'MAGA Men Are So Castrated!' Chelsea Handler Lets Loose on Trump; They're Spiraling

12 Sep 2026 · 1 h 2 min · 27 chapters

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In short

Chelsea Handler discusses politics through a feminist/anti-authoritarian lens, focusing on Trump/MAGA behavior, women’s backlash, propaganda, and the Israel-Gaza conflict. She argues fascism has no good ending and that “liberal white women” are targeted as scapegoats.

Guests

Chelsea Handler (comedian, TV host, seven-time New York Times bestselling author; High and Mighty tour). Co-host/interviewer is not clearly identified by name in the transcript.

Guest backgrounds

Handler grew up in Oklahoma; her life manager/assistant is from Enid, Oklahoma and was raised Christian and anti-abortion before moving to LA. Handler also describes a producer raised in rural Oklahoma without home internet who deconstructed faith via political content online.

Key claims

Trump is “in deathbed confession era,” openly sexualizing men and offering money to voters; Republicans are “castrated”/spineless and waiting to cheat or separate after elections. Netanyahu is framed as a war criminal; criticism of Israel is not the same as antisemitism. She argues universal human rights (including socialism/DSA) are the antidote to patriarchy/capitalism gone wrong.

Notable examples

Republican convention “beat meat” remarks; Ted Cruz attacking “liberal white women”; Megyn Kelly’s criticism of Handler; Mark Ruffalo defending claims about the Ellison family funding the IDF; references to election interference and Hungary; a story about a “Karen” confronting a Black woman at an airport.

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Chapters

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Chelsea's Tour and Political Views

0:00 to 0:10

Chelsea discusses her tour and evolving political beliefs.

“That may include the bacteria that can cause meningococcal disease known as meningitis.”

Chelsea's Tour and Political Views

1:16 to 2:30

Chelsea discusses her tour and evolving political beliefs.

“a television host, seven-time New York Times bestselling author.”

The Challenge of Political Awakening

2:30 to 4:38

Explores how individuals change their political views.

“they're hungry for it because a lot of artists probably feel similarly to the way I do.”

Internet and Deprogramming Beliefs

4:38 to 6:39

Discusses how the internet aids in changing outdated beliefs.

“She's like, I don't know if I believe all the things that you believe.”

Grief in Changing Beliefs

6:39 to 7:22

Examines the emotional toll of shifting political ideologies.

“I think a lot of times when people deprogram themselves, they go through a lot of grief from it.”

Trump's Political Strategies

7:22 to 7:57

Analyzes Trump's recent political strategies and statements.

“Well, I want to talk about your tolerance for beating meat.”

The Republican Party's Dilemmas

7:57 to 10:40

Discusses the struggles of the Republican Party and its leaders.

“I mean, just drooling over Zoran Mamdani.”

Misconceptions About Trans Issues

10:40 to 12:22

Debunks myths surrounding trans issues in schools.

“Like I had to fill out 95 forms to have my kid get an aspirin, much less getting their wiener whacked off.”

The Fear of Strong Women

12:22 to 14:00

Explores the backlash against empowered women in society.

“Like, I love how they think that this is a long game because Trump is just in it for the grift.”

The Death Cough of Patriarchy

14:00 to 16:51

Discussion on the decline of white male patriarchy and its impact on society.

“and I'm independent and I have money and I don't have a husband.”
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Women Taking Control

16:51 to 19:17

Exploration of women's independence and the societal pressures to conform.

“Never about the late Lady Graham whose sex workers are coming out of the woodwork saying Lady Graham wore red panties and invited all these sex workers.”

Rejecting Patriarchal Norms

19:17 to 20:48

Critique of the societal belief that women's worth is tied to marriage and motherhood.

“But if you don't, don't think you have to do it.”

The Flaws of the System

20:48 to 22:48

Discussion on capitalism, climate change, and the failures of the current political system.

“With the convergence of what's happening in the climate.”

Women Supporting the Patriarchy

22:48 to 24:25

Exploration of how some women reinforce patriarchal systems despite benefiting from feminist movements.

“So everything that Megyn Kelly talks about, she like her, you know, nothing else lands because she's so misguided.”

The Unfuckable Men

24:25 to 28:00

A humorous take on unattractive political figures and their societal influence.

“Elon Musk, Stephen Miller, or Hitler if he were still alive.”

Critique of Political Figures

28:00 to 30:20

A critique of various political figures, focusing on their actions and reputations.

“Otherwise, he wouldn't be acting this way.”

The Complexity of Israel-Palestine Debate

30:20 to 37:42

A discussion on the evolving opinions regarding the Israel-Palestine conflict and its implications.

“We're just going to switch it to talk about something light, Chelsea.”

Human Rights and Political Responsibility

37:48 to 42:09

Exploring the moral obligation of individuals to engage with and understand human rights issues.

“When I am on Instagram, and you know how if you follow somebody, it'll show like this person likes this.”

Responsibility of the Privileged

42:09 to 43:50

Explores the moral obligation of wealthy individuals to engage with societal issues.

“It impacts me even though it's not my personal life.”

Humanity and Political Policies

43:51 to 45:54

Discusses the impact of dehumanizing policies on various marginalized groups.

“I am too, because I think about it a lot.”

Universal Human Rights Advocacy

45:55 to 47:21

Advocates for a broader understanding of human rights across identities.

“And that's why I like some of these DSA candidates that are popping up all over the U.S.”

Racism and Personal Experiences

47:22 to 50:05

Shares a personal story that illustrates everyday racism and privilege dynamics.

“I'm not a stalwart on anything besides human rights.”

The Impact of Politics on Racism

50:06 to 51:26

Examines how political climates embolden racist attitudes and behaviors.

“But in Oklahoma, there's still so much segregation.”

Reflections on American Ideals

51:27 to 54:14

Reflects on the challenges facing American democracy and encourages hope.

“And Oklahoma City, I know that 50 % of you in that city are the most beautiful blue dots in a red state, but you're listening to what I'm hearing right now.”

Mobilization for Change

54:15 to 56:00

Calls for active participation in political processes and social justice movements.

“And I think that I always try to remind my listeners, and I know you and I've texted about this, about the midterms and how important the midterms are.”

Chelsea Handler's Call to Action Against Injustice

56:00 to 59:42

Chelsea Handler passionately discusses the urgent need for collective action against political injustices and corruption.

“Make sure they're dying in these concentration camps that we're living in.”

Chelsea Handler's Call to Action Against Injustice

59:45 to 1:01:15

Chelsea Handler passionately discusses the urgent need for collective action against political injustices and corruption.

