In short
The episode is a rapid-fire political commentary segment focused on Laura Loomer’s alleged racist attacks and her ties to Donald Trump, plus broader criticism of Trump and Republicans.
Guests
none. Hosts are Jen (Jennifer Welch) and Don Lemon, with references to other public figures.
Key claims
Loomer is portrayed as attacking Black women (e.g., Angie Nixon) using slurs and as “institutionalized” or mentally unstable; Loomer is also accused of influencing Trump and helping with controversial debate moments. The hosts argue Trump attacks working people by restricting holidays and voting access, while spending heavily on golf, vacations, and Secret Service. They also claim Republicans privately dislike Trump but won’t criticize him publicly, and they discuss midterm convention dynamics and “war chest” money.
Notable examples
references to the Ku Klux Klan Act charge involving Don Lemon; Michelle Bachman’s Gaza “obesity” remark; a far-right kickboxing event with Nazi salutes; and Michelle Bachman/Elon Musk/ADL disputes.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLaura Loomer's Controversial Remarks
0:45 to 2:55
The hosts discuss Laura Loomer's derogatory comments and their implications.
“Democrats like Don Lemon hate that I have exposed Angie Nixon for what she is.”
Defending Women Against Attacks
2:55 to 4:42
Don Lemon articulates his defense of women, particularly Black women, in light of Loomer's comments.
“I see the larger point that Don Lemon is making here is in defense, particularly of black women.”
The Implications of Loomer's Influence
4:42 to 7:29
The hosts analyze Loomer's relationship with Trump and her impact on political discourse.
“And then tell people like you, and I love it that you, that you're doing that.”
Critique of Trump's Policies
7:29 to 11:15
A critical look at Trump's policies regarding working-class individuals and holidays.
“And this is just the strangest of times.”
Republicans' Discontent with Trump
11:15 to 13:26
The hosts discuss Republican reactions to Trump's upcoming midterm convention and their dissatisfaction.
“that comes out of his mouth, not even say that everything that comes out of his mouth, because he gives like lip service to them.”
Political Cowardice and Hypocrisy
14:01 to 16:44
Discussion on politicians' private support for Trump versus public criticisms.
“No, they just leak it anonymously to reporters because they are P-U-S-S-I-E-S-S, all of them.”
Congressional Responsibility
16:44 to 19:17
Analysis of Congress's role in war powers and their failure to act.
“Even the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, who is supposed to have his own independent power of the executive branch.”
Ted Cruz's Allegiances
19:17 to 23:26
Examination of Ted Cruz's loyalty to Trump despite personal attacks.
“He is mad at Republicans for not being excited about Ken Paxton in Texas.”
MAGA's Political Dynamics
23:26 to 25:49
Discussion of how MAGA figures interact with Trump and each other.
“So here we have a video of how you bring the tea you bring the tea man.”
Michelle Bachman's Controversial Claims
25:49 to 27:40
Critique of Michelle Bachman's remarks on Gaza and her political stance.
“Plot twist, the pronouns are going to be crazy.”
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Critique of Michelle Bachmann and Nikki Haley
28:03 to 29:44
Discussion on the uninformed statements of politicians like Bachmann and Haley regarding Gaza.
“And she says it, as you said, in front of cameras rolling.”
Rise of White Supremacy at Events
29:44 to 33:04
Exploration of a recent kickboxing event that featured racist behavior and the normalization of such acts.
“And I just, I'm going to just take a wild stab at this right here.”
Systemic Racism in America
33:04 to 35:28
Discussion on systemic racism in the U.S. and the political implications related to MAGA supporters.
“I don't blame him for the racism because that's already been there.”
Criticism of U.S. Government Actions
35:28 to 38:22
Critique of U.S. government actions in relation to Palestine and broader implications for human rights.
“And I think it's more dangerous than anything than people being concerned about a war in Gaza.”
Podcast Updates and Engagement
38:22 to 40:43
Announcement of changes and engagement with listeners regarding the podcast's future.
“And I feel a calling to stand up for that kid.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00All right, it's Friday. It's time for the weekend. Read or Welch's Lemonade or allegedly I'm here with my gorgeous, gorgeous co-host Don Lemon. Don, Laura Loomer is madder than a hornet at you and she is calling you mean things on Twitter. Pop this up. Oh my God. It's ironic. This is breaking news to me, Jen. You haven't seen this yet? No, I have not. Oh my God, I can't wait. Go ahead. Let me know what happened. Okay, it's ironic how Don Lemon is out there calling me ugly and accusing me of being racist. Between me and Don, one of us was charged by the Department of Justice under the historic 1871 Ku Klux Klan Act following an anti-ice protest at a Minnesota church.
