's Financial Controversies
6:18 to 8:29
Discussion on Elon Musk's wealth, government funding, and public perception.
“aid programs, keeping millions alive, and has already caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.”
The Systemic Failures in Politics
8:29 to 11:16
Examining systemic issues within the political system and their implications.
“running anything larger than a plumbing company.”
The Rise of Progressives
11:16 to 14:00
Discussion on the emergence of progressive voices in politics and their impact.
“I think they don't want it to get better though.”
Capitalism and Wealth Inequality Discussion
14:00 to 15:49
Explore the implications of capitalism and the reactions to wealth inequality in America.
“And if the capitalists in our country really genuinely cared about capitalism, they would continue to do the same, deliver for workers and to protect that system.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05Angie Sullivan:Karoline Leavitt's maternity leave unfortunately has ended way too soon. And here she is talking to Jesse Waters about Gen Z and the hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness is so rich. Play the clip. These kids, and I call them kids because they're in their 20s and they've never had real jobs and they're complaining things are expensive. Yes, things are expensive when you don't have a real job. Right. Do you think that's getting traction, complaining? Unfortunately, I do, because this generation, my generation, I hate to say it, Gen Z and those younger than me have been raised with just silver spoons in their mouths, just getting everything handed to them.
0:42That's not the values this country was built on. It was built on meritocracy and hard work, pulling up your sleeves, pulling yourself up from your bootstraps and achieving the American dream. And we need to protect. Okay.
0:54Angie Sullivan:This is a woman who is married to a 60 year old rich guy. So if she wants to talk about putting things in her mouth to advance forward, let's have that conversation, Caroline. Let's talk about what you put in your mouth compared to what hardworking Americans put in their mouth to get the positions where they are. That's first and foremost. Secondly, I think it's incredibly important to talk about the fact that she is completely bald-faced lying in a propagandic sense and gaslighting the public about silver spoons. Donald Trump inherited half of$500 million, completely bankrupted it multiple, multiple, multiple times.
1:39Angie Sullivan:He would be in prison right now, if not for the lack of us always capitulating to right-wing narratives and always capitulating to this patriarchal system that white men shouldn't be held fully accountable because what's that going to do to the electorate? So we have, a lot of us have incubated this situation. Then you get to his kids, dumb and dumber, which there is a video of Trump saying, you know, my kids are able to trade stock now because they have all this insider information. So there's no meritocracy with Demand Demmer. There's no meritocracy with Caroline Levitt. Caroline Levitt just knows how to suck the chrome off the tailpipe.
2:23Angie Sullivan:And then she has ascended to be in this position. These people lecturing us about hard work and bootstraps is just late stage Versailles stuff. That's where we are in this phase of this fascist takeover. Not to mention Caroline Levitt, who ran for Congress twice, has left the vendors and there are hundreds of thousands of dollars for her campaign that she's never paid back. So don't talk to me about what it takes in bootstraps and working when you have left all the people that you hired to do work for you unpaid, just like Donald Trump has never paid so many people in his life. When they did work, he took them to court.
3:12He just ran them out of money. This, the person that works for these, you know, want to be rich people, they're the ones that get fucked, just like the working class electorate under the Trump administration. All right.
3:26Angie Sullivan:And then this whole government, the whole entire executive branch, the cabinet, are full of submissive men with no backbone or women that carry the water for the patriarchy. All right. So Elon Musk was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, allegedly came to the United States illegally. And this is before I even get to the fact that Melania Trump also ascended to being First Lady, similarly than the way Caroline Levitt did. But back to Musk, he goes on and on about, you know, the government and how terrible it is and how immigrants are awful. And the irony listener is he is an immigrant that takes government money to the tune of$38 billion.
4:22Angie Sullivan:Pop this up. Elon Musk's business empire is built on$38 billion in government funding. And Mehdi Hassan says, a taker, you say. And what this is in response to is he, everybody's mad at Zoran because Zoran gave a very American speech about actual bootstraps, about actual criticism, about the actual First Amendment, about critical thinking. And I don't like this parts of the country, and I don't like this parts, and let's embrace diversity. And this is very triggering for mediocre white men like Elon Musk. So he called Zoran a taker and not a maker. And Elon's assumption there is that he's this big maker.
