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Podcast Title: IHIP News Episode Title: MAGA Using Charlie Kirk's Death to Grift Followers? Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie "Pumps" Sullivan Release Date: [Date not provided]
Episode Overview In this episode, the hosts delve into the aftermath of the murder of conservative figure Charlie Kirk, discussing the exploitation of his death by various members of the MAGA movement. The episode is characterized by a comedic yet critical tone, as the hosts examine how political groups have capitalized on tragedy for fundraising and narrative building.
Key Themes and Discussions
- Murder of Charlie Kirk
- Initial Reactions:
- The hosts express skepticism regarding the narrative surrounding Kirk's murder and the radicalization of the accused, Tyler Robinson.
- They note the absence of credible evidence linking Robinson to a political ideology that aligns with leftist beliefs.
- MAGA Grifting
- Exploitation for Fundraising:
- A significant portion of the episode criticizes how MAGA figures are using Kirk's death to solicit donations and promote products.
- Example: MAGA preacher Shane Vaughn offers "Charlie coins" and free memberships to those who book appointments.
- The hosts highlight the troubling nature of these tactics, suggesting an opportunistic exploitation of grief.
- Sanctimonious Reactions from MAGA Figures
- Religious Comparisons:
- Congressman Troy Nahas compares Kirk to biblical figures, suggesting he would have been the "13th disciple."
- This narrative is met with ridicule from the hosts, who emphasize the absurdity of equating a political figure with martyrdom.
- Mainstream Christian Nationalism
- Cultural Context:
- The hosts discuss how these narratives resonate with certain evangelical communities, framing them as part of a larger problem within American Christianity.
- They assert that many in the MAGA base are engaged in a form of "magical thinking," drawing parallels to historical interpretations of Christianity.
- Calls for Violence and Extremism
- Extreme Responses:
- Joel Weber's call for the public execution of Kirk's alleged murderer is highlighted as indicative of a broader, troubling sentiment among some evangelicals.
- Doug Wilson's statements about exterminating the left following Kirk's murder further exemplify the aggressive rhetoric permeating the MAGA movement.
Key Takeaways
- The episode underscores a pattern of using tragedy for political gain within the MAGA movement.
- The hosts provide a comedic yet critical lens on the absurdities of the narratives constructed around Kirk's death, particularly the blending of political and religious rhetoric.
- There is a strong emphasis on the dangers of mainstreaming extremist views within evangelical circles.
Conclusion The episode concludes with a grim reflection on the state of American political discourse, particularly among evangelical groups. The hosts encourage listeners to remain vigilant about the narratives being propagated and the implications they have for broader societal attitudes.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04All right, in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's murder, number one, I'd like to point out that we've never seen a smoking gun that Tyler Robinson is this radicalized lib. To the contrary, all I've really seen is that he used memes on bullets and his parents were diehard MAGA maniacs steeped in gun culture. And so, of course, cash money, cha-ching, Patel's FBI has been crickets on that case. And then the nauseating, sanctimonious bullshit from all these MAGA people trying to be the thought police and saying we're not sad enough or blah, blah, blah. That's such bullshit. I heard Joe Rogan the other day saying people on the left celebrating his death.
0:46I haven't seen one person celebrate it. No, not one person. It's just such a false narrative. And my super duper choked up. No, but the violence of that, that really bothered me to my core. But what remains of him, his legacy of racism, homophobia and all that shit. No, but let me tell you how bad these people are. The MAGA movement. They're such grifters. Let's play the first video. This is Representative Troy Nahas, and he says that Charlie Kirk would have been, quote, the 13th disciple. Play the clip. Charlie Kirk was a man of faith, first and foremost. He loved his Lord Jesus. He loved his family.
1:30Beautiful wife, beautiful children. Just a remarkable, honorable man that was silenced with this assassin's bullet. I would say if Charlie Kirk lived in the biblical times, he'd have been the 13th disciple. I mispronounced his name. It's Congressman Nels. And okay, here's the guy, this pink arm, just, I mean, this just blow hard. This is just the, these were the white men that everybody cannot stand universally. And they, they, they throw out this overt nauseating religiosity and they grandstand. And at the end of the day, I guarantee you his Google search history is not what he would be proud of.