0:46And it wasn't me. Democrats like Don Lemon hate that I have exposed Angie Nixon for what she is. And then she goes on to be incredibly racist and again calls Angie Nixon a ghetto black communist.
1:03What do you have to say to yourself? First of all, it makes no sense. It's like, oh, my God, breaking news. Don Lemon was charged by the Department of Justice under the Ku Klux Klan Act, which shows how ridiculous this case is. So thank you for making my case, Laura Loomer. She's not very bright, which is what I said. And Jen, you know, my love for women, I, you know, my love for my mom and my family, you know, how I treat, well, you know, right? And so I hate calling out that people like that. I hate calling out women and, and, and being disrespectful, but I don't think it was disrespectful to call out Laura Loomer, who called black women, ghetto black bitches.
1:41Okay. And considering the beautiful Queens, right? These gorgeous women that she's calling ghetto black bitches. have you seen what she's done to her face i'm all about improvement women want to get to men whatever you want to get done to your face but don't come here looking like a clown show and then calling people ugly names when you are ugly on the outside i might be jealous of katanji brown jackson which was my the reason that she got she posted that about me if i looked in the mirror and the thing that was staring back at me was laura loomer's face after the plastic surgery I might resent these naturally beautiful people and smart people.
2:20When she went after Ketanji Brown Jackson, Ketanji Brown Jackson is like magna cum laude at Harvard. Laura Loomer changed universities because she, oh my God, she was a snowflake. I can't believe these liberals and I needed to go somewhere where they wouldn't challenge me. It's like, Laura Loomer, have a seat. You're a troll. You're a troll. I think she's also been institutionalized before. Yes. You know what I mean? like this. Here's the thing about Laura Loomer. And first of all, I want to say, I don't see this as a prevailing statement that you're attacking a woman. What I see here, you in all of this is defending women.
2:55I see the larger point that Don Lemon is making here is in defense, particularly of black women. Obviously, something near and dear to you. But the Laura Loomer of it all, normally she would just be some fringe character on the internet. The problem with Laura Loomer Her relationship with Trump. She is a phone call away from him at all times. The whole eating the dogs, eating the cats bullshit from the debate. Laura Loomer prepped him for that. Laura Loomer gets people fired from military. She knows so much stuff about your case. I know you won't be able to comment on this, but her intimate knowledge of all that makes me think, was she the one who said, hey, guys, I think you need to arrest Don on the Ku Klux Klan Act?
3:40It would surprise me zero if this was all her idea, because she has she's best friends with the bunny boiler and best friends with Donald Trump. And this is just this is batshit crazy. You're 100 percent right. And as you know, you've spoken to Ashley Sinclair. I've spoken to Ashley Sinclair. Ashley Sinclair said there is a group of coordinated people out there who are who have been brought in. and their job is to attack people like me and you, Jen, right? People that they deem who are not speaking favorably of the MAGA movement, right? And just because it's good to attack people like us because the base likes it.
4:22So yeah, she might have some intimate knowledge. Perhaps we should, you know, maybe I should let my attorneys know about it. Maybe I should send that tweet. You know, this is why one of the reasons that I'm not on Twitter, because I don't have to worry about this stuff. People are talking about me all the time. All these people have no idea. And they're like, oh my God, you're trending on Twitter. Somebody's talking about you. And I'm just going la-di-da about my life. And then tell people like you, and I love it that you, that you're doing that. The other thing is, I'm glad you said that I am speaking out for women and protecting women, which, which I do.
4:53And people often don't understand the method of, by which I'm doing it. Because you have to point out the ridiculous. And also what I have learned as a communicator is that you have to meet people where they are with the language they understand. So if you are going to talk shit about and call someone ghetto and their accent, then how does that feel when someone does it to you? And so when I said in my thing, the first thing I said, and my response to Laura Loomer is, Laura Loomer is a piece of shit. And I said, there, I said it because that's the language that Laura Loomer understands. And obviously she understands it.
