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Episode Title
Marjorie Taylor Greene Slams MAGA As Trump's Cult Falls Apart
Overview In this episode, hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan discuss the apparent rifts within the MAGA movement, particularly focusing on Marjorie Taylor Greene's departure from the traditional MAGA rhetoric. The discussion emphasizes the implications of her new populist messaging and how it reflects a larger trend in American politics.
Key Topics
- Fissures in the MAGA Movement
- The hosts point out the growing divisions within the MAGA base, particularly in light of the authoritarian persona of leaders like Donald Trump.
- Observations of physical and mental decline in Trump are seen as factors contributing to the erosion of loyalty among his supporters.
- Marjorie Taylor Greene's Changing Stance
- Greene's recent statements suggest she is adopting a more populist approach, criticizing the government for prioritizing foreign aid over domestic welfare.
- She has highlighted issues such as healthcare and education funding disparities between the U.S. and countries like Israel, raising concerns about American taxpayer contributions.
- The Democrats' Response
- The hosts argue that Democrats are failing to address the concerns raised by Greene and others, creating a political vacuum that could be exploited by opportunistic figures.
- Discussion around Zoran Mamdani's success in attracting new voters indicates a potential strategy for Democrats to counteract Greene's narrative.
- Economic Populism and Its Implications
- Greene’s critique touches on the economic struggles facing working-class Americans, which could resonate in middle America.
- The hosts caution that if Democrats do not adapt their messaging to reflect these concerns, they risk losing this demographic to figures like Greene and Tucker Carlson.
Key Quotes
- *“Marjorie Taylor Greene is kind of going woke. And it is a populist message.”*
- *“The two-party system is extremely broken. It is failing all of us.”*
- *“If Democrats are not stepping in to fill this void of affordability, grifters like Marjorie Taylor Greene are going to step in and capture a lot of the MAGA base.”*
Critical Analysis
- The hosts underscore that while Greene's rhetoric is often filled with controversy, her emerging messages highlight real issues affecting American citizens, such as healthcare costs and education funding.
- Despite their disdain for Greene's overall views, they acknowledge the effectiveness of her populist approach in appealing to disenfranchised voters.
Conclusion Jennifer and Pumps emphasize the importance of addressing the void left by both major political parties. They advocate for a more robust Democratic response to populist messages that resonate with the working class, warning that without such a strategy, the party risks losing ground to polarizing figures.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04All right, there are fissures happening in MAGA because an authoritarian has to admit this toxic masculinity at all times. And if the authoritarian is seen as frail, think about kanks, you guys, bruised hands, swollen ankles, rambling dementia. The cult, the personality cult starts to fall apart. We're seeing fissures all over the place. Laura Loomer mad about the Qatari air base. Marjorie Taylor Green, who I've been talking to you guys about for about two months now, she sees the writing on the wall? Who is going to fill the void of the MAGA cult? And the reason this cult has been able to take off is because both parties, the Republicans and the Democrats, have been beholden to corporate interests, which have left so many working class people behind.
0:57And so Marjorie Taylor Greene is kind of going woke. And it is a populist message, economic populist message. She was on a podcast over the weekend. Let's listen to crazy-ass Marge. Play the clip. We have to continue to give them $3.8 billion every single year because it's for their defense. We have to fund their Iron Dome. But by the way, Israel has, they have state-funded health care. They have state-funded education, college education. Israel is not anywhere in debt like we are. They're in less than 400 billion dollars in their national debt. We're in 37 trillion dollars in national debt. So in the aid that we give them, it's very possible that their state health care and their state education, United States of America is paying for that.
1:50All money is fungible. Right. All money is fungible. Right. No one can ever say it's not. All money is fungible. That's right. Okay. Okay. So as you all can see, there is a void here. That kind of talk about Israelis having healthcare, free higher education. When you have Americans drowning in healthcare bills, their premiums are about to triple because of the government shutdown, which is funded, which is executed by her party, the shutdown. And if Democrats are not stepping in to fill this void of affordability, American taxpayers paying for services that are provided to Americans, grifters like Marjorie Taylor Greene are going to step in and capture a lot of the MAGA base.
2:37So what's happening on the Democratic side? You have Zoran Mamdani, who has spoken about this, won a primary, very competitive primary, brought a lot of new voters to the table, even had triple Trumpers cross over and vote for him. Well, Marjorie Taylor Greene, of all people, you guys, I'm just as shocked as everybody else. She sees the writing on the wall and she's from rural Georgia. And this type of message, you guys, will hit so hard in middle America that the United States taxpayers are funding healthcare abroad. We're funding bombs to kill kids abroad. We're funding higher education for countries abroad.
3:23She is onto something. Now, if you go to her Twitter page, there's still all the crazy shit in there. She is still fucking crazy, but she's an opportunist. And by Democrats not rallying around Zoran Mamdani and clinging on to preserve the status quo corporate dim, enter Donald Trump, enter Marjorie Taylor Greene. we will never fix this problem. The problem with the Marjorie Taylor Greene's, she doesn't give a shit about gay kids. She doesn't give a shit about black and brown Americans. And so it's a very dangerous vacuum that Democrats are leaving. All right, here is Marjorie Taylor Greene on funding wars abroad and neglecting the needs of Americans.