“And not only for my audience, for me, because it is a reminder about humanity.”
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1:11We have Chelsea Handler here today on I've Had It Weekend in studio. She's a comedian, a television host, seven-time New York Times bestselling author. I prefer Arthur. Arthur. author. Why are you being a bitch already? I'm not. I'm just giving it to you. We're friends. I can do that. You're headlining your High and Mighty tour. I am, then. You're not even going to be here for my New York date on September 25th. I'm going to the Tampa show. Oh, yeah. Perfect. I love... I couldn't wait to get back to Florida, so I wanted to nail those dates down right away. Exactly. You know what I decided about Florida?

1:46Because I usually don't go to Florida, but I do go to Texas to perform because I feel like Texas has a chance of turning blue at some point or electing the right person instead of the wrong ones. And I was and I'm like, but I don't want to go to Florida. And then I was dating a guy that was from Florida. And he was like, you have to come to Florida. I'm like, no, I just don't go to Florida. I'm sorry. Like even to visit a boyfriend, I'm not going. And then I got all these messages from people in Florida being like, it's, you know, we're here. There's lots of blue people here and Democrats here.

2:16I don't even care if you're, well, I do care now at this point, if you are a Democrat. And I was like, you know what? People are more important than the state. So I am doing some dates in Florida. And yeah, and they sold out right away. So apparently, they're hungry for it because a lot of artists probably feel similarly to the way I do. Blue dots and red states are the toughest progressive fighters this country has. Yes, I've heard you say this, and it's absolutely 100 % on the money. They are craving, because I was one, am one, craving camaraderie and like-mindedness with such intensity. Because it's like in New York or LA, you just walk outside and you breathe liberal air.

3:02You don't have to worry about people taking away your right to an abortion. You don't have to worry about them favoring the rights of a rapist or the rights of guns over your children and things like that. You don't have to worry about it. You just breathe liberal air. And, you know, pretty much, I mean, there's degrees of fucked upness within the Democratic Party, but in general, they're not going to just really sock it to you. So there's some really good fighters, but it's difficult going into these states where, you know, the majority of people think you're just a childless cat lady libtard.

3:31Yeah, but I'm not there for long enough to interact with those people. You know, it's pretty in and out. You go to your show and whoever's coming to my show is not obviously feeling that way. And if they are, then they were dragged there by somebody. And I'm fine with that. But yeah, but you have a very unique experience coming from Oklahoma and getting to breathe the liberal air. So like, and I have an assistant who I told you, she's more than an assistant. She's my life manager and my life partner. She's from Enid, Oklahoma. So when she got to LA, she was an intern for me on my very first show, Chelsea Lately, or not was it even, whatever.

4:07And she was, you know, believed that abortions, you know, should be illegal and that nobody should get one. She had very strong belief system, Christian belief system. And then once she got to L.A., and like, you know, many people do, I know you had your, you never had to have an awakening, really. You were just in the wrong place. I had to deprogram pumps. You had to deprogram pumps. So that was an assignment. And I started to deprogram my assistant. And then she kind of resented me. She's like, I don't know if I believe all the things that you believe. I'm like, listen, abortion is about a lot more than just killing a baby.

4:48That's not what it is. Let's break it down and talk about the way people are living in this world and things that happen to people in this world and financial insecurity, food insecurity, all of these issues. But she left me for a couple of years and worked for someone else because she said she had to get away from my political viewpoints was one of the reasons. She also had a kid during that time. She wanted to do that out of my presence. Now she's my favorite baby in the world, obviously. But she came to all of these conclusions on her own without my influence and now, you know, is barely speaking to the people that still believe in those things.

5:25So I was thinking about that when I was walking down here today from my hotel about how you change your viewpoint without getting out of those small places. How does one change their viewpoint if they're not exposed to the real world or a bigger world or a larger portion of the population? Yeah, I think that it's something that with the internet now is really helpful. We have another producer, Seth, and he's based in Oklahoma. and he was raised in rural, rural, rural Oklahoma. And his mother was a secretary at this Baptist church. And Seth and his family had no internet in the house. And so Seth would go, Mom, can I go to work with you?

6:06And he could get on the computer that had Wi-Fi. And while she's doing all the Southern Baptist bookkeeping and stuff, he completely deconstructed his faith in junior high and high school on the Southern Baptist Wi-Fi network in rural Oklahoma listening to the likes of Hassan Piker, Radical Kami, and other people. And so that's really kind of changing things too, whereas probably your assistant from Oklahoma and Angie, it's really all they know. There aren't other options. It's this way or the highway. You have to believe this. And indoctrination is so powerful. I think a lot of times when people deprogram themselves, they go through a lot of grief from it.

6:48They feel grief. It's almost like a loss for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say that's true. Because you also have to kind of, because it leads to just an excommunication of sorts with those people that still believe in that system, because, you know, they're so intransigent. And then we become intransigent in our ideology, you know, if you want to call it that, which, you know, I'm sure I know they do. So it's very, it's not something that I wish for anyone to go through. But I have zero tolerance, as I know you do as well. Yeah. For any of that nonsense anyway. It's too stupid at this point.

7:23Well, I want to talk about your tolerance for beating meat. Play the clip. Is this a picture of me mastering? But he ran a campaign to beat meat. He called it beat meat. I don't know what the hell he meant by that. So vile. These people are going to tell me what the hell is he wants to beat meat. Okay. So that was the Republican convention this week in Dallas, Texas. And I have made a theory that I think Trump is in his deathbed confession era. We're seeing a lot of bisexuality coming out of that. He's constantly talking about how hot he thinks men are. You're such a good looking guy. Look at this handsome guy.

8:02I'd kiss that guy right on the mouth. I mean, just drooling over Zoran Mamdani. I mean, the complete commie enemy of all commie enemies for a MAGA person. And here he is talking about beating meat to a room full of just complete abject Bible thumpers. These people, I mean, he also offered to pay them$5 ,000 each. Yes, he did. I'm going to pay everyone who votes for the Republican Party, not even him, just Republicans. You're going to get a$5 ,000 check. And they're cheering for him. And it's like, you know, we've discussed this before. There is no bottom. It doesn't matter that he's cheating or that he's saying he's cheating, which is basically what he's said.

8:47I mean, he said it all. Right. He said everything. And so these people are there never there is a group of people that just will never let go of the idea. Like they could be starving for three months with no food, no gas, no electricity. And they would still be like, we believe in him. This is for the war, I guess, in Iran. I mean, I'm not sure. I don't know. No, it's true. There's no bottom. But you have to imagine how dumb would you have to be? I mean, I know that these Republican Congress people and senators are in hell right now because they're just waiting to see what happens in these midterms if they can steal them.