5:35I got her attention from saying Laura Loomer is a piece of shit. And that if I look like her, I might be jealous of Ketanji Brown Jackson or of Angie Nixon or of Jasmine Crockett because they are naturally beautiful, talented, smart, educated women who happen to be black. And she is. No, no. All right. And I'm sure every black woman is saying, thank God. No, Laura Loomer is a stain on white women. No question about it. Have you seen the before and after of her face? Oh, yeah. It's really jarring. It's that whole MAGA face thing. But I think hers has gone beyond MAGA face. And what I didn't realize is that people call her Jigsaw after a movie character, I think.
6:21Jigsaw, which is, I mean, I don't know. It's a little, yeah. yeah yeah i mean it's just some weird it's just it's the fact that she was better looking before the fact that the the president of the united states has this crazy ass stalker that he welcomes to be around him all the time natalie and then this best friend is lord loomer and we have to sit here and talk about it so don there aren't intellectual responses to this because this is dipshittery of the highest order the appropriate response is you're a moron yeah you don't know shit from shinola sit down and shut the up and quit uh being a racist twat that's basically what they understand because they're not doing smart things they're doing impulsive um wreckage they're impulsively wrecking everything because on the inside she's broken she's been institutionalized in the loony bin before.
7:25The bunny boiler, we've all read the letters she wrote to Donald Trump. She needs to be institutionalized. And sadly, we've all had to see the commander in chief drone on and on about Hannibal Lecter and all of these other things that he claims he's tackling when all we tend to see him do is take taxpayer funded naps and throw up gold everywhere he can. And this is just the strangest of times. But ahead of Labor Day, I say birds of a feather grift together. That's my last word. That is true. Okay. Ahead of Labor Day weekend, Trump makes this announcement. Pop this up. Too many non-working holidays in America.
8:03It is costing our country billions of dollars to keep all of these businesses closed. The workers don't want it either. Soon, we'll end up having a holiday for every once working day of the year. I don't know what he meant there. It must change, or what America great again. So listen up, plebes. No more days off for you. Look, if Donald Trump would like to save the taxpayers some money on days off, then maybe he shouldn't golf so much. Maybe he shouldn't have an entourage of secret service following him and his family around, or him especially as he goes from one course to the other to the other to the other he complained about barack obama golfing he has golfed more and vacation more than any other president i believe in modern history overall golf expenses let me just because you know i love facts there are funny things about facts overall golf expenses tracking groups and government uh estimates a place of cumulative cost of donald trump's golf related Secret Service detail and travel at over 70 million to 77 million dollars during his first presidential term alone.
9:24And we've gone into his second presidential term. And I'm not even getting to all the vacations that he goes to every time he goes to Mar-a-Lago and we're paying for that. I'm not getting getting into all of the money they spend on Secret Service and people following every member of his administration around as they, Marco Rubio, raise money in Sag Harbor and the Hamptons. Who do you think is paying for that? I'm asking, who do you think is paying for it? I'm not sure. I think the taxpayer is paying for the fuel, the plane, the travel. So if you want to save some money, clean up your own damn house.
10:03Yeah. And quit spending all the money on that trashy ass, tacky ass, white trash gold that you're putting up all over the place in that ballroom maybe we start there i mean it's just but you know what this is this is a tap an attack on the working class labor day is a day where we honor laborers and this is an attack on the working class and it's further an extension of the propaganda started with ronald reagan that working class people are lazy they're lazy and so this lazy trope is something that they're all really leaning into right now and i just want to point out the laziest MFR I've ever seen in my life is the guy who's on national television nonstop sleeping with RFK Jr.
10:43barking right here, which is phenomenal that you can sleep with RFK going in your ear. I never, I mean, I listen to some ambient noise at night, but it's soothing. The ambient noise for our elderly president is RFK Jr. And he sleeps on the global stage all day, every day. So that's just pretty rich. Yeah, it is. And I'm glad you mentioned, uh, like vilifying or, or demonizing the working class, because these are, these are the people that he's supposed to be protecting, or he pretends that he cares about when everything that comes out of his mouth, not even say that everything that comes out of his mouth, because he gives like lip service to them.
11:21So, so scratch that, but every, pretty much every single policy, or for the most part, they don't favor the working class people. The rich people, the oligarchs, the billionaires are paying less percentage wise than, you know, the grocery store cashier or the person or just the average person, the secretary or the secretary or whatever the average job is, they're paying less. All of these tax cuts benefit his wealthy friends. His policies benefit his wealthy friends. And also speaking of trying to limit access to the voting booth also affects working class people because people have jobs, they have to work.
