Major Allegations Against GOP Senators Tears MAGA Apart, Trump Loses All Control

7 Aug 2026 · 38 min · 16 chapters

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In short

The episode argues that GOP leaders are hypocrites and that “closetocracy” (secret LGBTQ relationships and alleged sex-for-money) is driving MAGA politics, including national-security risks and blackmail.

Guests

none are clearly identified as named “guests” in the transcript; the hosts are Don Lemon and Jen (co-host).

Key claims

chef Joe Gara alleges Senator Josh Hawley is gay/bi and was seen kissing a male escort behind a building; Gara also claims Hawley paid a busboy $100 to stay quiet. Similar allegations are made about Senator Bernie Marino (leather, sex workers, blackmail) and Senator Tom Cotton (attended a gay bar in Arkansas; unverified photo).

Notable examples

“dumpster” sightings, X posts by Gara, Mike Johnson’s “communists” rhetoric, and cable-news “normalizing” of Trump controversies (including Air Force One plane safety).

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Allegations Against GOP Senators

0:00 to 0:20

Discussing allegations against GOP senators and their implications.

“That's why customers have enjoyed Progressive's Name Your Price tool for years now.”

Allegations Against GOP Senators

0:36 to 2:59

Discussing allegations against GOP senators and their implications.

“We can see if someone is, you know, kind of gay coded, right?”

The Hypocrisy of LGBTQ+ Politics

2:59 to 7:39

Examining the hypocrisy in GOP politics regarding LGBTQ+ issues.

“I would even argue that this is an issue of national security.”

The Culture of Obsession in GOP

7:39 to 14:00

Analyzing the GOP's obsession with gender and sexuality issues.

“Maybe you're trying to repress it so much that you have to do it because you don't want people to find out.”

The Republican Obsession with Trans Issues

14:00 to 14:59

Discussing the Republican focus on trans issues and its implications.

“They're not really getting any clout by saying this because would you want to be associated with someone like that?”

Lies and Hypocrisy in Politics

15:00 to 17:25

Exploring the contradictions within Republican leadership and their policies.

“community or if you are a sex worker, no shaming of sex workers.”

National Identity and Patriotism

17:26 to 19:48

Debating what it means to be truly American and the rhetoric used in politics.

“What I have to say about little Moses Mike's statement there is nobody shit talks or hates on America more than Donald Trump.”

Religious Tolerance and American Values

19:49 to 22:05

Discussing the importance of religious diversity and acceptance in American politics.

“Your allegiance, it should be to America, and it should be America first.”

Critique of Family Values in Politics

22:06 to 24:55

Analyzing the contradiction of family values espoused by certain politicians.

“trying to, I know I'm going on here, who are trying to get universal health care or affordable health care for all people, a living wage for all people.”

The Double Lives of Politicians

24:56 to 27:44

Examining allegations of hypocrisy among politicians regarding their personal lives.

“Chapel Rhone, sorry for desecrating your song like that and changing the lyrics.”
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The Need for Accountability

27:45 to 28:04

Emphasizing the importance of holding politicians accountable for their actions.

“And Tom Cotton's running around doing stuff, allegedly.”

Allegations of Blackmail in Politics

28:04 to 29:51

Explore the implications of alleged blackmail among GOP senators.

“And I mean, one could make the argument that Lady Graham was being blackmailed by Benjamin Netanyahu and I buy that all day long based on his behavior.”

Critique of Cable News and Political Narratives

29:51 to 32:02

Analyze the portrayal of politicians and the narratives in cable news.

“If that's if that's indeed the case, don't hide and do it.”

Normalization of Extremism and Hypocrisy

32:02 to 35:36

Discuss the normalization of extremist views in political discourse.

“And this is why I can't, this is why I'm like, I can't believe that I operated in this cable system for so long because it is, it is outrageous.”

Future Political Landscape Predictions

35:36 to 37:42

Predict the future of American politics and the disconnect from centrist views.

“They completely normalize every aspect of it.”