9:24Like, we should hold on. We have to keep our, you know, we have to keep a pace with him to some degree because he might be able to steal this election. Like, that's what they're banking on. Right. And then if he doesn't, then they have to separate quickly because otherwise they're all toast. So it's like and most of them are intelligent enough, not all of them, but most of them are intelligent enough to see the writing on the wall. Right. So if he's not able to steal this election, like what what what are they going to do? What then what happens? Like what happens after the midterms? I can't fucking wait.

10:00I can't either because and I'm still terrified of it. Like there were a lot of empty seats there last night, but he's taken a victory lap, of course. And they're going to try to cheat. They are already election interference with Jimmy Kimmel, not allowing Jimmy to air the interview with James Tallarico, which is the same bullshit they did in Hungary. And Mygar still won. He's still defeated. And they got that autocrat out. But, you know, they've moved. They switch. They're rotating villains. They have immigrants, of course. Yes. Trans people, trans athletes, kids that use litter boxes in school, teachers that are performing sex change jobs in school.

10:39Yes, in school. It's amazing. Yeah. Like I had to fill out 95 forms to have my kid get an aspirin, much less getting their wiener whacked off. That wasn't an option in my onboarding, signing my kids up for school. I love that people who are anti-trans believe that you can go to school and transition in the afternoon. Yeah. And then you come home It doesn't take 38 surgeries and consultations and psychiatric evaluations and that somebody is just doing that because they want to have a good time. And here's the problem. Trump saying that shit is one thing because we expect him to wake up and say crazy shit.

11:16The people who are supposed to provide a guardrail continue to perpetuate this lie. The sitting attorney general and Epstein apologist, Todd Blanche, repeated on the news over a couple weekends ago that it's epidemic, this wiener-whacking stuff that's going on in schools. I believe McMahon, the woman who runs the Department of Education, whose husband is involved in, of course, some sexual abuse scandal because all Republicans seem to be involved in these, she repeats the same lies. My thing about a lot of these Republican men is they literally have no balls. They can't grow a pair because they're waiting for Trump to possibly cheat to win.

11:58And that's the wrong thing they should be doing. They should be Republican Party Richard Nixon-ing this thing. Trump's 80. That's what is so crazy to think about with all of these people. It's like you just don't understand what your endgame is. First of all, fascism has never had a good ending. When did it end well? Like Hitler blowing himself, you know, blowing his brains out in a bunker. Mussolini, did that end well? Like, I love how they think that this is a long game because Trump is just in it for the grift. He's just there like, I'm going to plunder the government. I'm going to plunder everybody's money.

12:34I'm going to take everything I can while I'm here and be an opportunist and enrich my family and leave a mark and a stain, including defiling the Oval Office with his feces, with, you know, shitting his pants. I mean, that's where we have a president who is shitting his pants in the Oval Office and a vice president who's standing upright behind him. That's wearing eyeliner. That is wearing eyeliner. Like, so the president is wearing a full face of makeup, yet they talk about gender affirming care. Like it's a big we are governed. And here's the problem. AOC said this once. Could the villains be a little cooler?

13:11I know. These guys are just such insufferable dorks. But they moved on to a new villain, and it's the liberal white woman. That's us. That is us. Yes. So these pussies. That's nosotros in Espanol.

13:26So now they've moved on. Ted Cruz went after me. I texted this to you the other day. Pop this up. Ted Cruz says, God save us from liberal white women. I don't know this Jennifer Welch character, but she seems to be filled with pure boiling hate, so radical, so extreme that she views the rest of America as her enemies. And they go after you quite a bit too. Do they? Yeah. I think they do. Yeah, I've had some dust-ups with those men and that gives me a lot of pleasure. It's really satisfying. It really does. It's just like another feather in my cap, you know what I mean? And it emboldens me because we represent everything, even me more so because I have no children and I'm independent and I have money and I don't have a husband.

14:08like I'm a witch, you know? So I feel like we are in this, I don't know how long this period of time is going to last because I do feel like it's the death cough of white male patriarchy, but I felt this for some quite some time. And I don't know if that's a 500 year period of time or a 50 year period of time, but the way that men are behaving and reacting to strong women makes it clear that they are very afraid and they are very scared. What we could use is a lot more people standing up on behalf of, you know, the types of women, especially that I am child free and husband free and in celebration, you know what I mean?

14:48Instead of degradation, people that aren't, you know, I know a lot of people think they're allies, but my issue in this day and where we are is that not enough people were outspoken enough. There was no men's march about Roe v. Wade. There was a women's march. Men could do more for us and stand up more for not only us, but for every other marginalized community that's under attack under this administration. It's not just enough to say it. You have to act it and you have to do it. And so that's disappointing. But now look at where we are because of that behavior and inaction, that lethargy. You know, it's kind of put us in this situation where we're dealing with, you know, a president who shits his pants, who started a war that he can't end with election stealing.

15:34And nobody's even denying it. You know, the biggest, I just can't wait for, because some of them are going to go down. Some of them are. I don't think Trump will pay the price. He'll hopefully be dead, you know, at some point soon. But like Mike Johnson, you know, the response of I haven't heard that yet. I haven't seen that yet. That bullshit makes me crazy, almost crazier than the outright lying. You know, the denialism that makes me crazy to not have to address the thing that you don't want to address because you're trying to push this law through. So I'm sorry, I went a little off course from Ted Cruz, but he tends to do that with people.

16:15But Ted Cruz is on, he's on, he's on, he's so repugnant. You know, they're all so, I mean, Mitch McCullough, they have a dead man. There's a man, there's a dead person that is an acting senator. Speaking of dead people, the late Lady Graham. Catherine Graham? No, Lindsay. Oh, Lindsay Graham. I'm like, from the Washington Post? What a pivot. it. No, like Lady Graham. Lady Graham. Thank you. I love it. Had no children, never married. I think we all know why. Right. And then you, no children, never married. And they go fucking bananas about you. Never about the late Lady Graham whose sex workers are coming out of the woodwork saying Lady Graham wore red panties and invited all these sex workers.

17:04And they're on the record now. This is what he was doing. But here is Megan Kelly applying a standard to you that she never applied to Lady Graham. Play the clip. I'm watching clips about myself. Marriage is patriarchal. It's much more fun to just hook up with guys all the way into your menopause years as she is now 51 and has, I guess, absolutely no desire to have a deep, meaningful connection with another human who's her partner in life and potentially father to a children. Wow. Yeah. She's mad at you. She told me. Wow. I have a lot of deep, meaningful, A, penetration, and deep, meaningful connections with lots of people that aren't men.