11:59They need to have more access to the booth, more polling places, rather than them limiting it more of an opportunities to vote, like voting by mail, which he does and which Donald Trump is trying to restrict for others. So he doesn't respect the working class people, in my opinion, and through facts in not just the reporting, but in his policies. So if he really cared about working class people, he would spend a lot less time trying to restrict holidays and voting and from them to be able to make a living wage and to pay less taxes and spend more time on trying to do it rather than also, Jen, this game show that he's doing with Nicki Minaj.
12:41What? They're in cahoots. The reporting is that they're going to do a game show like a grocery store or something type game show or a small business game show where she's a judge and maybe he's the host. It's crazy. Nobody wants this, right? No, I don't want to see that shit. I don't want to see that. I've seen enough of him. Oh, my God, for God's sakes. Kylie, look into that. Speaking of nobody wanting to see much of Trump, Republicans are not happy about Trump a palooza. And Trump a palooza is he's going to have a convention for the midterms. And he's putting himself front and center because why not?
13:19He's a malignant narcissist. And the Republicans who voted for the malignant narcissist who have tethered themselves to this sinking ship or rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic right now as it goes down and they're whispering in the background they're not happy about this pop this up a mess house republicans trash trump's midterm conventions doesn't say they will blow it off and here's what i have to say big boys say it on the floor say it say it on cnn say it on ms now you're welcome to come on welch's lemonade also known as the we can read also known as allegedly and tell us, trash him, trash him with a microphone.
13:59Do they have the balls to say that? No, they just leak it anonymously to reporters because they are P-U-S-S-I-E-S-S, all of them. Yes, and by that, she means pussies.
14:16You use the T-W-A-T word, which I don't know as a man if I can say that. I really like it. The Brits use it. The Brits use it all the time, and I really like it. I'm trying to make it Americanized. You twat. They use that and they use the other word that we can't say a lot. C-U-N-T. Yeah, which the kids are, for the kids, it's a term of endearment. I mean, it's like, yeah, you know, I am not saying it. It's not in my vernacular. But a couple of things as it relates to that. Number one, Jen, I've been in this for a long time. I went through 2016, the beginning of this. I've interviewed Donald Trump, you know, many times.
14:55Um, and we would, people would come onto the show and they would be the biggest anti-Trumpers. And then finally, when they realized that it helped them, them career wise, they became Donald Trump supporters, right? In the green room, in the pre-call, in the, whatever, having a drink with them. This man is terrible. Oh my God, I can't believe it. He's awful. Blah, blah, blah. And you go, oh, welcome to the program, whatever congressperson or spokesperson. Nice to see you. Now, Donald Trump is going to say, oh, my God, he's great. He's the best thing since life. They won't say it publicly. They'll say it when the cameras aren't rolling.
15:32So you're right. Say it in person. Say it in front of a microphone. Come on this program. We'd love to have you if that's truly what you believe. And guess what? I do believe it's what they believe. They are cowards. I believe it's what they believe because what I am hearing from my sources in Washington is that it's$25 ,000, I think, to attend, which whatever representative or whatever branch of government that you're in, you have to pay that money. Donald Trump is not spending or sending any money to anybody who has run for office except for Lindsey Graham's sister, and that was under a million dollars.
16:08He's saving it all for him. And so they're having to go back. They just came off of summer vacation. They're having to go back. They're here this week. They got back this week. So they have one week and then they're off again for, pardon me, they're off again for another week or maybe seven days. They're going back to their districts to fundraise. I love this for them. Because they're not giving them any money. And they're going back to their districts to fundraise, but guess what they're not doing either? They're not doing town halls. They're not doing anything public with their constituents because they're afraid of what that looks like, the optics, and they know that they're going to get roasted.
16:43So number one, they're hypocrites. Number two, they're cowards and number three they're not representing the people they're supposed to represent so um i love this for them i love that they voted for him and they have been such loyal foot soldiers they'll talk behind his back but they will never ever say a word publicly he has 400 million dollar war chest 400 million dollars is a lame duck and he won't give any out what is it don no no it's gonna say it not but when you said war chest war think about this this And it relates to what we're talking about. Even the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, who is supposed to have his own independent power of the executive branch.
17:22They're kind of equal when it comes to governing this country. They're supposed to be. They're supposed to have the war powers. Right. When you said war chest, they're supposed to have the war powers. When asked by Manu Raju over at CNN, you know, this was supposed to go on, whatever. And you have been touting this war. He goes, that's a dumb question. I'm paraphrasing. That's a dumb question. Do you think the Speaker of the House is responsible for an international war? Yes, because the war powers are supposed to go through Congress. You have relinquished your power in the legislative branch to the executive branch.
