MAGA Voters Bailing, Demented Trump Admits He's Not Going To Leave Office Willingly

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1:06The Joy Reid Show:Joining me today on iHip News, it's a total treat. It is, of course, my very good friend, Joy Reid, host of The Joy Reid Show. Because on our side, we support each other. We lift each other up. All of those people in the right-wing media ecosystem. Delicious cannibalism. I must say. No, I mean, they're like putting salt on each other and just having a taste and a bite. Everything was wrong with them. They don't even like each other. I know. Joy, I want to get your take on this. Fox News invited a focus group of independent voters, and it didn't go very well. Let's play the clip. Well, honestly, what has been holding me back is I feel like the change that I was expecting from the president himself, I don't feel in my everyday life, which is concerning to me.

1:53I still feel obviously that prices are very, very, very high if you're going to the grocery store or just in general because inflation still exists. Unfortunately, now we have the higher gas prices, which really hurt everyday people in their pocket. And I've voted my entire life. And the frustration right now is it's just unbelievable because. Joy. Part of me wonders if people who speak like that young lady were in a coma during Donald Trump's first term or during his entire lifetime in which he's bankrupted businesses and been a terrible businessman and then pretended to be a good businessman on The Apprentice.

2:35And then part of me says, you know what, let me be gracious and give grace. I think most people don't pay attention to politics. I generally think people just don't pay attention and they knew they were hurting economically during Biden. And so they didn't really look deeper into, they sort of didn't access their own memories of the first Trump term. They just voted against what they had.

2:58The Joy Reid Show:And how much of this should we attribute to Democratic messaging? And let me give you an example. My entire life, I was born in 1974, Republican presidents always go down like this, reduce taxes, increase debt, start war, market crash, Democrat comes in and fixes it. Next Republican comes in, does the exact same thing. The only thing that Trump has done is he's done it a lot faster. They have propagandized the Republicans so well. We are such good caretakers of the economy. Physical responsibility. We are so good at business. We support the troops. Meanwhile, they send them out in all these crazy ass wars all the time.

3:42The Joy Reid Show:How much of a burden should the Democrats have for constantly playing defense and not offense and defining these liars and complete arsonists, American arsonists that the Republican Party has become? Yeah, I mean, every Republican president in my adult lifetime has presided over a recession, with the exception of George Herbert Walker Bush, who's the only one who raised taxes? Every other Republican, all of them, Bush, Reagan. I mean, I think inflation was like 14 % when I was a kid under Reagan. They always have a recession. But the problem for the Democrats is that the Republican brand is very simple, tax cuts.

4:22Their brand is tax cuts. And so when people see a Republican, the first thing they think is tax cuts. They forget about the recessions. They forget about the fact that they crash the economy every time because they cut taxes for the super rich. They spend like drunken sailors. And then they know a Democrat is going to come along and be the cleanup woman, the cleanup man, and clean it up. And then Americans have such short memories that as soon as the Democrat, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, clean up the mess, they go, oh, great. Now we can put another Republican in and get more tax cuts.

4:54The Joy Reid Show:Yeah. And don't you think right now the psychological soil is completely primed with how grotesque these oligarchs are. They're just like Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez. They're some nasty ass fascists, in my opinion. Elon Musk is a nasty fascist, white supremacist. That the Democrats need to play offense and start this, oh no, it's going to be a tax break for the working class. But these billionaires, we simply cannot afford them. We cannot afford to have a billionaire class like this. Don't you think it would be better if we took offense? I feel like the Democrats are always playing defense. They're always playing defense.

5:30And also they mix the message. We can't say Jeff Bezos is an evil fascist, but also we're going to chill with him at the Met Gala. Let's go to his wedding. And look, I think we asked too much of our celebrities that they shun the billionaires, but the messaging is so mixed. Is this guy a bad guy or is he like our friend in fashion? And so I think that because there's not a willingness to inoculate the culture from these people, these people insinuate themselves into the culture. And then we don't know what we stand for. And the Democratic Party doesn't have a brand, right? Their brand is they're the scolds.

6:11They're the ones who are telling you, you didn't get the pronouns right. You didn't do this right. They're the scold brand. And people just don't like it. And so the Republicans are like the fun brand. They're like the absentee dad that comes around once every month and takes you out to the, you know, the Disney dad. They're the Disney dad. They're the weekend dad. And Republicans are the mom that's telling you got to do your homework. And that's just the branding. And so I don't know how they get around that, especially if they're not offering proactively something positive, which is why somebody like a mom Donnie is the kind of Democrat who can win because he's not stuck to the Democratic brand.

6:49his brand is Mom Donnie. His brand is affordability guy. His brand is change.

