MAGA Civil War Gets Petty, MAGA Influencers Start Outing Each Other?

16 Apr 2026 · 17 min · 6 chapters

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In short

MAGA infighting and “receipts” between right-wing influencers, centered on Ashley St. Clair attacking Benny Johnson after a custody-related video about Elon Musk. The episode also broadens into claims that Christian nationalism is hypocritical and that MAGA figures weaponize drama.

Guests/backgrounds

Ashley St. Clair, described as a former Turning Point USA brand ambassador and ex–MAGA influencer who says she deprogrammed and regrets prior anti-trans positions; she is also described as Elon Musk’s baby mama. Benny Johnson is the main person she responds to (no guest, but featured via clips).

Key claims

St. Clair accuses Johnson of platforming “predator” Madison Cawthorn and of attacking her family/parenting; Johnson frames his response as Christian peacemaking while urging truth. The host alleges Johnson is hypocritical and grifting, and claims MAGA Christians ignore Jesus teachings while supporting war and wealth.

Notable examples

St. Clair’s “message” referencing custody/drug-testing Elon Musk; Johnson’s Instagram post about forgiveness/peacemakers; a claim about Johnson’s targeted ads for “gay cruises” after Google tracking; a clip of Sen. Tommy Tuberville criticizing GOP leadership as “embarrassing.”

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Ashley St. Clair's Deprogramming

0:45 to 2:30

Discussion about Ashley St. Clair, her past as a MAGA influencer, and her experiences.

“And you might remember we've done some reporting in the past that basically there's some corroborating evidence that Elon Musk chronically online shops for baby mamas on his free speech Nazi white nationalist website.”

Custody Battle Controversy

2:30 to 4:25

Exploration of the custody battle involving Elon Musk and Ashley St. Clair's remarks.

“Benny has continued to platform this awful human being.”

Benny Johnson's Reaction

4:25 to 6:10

Benny Johnson responds to Ashley's video and shares his thoughts on parenting.

“I fail to understand why all these women that have these babies with Elon Musk do not ask for a court order to drug test him.”

Critique of Christian Ideals

6:10 to 8:05

Discussion on Benny Johnson's Christian claims and contradictions in his actions.

“The internet runs on drama, and it's gotten worse.”

The Problem with MAGA and Religion

8:05 to 9:50

Exploring the connection between MAGA ideology and religious beliefs, particularly among influencers.

“And I just think I'm not a religious person.”

Critique of GOP and Tommy Tuberville

14:07 to 17:06

A deep dive into Tommy Tuberville's statements and critiques of the GOP's actions.

“But I want to leave you all with here's a video of Tommy Tuberville, and he calls the majority of the GOP embarrassing on Benny Johnson's podcast.”
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0:04I know this is really petty and immature but I love MAGA on MAGA crime MAGA on MAGA gossip I'm here for it I can't get enough of it and I want to share with you all and Pumps today a former MAGA influencer is going scorched on MAGA on MAGA gossip and I'm here for it to bring receipts. Her name is Ashley St. Clair. She is a former MAGA influencer and brand ambassador for Turning Point USA, brand ambassador, whatever. And I'm not even remotely close to being done. And she is a baby mama of Elon Musk. And you might remember we've done some reporting in the past that basically there's some corroborating evidence that Elon Musk chronically online shops for baby mamas on his free speech Nazi white nationalist website.

0:59Okay. So she deprogrammed from the MAGA cult and has expressed remorse and for taking anti-trans positions in the past, which I welcome, welcome, you know. Benny Johnson has taken issues with this, essentially saying she shouldn't have custody of her child, which leads me to believe if she doesn't have custody of the child, does that mean that Elon has custody of the child? The guy who showed up in the Oval Office with a black eye, tripping balls on ketamine, dressed like, I don't know, he just walked off the, from an all nighter sleepover on the subway and his little kid was wiping boogers on the nose, looking at the president and going, you're not the president.

1:55Do you remember all that? You remember that little, you're not the president. Okay. So here's the video of newly deprogrammed, former brand ambassador to Turning Point USA, Ashley St. Clair. This is a message for Benny Johnson. Since I came forward about my experience with that predator, Madison Cawthorn, I had mentioned in my video that Benny Johnson, I had disclosed to him that I had experienced this behavior with Madison Cawthorn and that Benny has continued to platform this awful human being. However, I'm not a consumer of Benny Johnson content because I value my IQ and I'm not one of his cerebral speed bump boomer followers.