17:54So yes, you are equally as responsible for this war as the president of the United States, because if you really wanted to stop him, you could stop him through the purse strings. You can cut off his money. You can tell him that he can't do it. You can threaten to impeach him. You have all types of levers within our government to be able to stop someone from a war of choice, a president from a war of choice, and you're not doing it. So not only are they afraid to criticize him, they're afraid to stand up for their own power, the right that has been granted to them under the Constitution. they're afraid of it.
18:30So if you believe in the constitution, you believe in your job, you believe in your constituents, then you should be doing something differently. So yes, Mike Johnson, you are just as responsible for this war as Donald Trump and all of the other people who are afraid to call him on it or who vote against the War Powers Act. I'm sorry, Jen. No, I love it. Well, you know why little Moses doesn't do anything? It's because he's busy Monitoring his son's. That, but also his testicles are in the top drawer of the Resolute desk, right under Elon Musk's kid's booger that he wiped on it. So it goes, Musk booger, and then Moses Mike Grinder Johnson's testicles.
19:08And that's why he doesn't do a goddamn thing about it, because testicles are right by the kid's booger. But when, and I'm so glad you brought all that up, but when I talk about the$400 million war chest, I know you know this, but listen, I'm talking about, that's what they refer to as like campaign money the rnc war chest and he's refusing to spend it on anybody and ted cruz ted cruz who has been so loyal i mean he's donald trump called heidi ugly he said ted cruz your dad killed jfk and ted cruz says god bless donald trump i mean he goes so hard in the paint for Trump. Well, he is mad. He is mad at Republicans for not being excited about Ken Paxton in Texas.
19:50Let's play the clip. The Republicans that are throwing rocks at Ken Paxton, my message to them is enough. Stop your bitching. We had a 200 million dollar primary and Ken won. And one of the reasons the numbers are close is because 200 million dollars of attack ads were run against him. And that does damage. You want to complain, complain in the primary. It's over. And by the way, I. I love this for Ted. I love this for Ted because Ted, you know, he likes to talk about how what a great Christian he is. God bless Donald Trump. And here he is supporting Ken Paxton. Ken Paxton is absolutely a scoundrel of the highest order.
20:30His wife is divorcing him for biblical reasons. He's been out playing grab ass with his mistress in London all summer. and it's all over the internet. I mean, this guy is just absolutely a fleabag beyond all recognition. I love this for all of them. I'm loving all of these meltdowns for Ted. Ted tweeted about me this week. Oh, he did? Yeah. Kylie, pop it up. Kylie's got to find it. It's really good. It made my day. Oh, you know, while she's popping it up, remember he retweeted something about me i forget what it was and uh and i called him out on his wife and the whole thing let me read this in my ted cruz voice god save us from liberal white women i don't know this jennifer welch character but she seems to be filled with pure boiling hate so radical so extreme that she views the rest of america as her enemies and i read this and i just tapped my arm and i was like inject it into my veins.
21:33What a pussy. He's scared of white liberal women. So let's review Ted. You're scared of drag queens. You're scared of books. You're scared of black people. Now you're scared of white liberal women. Could Ted Cruz be a bigger pussy? Could he Don? Is it possible? With Ted Cruz, I would say, yes, it is possible that he can be a bigger pussy. I mean, Jen, Have you seen Ted Cruz? Yeah, Chan Chan Cruz. He could be a bigger pussy. I don't know if you remember right after Donald Trump, or very close to the time after Donald Trump said his wife was ugly and that whole thing. And they, you know, they went through the whole primary.
22:19Ted, do you remember that video and that sad picture image of Ted Cruz in the call center calling people to support Donald Trump? after Donald Trump had talked shit about him. It was, if you, you know, the resolute desk and what's in the resolute desk, as you said, for Maggie Mike Johnson is the same thing for Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz will do anything that he thinks keeps him in power and in favor with the president of the United States. He has no convictions. Obviously he has no convictions about the people he is supposed to serve because he certainly during COVID hopped on that plane to go to Cancun and didn't give a shit about the people back home.