Future Political Landscape Predictions

38:16 to 38:34

Predict the future of American politics and the disconnect from centrist views.

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0:35there's some piping hot tea breaking all over the internet and i will say that my co-host and i don lemon have been on this track for quite some time uh pop it up breaking expo a chef alleges that his bus voice saw maga senator josh holly making out with a male escort behind a building this is a married man with children the chef says maybe we should ask carlos not a pseudonym the bus boy who saw you kissing your strong date from that agency when he was taking out the trash behind the property about your integrity josh chef joe gara wrote on x you know the guy you gave a hundred dollars to stay quiet after you chased him into the elevator going back up into the kitchen he added in another post dawn

1:34okay first of all let's just say allegedly as we always say that's we need to name the show

1:42okay so i've you know this has been sort of suggested or people have been saying this about him and you heard you know what hunter biden said he didn't say explicitly but he he said are you asking me if which i think is very telling um i'm not surprised by these allegations uh or these rumors because they've been going around but um i'm actually surprised at the prevalence of them now and that everyone is and i'm surprised also jen that people are some people seem shocked that it's happening as you said we've been doing this for a while we've been talking about these rumors. We also have eyes.

2:22We can see if someone is, you know, kind of gay coded, right? Remember him and the photograph. Remember we did an episode and you showed the photograph of him with the football player, the kicker. I forget what his name was, you know, Harrison, but butler, butker, butker, butker. And it looked like they were, you know, doing a scene from Brokeback Mountain. So look, and the thing is, is that Jen, do you care if he's gay or bi or likes No, but if you're going to operate in the Republican Party, a party that is, you know, demonizes LGBTQ plus people, then that is problematic and you shouldn't be hiding it.

2:58So, Josh Hawley, if you are gay, I'm not saying that you are. I don't know. But that's what the rumors say. The streets are talking. Just come out. I would even argue that this is an issue of national security. If we have a sitting United States senator that is alleging to be heterosexual, yet is so closeted that he's forced behind dumpsters in restaurants, allegedly doing gay stuff with Carlos the busboy or being spotted by Carlos the busboy. If if he's tracking somebody down, paying him$100 to stay quiet, how many other people adversaries know about this? And Dawn, here's the thing that gay people exist in every corner of the globe.

3:41They exist in every country. Even the most anti-gay countries have gay people. And both of our dominant political parties right now have gay people. On our side, we have the proud gays. We have the gays that have the pride parade, that have allies and are building a safer, better place of inclusivity. On the MAGA side, we have the shame gays. And I think they should have a shame parade because to me, this is an issue. It should be July because July is hot and the tea is hot. So July should be the, you know, how pride June is pride month. Yeah. July should be shame month. Yeah. Sorry to cut you off.

4:18Yeah. And so we have the speaker of the house, little Moses Mike Johnson. And this is just my opinion, allegedly that he's very, very gay obsessed. And here's another one right here. And this one really has some legs to it. Pop the next one up. On fire, the chef exposing dirty Republican secrets alleges that MAGA Senator Bernie Marino is a homosexual who's into leather and pays for sex workers. And that's how he's been blackmailed. He's not just spilling the beans. He's unleashing an avalanche. He says, okay, I'll expose it at Bernie Marino. So your ex son-in-law who is a monster can shut his abusive narcissistic face up and there is no blackmail.

5:05You are a homosexual. And so in this situation, nobody can understand how this senator had all this ire for 85 year old Anthony Fauci. And he's like, who the fuck do you think you are? But he can't stand up to the congressman who is abusing allegedly his daughter and his granddaughter. So this is where this national security issue comes in for me. These Republicans are supposed to be big national security people. And we all know the late Lady Graham, you know, she and Benjamin Netanyahu were as tight as ticks, right? And so if our adversaries or bad actors have this compromising information on these alleged family conservative values, this is a real issue.

5:47And it seems to me, per Hunter Biden and others and the chef, that the closetocracy, as Hunter calls it, is in full force in D.C.