6:55The Joy Reid Show:And I thought the way he played the Met Gala was perfect. Perfect. I'm not going to go, but I'm going to lift up all of these workers, garment workers. I mean, just brilliant. Okay. I want to play a stunning moment for you from Trump's judicial nominees. And we know from other autocrats, like let's just look at Victor Orban. They They sunk their claws so deep with party loyalists into the judiciary, into the media. Here is Senator Chris Coons interviewing lifetime appointments for federal judges. Play the clip. President Trump eligible to run for president again in 2028?

7:38Senator without considering all the facts and looking at everything, depending on what the situation is, this to me strikes as more of a hypothetical of something that could It's not a hypothetical. Has President Trump been elected president twice? President Trump has been certified the President of the United States two times. Is he eligible to run for a third term under our Constitution? I would have to review the actual order of it. All I need to tell you is the language of the constitutional amendment that makes it clear that no, he is not eligible to run for a third term. Anybody else brave enough to say that the Constitution of the United States prevents President Trump from seeking a third term?

8:16anybody willing to apply the constitution by its plain language in the 22nd amendment nobody okay this is stunning these men wouldn't go an inch in a meritocracy no not an inch not an inch and it's not the idea of meritocracy is so as as orwellian as the idea that republicans are fiscally responsible right they just say words that are meaningless, and then they reverse the meaning. These same nominees for the judiciary could not admit that Joe Biden beat Donald Trump in the 2020 election. They can't do it because they're still performing for an audience of one. And the fact that attorneys, people who want to be lifetime appointed judges, can't simply quote the 22nd Amendment and say, of course not.

9:05He's been president for two terms. He can't be president again. They can't do it because they know they'll be punished by a truth social post. And then they won't be able to be judges because the cowards in the United States Senate on the Republican side, plus the one from Pennsylvania who pretends to be a Democrat, won't vote for them. So the reality is in order to get the job, they have to debase themselves. Republicans are supposed men who live on their knees. Not a single one of them is a man. They are quizlings. They are cowards. They are supine, pathetic worms who pretend to be manly men.

9:44The Joy Reid Show:I completely agree. And then Trump just said this right after these hearings. Here he was yesterday. Stunning. Play the clip. When I get out of office in, let's say, eight or nine years from now, I'll be able to use it. I'll be able to use it myself. Pause it right there, Kylie. Look at all these crusty ass people laughing and applauding for what he just said. What's your take on all that? I mean, this is what it's like to live in an autocracy, right? Everyone in Saddam Hussein's Iraq had to laugh and applaud when Saddam Hussein made a joke. And even if the joke was about killing their family if they don't comply.

10:28And these people are performing autocracy in America. And so whatever Donald Trump says is funny. Whatever he says is true. The only truth is what's on quote unquote truth social. That's why he named it that, so that people would be forced to say, Donald Trump truth. And so everyone goes along. Everyone has to call the Gulf of America. Everyone has to pretend that there's such a thing as the Department of War and that Pete Hegseth is the Secretary of War. You know, that's not true. Right. And also that he's qualified to even have the job of Secretary of Defense. Right. This is a joke. We are a cosmic international joke right now.

11:10People look at somebody like, you know, Todd Glantz, and the rest of the world is laughing at us. They look at a Kristi Noem and the job that she used to have as Secretary of Homeland Security, and they laugh at us. Pete Hegseth is an international punchline, and so is Donald Trump. But inside of this country, inside of the Republican Party, they have to pretend that Donald Trump is a statesman. They have to pretend that he's intelligent and brilliant and a great leader. Because if they don't, they get punished by a truth social post. That's pathetic.

11:47The Joy Reid Show:Joy, what do you make of his approval ratings are at 30, 32 percent? I saw 25 in one poll. Shit, that's better. That's good news. So we need to get it down into the teens. Yeah. But so you have these abysmal polling numbers. At the same time, our counterparts, the propagandists in the right wing media ecosystem, they've jumped off the Trump train. They have seen that this man is a dementia duck. He is in his last term. It's a weekend at Bernie's presidency. They're trotting this motherfucker around everywhere. He's fallen asleep left and right. Tucker Carlson has gone full tilt off the Trump train.

12:25The Joy Reid Show:Megyn Kelly, full tilt. Joe Rogan still, he likes to have his foot in both because he just doesn't believe in anything. A total nihilist. What do you make of, we're starting to see fissures for the first time in 11 years. We saw a glimpse right after January 6th. And then the former speaker of the house went down and kissed the ring. And then that was over with. Fox News, everybody followed suit. But now we're starting to see real fissures. What's your take on all that? Yeah, they smell blood in the water, right? Donald Trump has the giant Kangol that look like they're going to explode. He's got bruises all over his hands.