23:01And wasn't that, I think it was during the time, correct me if I'm wrong, that the power grid was suffering in Texas and people didn't have power. I think that was, yeah, I think that was during the time. Put that picture back up. Put that picture back up. There he is. They're lying. There he is. He is such a submissive wife. He has, I mean, he has submitted to his husband, Donald John Trump. What? A simp. They call him a simple. Yeah. Whether you not with an O she's saying. That's right. Okay. So here we have a video of how you bring the tea you bring the tea man. It's Friday. It's the weekend we've been we've battled through another week of this fascist takeover.
23:47We're here to give the people the news with some sass. All right. So now we have Howard Letnick who is oftentimes referred to as Howard nut lick. And he is sucking up to Trump on Fox News. Let's play the clip. We're going to mess with the United States of America and its economy. And you were right adjacent to our northern border. I think it was really disrespectful. We were treated disrespectfully. And I think when you treat Donald Trump disrespectfully, you know, he knows it. And that's what happened. He did it for politics. Was he talking about Canada? Was it? Yeah. was it canada they expected that they can attack canada and that canada should not uh fire back or attack back or defend themselves which is absolutely ridiculous i mean is donald trump isn't a king and so if you attack donald trump okay donald trump's not a king the american people are supposed to be the deciders in this country.
24:51They're all simpy because they're all, their husband, you're right, is Donald Trump. It feels like a husband. It feels like Donald Trump is the head of the household. And when he comes home, they make him a snack, a sandwich for dinner. He makes that bacon and Howard Nutlik's frying up in a pan. Do you remember that commercial? And never, never, never let you forget you're the man, because I want Anjali. Yes. Of course I remember that. Yes. That's what it is. And then, hello, honey, here's your dinner. I ordered it especially for you, and it's still warm right in the McDonald's bag. That's what they're doing every night in his apron.
25:40Howard and Ted are there servicing Donald Trump. They are. They are trad wives. The trad wives of MAGA. Plot twist, they're all men. Plot twist, the pronouns are going to be crazy. But isn't plot twist that they're all men in the Republican Party? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay. I know that you - Sounds like a standard norm for me. Did you ever have Michelle Botwin on your CNN, the crazy from Minnesota? to oh you should just google you don't have to do it now google don lemon and michelle bachman we had a row and i think it was in iowa or somewhere this was years ago and she was getting on her plane or getting on a helicopter somewhere in an uh entourage whatever and i asked her a question she didn't like and we went at it so uh yeah she's dumb as a stump oh jesus she's back and And she has some things to say about Israel-Palestine.
26:40Play the clip. The other thing that they've been accused of is famine, that Israel has tried to starve Gazans, when as a matter of fact, their calorie count is over 3 ,000 calories per person a day from all of the food that's coming in. And the biggest problem they're dealing with most recently in Gaza is obesity, because so many calories have been coming in in Gaza. My life is booked and busy. I don't have time to try on a million outfits that still don't feel right. That's why I get styled with Stitch Fix. My personal stylist sends outfits picked for my size, style, and budget so I can get dressed and get on with my day feeling confident.
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27:37What? She said that with a straight face. She said the biggest problem they're dealing with in Gaza is obesity. And there were cameras that recorded it. I told you she was dumb. Okay. I'm sorry to have to say that. She's not a very bright woman. And she's not. Let's just put it this way. Okay. My mama raised me right. She is uninformed on this particular issue. And many other issues. And she says it, as you said, in front of cameras rolling. If you want to prove some to someone of your ignorance or just how uninformed you are, keep talking. I know there's a saying, I forget what the exact quote is, right?
28:20If you want to prove how dumb you are or something, then keep talking. But and that's what Michelle Bachman does. There's a reason that she was I think she was running for president or something at one point is when I interviewed her and then her staff and like tried to push me out of the way because I was asking her tough questions. And she like elbowed me. But I think that that's the reason that she's not in office. It's a very similar reason that Nikki. What's her name? Haley is not in office is because their ideas are outdated. They appear to be uninformed on the issues or because they I don't see.
28:51I would think that I would think that Nikki Haley would know better. And so she's just saying it because she wants, you know, to gain favor with the MAGA group. But I just think Michelle Bachman just doesn't know. I just think she's not a very bright person. to say that obesity is the biggest issue in Gaza. Too many calories in, she said. 3 ,000 calories a person. Has she seen the images coming out of Gaza? Obviously not. Has she seen the reports? It's crazy. Obviously not. It's demolished. And the kids are starving, and people are starving there. It's an absolute human rights disaster. And Michelle Bachman is one of these politicians that always wears her faith on her sleeve.