2:23I don't give a shit because I'm not a prude and I don't sit around and judge people's kinks. That's not a big thing for me, but this guy, I guarantee you were really tiptoeing into some pretty fucked up stuff. Oh, completely. So let's go on. MAGA preacher Shane Vaughn giving away free Charlie coins with your purchase of a one-on-one session. They are grifting off the death of their 13th disciple. To gift you two things. Not only am I going to pay for your annual membership,$199, If you book an appointment tonight for one day this week and answer the phone when they call you, godsmoney.info, go click book an appointment.
3:11When you do that, I'm going to pay your first year membership$199 the next 10 people. But also as a free gift, we just got in the Charlie Kirk coin.
3:31We just got it in. Okay, so here they are grifting off of his death. And immediately, I think everybody knows his wife was sending out fundraising his widow. I mean, very traumatizing thing that she went through. And she's sending out fundraising things for Turning Point. And, you know, I think that their political party is so primed for this because their church, their churches do this. Their churches take Venmo. This guy's some reverend, some MAGA preacher. Trump does this stuff. They're so primed to pay the patriarchy. They're just so primed to do it. And I think they feel some sense of, oh, I'm being a good Christian by doing this.
4:11I'm giving money to the preacher, to the reverend. Moving along, we have two dipshits here, and they compare Charlie Kirk to someone imprisoned and killed by the Nazis and call on the Catholic Church to canonize him. I'm not making this up. Is something beautiful about heroes like Charlie and even more beautiful when they're martyred? When I think of Bonhoeffer, you think, my goodness, this beautiful, brilliant young man murdered by the Nazis. I think it's my favorite saint, Joan of Arc. The British really made a mistake by burning Joan of Arc. If they had left her alive and she'd gotten caught up in the sordid back and forth of French politics, and is there anything more sorted than French politics?
4:56I actually, I'm going to, column I'm going to be working on soon is I'm going to call on the Catholic Church to canonize Charlie Kirk. He wasn't a Catholic, but then neither were the Coptic Christians who were killed by ISIS in Egypt a few years ago and the Catholic Church has recognized them. I think it's time for us to start recognizing people who died for Jesus Christ, even if they didn't happen to attend the same denomination that we do. What the fuck is wrong with these people? I don't know. I'm just sitting here going, what the fuck? This is crazy. Yeah. Crazy town. Yeah. But I mean, this is this stuff, you know, when you think about the, your old Christian school crowd, this, I mean, my proximity to all of that was, is kind of like suburban Oklahoma.
5:45And I guarantee you those people, this is their world. This is the world they live in. They signed documents saying that they will actively demean and be bigoted towards gay people. And they're proud about it. This is something that they're very flagrant about. So it's not that big of a stretch when you see this. And this is what the people that go to these megachurches that send their kids to hate academies. This is their entertainment source. This is the stuff at the end of the day where they put their head on the pillow at night. This is their world. And this world has become mainstream. it's crazy and what did i miss something that charlie kirk died for jesus christ what the is he even talking about okay next up we have maga prophet kat kerr who went to heaven and saw charlie kirk hanging out with jesus christ and receiving arrows of light as a gift i saw him standing uh next to the father he was right there up at the throne with the father and um there was silence in the zone at that point people always come to welcome people there he was wearing like a tunic outfit a tunic top and pants and it was white and it had gold trimmed all over he had a choice and he went and got that is that what you're saying the father took him wanted him to have for a purpose okay this is you and i realize now after seeing this he was getting part of his reward for what he had done for all the years he had given himself to rescue people especially the youth and then when I saw him turn he turned he had on a quiver and that quiver I knew was there there were 1 ,000 arrows of light I mean, this is just crazy shit.
7:39But you know, when you think about the Republican Party right now, when they talk about manufacturing weather, they traffic in a lot of magical thinking. And for somebody who's always been secular, this does not surprise me because when you say you think the earth is 6 ,000 years old, when you fundamentally believe that people used to live to be 900 years old, when you think that God committed mass genocide on the earth and picked Noah and he got two animals and put them on a boat and floated around, this is just an extension of all of that Iron Age magical thinking. And so a lot of these people are just so primed to sit here and hear this bullshit.
