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IHIP News Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title
MAGA Pushes Oklahoma University to Punish Trans Professor Over Bible-Based Essay Fail
Hosts
- Jennifer Welch
- Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Podcast Description
A comedic and progressive take on political news from the heart of a red state.
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Episode Overview
In this episode, the hosts discuss a controversial incident at the University of Oklahoma (OU) involving a student's essay about gender that led to criticism of a transgender professor, Dr. Karine Carr, and a subsequent response from the university administration. The conversation critiques the influence of right-wing organizations and reflects on the implications for academic integrity and freedom.
Key Themes
- Political Climate in Oklahoma:
- Dominance of Republican leadership for nearly two decades.
- Critique of Christian nationalism and its impact on educational standards.
- The Student's Essay Incident:
- A student received an F on an assignment for failing to provide empirical evidence, relying solely on personal belief and biblical references.
- The essay was criticized for its reasoning and lack of academic rigor.
- Response from Turning Point USA:
- After receiving an F, the student turned to Turning Point USA, which framed her as a hero battling against the establishment.
- The hosts argue that the organization seeks to undermine academic integrity, particularly targeting professors with progressive views.
- University of Oklahoma's Reaction:
- The university initiated a review process in response to the student's claims of discrimination against her religious beliefs.
- The hosts criticize the university for placing the professor on administrative leave, suggesting it undermines academic standards.
- Cultural and Religious Critique:
- Discussion on the intersection of religious beliefs and academic expectations.
- The hosts argue that personal beliefs should not interfere with scientific inquiry and education.
- Long-Term Implications:
- Concern over the potential for institutions to capitulate to pressure from organizations like Turning Point USA.
- The risk of perpetuating ignorance and hindering future generations' understanding of science and critical thinking.
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Key Takeaways
- Academic Integrity Matters: Assignments in scientific courses should be grounded in empirical evidence, irrespective of personal beliefs.
- Oklahoma's Political Landscape: The state's political environment has fostered a culture that may inhibit progressive thought in educational settings.
- Turning Point USA's Role: The organization is seen as exploiting academic failures to further a political agenda rather than promoting genuine discourse.
- University's Responsibility: Educational institutions have a duty to uphold academic standards and support faculty in teaching these standards, regardless of external pressures.
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Concluding Thoughts
The hosts express dissatisfaction with the university's handling of the situation, calling for a reaffirmation of academic rigor and a rejection of political pressures that undermine education. They urge students and faculty alike to stand firm on principles of evidence-based learning and to challenge narratives that prioritize religious beliefs over scientific understanding.
Closing Call-to-Action
- Listeners are encouraged to support the hosts' work through their book, Substack, and merchandise, as well as to engage with the ongoing discussions surrounding education and political influence in academic settings.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05Our home state is really insane. There's a lot of great things about it. For almost 20 years now, they have had a Republican governor, Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican Supreme Court. So anybody in Oklahoma, if you don't like the path that your life is going, you have no one to blame except for a Republican, Republican super majorities. And the stupidity and ignorance trickles down from the governor who dedicated every square inch of the state to Jesus Christ. And after these said dedications, our state ranking continues to plummet after the blessing and dedication. And the electorate gets dumber and dumber and dumber.
0:51And you have a basic Christian nationalist state. And here is the type of person that the state of Oklahoma is producing. There's a student, pop this up. There's an OU student, University of Oklahoma, and she wrote an assignment about gender. All right. And basically, she has a transgender professor and she writes an entire essay and doesn't quote any sort of evidence, only her opinion about the Bible. And then she gets an F, as she should have. She failed her assignment. and then she cries to Turning Point USA because her professor is trans and of course they completely lap it up. And so the Turning Point USA OU puts out a post and says, for a psychology course at the University of Oklahoma, Samantha Fulnicki was asked to write a 650 word essay reacting to an article about how people are perceived based on societal expectations of gender.
1:59Dr. Karine Carr responds to this turning point, says everybody's jumping on the prose, but as a piece of scientific writing, the reasoning level of the essay is extremely bad too. So her essay ends up getting published. These are some of the sentences from this failed OU student. She writes, women naturally want to do things because God has created us with those womanly desires in our hearts. And Dr. Kareem Karr says a sentence like this is circular and literally means nothing. Imagine going to Wikipedia to learn about cats only for the cat behavior section to read. Cats want to do cat things because God has created them with catly desires in their heart.
2:50Her whole entire essay reads like this. All of it reads like this. This is a religious fanatic. This girl has been indoctrinated by her parents, probably went to some batshit school or a Oklahoma public school where now you can have the Ten Commandments, Trump Bibles, all of this shit. And they're continuing to enable her stupidity. This is a complete embarrassment for this girl, for her family, for anybody who taught her anything prior to this. Well, but in her family, and by Turning Point USA logic, she's a hero because she's going up against the norm. But here's the deal. In a scientific paper, if you don't quote empirical sources, it's just your opinion.