29:27And this is something that she should be a leader on. If she is this big follower of Christ, she should be a leader on talking about the human suffering of the uh gauze and children but of course as we see the the loudest most overt religiosity does is not followed up with the kindest acts in this country which brings me to some insane footage from a kick boxing event in florida over this weekend pop this up let's see this so they're holding up nazi flags people are doing sig hiles back to them a bunch of white dudes you know kind of this fuck yeah america pickup trucks nuts on the truck swastikas maga they're all doing sig hiles and they this is really exciting the event was a kickboxing match featuring a far right white supremacist internet personality who goes by the name gypsy crusader after winning the match he made an anti-semitic remark about his Jewish opponent and his supporters can also be seen waving Nazi flags and doing Nazi salutes in the crowd.
30:33And I just, I'm going to just take a wild stab at this right here. I would think that the majority of people, overwhelming, 99 % of the people in that room, if they went out and voted in 24, voted for Donald Trump. That's their big 10. um what do people say not all the not all maga people are racist but all the racists are maga so i can't say that i uh disagree we disagree with you on that point and uh to me it's obvious that's where we are in america so when people like me and like you women right um you're liberal i'm an independent but when people like me especially black people talk about the bigotry and the racism, the homophobia, all of it, you know, gay people talk about that, but especially black people, when we talk about that, people deny it.
31:27Even people like Officer Tater, right? They deny that there is systemic racism, that there's systemic racism in policing, that America is not a racist country. Politicians who have run for office have said that. I think Donald Trump says it. I think MAGA folks say it. America is not a racist country. We may not be a racist country, but there are a whole lot of racists who live in this country. There are racists who are deciding, making decisions politically for all Americans, black Americans every single day, minorities every single day. We have neo-Nazis running around in khakis. We have this display at this boxing match or whatever it is.
32:09We had the MMA fighter who said, you know, who talked about Michelle Obama. It is there. And it is these white dudes who, by the way, you know, the biggest terror threat in the United States of America are right wing white men. I'm not just saying it. I got a lot of flack for saying it for basically repeating what the head of the FBI, Christopher Wray, said domestic terror, white dudes, conservative. And so why aren't we doing something about that? Why isn't that the lead story every day? Why aren't we talking about white on white crime, white on black crime? This is this should be criminal to this sort of behavior.
32:51Yes, we have freedom of speech, but that's hate speech. And we're not supposed to tolerate hate speech. It is symbolic of the time that we're in in this country. And in large part, I blame Donald Trump for it. I don't blame him for the racism because that's already been there. I blame him for legitimizing it, for platforming it, for co-opting those people, making them feel comfortable by being part of his coalition. So I blame Donald Trump because he has become the imprimatur for racists. And for, by the way, if you're watching and you are a poorly educated MAGA person, that means imprimatur means that you are co-signing it or making it OK.
33:35Or some people say imprimatur. I say imprimatur. Just in case you don't know what it is, Google it. It means that he is not only co-signing it, that he is legitimizing it through his stature. I completely agree with you. And it's also important to point out here that groups like the ADL that are supposed to be advocates against anti-Semitism let people like Elon Musk off the hook while going after people like Mark Ruffalo, who's standing up for universal human rights. So this is a real time in the country where we need rock solid moral clarity against all forms of bigotry. And anti-Semitism is really nasty and really disgusting.
34:21And I want to remind you that the vice president of the United States of America, our little smoky eyed sociopath, refused to condemn Republican Nazi group chats. Can I say something, Jen? I'm glad you reminded me of that. I wanted to say it before you responded. I say this to my Jewish friends and my Jewish brothers and sisters when they tell me, you know, the left has become so anti-Semitic. Is there anti-Semitism on the left? I'm sure. Do I think that people who don't support what's happening in Gaza are necessarily anti-Semitic? No, I don't think that they're anti-Semitic. I think that they don't believe that people should be killed randomly and indiscriminately and children should be starved.
35:07And I think that's a legitimate position to have. But I tried to remind them that of what we are talking about now, of the images that we just saw, of the swastikas and all of, you know, the anti-Semitic imagery and speech that comes and behavior that comes from the right. And I think it's more dangerous than anything than people being concerned about a war in Gaza. And I just want them to understand that because there's proportionality in everything. That's more dangerous for me. It's that are you going to go to the polls to vote for a party that is fighting for democracy, a party that doesn't necessarily overall and isn't necessarily overall anti-Semitic or bigoted?