2:45Unfortunately, I've watched his content in the last 24 hours because it's been sent to me. And before yesterday, I was unaware of the content that Benny Johnson had been putting out about me on his show, including about my family and my children, and that I should lose my child, that I am not a sane parent, that I am a narcissist making up lies about my finances and my family situation. So Benny, I have been sitting on the receipts of you for far too long. You and your sociopathic behavior and the way you operate your businesses and your grift. So you want to go, Benny, you want to talk about my children and make this personal?

3:32Let's go. Because I have been sitting on this for far too long. And guess what? A lot of people have been sitting on things about you for far too long. And I will remind you that if you live in a glass house, stop throwing stones for your little Facebook dollars. Tsk, tsk. Well, this was in response to this video that Benny had made about her custody battle with Elon Musk. Let's play this clip. Crazy, and it's wrong. Period. Just is. And so, yeah. The only thing that you can hope in this scenario is that the parent goes, the child goes to the sane parent that doesn't believe in this type of gender fluidity and butchery of children.

4:22Okay, I'm just going to say, as a former divorce lawyer, child custody, I fail to understand why all these women that have these babies with Elon Musk do not ask for a court order to drug test him. I mean, it's the easiest thing on the planet. The judge has jurisdiction. Fucking drug test his ass. I don't let's talk about his prescriptions for ketamine. Let's talk about how much he's taking. Like this makes no sense to me that these people are going round and round with Elon. It just seems it'd be just a slam dunk because he's a drug addict, obviously. That's very, very good from America's greatest legal mind.

5:02Absolutely. Great tip. So then Ashley St. Claire posted this on her Instagram story. and for those of you that are um listening it is a little image with a gay pride flag a picture a selfie of her and benny johnson and she says we're all a little gay we're all a little gay now and so then these people so then benny johnson responds to that with a post pop that up he says this post will not get clicks it won't make headlines it won't be red siren emoji breaking the internet because it will not feed the drama machine but it's still important to say i am a christian as a christian i try to live out my faith it's impossible to always get it right But it's something I strive for.

6:05Jesus says, blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God. The internet runs on drama, and it's gotten worse. I try to stay out of it, but the lies are loud, and it's important to state the truth. I don't know why people engage in this trash. It's bad for the soul. But to the people out there that do it, I forgive you. Christ forgave me. So I forgive you. I am sure I don't know what plan you are carrying, but Jesus does. He can carry it for you and set you free. Give your life to him. Then he quotes Matthew 11. Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

6:57you will find rest for your souls for my yoke is easy and my burden is light. I just want to point out that I think it's incredibly rich. The massive main core supporter influencers of Donald Trump quote Jesus Christ all the time. And they never talk about the stuff that, that Jesus says about like, you know, the accumulation of wealth. And, and Benny Johnson sitting there trying to pitch to us that he's some huge Christian and his Christianity guides him much like Riley Gaines to love Donald Trump unconditionally and support his mission and his message for peace is a walking, talking advertisement against Christianity.

7:48Like you were in this bubble at one point pumps. I mean, the sole purpose of a lot of this is to recruit, you know, to bring people in to make sure everybody's, you know, if the rapture comes and everybody's raptured, which is why I never got saved. Um, cause I didn't want to go, um, with all of those people, but what's your take on this, that all of this Jesus stuff wrapped up into supporting a man. And of course there's the grabbing by the pussy, the adjudicated rapist, But this is a guy who like, you know, there's 160 dead Iranian schoolgirls that were vaporized in a double tap strike by the United States of America.

8:28And I just think I'm not a religious person. But if I were and Jesus were my Lord and personal Savior, I would think that would be something that he would weep about. Well, that's exactly what you would think. But it's been so manipulated and distorted. Like just based on my experience. you are you are better than other people you get to demean people you are entitled to special treatment so killing school girls in iran you know you can excuse that because we have a higher purpose because we're going to you know save them or whatever here's here's the couple things that stood out to me about this benny johnson thing number one he quotes about the peacemaker you You know, Jesus wants to be a peacemaker while he is supporting a man that is committing war crimes every single day.