12:59He's physically not well. He's mentally and cognitively gone, right? He's gonzo. Like he's just out to lunch, wandering around, staring at the invisible ballroom at this point. He is. But they also, they see now the potential power of the presidency. I think one of the most dangerous moments in an autocracy is when the aging autocrat is potentially on his way out, but he's left behind the scent of absolute power. We've now seen what the presidency can do. It can make you a billionaire six times over. you can steal in the open and John Roberts will protect you because John Roberts is a monarchist, corrupt asshole who just wants to do his own corruption.

13:45The Supreme Court is like, shit, we're doing corruption too. We don't want a Congress that's going to investigate us. We're going to keep these people in forever. These motherfuckers are staying in for life. They're going to be a Republican majority until we're dead because we're just going to do corruption with y 'all. And so you know you're protected by a corrupt court. You know that the quizlings in the Congress are not going to do shit. They're not going to do anything. And so the Tuckers of the world, they're like, we've got a supine Congress that's obedient. We've got a corrupt judiciary all the way to the top.

14:15John Roberts and those six, they're never going to stop the corruption. I want to be president. They're all like, shit, I want that job. And so now everyone smells blood in the water and they want the power Trump has.

14:27The Joy Reid Show:You think Tucker's going to run? I think I wouldn't be surprised. I'll put it that way. Tucker doesn't run. I think Joe Kent sees it. Marjorie Taylor Greene sees it. Everyone who's speaking up against Trump now and trying to establish themselves as this suddenly, suddenly caring about the Palestinian people out of nowhere. They certainly care so deeply. Human rights and children. Human rights and children. And children. And they're Christians. Oh, of course. And you can't just kill children. All of a sudden, they give a damn. Yeah. Because they see that that is the path to that power Trump has and the money.

14:58The Joy Reid Show:So in that, you have these people that say Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, all of a sudden they're just, you know, all about universal human rights. But I have heard crickets about the following. Last week, the Supreme Court gutted a key provision of the Voting Rights Act, and this broke yesterday. Pop this up. The Supreme Court Monday fast-tracked its decision in Louisiana versus Calais, a move that clears the way for Louisiana to move forward with redrawing its congressional map, even as an election is already underway. So these all of a sudden human rights activists, arbiters of democracy, crickets from them on this.

15:43Joy, speak to me, not only as a person in media, but also as a black woman, how seeing this happen. And knowing that Obama, that was a huge progress. We elected a black president, but knowing that there would probably be a white lash, I've heard from a lot of black people. They knew, oh, we're going to get it for this at some point. Speak to that because I think it's really important to highlight that fear that a lot of black Americans always feel just below the surface. And then knowing the Supreme Court did this with a black man voted for this. And I think, well, you know, a black man with a little bit of a asterisk uh just saying we don't blame him yeah yeah he he's not with us anymore yeah um and and i'll say and just and by the way just to kind of revise slightly what i just said earlier the whole issue of and it's connected the whole issue of palestine which is something i've been passionate about since i was a kid um the fact that these people are play acting to care about a literal genocide and a literal genocide that has spread to Lebanon, which is a real thing that's happening and that they're performing sort of a performative outrage about that.

17:01But right here in our own country, the massacre of the voting rights of 13 % of the population, and then if you want to include Hispanics, you know, another 15 % of the population, they could give a damn because their path to power involves continuing to suppress the votes of people like me. And the fact that John Roberts, who was a 26-year-old man, arrived in the Reagan Justice Department 16 years after the passage of the Voting Rights Act and declared that it had done enough. He thought the Voting Rights Act was finished, dead, and done and unnecessary in 1981, 16 years after its passage. And I think that's the piece that I sit with a lot is the time.

17:45People think of the 60s and the 80s as so different. 65 and 80 is 15 years. He gets there 16 years later and says, we don't need that shit anymore. As a young 26-year-old man, he already thought it was over. And his life's work has been to repeal not just the Voting Rights Act, but the 20th century. We have a Supreme Court that looks at the American century, the greatest century in this country's history, the 20th century, in which we saw labor rights, child labor laws abolished, Women acquire the right to vote. Women acquire the right to contraception and abortion to determine our own fates. And the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments, 100 years later, finally given the force of law through the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, miracles in the 20th century.

18:36This court views that century as an abomination, and they've been setting out to repeal the 20th century ever since they've gotten a majority. And John Roberts is no different than Alito, who despises with an open hatred the 20th century and the Supreme Court, including Thurgood Marshall being the first Black justice that implemented those incredible or that certified those rights. They hate the idea of equality between you and me. Because you're a white woman who broke out of the kitchen and you are not home churning butter for your husband. And therefore you're an abomination. And I as a black woman, a daughter of immigrants, the fact that I was able to go to Harvard, God forbid, break into that white male institution.