5:59allegedly i gotta say though seriously think about it jen it's always the angry mean ones yep it's always the ones like who are yelling at dr fauci and who are trying to be you know or folks like dr fauci and who are trying to be i'm so you are you're so terrible f you you should be ashamed to yourself it's like where's that coming from every accusation is a confession. We know what self-hatred does to people. We know how it affects their psyche. We know what suppression and repression does to people. You know that. I've had years and years of therapy to tell you. And it's usually the people, there is a reason that there's a saying called thou doth protest too much.

6:44It's because it's usually the people who are protesting, who are over projecting, who are trying to be overly masculine and overly aggressive that have something to hide. Now I'm generalizing, but that's what psychology and psychiatrists say. Psychologists and psychiatrists say that. So again, I would not be surprised that any of these folks are angry or self-hating or gay or whatever. And again, we know gay is not bad. What we're trying to do is tell people, if you're going to be gay, then be gay. Don't be in the closet. Don't be enacting legislation that's detrimental to the members of the LGBTQ plus community because that is indeed itself hypocrisy.

7:23And that sort of hypocrisy needs to be called out. If you are a woman and you are a gen and you are saying, you know, women shouldn't be able to do this and women shouldn't be able to do that, people would say, well, wait a minute, you're a woman. What the fuck are you talking about? And gay people are saying the same thing. Like, how can you be so self-hating against something that you are? Maybe you're trying to repress it so much that you have to do it because you don't want people to find out. And also, let me just say this from personal experience, I've gone through this. I had to do back in high school and college, the overly masculine thing.

7:57And I'm such a dude and I want to, I want to date chicks and I want to get, you know, what the P word. And all the while I knew I wanted something else. And so it's not like this is foreign to me because I have done it before when I was in the closet. And once I got out of that closet, I had so much self-autonomy and self-love and the weight was lifted off of my shoulder and I didn't have to pretend to be something that I wasn't. And now you have pride and you reject the shame that the Josh Hollies, that the Senator Marinos want to project on to the LGBTQ plus community. And also the rumors are swirling another senator.

8:43And again, Tom Cotton, pop it up. Oh, my. Oh, oh, oh, oh, Jen. Where have you been, girl? Attended a gay bar in Arkansas, according to the former proprietor of the bar with whom I spoke. How will the neocons try to cover this up? And so they have they call him Tom Cotton Candy. And I'd heard it before. Yes, you've heard it. OK. But allegedly you've seen the photograph. Allegedly there's a picture of him, but it's not corroborated. they've tried to do like you know an image thing on it but apparently everyone says that's a picture of him in the bar he denies it it has been denied but I don't know it you can't confirm nor deny if you I don't know if you have the picture but I've heard these rumors about Tom Cotton for years there's my gaydar ping with him yes do I care about him no in that sense I don't I don't find him attractive I don't find him any I would not want to even if he was openly I would I would not be interested in him because i don't share people i don't i'm not interested in people with that mentality but then again if it is true that's part of this hypocrisy pride shame um continuum that we're on right now and so look again my thing is come out but i've heard this about tom cotton for years i don't know if it's true do i look at him and go oh yeah sister hey what's up girl but but I don't know.

10:02What do you say? Jen, you've got a gaydar. Come on. You know, I have thought for a very, very long time, all of these people here mentioned. Additionally, I think Moses Mike Grinder Johnson, I get a ping from J.D. Vance. You saw the way when he was on the podcast, Usha's podcast, like which is a children's reading podcast. It's weird shit but anyway he like reaches over and pats her and he's like how you doing it's just like if josh my husband he's like how you doing there i'd be like what what what do you do what the fuck's wrong with you like why are you tapping me like that um so i do think that there is a huge problem and i think it's rather interesting that if you look at the maga regime the people that were fired first were the women and the a lot of these men in the podcasting uh bro sphere they seem to be happiest in homosocial relationships.