35:54Are you going to vote for the party that is, that endorses that bigotry by not calling it out and pretending that it's not happening within their own party? I think the Republicans in MAGA are more dangerous when it comes to anti-Semitism than the left has ever been and can ever be, at least, you know, from if you're looking at history as a guide. Well, and I think, you know, criticism of Israel is worthy. It is required right now. I, as an American citizen, I want my government criticized. I want everybody in the world to see what Donald Trump is doing, to see what his advisor, Laura Loomer, is doing when she calls out Angie Nixon.
36:37I want everyone to see what DHS is doing when they kill Renee Good and Alex Pretty and then call them domestic terrorists. I want them to see that they are arresting people without due process, and it deserves criticism. It deserves harsh, harsh criticism, and it should not be sandwashed and it should not be excused. And the criticism of that is the best way to support me as an American. And likewise, what's going on in Israel right now with the provocations and genocide and war crimes in Gaza, it shocks the conscience. They're killing journalists. They're killing children. People are starving, contrary to what Michelle Bachman says.
37:19it is the best thing. Truth is the ultimate, ultimate antiseptic. We cannot not tell the truth. Ben Gavir, who works in the Israeli government, put out an AI video yesterday of Palestinians on a carousel like they were cows going to the slaughterhouse. and this is this is really dark sadistic stuff and people of good conscience of all faiths or no faith or of all skin color there are a lot of fascists and right-wing populists forming all over the world right now and those of us that want to keep everybody safe have to have an ethos that none of us are free until all of us are free and so i'm not a religious person i'm an atheist but I feel morally called to stand up for the little Palestinian kid that didn't choose to be a Palestinian, that watched their parents get killed, their siblings be amputees, and it's just trying to find water and a meal.
38:24And I feel a calling to stand up for that kid. That does not mean that I am anti-Semitic. Quite the contrary. I want everyone to be safe and nobody to fall prey to bigotry and bigotries that kill people. It's just, there's so much crap that we're living with and all of these horrible news cycles. I just, we all need to take a beat and realize like we all have to fight for the weakest among us. That's really the most heroic thing that we all can do. Jen, that was so eloquently said. i don't really have anything to add to that i think that you're 100 right and that is my sentiment same sentiments thank you for saying that thank you we want everybody to have a fabulous fabulous weekend we have great wait a minute are we done no i thought you had a hard time with you i do your producer excuse me a what no but here's the thing okay listen up the the listeners of the weekend read well just learned we're gonna have a official photo soon we're working on that are Are you giving away our, let's tell, let's tell the people.
39:31Are we announcing? What are we doing? We don't have a date yet, but we're officially going to be an official podcast. And you guys in the comment section, I mean, we want to call it the weekend read, like, and we're going to talk about who we're reading, but you all named it Welch's Lemonade. So Don and I kind of felt like it was a dog. Like my dog has 45 names. I'm constantly changing his name. He has a million nicknames. That's kind of like this podcast. Sometimes we call it allegedly. Sometimes Welch's Lemonade. It's like my dogs. My dog is Boomer and I call it Boomer or Boom Boom or Boomy or whatever, or hi Boomy.
40:04Hi. Oh my gosh, you just got groomed. And then there's Barkley and I call him Barkley or Bark Bark or Barks or broccoli. So yeah, but I think we should do, why don't we ask people in the comment section, on the socials, in the YouTube, wherever we are, what name, maybe we should put out a poll. What should it be? Should it be Welch's Lemonade? Should it be the weekend read? Should it be, um, allegedly, Oh my gosh. DJ T Don Jen talk. Shit. I don't know. Don Jen take, I don't know what should it be. Yeah. I'm excited about it though. I look forward to this and I think people need, um, a reminder over the weekend of what happened and they need a palate cleanser.
40:53And I think that's what we're going to offer them and then take them into the next week. I agree. Darling, safe travels. I love you. And thanks everybody for tuning in and go this week. It was on my channel, but go subscribe to Don Lemon and watch his videos. He goes live. He actually does the whole live because he's like a news guy at what? 10 and five Eastern. 10 a.m. Eastern time, 5 p.m. Eastern time on all the socials. And I think it's important to make sure that you're subscribed because people watch us and they're not necessarily subscribers and subscriptions are free so subscribe to our shows and become members too to keep independent media and independent journalists afloat all right bye darling bye love you love you
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