5:07Angie Sullivan:There is not a bigger taker on the planet than Elon Musk. He takes eggs from random women on Twitter because he can't have a traditional marriage because he's too weird. Nobody would want to marry him. And he takes all of this money in government contracts. And he just, this guy is a parasite of the highest order. Now he's all sucked up to the stock market. There's these weird rules about you have to invest in SpaceX, and I don't understand all the minutiae in it. But this guy is the most parasitic immigrant this country has ever allowed citizenship for. And Evan Loves Wharf, who on Twitter follows Elon exclusively and really gives us some great reporting, has some good analysis on this, pop this up.
5:55Angie Sullivan:The cost, okay, Doge has officially ended on July 4th as agencies pushed to hire jobs lost under Elon Musk. Trump administration's cost-cutting effort goes out with a whimper after upending lives of thousands of federal employees. And Evan responds, cost was$11 billion, ended pediatric cancer research, destroyed U.S. aid programs, keeping millions alive, and has already caused hundreds of thousands of deaths. One of the biggest and most evil failures of Trump and Elon Musk in particular. So the Caroline Levitt's and the MAGA of it all propagandized to a white electorate. They Christian signal.
6:41Angie Sullivan:They talk about bootstraps. They talk about hard work. None of these people know what that is. Caroline Levitt, and I'm just going to be really frank here, has fucked her way to the top, which I'm not knocking it, but don't get there and then act like you're such a bootstrap gal. I mean, it's just unbelievable. And the same with Elon Musk. Don't take all of these government subsidies, a lot of them from Barack Obama's administration. Don't take the citizenship when you were an immigrant and then get there and then criticize everybody else after you. You're not the special person, the only person that's allowed these things.
7:20Angie Sullivan:But I think what bothers me most is remove Musk, his personality, remove Caroline Levert, remove Trump. It's the system. There's systemic failures here that have incubated and created this. These are just the caricatures that are easy to hate, but the system still remains. And that's why I think you see Zoran Mamdani rising up as the face of the Democratic Party, because he's speaking anti-status quo. He's speaking about the system that incubated these lies and this propaganda that people like to tell themselves about American exceptionalism. When really, like if Trump in this administration is American exceptionalism, there's a living, breathing example of it's just absolute American failure.
8:09Angie Sullivan:Nobody in Trump's administration would you ever let like babysit your kid. Like that's how low the bar is with how morally depraved these people are. Well, and you look at his cabinet, if you just go around and look for meritocracy in his cabinet, the people who are running agencies, Mark Wayne Mullen, he has zero experience running anything larger than a plumbing company. Kristi Noem, same thing, zero experience. What? I'm going to say something. I do think that Mark Wayne Mullen was a United States Senator and he ran a business. And I think any sort of, I don't think that, I can't stand Mark Wayne Mullen and I can't stand Christy.
8:53Angie Sullivan:No, but she was a governor. She had an executive position. We're going to have Democrats that come up that have, and Zoran Mamdani didn't have a whole lot of experience beforehand. hand, you're going to have people in these positions that were maybe working class people or had some political experience. Barack Obama, for example, he didn't have hardly any executive experience at all, and he became president. So I completely agree that the thing is, these people have ascended because they believe in Donald Trump first and foremost. Like Barack Obama had principles. Zora Mamdani had principles. Neither one had a lot of experience.
9:36Angie Sullivan:So even on the Democratic side, we have politicians without a whole lot of experience that are able to ascend to high positions. It is unique to this cabinet that they are only loyal to what Donald Trump's impulses are. Well, and they were chosen based on their headshots and their ability to go on TV and propagandize. You think I'm kidding? No, I know. It's true. That's why I'm laughing. On headshot. But these people do not have experience running budgets and going in and surrounding themselves by experts. The difference between Barack Obama, who didn't have a whole lot of experience, he surrounded himself by experts in the field when it came to economy, economists, financial gurus.