19:20The fact that I was able to make it that I can economically survive. The fact that I can vote. I'm an abomination. We're an abomination to that court. And they have decided they're going to dismantle everything good that was ever done to make this country great, to turn it back into the 19th century hell for people like you and me. And the fact that there's a black man that is a part of that drive to turn us backwards because he is so corrupt that he would trade every single black person in this country for the power and the baubles and the gifts and the vacations he gets in exchange makes him an abomination.

20:01And I, you know, I've been saying people have to stop calling him an Uncle Tom because Uncle Tom was actually a hero in Uncle Tom's cabin. He actually sacrificed his life to save two black women who were running away. Clarence Thomas wouldn't sacrifice himself for a single black woman, maybe not even in his family. What he cares about is riches and baubles and hanging out with the guy with the garden of evil. And John Roberts cares only about dismantling the Voting Rights Act. He's been obsessed with it since he was a young man, and now he has the power to do it. And the fact that they used Barack Obama's election, the miracle of this fundamentally Black-hating country electing a Black president, the fact that that's their excuse to now essentially invalidate all three of the Reconstruction amendments that made this country a livable place in theory for Black people, makes it even worse.

21:00They're literally twisting those amendments, turning them upside down and turning them against Black people because they know that Black people vote for the most progressive candidate who can win. They vote for more taxes on the super rich. They vote for universal education and universal health care. That's how Black folks vote. We may be personally conservative, some of us, some people, we have a range of views, but we vote very progressive. Yeah. And they hate it and they hate us and they're letting us know they despise us. And the last thing I'll add is that the churlish little nasty bitchy response.

21:34from Samuel Alito to Justice Jackson when she dissented to them immediately implementing their Calais ruling in the middle of active elections. And his little bitch ass response to her shows that he knows he's wrong. He knows what he's doing is evil, but he's willing to do evil in order to have the eternal corruption that's allowed under a Republican ruled Congress.

21:59The Joy Reid Show:Yeah, he is a bitch ass. There's no question. But I want to point out something that you just did that I think is a really important example. You sat down and linked our human rights, me, a privileged white woman, and you, a privileged black woman. I mean, you are now privileged. And you linked us. And this is something that a lot of people don't want to do. They don't want to link our destinies. And I think what you just did is sort of so important because a lot of white women will carry water for the patriarchy and they're going to be the first to drown and how you just pointed out that if they come after you which you're going to be the first that they go up i'm right there they just keep moving the goal post so i thought that was such so important because i always am messaging to my audience when it comes to trans rights you might not understand it it might sound weird but you cannot cede anybody's rights this is America.

22:59It's a free country. It's none of your goddamn business. And if you give that up, the Democratic Party is flirting with, you know, throwing them under the bus. A lot of establishment candidates are flirting with throwing our fellow citizens, less than 0.01 % of the population under the bus. And I always say, you can't do it because then they move the goalpost and move the goalpost. So thank you for doing that. That was a really teachable moment of

23:23The Joy Reid Show:how we are all so interconnected. And Obama responded to the racist AI picture that Trump posted of him and former first lady Michelle Obama, let's pop this up. Former President Barack Obama offered his take on President Trump posting an AI generated image. Let me get onto what Obama said. He said, I don't take it personally. I mean, I'm always offended when my wife and kids get dragged into things because they didn't choose this. That's a line that even people whose politics I deeply reject, I would expect them to care about. I would never talk about somebody's family in that way. And so in this time period where all I hear is the left needs to tone down the rhetoric.

24:08I'm like, bitch, please, have you looked at lie social lately? I mean, it is a rage baiting, crime provoking manifesto. It's just what's your take on Obama jumping into that? You know, it was interesting. I think it was Ta-Nehisi Coates when President Obama, when Obama ran and he said that the reason that he was electable, he's the least angry black man in America. Right. He's the most gracious person there is. he's a far better christian than i am because i'm like fuck them

24:48okay yeah i'm angrier about this than he is because he's just a gracious dude i mean like that is just who he is that this is legit like i i remember when he was president they would do these sort of behind the scenes where you know journalists could come in and sit with him and i remember getting you know they go around the table and everybody gets to ask a question my question was about John Boehner and how John Boehner would just go, you know, hell no, you can't. And we do all that. And he said, you know, he just believed that he had to be performatively angry at him, but that he thought of him as just sort of a decent sort of, you know, cloth coat Republican who behind the scenes would do deals.

25:22And I'm like, do you really think that? And I'm like, I think he really thinks that like, he actually is just a gracious guy. Right. Right. But I think he has the ability to occupy that space of graciousness. The rest of us can rage for him. I was so disgusted by what they did and what Trump did, I should say, because it feeds into a trope that I think Trump believes. You know, Trump said that African countries are shitholes, that black people can't run a country. And I think he believes a black man should never have run this country. He thinks that black people should just be athletes and entertainers and shut the fuck up.