17:52And that would be, I would love to know who her little circle of girlfriends are, you know, or I would love to know what kind of deep, meaningful connection she's had. ever had with anything other than, you know, like being a talking head for the very group of people that are trying to destroy your freedom of choice and your ability to even be on a show like that is wild. It's just wild to see these women standing by his side, especially that little pipsqueak, you know, that's now traveling around. The bunny boiler? Yeah, the bunny boiler. Exactly. The little girl who gives him the good news all day.

18:27I want someone to give him like, even with the questions of the reporters, first of all, let me just wrap this up, this Megyn Kelly thing. I had never heard that, and I'm glad you showed it to me because I love to hear things about myself. But they matter to me as much as they matter to you. You know what I mean? Right. Anything negative that is said about me only matters if I believe it's true. Right. So I know what's up. And when they use women like me who are so representative of so many women, you know what I mean? We're living in a time where so many women are like, wait, maybe we don't have to get married or maybe we don't have to have a kid.

19:09Like, actually, let's just, it's a fucking pain in the ass raising a kid and robbing me of 20 years, you know? If you really want one, of course, go get one. But if you don't, don't think you have to do it. Right. Like, and everyone who's married, and I know you know this, like, everyone who's married that gets divorced is like, I will never, if I, or if I get divorced, I will never fucking bother with that again. Right. You know what I mean? I get so much more joy out of not being in a relationship than I've ever had from any of my loves. It's just too much for me. That's not where I shine. But don't you think the story to this is that there's something that you have in common with a Zoran Mamdani or an Abdul El-Sayed or a Chelsea Handler?

19:57And what it is is you're the antidote to their propaganda. So their propaganda is that women are not happy or purposeful or useful unless they're in service of a man and they need us. And then here's Chelsea Handler. Doesn't need a man. Makes a shit ton of money. Works her ass off. Fucks for sport. Enjoys herself. And it's like, oh, shit. We can't get that information out there. Zoran Mamdani. They want everyone to believe that he and Abdullah al-Sayed are Muslim jihadist terrorists. because the propaganda that Israel uses is that they're the good guys and anybody that is a Muslim is this horrible, awful person.

20:36And they're the antidote to that. And that's why there's so much of a reaction to people that are the antidote to this establishment, patriarchal, Judeo-Christian bullshit propaganda. Yeah. And look what it's led to. Look where we are in this world. With the convergence of what's happening in the climate. Okay. We have one of the only political parties in the world next to Syria, which was, uh, that believes that denies climate change. We're the only people in the world, North Korea believes in climate change.

21:11Um, and between that, the convergence of that AI, right? No guardrails on what's probably going to be, you know, or could likely be the end of the world. And it seemed seemingly so by every smart person I respect is scared to death now of how out of the bag the cat has, or, you know, has gotten like it's COVID basically it's out. Like we can't put it back in the box yet or ever maybe. And the convergence of all of those three, like that's where we are based on white male patriarchy. That's what has led us to capitalism being such a boon and turning into an oligarchy for, you know, the, I don't know, 40 richest men in the world or, you know, probably more than that.

21:57But it's weird when you meet a billionaire, you start to meet them all. You know, they start to like smell like I've met a couple of billionaires, you know, a few years ago. And then I started meeting more and more and more. And I was like, wait, wait, I'm running in the wrong circles. Like, this is not my group. You know, I need to keep my fucking feet on the ground. Are you a billionaire magnet? No. I don't want to be. I don't want to be. I don't want to be a billionaire magnet because I see what that is. But back to what they are espousing is what got us in this mess in the first place. Things are completely out of control and off the rails because of this system.

22:35Yeah. So like that, we tried it, you guys, this system doesn't work. Are you happy about AI? Are you happy about climate change? Are you happy about all of this, not having healthcare? Only men could design a system like that. So everything that Megyn Kelly talks about, she like her, you know, nothing else lands because she's so misguided. And what she stands for is so detrimental, not only to the world and our country, well, and to the world now, but to her. Exactly. It's crazy. This is one of my favorite sayings. Women that carry the water for the patriarchy are the first to drown. And so you have all of these women that are propping up Trump in this fascist takeover, and they've ridden the shoulders of all of the brave feminists and women's rights activists that fought the way for us to have a credit card, for you to be some slutty, independent, unmarried woman and proud of it, by God, and everybody embracing that.

23:31They ride the shoulders of that movement. And then they stand there with that privilege and then beat down the very movement that got them the microphone that they have. And it's called a Clarence Thomas. You get in, you get in through all the programs that are here to benefit black people. And then you shut all of the you shut the door on your way in. Here, I want to play you a clip from Katie Miller's podcast, which I also refer to as Fireside Chats with Nazis. And, of course, you know, she is the wife of unfuckable Stephen Miller, who we've decided on this podcast is more unfuckable than Ted Cruz.

24:04Well, what about Lindsey Graham alive, Ted Cruz, or Stephen Miller? The most unfuckable? Yeah. You got to go Stephen Miller. Okay. I'm going to try and get you to choose Stephen Miller. Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg. Well, I guess that would be easy to do. Okay. Elon Musk is not an easy person to have sex with. Elon Musk, Stephen Miller, or Hitler if he were still alive. God damn it. That is diabolical. Okay. Well, you have to think about it. Which one is the most unfuckable or which one would I fuck? If you want to come to Tampa, you need to answer this question.

24:47I mean. Which one? Would I fuck? I mean, it's hard to know Hitler now. I'm going to take Elon. Oh, interesting. Out of those three. Yeah, I guess that is the right choice. Elon. I think I'd do Elon. Okay. But here is Katie Miller. Let's get back to Ava Braun. Can't believe someone married her. The Journal pointed out that now women outnumber men in the workforce. And so before we get to, which I think is terrible, by the way, it's insane. Yeah, of course. I mean, this is a lot of Republicans like to talk about how great it is that the female unemployment rate is the lowest ever. This is one area where I break with my fellow Republicans.

25:22I say, why is that necessarily a good thing. I mean, maybe for some women, but the fact that women like have to go to the widget factory to do spreadsheets, I don't know. She is sitting there talking about women not having jobs at her job. I know. At her job, promoting for women to not have a job at her job. I know. This is like me saying, nobody do podcasts anymore. Podcasts need to be outlawed. They need to be illegal. Exactly. And you need to boycott stand-up comedy. I mean, I don't know how what happened. Like, don't you just want to know? I mean, I kind of do want to know, and then I kind of don't want to know what happens in their homes, like what the conversations are, like their hatred.