11:01We did some reporting earlier that a lot of people in the Bible Belt now, they're making these bro gems. Have you seen this? They're Christian bro gems. And there's just some weird shit going on with Republicans, masculinity, their obsession with genitalia, their obsession with the LGBTQ plus community, um, it, they end up telling you in the comment section, what they're thinking about, you know, like I'll post a picture. I posted a picture of my Italy trip to have my Italian friends next to me. And somebody commented those two guys, these men are fully heterosexual, fully clothed, but what doesn't matter what the gender is, but some MAGA troll writes, those two guys look like they need butt plugs.

11:52And I thought, if you're saying that and you're thinking about butt plugs, you're telling on yourself. Like, that is not the own you think it is. What that is telling me is that you think about butt sex a lot. Did you ever think about butt plugs? Like, I never, that would not even cross my mind to think about it. I never look at a photograph and think butt plugs. Yeah. It's crazy. Why are they obsessed? And that was the I asked that. And so did you, I think, a very similar question to Hunter Biden. Why are Republicans so obsessed with gay people and gay sex? And then he's the one that said there's a cabal of gay closeted Republicans or conservatives in Washington who are running the blah, blah, blah, and they're self-hating.

12:36And I was like, OK, name some names. And then he named it the way that he named just in the form of a question, i.e., like Jeopardy. But let me just say something about this whole Jim thing. I was going to say to you, Jen, is that you pronounce bathhouse wrong. Because that's what this is. It's like a fucking steam room, right? Because go to any gym if you want. And if you, I can go to the gym a million times. I am not going to be distracted by some woman or some man because they're there at the gym working out. Now I may notice like, oh, that's a pretty woman oh that's a handsome man oh wow look that guy's a great body i wish i had that but i'm not going to be like oh my god this is so distracting i can't work out here if it's like control yourself you freaking neanderthal and and but then on the other side you only want to work out with guys

13:37exactly and then okay don they have these they have these big boy boot camps now they call them the alpha male boot camps where the men go off to learn how to be more alpha and they're doing a lot of you know exercising and fitness stuff together and i just think that democrats and tying this into where we are need to do a better job calling this shit out i mean directly calling it out they their response to when every republican always goes what's a man what's a woman can you define a gender the democratic response needs to be why are you so obsessed with trans people why why do you why are you thinking about trans people right now it's less than one percent of the population why are you constantly thinking about trans people because allegedly lindsey graham he was obsessed with all this shit too and now it seems like every trans sex worker is coming out of the woodwork right now spilling the tea that lindsey liked to wear red panties and hire sex workers.

14:39This is per the sex worker. I'm not listening.

14:47But look, what do these people have? They're not getting anything out of it. They're not really getting any clout by saying this because would you want to be associated with someone like that? Like by associating yourself with someone like that, if you are a member of the trans community or if you are a sex worker, no shaming of sex workers. I'm not sure that I would want to be associated with someone like Lindsey Graham, a closeted gay man who is a leader in the country and who is directly harming the very people who are coming out and saying that they were doing this with them. So I don't think that there's anything in it for these sex workers.

15:25So there's got to be something to it. I don't know what it is. I don't know how much truth there is, But why would you come out and do this? Because it seems it would be harmful for their careers and harmful for their social media. And, you know, in the sense that people would be judging them, saying, why are you doing this with this person when you knew they were doing that? And why didn't you out them? So, you know, I don't see that there's anything in it for them to be lying about it. And, you know, I don't think so either. And, you know, not only Hunter Biden said that to us, but I was on Steve Schmidt's podcast.

15:53He was the campaign manager for John McCain. And he said, you know, he worked in the White House. He said, yeah, the Republican Party is full of closeted gay men. This is a known secret. What Hunter said is widely, widely, widely known in D.C. circles. Steve Schmidt, Stuart Stevens. What's his name from the Lincoln Project? All of them have said the same thing. Right. And so and they have no reason to lie about it. And each of them that were were Republicans at some point. And this brings me to the Speaker of the House, little Moses Mike Johnson. And the Republicans have been, you know, immigrants are the problem, trans people are the problem, LGBTQ people are the problem, women are the problem.