4:08Play the clip. so disgusted with Washington, D.C. I hate politics. The two-party system is extremely broken. It is failing all of us. And when I look at, you know, here goes another$100 billion to Ukraine or$30 billion to Israel, but yet nobody can afford health insurance premiums. And then I'm getting yelled at by Republican, my Republican colleagues for saying that out loud. I'm like, this is insane. Okay, what planet are we living in right now? And I know you guys are probably seeing this online where you see something Marjorie Taylor Greene says and you're like, yeah. And you'll see something Tucker Carlson says and you'll go, yeah.
4:52Why am I agreeing with these freaks? And there's multiple fronts to it. Number one, fissures in the cult. They are not staying loyal to the MAGA doctrine, which is obey Trump at all times. She is being defiant as fuck. So is Tucker Carlson and others. The governor of Oklahoma, where I'm from, said he did not support Texas sending troops to Chicago. So these fissures are very important. And the savvy MAGA politicians like Marjorie Taylor Greene are going to step in and capture people. Because at the end of the day, a lot of Republican voters would rather vote for a Republican who's saying stuff like that than switch parties entirely.
5:41And so I hope the Dems start messaging this wide and far as a party. Moving along, here's Marjorie Taylor Greene on Gaza. Play the clip. Hostages all day long, but for the love of God, these people in Gaza have been brutally murdered. And it's over the top. And the IDF is still unbelievably controlling and brutal to people at checkpoints. It's not just Muslims. It's also Christians that live there. It's everybody. Okay, so clearly she's having a moment and empathy is breaking through. And she's seeing she is one of the first to really have a huge departure from the cult. If the Democrats were savvy right now, they would be latching on that the cult is breaking apart.
6:39Donald Trump can't hold it together. J.B. Pritzker has had some excellent messaging. And he has said that the people around Trump are exploiting his dementia, like Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller is exploiting Kanks' dementia, and he's able to push through this language that Antifa or people that are anti-fascist, which I am, by the way, which all of you are, by the way, that somehow we hate America and our terrorists, which couldn't be further from the truth. So this is really smart messaging from Pritzker. It's really smart messaging from Marjorie Taylor Greene. But Marjorie Taylor Greene, at the end of the day, is a Christian nationalist.
7:20She is a nut. She is a homophobe. She is an anti-Semite. She is a racist. But Trump was all of those things. And he won president twice because Democrats leave this vacuum. And Democrats need to start messaging more about like all of these products we buy. Oh, this, you know, these Steve Jobs made the iPhone. He's so brilliant. When in actuality, laborers make the products that make the billionaires billionaires. And we have forgotten about the laborers. The Republican Party has demonized unions for decades, and so much so that now they're even demonizing teachers unions. Teachers don't make that much money in the United States of America.
8:08And now they have an entire political party that is combating their efforts to organize and get a livable wage. And I think that really is a window into a country's soul. How much do you pay your teachers that teach your kids? Okay, speaking of all of this, here's what Donald Trump's MAGA regime does. Put this up. The Department of Education wipes out special education office and shut down layoffs, union says. The agency cut nearly everyone who works to administer federal funding for the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, one staffer said. So this is a huge point that Democrats need to start making to MAGA while Marjorie Taylor Greene is making that point.
8:54And the point is, if you are in America, at some point, the knives will be pointed against you from this fascist regime. MAGA people have children with special needs. Special needs in public school education, in rural towns, in suburban towns are an integral part of our education system and show compassion and a way to integrate people with special needs into society. The cruelty is the point with these people. And these are policies that directly impact MAGA voters and the Democrats have to message and start filling the vacuum. Otherwise, we have the Marjorie Taylor Greene's, the Tucker Carlson's, which I think both of those people have presidential ambitions.
9:42And watch for this. The people who are breaking from MAGA right now, Kevin Stitt, Oklahoma, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tucker Carlson, do they have national ambitions? And the Democrats need to be five steps ahead of every single one of these people. And lastly, for years, Obama was going to come for your guns. Joe Biden's going to come for your guns. You cannot vote for these people. They're coming for your guns. And this is my point, MAGA. Just because you're a MAGA supporter, you are not exempt. MAGA is coming for your guns. Put up the tweet. AG Pan Bondi is creating a registry of gun owners and Dan Winslow retweets it and says, they told you Clinton, Obama, and Biden were going to do this.
10:31They did not. It's your pal Trump doing it. So don't tread on me, people. Where are you? I mean, this was in living in a red state where people are total gun nuts. This was a huge thing that Obama was going to take the guns or that they were going to have a registry, MAGA is doing it. MAGA is doing everything that they exploited for years saying that Democrats would do. And there are so many vacuums that are being left open from impotent Democratic leadership in the House and Senate. Some are rising, they are, but I think we need to look to the Pritzker, Gavin Newsom model to keep hammering at these people.
11:16Hammer about the guns. Hammer about they're wiping out special education because this affects MAGA voters too. We have to do everything we can to stop this authoritarian takeover. And I just want to say the Marjorie Taylor Greene messaging, I disagree with her. I think she's a nut. I think she's an opportunist, but it would be wholly naive to think that that type of messaging isn't going to hit hard with Americans in the middle of the country, even on the coast that are in suburban towns and rural towns. When people, when this is hammered, that United States taxpayers are paying to fund bombs that kill little kids, healthcare for Israelis, and higher ed for Israelis, which I support.
12:05I want every person alive no matter what country they live in, to have access to healthcare and access to education. And the United States taxpayer, the people who are trying to form labor unions to get health insurance that the MAGA is trying to beat down, those people have been dicked over by Democrats and they've been dicked over by Republicans. And it creates this void where you have very dangerous, insincere actors that walk right in and fill. All right. A great way to support Pumps and Me is to buy our book, Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. It's linked right below in the show notes.
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