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26:11I mean, also J.D. Vance's wife, you know, like, what is she? How can you sit there with a man that speaks about all of these things and then you're married to him? Well, it gets worse for Usha. Her husband, the little smoky-eyed sociopath, Miss Pris Pants, he refused to condemn a Nazi racist group chat. She's an Indian woman. Their children are mixed race. These MAGA men are so castrated. They cannot defend their wives. Ted Cruz, famously, Donald Trump called Heidi Cruz ugly. Three months later, Ted Cruz, God bless Donald Trump. I mean, there's just no principle, no integrity. And no agency. None.

27:00They have no agency. That's a very good point. So that, you know, like, how could you ever be with a man that allowed your somewhat, like, how could, I've thought about Ted Cruz's wife so many times after that, more so than these other two losers' wives, because how could you, like, you have children together. You let your, the father of your children cozy up to the man who spoke to you that way. Like, talk about being married to a snake, you know? I mean, and he's rudderless. He's so gross, Ted Cruz. He's not even a snake because a snake can bite. He doesn't even. Would you rather fuck Ted or Steven?

27:39Oh, that's a good one. Ted or Steven or Elon. Well, you already chose Elon. You obviously have a crush on him. Ted or Elon? No, Steven. Steven or Elon or Steven or Ted? Steven or Ted? Steven I feel like I could physically take. Do you know what I mean? I feel like I could probably beat him up. I'm pretty strong. Yeah. And he seems pretty weak. Otherwise, he wouldn't be acting this way. So Ted Cruz is unforgivable physically to me. I just, that face, that everything about him is repulsive and repugnant. Stephen Miller, the same thing, but he's like a little boy. Something happened to him. Something bad happened to him for him to be acting this way.

28:20And there's a chance that I could take him physically and possibly end his life. And injure him sexually. In a sexual situation. In a sexual scenario. Yeah. Okay. So this regime, they go after comedians first. And this is nothing unique or new about autocrats or authoritarians. The very first people they target are comedians because they're thin-skinned, neutered, submissive, fragile ego people. And so they have been going after Jimmy Kimmel. And now they're going after people in Hollywood like Mark Ruffalo. And Mark Ruffalo has been speaking out passionately. He's been on this podcast about the Paramount Warner Brothers merger.

29:12And he truthfully linked Larry and David Ellison to giving the IDF money. And he stated that as fact. The Ellison family has funded the genocide. And they funded the IDF during the act of genocide. And now there's been this big backlash, Mark Ruffalo, because he's speaking out and they've called him an anti-Semite. Let's pop this up. So over 170 Jewish entertainment figures have signed an open letter defending Mark Ruffalo after Paramount accused him of fueling anti-Semitic tropes. Ruffalo spoke out against the Paramount-Warner brothers merger and said the Ellison family was complicit in the genocide against Palestinians.

29:53And I think all of us in a very rapid time and over the course of since Kamala, for me personally, since Kamala's defeat, my opinions and my knowledge about this changed really rapidly in real time. And I evolved dramatically. And so I'm curious if your personal stance on this issue, which seems to be really big in every political race we have, has evolved as so many other Americans has on the Israel issue. We're just going to switch it to talk about something light, Chelsea. Yeah, yes, of course, of course, of course, it has evolved. It has evolved. My position on Netanyahu has absolutely, I mean, I never thought Netanyahu was a great guy anyway, when he stole, you know, his basic, you know, he was about to go to jail, and then cozied up to this right wing coalition in the Knesset.

30:41And luckily, there's going to be another election by October 27, they have to call an election in Israel. But also most and so my evolution. Yes, I think Netanyahu is a war criminal. Yes, what has transpired is absolutely disgusting. This is unacceptable. It's not retaliatory. This is we've taken it to a new level. They want to pulverize Gaza. They have pulverized Gaza. What's happening there is absolutely a human rights issue. This is not you know, this is about him resting power. I believe that. I believe that Netanyahu is, should, and a lot of Israelis believe that. And so I think, you know, everyone has weaponized the idea of Zionism, meaning that you're anti-Israel.

31:26Most Jews I know, and listen, there are a lot of exceptions because there's a lot of Jews that are very, you know, the Jews that hate Mamdani, even though he's done lots of wonderful things. He, you know, there's Jews that hate every, all of these people because they said they've criticized Israel. I don't conflate a criticism with Israel as being anti-Semitic, but I can't also deny that there is a ton of anti-Semitism. There is, and there always has been. But Netanyahu's not fucking helping that. You know, he's the problem. He's the reason anti-Semitism has risen because of his response to this and because of his, you know, lack of ability to take a look at how does this affect Jews worldwide?

32:09How does his attack and retaliation, in quotes, affect the Jews worldwide? And it's not positive. So I am sympathetic to people who, you know, want to get rid of him. I definitely want him out. he's worse than Trump because he's smarter than Trump. Yeah. You know? But do I, I'm not an anti, I'm not anti-Israel either. I'm anti the government of Israel. This government sucks. Yeah. And they're terrible. And it's a, and he's a war criminal. And you think, this is something that's been really weird for me because where I grew up in Oklahoma. And I don't think, I just also, sorry to interrupt you.

32:48I just also, Mark Ruffalo is not an anti-Semite. I don't believe that either. I don't believe, like when this happened, I had a big, I was in the United States. part of big Jewish groups that were sending me all this stuff, this propaganda, this Hamas propaganda, which they have a propaganda machine too. Israel also has a propaganda machine. Everybody's got a propaganda machine. Go online. You know what I mean? But everyone was sending me all this stuff of like foreshadowing what was going to happen and how people were going to start speaking about Israel and this is what's going to happen next.

33:16And it was kind of accurate. It's kind of what happens. Exactly. But I don't think Mark Ruffalo is anti-Semitic, I think he's standing up for something that he believes in. And I admire that. I don't all of a sudden think, you know, like a Hannah Einbinder is an anti-Semite. And I think that's a really narrow way to look at things. So I just wanted to say that, that, you know, I support him. Yeah, I do too. I think it's, from my vantage point, if you grow up in New York or LA or you live in New York or LA, there's a lot more Jewish people in those cities and you're a lot more fully versed on it.

33:56Where I come from in the middle of the country, there's teeny, in Oklahoma City, teeny tiny small Jewish community. Nobody really knows where Palestine is or the West Bank or Israel. Nobody really gives a shit. Our governments are trying to take away health care and abortion rights, et cetera. As I look at this whole issue, it's fascinating to me because you can criticize any government anytime, anywhere. Like I criticize the United States of America. I criticize this government. And I want everybody else to criticize them because it's objectively bad. There's no backlash of that to somehow me being attached with that criticism with some form of bigotry.