3:36And you would get flunked on that even if you said if you use like any other source like the Koran or whatever it is, it's embarrassing for the University of Oklahoma. Okay, so here is some more analysis on her essay. there are no citations from the bible no references to past theological works no supporting scholarly interpretations of any relevant passages no definitions of concepts like gender examples and relies on personal opinion and then this girl asked turning point is anyone at your organization literate? And I would say the answer to that is no. Turning Point USA is a disaster. You've got their whole thing before Charlie Kirk was murdered is to go onto college campuses and find professors that they believe are teaching facts and put them on a list and torture them.
4:45And so this whole thing, this girl, whatever her name is that wrote this is so humiliating for her. The professor responds to the girl. And here is what the professor writes as to why she made an F. And I want to note that Turning Point USA screenshots the professor's response and puts trans professors comment. Okay. They want to bully this professor and demean her and say, she's less intelligent because she's trans, which is utter bullshit. And so the professor says, please note that I am not deducting points because you have certain beliefs, but instead I'm deducting point for you posting a reaction, a paper that does not answer the questions for this assignment, contradicts itself, heavily uses personal ideology over empirical evidence in a scientific class, and is at times offensive.
5:41While you are entitled to your own personal beliefs, there is an appropriate time or place to implement them in your reflections. I encourage all students to question or challenge the course material with other empirical findings or testable hypotheses, but using your own personal beliefs to argue against the findings of not only this article, But the findings of countless articles across psychology, biology, sociology, et cetera, is not best practice. This professor goes on and gives example after example, gives a very spirited response as to why she failed, because she thinks the Bible is literal.
6:23And you guys, she says in this, she says that God didn't want Adam to be lonely. so he created Eve and she refers to women as the helper. She should get an F. She should get an F. She should absolutely get an F. And I'm shocked that she even made it into college. But here's where this gets so devastating. All right. She's a nut. She got an F. She should have gotten an F. Of course, Turning Point USA, who doesn't give a shit about people, only cares about keeping people dumb and knocked up so that they can have their white nationalist jizz fest. That's all they care about. The universities have got to start standing up to Donald Trump.
7:13And the University of Oklahoma, their response to this is so devastating, so moronic, so cowardice. I can't hardly even take it. Kylie popped this up. The University of Oklahoma has a response to this whole thing. The University of Oklahoma takes seriously concerns involving First Amendment rights, certainly including religious freedoms. Upon receiving notice from the student on the grading of an assignment, the university immediately began a full review of the situation and has acted swiftly to address the matter. First, the college acted immediately to address the academic issue raised by the student.
7:53College leaders contacted her on the day of her letter, was received, and have maintained regular communication throughout the process. As previously stated, a formal grade appeals process was conducted. The process resulted in steps to ensure no academic harm to the student from the graded assignment. Second, the student reported filing a claim of illegal discrimination based on religious beliefs to the appropriate university office. OU has a clear process for reviewing such claims, and it has been activated. The graduate student instructor has been placed on administrative leave pending the finalization of this process to ensure fairness.
8:33In the process, a full-time professor is serving as the course instructor for the remainder of the semester. OU remains firmly committed to fairness, respect, and protecting every student's right to express sincerely held religious beliefs. Okay, I went to the University of Oklahoma. Your religious beliefs have no place in a science classroom. Like you get to have them all day long. I am embarrassed that they did this. They should have said, you did not give the appropriate requirements for this assignment. I'm sorry. I'm sorry you feel like it's a violation, but you have to follow the rules in this class for the assignment.
9:08Swing for the fences on your religious beliefs. It is devastating to me because now everybody at the University of Oklahoma is viewed in the lens of nut balls that, you know, as long as you cite religion and religious discrimination, even though you failed an assignment based on the assignment requirements, it's a joke. The whole thing is a joke. They just tanked any credibility that the University of Oklahoma would have as being a serious university. Joe Harris is a friend of mine. He's the president of the University of Oklahoma. I like him and I respect him. This is an absolute fumble. You just took any credibility that the University of Oklahoma has, Joe, and you wadded it up and you put it in the trash can with Liberty University.
9:56Not everything in the state of Oklahoma has to be a heaping pile of dog shit. It just doesn't have to be. You can have people in that state that stand up for facts, for for following rules, for following instructions, but for this girl to come up with this worldview and for nobody along the way to say, these are opinions not supported by evidence. And when you get to a school like the University of Oklahoma, we are evidence and fact-based. It is abuse. It is institutionalized codependency and abuse to this student. And it's further brand damaging to our state. It is so horrible that the university put this professor who wrote a very thoughtful and mindful response as to why this girl got an F and expelled it out for her.
10:55That is the tough love that sadly has to happen for so many kids that grow up in Oklahoma who get completely indoctrinated and radicalized into this crazy, crazy Christian, white Christian evangelicalism. And then they get out in the real world. And that's where professors, this professor very empathetically told this young lady, you can have these opinions. Those are fine. I challenge you to challenge the article, but you have to do it with empirical evidence. For the university to act like somehow this is religious discrimination is insane. I challenge every student at the University of Oklahoma, all at the same time, to read the book of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and then write your responses to any assignment regarding this and then claim religious discrimination.