10:33These people do not surround themselves with experience because the only job qualification is I will wad up the Constitution and do whatever the fuck you tell me. That's why they're in these positions. And so now we're seeing all this anger and failure. And I thought Zoran's speech was absolutely like, I got the tingles. I got the chills. It made me so happy to see somebody saying that because of the whitewashing that's going on. And we can't talk about how the bad things that the United States has done previously and now because it hurts people's feelings. How are we ever going to get better?
11:14If we deny it, how are we ever going to get better?
11:18Angie Sullivan:I think they don't want it to get better though. I mean, that's a whole part of the propaganda. They want to, this is the way propaganda works. They keep feeding it and feeding it. And then when somebody speaks something factual and intellectual and critically thinking like Zoran, it's a stage five meltdown because he represents everything that they fear. Now, if you look at Zoran Mamdani and Elon Musk, Elon Musk, immigrant, government contracts, huge taker, huge parasite. Zoran Mamdani, immigrant, community organizer, worked his way up in city government, ran for mayor, didn't take corporate donations, didn't win the easy way, won the hardest way imaginable.
12:04Angie Sullivan:He is an antidote to everything that these people are incapable of doing. Elon Musk couldn't put his name on a ballot and run without taking, you know, funding his own campaigns or taking a bunch of corporate PAC money and getting people to go knock doors for him. Who's going to go knock a door for Elon Musk? He just has an imaginary bot form on Twitter that prop him up. The difference is Elon Musk is white presenting and Zoran Mamdani has a weird name for American standards. I think it's a cool name, but a lot of white people would think, what Zoran Mamdani, what kind of fucked up name is that?
12:38Angie Sullivan:He sounds like he's foreign and he's Muslim. And we've been propagandized to think that Muslims are all terrorists. And that is a huge problem, the antidote that he offers. Combine that with other rising up progressives that have some melanin in their skin or maybe not a traditional Anglo-Saxon style last name, or maybe aren't Christian or religious, or maybe they're Muslim. It's a real fear because that's why you hear underneath all of this on Twitter and with all of the talks, you hear about the great replacement theory all of the time because they're very scared of this new Gen Z push of Americans.
13:19Angie Sullivan:Zoran is an American and a lot of these other DSA members are Americans and they are going to try to disqualify them and say they don't have experience. They're going to try to disqualify them and say they're not American enough. They're going to say that they're radical jihadist Sharia law, nut jobs and all of this stuff. But at the end of the day, these people are talking about delivering materially for the American public. And the last time we had a very far left president was FDR. And he was so wildly popular. He delivered materially. And FDR wasn't a socialist. He did all of the social safety net things that he did because he wanted to protect capitalism.
14:04Angie Sullivan:And if the capitalists in our country really genuinely cared about capitalism, they would continue to do the same, deliver for workers and to protect that system. But something happens in capitalism where wealth inequality just gets so bad that now you see this swing towards the DSA because the status quo is not delivering at all. And the propaganda just works so well on the white population because it's getting its claws into decades of white grievances, which are imaginary. But it's white people in America think the whole country is curated just for them. And when somebody else gets a job that they think a white person should hold, then it's a problem.
14:52Angie Sullivan:And this has been a problem in sports. You see this with, you know, the NBA has gone through racism, football. White people have a real problem when people of color get these really high positions. And that's the problem with Zoran. And that's why I think we have to be cautious about the experience thing. Because there's been a lot of really good leaders who have ascended early in their careers that didn't have a lot of experience. but they, like Pump says, surround themselves with experts and assemble great teams. Trump and all, I mean, look at Marco Rubio. He has all the experience in the world and he still face plants all over the place because he has assembled a team of sycophants that want to help him plunder the United States for all of their own personal use.
15:46Angie Sullivan:Truly a parasitic cabinet. All right. That's all we have. Like, subscribe, comment. And we'll be back later with more news.
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