34:40It's just, you know, it's speech. It's free speech and saying, I criticize this, this, this, this. The same if you criticize France or Russia or North Korea or any of them. But when you get to Israel, criticizing them is a minefield. And sometimes I'm like, God, it's another story about this. And I don't want to step into it because I know there's a bunch of people who are going to be like, you're an anti-Semite, Jennifer. And there's a bunch of people that are going to be this way. And then, you know, like you said, Jews are not a monolith. There's a lot of people in New York that I know that are completely, you know, I would say anti-Zionist Jews.

35:15And they very much love their Judaism. They love their identity. But they're completely different. And then they get called self-hating Jews. I feel like this topic is such a minefield. It is. It's just not. It's an unwinnable conversation. Not that you have to win conversations. It's not about that. But they've weaponized the word Zionist. It used to mean that you believed Israel had a right to exist. now it means that you believe in genocide or you support genocide. That's not what a Zionist used to mean. That is a new definition of a Zionist. And I know people in Israel that hate Netanyahu.

35:50They hate the way this is going. They hate what he's done to Gaza. I've been there. I've been to Ramallah. I've been to the West Bank. I've been to these places. I interviewed Shimon Perez years ago for one of my Netflix documentaries. And I saw it in real life, like that they're living behind a fence. I went and met with the mayor of Ramallah at the time, this woman, and she was, it was awful what I saw. I was like, how is this working? What are these chain link fences like, and the IDF patrolling both sides. And you know, you're fed a lot of stuff as a Jewish person, which many Jews have spoken about.

36:23And what I hate the most, or one of the things that I find And so disturbing is the argument of when we talk about anti-Semitism, which is a huge issue, people want to say, well, they don't care about what's happening in Darfur. They don't care about Sudan. There's genocides happening there. Look over there. Why isn't anybody saying anything about that? As if that's a valid argument to what's happening with Israel and Gaza. That's the anti-Semitic. That's one of the anti-Semitism arguments. Why? They only care when it's Jews. They only care when it's Jews defending themselves. So when you talk about this issue, it's so complex in so many ugly areas and in so many ugly ways instead of a unification.

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37:44Vaccination may not protect all recipients. Sponsored by GSK. When I am on Instagram, and you know how if you follow somebody, it'll show like this person likes this. And so I get fed my algorithm a lot of stuff about Palestinian suffering. Yeah. And you always, you know, whatever the post is, I always see Chelsea Handler likes this. You seem very, at least online, very compassionate. That's weird because I blocked you on social media. I don't know why you would be showing up. It's my Finsta. I think my finsta my fake this is right after her husband left the room she reveals she has a finsta but I see you very because I know you privately offline too and you're such a compassionate person and you care so deeply about human rights and that's what I love so much about you're hilarious and hot and all that stuff thank you but underneath you really care passionately about human rights and I know that you know this is such a minefield to walk through, but we all still talk about it from a position of relative safety.

38:49I mean, we're still living this fascist regime, but we're white women in America and wealthy and et cetera. And when I think about the suffering going on over there and these little kids and how they were targeted, and then a recent story came out that Benjamin Netanyahu knew, this is confirmed, this came out from Hertz, the Israeli paper, that they told him they're going to attack. And he did nothing. He allowed October 7 to happen. And it just continues to go from bad to worse. And I think the reason that people care more about this issue is because their tax dollars are paying for it And not Darfur.

39:31And then you have a politician like the late Lady Graham who serviced Israel more than he did the people of South Carolina. And as a person that came from middle America, the hyper fixation on helping Israel. I mean, if you live in Oklahoma City, you live in some flower city, you're like, okay, what about us? Like, we got a lot of shit going on here. Infrastructure, schools closing, hospitals, blah, blah, blah. And so I can see how, when you know historically about anti-Semitism and how targeted and marginalized Jewish people have been, the need to feel, you know, protective. But as I look at it, and I didn't really know that much about it until recently.

40:17Yeah, I grew up, I remember being in Hebrew school and you would learn about, you know, the way it was framed in a childlike way. And as I grew up and learned more about it is, you know, Israel is the democracy of the Middle East. It's the only democracy. It's this little piece of land and everyone else around it hates it. And everyone's going to attack it. And there's always, and historically that is what has happened. And that it's our last line of defense against that whole region of people who are not like-minded, who don't have democratic values. But what's happening today isn't representative of the democracy or democratic values.

40:58And obviously, maybe that word is expired, has expired, because we're in a quote unquote democracy also here, and that seems to have expired as well. But like you said, you and I, you know, I do care deeply about human rights. I care about human suffering. It's sickening. It's absolutely sickening. And also, you and I, I mean, I won't speak for you, but my life hasn't been impacted directly by any of these policies about President Trump or Netanyahu, other than watching this horror show, you know, on both sides. I think Israel, what's happening in Gaza is a horror show. I think what's happening in America is a horror show.

41:35Two different things, right? But to not pay attention or to not have it impact you, to be so out of touch, I believe that it is mandatory to remain going to the airport no matter how rich you get to keep your fucking feet on the ground. I believe that all these billionaires who lose sight of what is happening, what real people are dealing with, what real people are dealing with when they go to a gas station or they go to a grocery store or they can't fucking get health care or they can't have access to a safe abortion where the mother's life is at risk or any of a million other examples that I could sit here and give you, it does affect me.

42:18It impacts me even though it's not my personal life. So I'm taking a long road to say this, but those people who have a lot of money that don't care about how it's impacting others and are building their bunkers in New Zealand and are saying things like, you know, who don't have a strong opinion about what's happening or are able to look away in the face of human suffering. makes me irate because it is our responsibility when you are gifted with a great life and you make a lot of money and you have an influence or you have a platform, I should say, you do need to be informed and you do have to get your fucking ducks in a row because otherwise you're not even participating in society.

43:08You're not participating. You're in a silo that you've created that could be, you know, you know, like, and then you become one of these people that doesn't have any, you can't relate to human suffering because it doesn't impact you. And you or I could easily just go off and do that. I mean, you've made your living being political, so it would be weird for you, but I could easily just like, I don't want to talk about politics anymore. I'm not doing it. You know, it would be easier for me, you know, that would be nice, but that's also spineless. Yes. And so it is important to have these conversations.