9:17Okay, that struck out to me. And then I kind of thought it was an admission where he says, I strive to be a Christian, but I don't always succeed. And what popped in my head was him so proud with his alligator Alcatraz hat on, saying how he could not wait for these people that were detained to try to escape so they could get eaten by alligators. And in terms of I'm a Christian, I have found in my lifetime, if you tell me you're a Christian and you have to tell me how godly your marriage is and how much you believe in God, then you are the single most fucked up person on the planet that is using your religion such as I pray about it and now it's gone.

10:05I don't have to be accountable because I prayed about it and it's gone. So everything about Benny Johnson is a grift and bullshit. Well, I couldn't agree with you more. And I just want to remind you and the viewer slash listener that we cannot forget that this is the guy who was dumb enough to post this online. So he posed the advertising on the Military Times right now. And it is an advertisement for the world's largest gay crews. And this was the day that Benny Johnson found out about Google using targeted ads based on the user's internet search history. So Google determined that Benny Johnson was Googling gay stuff at such a frequent rate, I would assume.

10:57I don't understand all of this, But at such a frequent rate that it thought, oh, well, this guy is a great candidate to go on this gay cruise. And so he basically tells on himself with that. And I think what Ashley St. Clair is getting at here is that Benny Johnson is a member of the DL Demon Queen sect of MAGA. And the DL Demon Queen sect are all of these DL queens that ostracize and demean gay people during the day and then fetishize them so much in their private space online or at night that they get targeted for this Benny Johnson guy. He's really into all the gay stuff on Google. I think he's a great candidate for our gay crews.

11:44And so on top of all of this, these people are abject liars and gaslighters. There's something so broken in them that they do not want to come to terms with that they would rather that play out by breaking other people. I think at the core of this, Benny Johnson is jealous. He is jealous AF at all of the out of the closet, prideful members of the LGBTQ plus community that can live in their space and as themselves and had the courage to do that despite the Benny Johnsons and the Lindsey Grahams and the Donald Trumps and all of these people and all of these mega church pastors that want to push them down.

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14:12But I want to leave you all with here's a video of Tommy Tuberville, and he calls the majority of the GOP embarrassing on Benny Johnson's podcast. Play the clip. Here, Benny is about, oh, we got to get reelected. We got to keep the majority. Well, hell, we ain't done anything in the majority. Why should we keep majority? We've got one bill passed, and that was President Trump pushing and pushing and pushing, and what took us 18 hours to get Republicans to vote for, 18 hours straight on the Senate floor. And it's embarrassing that we're up here and we're raising money to continue with the same people being up here.

14:51It's just nonsense. It's really nonsense.

14:56I assume it's because they're not far right enough. They're not taking enough people's rights away. They're not taking enough food out of children's mouths that he's not happy. But, you know, Tommy Teberville, he goes all through me. He is a failed football coach. He was in charge of a football program, compromise primarily of African-American black players. And then he is a fucking dyed in the wool, racist piece of shit. I cannot stand him. He shows you what a dipshit he is every time he opens his mouth. And Benny Johnson sitting over there with this coiffed hair and his glasses that I'm sure he looked in the mirror like, just stop.

15:42You two are pretenders. You are just fucking pretenders. And I'll just say this to Benny Johnson. If, you know, Ashley St. Clair or others drop a lot of evidence that, in fact, you might be DL. um tommy tuberville would be the first person to throw you under the bus never speak to you again and spit on your fucking face you the dl demon queens that carry the water for the patriarchy he's going to be the first to drown benny johnson is and the people who will embrace you and help you deprogram are the very people you're fighting against right now but tommy tuberville is going to spit in your face.

16:29He has absolutely the darkest, blackest, white supremacist, old, crusty, white guy. I know these type of men. They are the worst. They think they're so smart. They think they're so attractive. They think they're great lays and it couldn't be further from the truth because all of society has been rigged up for somebody as subpar as Tommy Tuberville to excel in life. And he sucks as a football coach and he sucks as a senator. All right. That's all we have. Like and subscribe. We'll be back later with more news.

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