16:39The more they complain about marginalized groups, Trump's numbers continue to decline because he's an idiot. He's surrounded by idiots. I could say something smarter right now, but these people are not worthy of intelligent analysis. So now they're going to an old tried and true American way to really drum up fear. And they are screaming, communist, communist. Oh, yeah. So Mike Johnson is doing the big red scare stuff right now. Pop this up. It's no longer Republican versus Democrat. It's not even common sense versus crazy. It's America loving versus America hating communists. And today's Democrat Party has shown us who they really are.

17:23Democrats want to destroy America. Republicans love America and will fight to keep the United States the greatest country in the history of the world. What I have to say about little Moses Mike's statement there is nobody shit talks or hates on America more than Donald Trump. He is the biggest trash talker of this country on the planet. Furthermore, Moses Mike, you have everything. You have the Supreme Court. You have the House. You have the Senate. You have the executive branch. If your policies are so great, why aren't Trump's approval numbers in the 50s, 60s or 70s? Because Republican policies are built on pathological lies where you lie to middle America and tell them the reason their life sucks is because of gay people, because of black people, because of immigrants, because of women.

18:16And the gig is up. I mean, everybody knows exactly now that you are pathological liars, except for those people in the cult. So all of this like love America, hate America stuff, it seems like such a childish kindergarten political argument. Well, the thing is, too, I think it's sort of similar to thou doth protest too much. And if you go on that thread, I don't have Twitter or X, but I can only go as far as it'll show me on the Google machine. But, you know, lower in that thread, it says, oh, really, you love America and Democrats hate America? I can tell how much you love America by how much money you take from AIPAC, right?

18:57That's one of the things. But the other thing, the next one really summed it up as I started researching this story. And there's a picture of Donald Trump and it says, no more wars. That's a lie. Lower gas prices. That's a lie. Tariff checks. That's a lie. Epstein transparency, that's a lie. Lower energy costs, that's a lie. Affordable homes, that's a lie. Draining the swamp, that's a lie. America first, that's a lie. And so if you love America so much, why do you continue to lie to the American people? Why aren't you doing anything to help the American people? Why are you just enriching yourself instead of the American people and your rich friends?

19:37That's not the American way. That doesn't seem patriotic to me. sending families and young people off to war with the possibility of paying the ultimate sacrifice when you promise not to do that that doesn't seem very patriotic and very American to me and if you are such an American and you believe in the constitution why do you keep saying you're going to run again in 2028 that's not constitutional you're supposed to believe in the constitution you're supposed to love that American independence the declaration of independence all that bullshit Why are you, why do you have, as they say, dual loyalty, it appears, because of your support of AIPAC and all of that?

20:20That's not American. Your allegiance, it should be to America, and it should be America first. So if you are such an American, why are you defying and disobeying the Constitution and the laws of this country, especially the Constitution, by not allowing people to have due process? Because it says all people should have due process in this country, not just American citizens. So they pick and choose what they want it to be or what they deem is right or what they deem to be American. None of these things that they're espousing appears to be American to me. You know what I think is very American?

20:58Is not painting people who are Muslim or who are not Christians as demon or who are nonbelievers as demonic or communist or somehow bad for the country. Our founding fathers said that there should be no test, a religious test in this country. There is no national religion. And so I think the more American thing for me is to accept people in office who are from all religions. And that includes Abdul El Saeed. That includes Azoran Mamdani. That includes an Ilhan Omar or any of those folks. So there's nothing wrong with being Muslim. There's nothing wrong with being a Sikh. There's nothing wrong with being Baptist or Catholic or Jewish.

21:41But you seem to be demonizing the people whose religions that you want to otherize and you're doing it on purpose. That's not very American to me. And it's also, guess what? It's not very God-like or Christian-like. So I think they have the wrong idea about what it is to be a real American. I think the people who are more accepting of people from different religions and with different ideas about America, who are immigrants in this country, who are trying to provide this country with a viable workforce, the folks who are running for office, who are trying to, I know I'm going on here, who are trying to get universal health care or affordable health care for all people, a living wage for all people.