43:41And they are very, you know, people are, it's such an ugly issue, the Israel issue, our political situation. But I'm glad we're talking about it. I am too, because I think about it a lot. And I think about how people that stick their neck out and talk about it get, you know, immediate, like right now, the comment section will be going crazy on YouTube, and who gives a fuck. But I've come up with a lot of like, things that I, after reading about this, that I think helped me understand this more. And when you have a government that the United States and Israel both say, we are bright, shining examples of democracy, but you have policies where you quantify humanness.

44:25These humans are more important than these humans. And these humans - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's disgusting. It breaks you. And then when you have politicians, whether they be Republican or Democratic, that take money for that endgame to quantify humanness, to say these babies are not as important because they're Palestinian, it breaks the whole system. And so once you are dismissive of one group's humanity in this regard, let's say Palestinians, but we can take it to America and talk about black people. We're very dismissive about the humanity of black people over policing of their neighborhoods, et cetera.

45:05Everything after that, all of the fuckery and the immoral shit after that, it's like, yeah, it's a slippery slope. You know, it's like a gateway drug to the harder heads. And so I think America's crime has never been reconciling our issue with the genocide of black people in this country initially through slavery. And then we have basically a two-tier court system. There's still a lot of segregation, so much institutionalized racism still in this country. and Israel's original sin is you can't create a safe space and then kick everybody out of their homeland and expect to be safe forever. I think that there has to be a bigger calling on all of us to call beyond whether somebody's Jewish, Palestinian.

45:58There has to be a humanness. And that's why I like some of these DSA candidates that are popping up all over the U.S. right now because they have this message of universal human rights that's so important to me. Like whether they're trans, somebody's trans, somebody's Palestinian, somebody's Jewish, somebody's black, whatever. We all have to have the same value. And I think that the sin of both of those governments, Israel and the United States, is they don't value universal human rights. Yeah. They say they do, but their policies don't. when people are so anti-democratic socialism, it's like, well, look where capitalism has brought us.

46:37Like, look where we are. Right. This is capitalism gone wrong. Yeah. Now we're going to get killed by robots because there's eight fucking losers that couldn't get laid. That's capitalism. Exactly. So, like, while I understand, I mean, I have so many people in my life, and it's mostly wealthy people that are anti-socialism for obvious reasons. I already share my money with the government. I want my money to be going towards good things. But I'm happy to share. I'm happy to share with everybody to live in a more peaceful world where people are treated equally. Absolutely. So I'm not anti-socialism in the way, or democratic socialism, I should say, in the way that many people are.

47:15I know you're very into, you know, I know you're into it and you're positive about it. I'm DSA curious. Yeah, I'm DSA curious as well. I'm not a stalwart on anything besides human rights. Like, stop it. I have to tell you a story. You're going to appreciate this. Okay, so I have a black woman who opens for me on the road. Her name is Yamanika. And she was at an airport. It was a smaller town, a city. I don't know. I don't remember where exactly, but in the middle of the country somewhere. And we, she got off. We got off to go get our bags at the luggage carousel off of our flight. And I went to the bathroom while she waited for our bags.

47:55And a white woman went up to her and said, what are you doing here? And where did you come from? What city did you fly in from? And she looked at her and said, what?

48:08Don't even talk to me. And this happened while I was in the bathroom. And I know because I called her. She was like, which bag is yours? Which bag is yours? Because she was getting my bag for me. And the woman just said, where are you coming from? What city did you come from? And my friend was like, fuck off. I just got off this flight. She didn't respond to her at all because she's used to this. And I wasn't there in that moment because I would have loved to respond to that. But can you imagine, like when people aren't exposed to that, can you imagine being somebody that is at an airport collecting your luggage, confronting a black person about where they flew in from and making sure that they're getting their luggage.

48:52Like, it's so preposterous when you're up close and personal to that kind of Karen behavior. By the way, I got to play a Karen in a movie yesterday. I did a day roll on a movie, and I got to let my Karen freak flag fly on behalf of black people to show how fucking crazy white women can be. Hopefully it will be viewed that way because that's exactly what it was. But just the, like, that level, like, you really have to see it to believe it. And I've done documentaries about racism or privilege before for Netflix. And when you're talking to a lot of these white women, they really don't believe in racism because they don't see any of it.

49:30They're not exposed to it. It's like being in Oklahoma when if you live in a suburb that doesn't have any black people, they don't believe it because they can't see it. And it's like, it's not like white people are going around looking for racism. You know what I mean? It's like, where can I see it? Where is it happening? So to that story, particularly, it's like, how could you ever I wouldn't even go up to anyone and say that. You know what I mean? America is still, especially in a lot of these red states, still pretty segregated. Atlanta is very, for a red state, it's very, very integrated and great.

50:07But in Oklahoma, there's still so much segregation. And I've just witnessed this kind of shit so many times my whole entire life. That surprises me zero. Okay. So then what tipped you off to, what made you understand how wrong that was. My parents were super progressive. And I just immediately, as you start forming your world outside of the world that you grew up in, like, this shit's just racist. These people are just straight up racist. And I waited tables all through college. And then my awareness of that got worse as my son played basketball, AAU basketball. And he played on like an inner city team, all black kids with a couple of white kids, my son being one of the white ones.

50:52But I just started seeing like, God, they're so, I just think they're so much better. And they were so demeaning, like demeaning to other kids on back, but just really grotesque racism and just really grotesque stuff. And then Trump, it's hard for me to even talk about because I know these people, I've been around these people. And then Trump becoming president, they feel like they can dunk on it now. They feel that much more emboldened by it. They feel so vindicated in the racism. It's just so. It's an embarrassing group to be a part of. Yeah. And I didn't, I mean, these are circles when you're raising kids that you're around that you just know.

51:31And Oklahoma City, I know that 50 % of you in that city are the most beautiful blue dots in a red state, but you're listening to what I'm hearing right now. It's so frustrating being a liberal and a progressive around a bunch of white MAGA racists. That's why I think my listeners that look like, oh, I know exactly what she's talking about. I know these people. You start knowing how they think and how they're going to process stuff because you've just fucking been around it. You've been in this fucking MAGA. I'm cussing too much. You've been in this MAGA incubator. And you know, like, oh, this is the way they're going to think.

52:04This is what's going to happen. Yeah. It's pretty unsavory. And again, it goes back to the kind of the death cough of white male patriarchy, right? Because we're grouped in, women are grouped in with black people and black people are grouped in with gay people and gay and we're all overlapping and one big Venn diagram of, you know, underlings, like we're all under and various forms. You know, it's not like white women have the same experience as a black woman. That's not fair to say at all. So, but it's also part of that. It's like, it just feels like the air is leaving the balloon, so to speak.