8:20And America has a crazy Christian problem. I completely agree. I look at her and I think she needs help. She needs like something is not right with her. And they're just think it's the cutest thing in the whole world. All right. And then we have Joel Weber and he calls for Charlie Kirk's killer to be executed on public broadcast in order for justice to be served. Play the clip. is a murder a capital crime that happens at a national level with a public national figure as it did occur in the case of charlie kirk then i believe that that capital punishment it should be just fair trial swift right if justice is delayed deuteronomy says then evil doers will spring up they'll take that as a license to do more evil look somebody got away with murder so it needs to be proportional justice.
9:09It needs to be fair justice. There's a fair trial. It needs to be swift justice, not delayed. And if it's a public national crime, like the case of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, then that justice should be carried out publicly. What do I mean? I'll speak in no uncertain terms. I believe that Charlie Kirk's murderer should be put to death and that his execution should be publicly, nationally televised. Okay, I'm going to tell you guys something that will terrify you. In our state, megachurch Christians and evangelicals, that is a mainstream thought. So many people would listen to him and think, yeah, I agree with that.
9:51Absolutely. And Charlie Kirk was the one that was saying, as of 12, kids should sit and watch people be executed. So that surprises me, zebra. Right. All right. And then last, we have Christian nationalist writer, Doug Wilson. And he says, Charlie Kirk's murder will be wasted if they don't exterminate the left. That's uplifting. The history will show that Tyler Robinson, if he is convicted of firing the shot that killed Charlie Kirk, will also be revealed as the man who put a bullet in the neck. Pause that real quick. This is Pete Hegseth's pastor right here. This is the guy that wants to do away with the 19th amendment.
10:30So this idea right here is not fringe and MAGA. And that's the thing I want to tell you about this stuff right here. As a person who grew up around crazy Christians, none of this surprises me. None of it. People pay tens of thousands of dollars to send their kids to private schools to get this type of education, to get this type of thinking. This is mainstream in MAGA red states. These are mainstream ideas. And I'm telling you guys, these people are serious and super ambitious and super hateful, and they salivate, salivate over the cruelty. All right, continue with the clip. progressive leftism, but only if.
11:13One of the most important principles of war is pursuit. General Meade was the capable Union general at Gettysburg, whose leadership there secured a victory over the Confederate forces. But because he failed to pursue, the war went on for two more years. He won the battle when he could have won the war. This, I'm telling you guys, this is mainstream shit in red states when you get outside of the urban core and you get to suburbia and And then you get to rural America. This shit, all of these clips are mainstream American evangelicalism. I know personally that a lot of this hits hard with family members, right?
11:53That they would be all in. And it sounds crazy. And I look at it and I think that's crazy, but I know it's a fact. And that's why I think it's important to cover this because the Democrats largely avoid talking about religion. and they don't. MAGA doesn't avoid talking about it. They talk about it all the time. They weaponized it to get these people to vote for them. And now these crazy Christians are tongue talking in the, in the, in the oval office and outside the oval office. And you've got, you know, these crazy evangelical preachers running around in there. And what's her name? Caroline Levitt.
12:33Everybody's wearing all these crucifixes, acting like nuts. This shit right here, this was the base of Charlie Kirk and all that Bible thumper stuff. But if you go, I always think about this church in Oklahoma, it's called Life Church. It's a big, big mega church. And their number one thing is growing. It's the prosperity gospel. And they take Venmo. And after Trump, the Butler assassination attempt, They posted about it and they showed completely who they were. And in that world, Crossings Christian, Oklahoma Christian School, in that world, all of this shit is real. They want their kids to know this shit.
13:13They want them to be raised with this type of hellfire damnation Christianity. They absolutely do. And I'll tell you what else. They want to punish other people. They like it because they feel entitled to it and they think they're better than other people and they think they can judge other people. I mean, it's just unbelievable, the entitlement. No, it really is. All right. That's all we have. This is very uplifting stuff to know that so many Americans believe in this Iron Age cruelty, but they do. And they've ascended to power. You have the Speaker of the House is a crazy. He believes all this shit.
13:55J.D. Vance, I don't know that he does or not, but he knows that he has to get this type of base to go along with what he wants to do. And Peter Thiel, who bizarrely does lectures on the Antichrist, which is a weird thing to do. All right, that's all we have. Like and subscribe, and we'll see you later.
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