22:19Those are more American ideals than otherizing or demonizing people. So shut the fuck up. You can miss me with that bullshit. I agree with you. They're liars. The Republican Party, it's a death cult, and they are pathological liars. All of their policies, they want to dismantle the EPA. What does that lead to? deaths. They want to consolidate profits at the expense of safety regulations. What does that lead to? Deaths. You have the Supreme Court giving more rights to a cancer-causing fertilizer company. What is that going to lead to? Deaths. And they do all of this by Christian signaling to their white base that we are for traditional family values and that traditional family excludes you and your beautiful husband, Tim, it excludes your family.

23:09It excludes my family because we're not Christian. It excludes Zoran Mamdani's family because he's not Christian. Meanwhile, you got allegedly Josh Hawley doing a little slap and tickle by some dumpster at some restaurant. Allegedly. And then you got Kristi Noem, who allegedly has been doing a little slap and tickle with Corey Lewandowski for years. Let's play this clip from TMZ. Here's the tea.

23:41So there's Christy and Corey just hamming it up, having a good old time. Wait, he sees the camera. Watch what happens when he sees the camera. Turns his head.

24:01oh this to me is patri patriotic the person filming this so meanwhile look at him on the bikes look at him on the bikes look at him so meanwhile the traditional family of christine makes me wonder where the hell is big titty brian in this whole thing what's he up to Pop this up. Remember, this is the husband of Christina, who does nothing but Christian signal, talks about her faith, talks about tradition, which here he is in his pink panties and his big old titties with asymmetrical nipples. And she's out banging Corey Lewandowski, bike riding and slapping tickling. And they want to lecture us about family values.

24:45They're all liars. They're liars. Pink Penny Club.

24:56It's the Pink Penny Club. Thank you very much. Chapel Rhone, sorry for desecrating your song like that and changing the lyrics. But yeah, you're 100 % right. And they were doing that before. And if they were, you know, they talk about these family values and everybody should be married in traditional marriage. And what do they call them? Trad wives and all this and they're all doing i mean basically they always they all of them may as well put pineapples on their doors because you know you know what that you know what's up come on now if you people talk about the that they're obsessed with they talk about the things that are on their minds right that with something that is on your mind that much you're going to discuss it you're going to either you know you're going to uh tout it you're going to go a rail against it or whatever just like we rail against the the homophobes and the hypocrites because we were like we can't stand it they rail against the other folks because they're obsessed they're obsessed and they can't stand that these these folks have happier marriages and and more traditional if you want to call it that marriages than they do jen you see you've seen um some of my friend group.

26:06You know, lots of gay men, the gay men who I know most of them, their relationships have lasted longer and are lasting longer than heterosexuals. During COVID, so many of my straight friends are getting divorces or separating or having an affairs. And my gay friends are like, oh, we're going to dinner. Then we're going to go on home to our kids. They've got the tutor tomorrow, or they've got, you know, virtual class tomorrow. We got to go, whatever. Or we would do virtual dinners, none of them pretty much. Now I'm not saying that everybody is, you know, having a happy marriage and is part of the gay community, but for the most part, I think that they are probably jealous of these relationships because people can be themselves.

26:47I think in gay marriages, if that is a possibility, if you're going to either be, have an open relationship or, you know, maybe you have to be part of a throuple, people are more open about it. It's healthier. They talk about it. They discuss it even with their therapist and they move on. But if it's something that you have to hide, if that's something that you're wanting to do and you repress it, it is going to show up in ways that are detrimental to you and maybe ways that you can't control or that you wouldn't be able to control it if you or that you would be able to control it if it was something that you put on the table and you were straightforward and and transparent about.

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27:27I completely agree. And I still want to leave everybody with this notion. If the roles were reversed here and the Democratic Party had elected candidates that were leading alleged double lives, the Republicans would be screaming that this is a national security risk. And when you really step back and think about it, that you have sitting United States senators that are allegedly doing gay stuff out by a dumpster because that's the only place in their lives they can even go do something because they live these duplicitous hypocritical lives. And Tom Cotton's running around doing stuff, allegedly.