52:44you know, the diaper is crashing because these policies aren't popular. They're not working. They're pretending they're working, but they're not popular. Nobody likes ICE. Nobody likes watching that except for Stephen Miller. You know, nobody wants to see families ripped apart or parents that are working here that are, have been here for 20 years that have jobs and are picking up their kids from school to see them dragged off by a bunch of thugs who don't even have any, you know, any experience working in any sort of, you know, half of them are, you know, probably January 6th. And it's just, none of it's popular, none of it is right, and none of it is modern.

53:22You know, they're taking us back. We've never had this country that we're talking about. You know, America is an ideal, right? It's an experiment. And hopefully that experiment isn't over so we can reach an ideal beyond the one we're living in, because I can't look at this in a short view, because then I just get so wrapped up and so angry and irate, and I'm like, well, we're all dying anyway, which is pretty much how I think most of the day. I'm like, may as well have a good time and have another drink because we're all going to, it's all going to fucking go to shit. But, but I like to think of it, you know, like Jennifer Cox Richardson talks about it, you know, with a longer lens and to just be like, okay, this is a period of time that is very, very difficult for a lot of people.

54:07And it's really ugly. And this is not the end of our story. This is part of our story, part of our ugly story. Yeah. And I think that I always try to remind my listeners, and I know you and I've texted about this, about the midterms and how important the midterms are. And a lot that's going on right now with issues we talk about, hand-wringing in the Democratic Party about people supporting this, this, taking super PAC money, et cetera. I think those conversations are healthy. I think they're necessary. I think they're a symptom of a good democracy. Right now, in the 50 days leading up to the midterms, I just keep encouraging my listeners, number one, make sure you're registered.

54:51Number two, have a plan to vote in person. If you know old people, people that look like they're immigrants, sound like they're immigrants, go vote with them because the turnout has to be too big to rig. Our number one unifying cause right now has to be defeat fascism. We can get precious and detailed over other things. And primary candidates that didn't deliver for us, but we have to be unified in defeating these people because MAGA is a death cult. All of their policies lead to death. Yeah. I mean, these guys, all these, like talk about death, these guys, these tech guys, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, these guys, the way they talk about, they know that AI will ruin the world or most likely has the ability to do so.

55:43And they're okay with that. I know. I know. I shouldn't laugh at it. It's the most nefarious. They want horrible, like it's the most group, it's the biggest group of evil. It's so, everything is evil. Take away health care. Take away women's rights. Take away jobs. Get rid of black people. Get rid of immigrants. Deport people in chains. Make sure they're dying in these concentration camps that we're living in. Like, I keep waiting. I'm like, are we going to all just go on strike? And I can't say something like that because people are like, well, it's easy for you to go on strike. But I'm like, are we going to have a national?

56:17Aren't we just going to say, like, the midterms are one thing, but why aren't we all in the fucking streets? Why aren't we in the streets until this is over? And, you know, I know people can't leave their jobs and they can't take a day off and they don't have that ability. But I can't believe that we're even waiting for the midterms to make that kind of statement. You know, I can't believe people are just allowing people to go live in detention centers. 70 % of people in detention centers have no criminal record. We have a private prison system where the more people you put into these prisons, the more money these guys make.

56:56They're all connected. Like, how do, you know, and we're just going to work. And innocent people are in what? I mean, I just can't believe we're letting this happen. No, I think that we all, I think you just really put into perfect words what we all think all the time. Like, shouldn't we be doing more? And the problem is so many people capitulated early to this guy, and it changed the trajectory completely. And Trump 1.0, the elites didn't go kiss ass. The corporations kind of held the line, and they were part of the resistance. But elections have a tricky way of reconciling things. And for me personally, and for all of our listeners here, the message that I once sent with the midterms is not just to hurt Trump's ego personally and narcissistically injure him, which I very much enjoy.

57:46It is also to send a message to all of the tech titans and industry leaders who bent the knee against their country and against their customer base, and bent the knee to a guy who is incompetent, not smart. Trump doesn't give a fuck about America. He doesn't give a fuck about his supporters. And the corrupt Supreme Court, because I think that we need to get as many Democrats in there as possible because we cannot go back. We cannot go back to Joe Biden's America. No, no, no, no. This is going to change the incubated this. Right, right. We need oversight in the Supreme Court. We need politicians that are not taking PAC money.

58:32We need to get rid of PAC money. We have to get rid of Citizens United. We have to get, you know, everything's a pendulum, right? We got Trump theoretically because we got Obama. We got Roe v. Wade because we had the Me Too movement, you know, in my opinion. I mean, like, everything is a pendulum and everything is a referendum. Like, then guess what? Guess what's coming, people? You know, get ready because we are going to take fucking money out of politics. We are. It's disgusting. I mean, remember when there were a couple billionaires? Now we have a trillionaire every other week. It depends, you know, what the stock price is.

59:03But like, remember when billionaire was a big deal? The amount of money that is circulating? It just keeps getting bigger and bigger. I remember when I was younger, a millionaire was like a huge fucking deal. Yes, a millionaire. What would you do? That's what I meant. That's not a billionaire. A millionaire. Thank you. Thank you for correction. But yes, yes, it's fucking nuts. Give us some hopium. I'm on a comedy tour. Yes, tell us. To wrap this very light conversation up. Yes. I'm on the High and Mighty tour I'm about to film my next special At the end of this tour I'm filming it in Vancouver But I'm going to be in New York I'm going to be on September 25th I don't know when this is coming out But you can go to ChelseaHandler.com There's lots of cities I'm coming to I'm coming to lots of different red cities also Places like Philadelphia Well, that's not a red city But I'm coming to Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Spokane Lots of different places So you get your tickets to that And my whole thesis And the reason I am enjoying this tour in the way that I am is because it is an antidote to dealing with what is happening.

1:00:09And not only for my audience, for me, because it is a reminder about humanity. It is a reminder when I stand on stage and I look out and see two strangers that have never met that are laughing next to each other and rubbing shoulders. and it is a reminder of the joyfulness and that there still is. Like people are giving up and they are losing hope and I just am not ready to do that. I am not going to be hopeless. I'm going to be hopeful. And my hope with every time I do a show is to infuse every single person there with the hopefulness that I feel and the humanity that I feel and joyous laughter and microdosing.

1:00:50Which means high and mighty. high and mighty and so Chelsea thank you so much oh yes I'm so happy you're doing all this stuff we're gonna go look at an apartment together me and her husband right now it's true we are alright bye

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