11:51or write a response from a satanic book and then claim religious discrimination. It is going to take the students at the University of Oklahoma in mass responding appropriately because Joe Harris, you're my friend. I love you. We play cardio tennis together when I'm an OKC. This is an L. This is a fumble. This is embarrassing. The girl deserved an F and you should stand with your trans professor. And whether she's trans or not is irrelevant. The professor was mindful, thoughtful, and actually provided this young girl with an assist to help her with everyday life. And I imagine if this girl hadn't gone to Turning Point USA and had gone to the professor and said, this is all I've ever been taught in my life.
12:38Can I have another crack at the assignment? I imagine that she probably would have gotten that. And so this is just such a mess by the University of Oklahoma, by the Board of Regents at that school. And I implore every student at the University of Oklahoma, go find Greek mythology, Satanism, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and start writing everything based on those books. And everybody get an F. And then everybody claim, send it to Turning Point USA, send it to the Board of Regents, send it to Joe Harris and claim religious discrimination. This is not a precedent that can be sustained. And in fact, I believe that you are piling onto the abuse, the religious abuse that young girl has suffered her whole life.
13:29And at some point, somebody needs to sit down and tell her the truth. At some point, somebody needs to tell the girl the truth. And if universities aren't going to do it, then who is? You guys, I recently upgraded my entire security system and I went with SimpliSafe because the number one reason is it's proactive. Traditional systems react after the break-in. SimpliSafe can help stop a crime before it starts. That's because SimpliSafe keeps your home safe with a double layer of defense. First, AI cameras detect potential threats and then live agents confront them while they're still outside your home before they've had a chance to damage, telling them they're on camera and that the police will be dispatched if they don't leave.
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15:12And this is because facts have a liberal bias, period. The Bible and its conservatism and women being helpers and God making women out of a rib in the Garden of Eden is bullshit. It did not happen. And you have to tell these kids the truth. You have to say, you can believe that, but you can't prove that. And here's what we can prove. And this is the way science works. And this is why you have access to healthcare that we know works because of research and the valuing of facts. So this girl, Her parents let her down. Her church let her down. Her high school let her down. Her peers let her down.
15:59The only good example in this girl's life thus far has been that professor. She's the only person that actually offered to help this girl have a snowball's chance in hell at being a normal fucking person and having a normal life. The University of Oklahoma should have had that professor's back. Shame on them. That is so devastating. And you're just going to go the ways of being a laughing stock that everybody thinks that state is. And it makes me so sad because there's so many great blue dots. There's so many great purple dots in that state that see the insanity. And the University of Oklahoma, you totally fumbled the bag on this.
16:38Well, and you look at it. If this professor was a biological white male, would this death step have occurred? Or is this singled out because the professor is trans? And I agree with you. Had this been from Hinduism, Buddhism, we wouldn't be talking about this because Turning Point USA doesn't give a shit about religious freedom. They care about Christian freedom. And I agree, the University of Oklahoma cannot keep this precedent going. They cannot. Well, and they think, I will say that even I think if it was a white male professor, the same thing still would have happened because these people claim while they are the oppressors, while they are weaponizing their faith to erode civil liberties, humanity and personhood from other people, any sort of criticism of religion, of Christianity, these people have stage five meltdowns.
17:30And honestly, that's the sign of a cult. If you cannot apply critical thinking to group think without getting all your panties in a water ballot, you're in a cult. And so white evangelical Christianity, from my experience growing up around, it seems to be focused on one thing, controlling sex. You have this little girl, this OU student, I guarantee you one of her biggest things in life as being a virgin, not being a good person, not helping the poor, not helping the sick and not understanding how to be a better citizen in a community that cooperates and compromises. It is her virginity. That is the thing that they teach them.
18:12And that's why they're so wound up about the genitals of that professor. That's why they're so wound up about gay people doing gay stuff because they are the part that it is a cult. White Christian evangelicalism is a cult that has massive sexual damage that wants to control the sex lives of everybody surrounding them. And we're all fucking getting sucked down with them. And it just makes me so mad that our home state and the University of Oklahoma is caving to Turning Point USA, a racist, white supremacist, anti-education organization that you are giving them more power than what you know is right.
18:55And that is just so devastating. And one of the offshoots of this, uh, capitulation, mass capitulation to these ignorant fascists. And if our institutions do not hold up, this is going to be generations of generations of generations of mean dipshits. And that poor girl who thinks she's a helper, university of Oklahoma, do you think you're helping her? No, you just damaged her even more and you should have been a stop for her. Somebody should have pulled her aside and explained to her as an adult, this is not the way it works. You can believe it, but there's no proof that you're a man's quote helper.
19:34All right. That's all we have for this episode. Buy our book. Life is a lazy Susan of shit sandwiches. Subscribe, like, leave us a comment. We'll be back later with more news.
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