28:06Lady Graham, et cetera. And I mean, one could make the argument that Lady Graham was being blackmailed by Benjamin Netanyahu and I buy that all day long based on his behavior. Now, I don't know if he was or not, but if the roles were reversed, you can bet your sweet ass that the Republicans would be ringing the alarm bells about this, about this duplicity, about this dishonesty and about it being a national security risk. And I think the Democrats need to start turning up the heat on this because there is enough Republicans now that are anti-MAGA, like you said, the Lincoln Project guys that know about this stuff.

28:45And I think the finest form of patriotism right now is outing every single one of these hypocritical MAGA men. Now, if somebody is living in the closet passively and that's their own business, they're not in, they haven't chosen a public life. I have, that's nobody's business. And I have all the empathy in the world for that. But these politicians like Josh Hawley and who, and Tom Cotton, the late Lindsey Graham, this Marino who can't even stand up for his daughter and his granddaughter because of these secrets with this alleged leather incidents with sex workers. If you like some leather, Connie, let your freak flag fly.

29:27I'm just saying. Why not? I agree. Go get you some chaps and get down to the go-to. What's the one that used to have? Oh, my God. Was it called Black and Blue or something that was in Toronto or in Canada? Or just go to the leather thing. Go to Folsom Street and whatever. Get your freak on. Do your thing or just do it in the privacy of your home. But, you know, don't be don't hide and do it. If that's if that's indeed the case, don't hide and do it. And look, I keep I keep looking around at because I'm in a hotel right now, Jen, and I don't watch the cable news. But when you're in a hotel, you flip on the TV and it goes right to the cable.

30:03Right. So I said, OK, let me just I'm going to indulge for a minute. And everything is about how Democrats are now becoming communists and socialists and Hassan Piker is the most evil thing in the world. I'm like, Hassan Piker is a podcaster, is a streamer, is like an influencer. And maybe because his name is Hassan or whatever, it's like there are crazier people on the far right who you don't demonize, who say far more, you know, harmful shit than Hassan Piker. They're talking about El Saeed and the squad and everybody's like this communist demon. And how they're voting now for Anthony Fauci contempt, that he's being charged with contempt.

30:51And it's like, what is your obsession with Dr. Anthony Fauci? We were talking about COVID when we were in a time for COVID where people had no idea what was going on. And most people, most rational people said, okay, we don't know. I'm going to trust that the experts are going to lead us in the right directions. All the while knowing that medical professionals have to sometimes pivot when they get new information. That's what intelligent people do. So let's do what we can to try to save the most amount of lives rather than saying, everything should be open. The gym should be open. People should be doing that.

31:30Worst mistakes made, yes. But you want to prosecute this man for what? because Rand Paul, you have a vendetta against Dr. Anthony Fauci. This is, that's what I mean by these people cannot love America when they're not operating within the bounds of rationality or reasonableness or outside of the bounds of what's constitution and what's American, what is patriotic. How can I, how can you expect me to believe that you are a patriot and that you love America when you're doing everything to make America worse? I don't get it. I really don't. And this is why I can't, this is why I'm like, I can't believe that I operated in this cable system for so long because it is, it is outrageous.

32:10Some of the questions that they ask and, and like they're on TV, like looking like they're going to a cocktail party all made up. I'm like, where do you have like a hot date after this? Like, what are you doing? It's kind of crazy. Anyways, I'm with you on this. It's, they want to talk about Hassan Piker all the time, who is a Twitch streamer and And they never want to talk about, but who is turning out to be a little kingmaker? But what about Charlie Kirk? What about Charlie Kirk? What about having Ted Cruz on your show? Whatever channel that is, I bet they have lying, unfuckable Ted Cruz on their show all the time and act like he is a serious person.

32:51He couldn't even stand up for his own wife, what Trump called her ugly. And then they'll have on J.D. Vance and treat him like he's a serious person when just a few years ago he said Trump was America's Hitler. So spare me, cable news, all of the sanctimony when you have a clown car of pathologically lying idiots on that you rise up and act like they are normal human beings when they're not. because every single time Ted Cruz is introduced or every single time J.D. Vance is introduced, he should be introduced as such. Next, I'm joined with the vice president of the United States, who just a short four years ago said that Trump was America's Hitler.

33:35Mr. Vice President, how are you today? Do you still stand by that statement and remind every day what hypocrites these people are? Yeah. And also, too, the way they normalize things. And I think you and I have I've spoken about this before. I'm not sure. But with this new plane, right, which was obvious that this new plane does not have the safety features needed for someone with the stature of the president of the United States to be flying on it. And they had to change up when he was in the Middle East. He was flying too close to, I think it was Turkey or whatever, wherever he was. And he was flying too close to Iran.

34:07And they were like, we don't know what the safety features are, right? We've been saying that to him. Every expert has been saying that to him since he wanted this plane, which he says was a gift. It wasn't a gift. The American people have paid hundreds of millions of dollars for this plane to retrofit it, and it's still not up to standards. But when it is introduced on cable news, they'd say there's Air Force One. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. You should be saying there is the plane that he is using as Air Force One, which was supposed to be a gift from Qatar. But it turns out not like they need to explain the whole thing, because then that plane becomes normal.

34:44It does. And also when they're doing all the Islamophobia about Abdul Al-Sayed or Zoran Mamdani, point out that Jared Kushner is right up the Saudis ass to the tune of billions of dollars. And Saudi Arabia, for the record, funded 9-11. So spare me all the selective Islamophobia when you want to use it, because right now the Trump administration is making billions, not for America, but for themselves personally, off the very same Muslim people that you claim are so dangerous. But when there are Muslims in America fighting for universal human rights, they can't stand up for them. It's just maddening.

35:25And when the history books are written on this, the cable news and Trump 2.0 is going to it's going to have a horrible indictment because they're supposed to be a guardrail. And I agree with you. They completely normalize every aspect of it. Every aspect. And it just infuriates me. And some of the questions I'm like, what is like, why are you why are you asking that question? Sometimes I wonder, not I wonder if the agenda behind it, even even look, let me tell you something. Even some of the people that they may think are liberal and they're on liberal networks. No, no, no, no, no. Not all of them.

36:02Not all of them. They're not. I'm looking to see that. Oh, there's a communist. They're going to a commercial break in the oh, this thing about the colonization. These communists are these democratic socialists. Now, Abdul El-Sayed has said he's not a socialist. He said that he says, I'm a capitalist. And so but they're trying to make him into one. But this whole idea now that they're saying that the Democratic Socialists or the Socialists on the left are trying to colonize the Democratic Party. No, they're actually trying to take the Democratic Party back to being the party of FDR. The corporatists are the ones that are that are colonizing the party in a post Citizens United world.

36:45What the Zorans and Abdul El-Sayed are trying to get it away from corporate interests, because Oklahoma, I mean, not Oklahoma. I have jet lag. The United States of America isn't really a democracy, is it? It's more of a corporate sanctuary. Nothing happens in this country without corporate blessing. And it shouldn't be that way. It should be the people should bless it. But anyway, Don, we could go on and on. I'm so sorry I missed you last week. Before we go, just one more thing. I think that Democrats and Republicans are in for a rude awakening in November of 2026. I mean, meaning the sort of centrist, toe-the-line Democrats and Republicans, I think that they are out of touch with what the American people want.

37:29And there's a reason that these candidates that you're saying are socialists or whatever, or maybe more on the progressive side, there's a reason that they're winning. And you're not, you know, you have a ten-year or you're just in your bubble and that you don't realize it. Sorry to interrupt. No, no, I agree with you. I think that you're right. They're going to be in for a very rude awakening. Don Lemon, I always love you. Safe travels. I missed you. I've missed you. You should take me with you next time. Look at your tan. I mean, damn, girl. I know. All right. I'll see you next week. The hair is herring.

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