Melania Done With Trump in Major Move, Erika Kirk Lashes Out After Being Humiliated

27 Jul 2026 · 14 min · 5 chapters

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In short

The hosts discuss MAGA/trad-wife and conservative media performances, focusing on Erica (Erika) Kirk’s “Make Heaven Chella” tour sermons, Melania Trump snubbing the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, and political nepotism around Darlene Graham replacing Lindsey Graham, plus Tucker Carlson’s anti-feminism claims.

Guests

Loren Piretra (Loren P), entertainment executive turned creator and host of The Loren Piretra Show (daily YouTube/Apple/Spotify). Background: described as an “undisputed leader” of Katie Miller/subscriber charts.

Key claims

Erica Kirk’s sermons are inauthentic “grift” content; protesters heckled her; she reads Charlie Kirk’s journal for marketing; Melania’s Christmas-in-July program forces volunteers to pay their own costs; Darlene Graham is “birthright” nepotism; Tucker Carlson falsely says women were happier in 1972.

Notable examples

heckler “you married Charlie Kirk” incident; “Jesus Chella” pastor offshoot; photoshopped “couch family portrait”; Save America Act pushed as Senate hostage tactic.

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Chapters

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Critique of Erica Kirk's Tour

0:45 to 2:52

Discussion on Erica Kirk's tour and her inauthenticity as a speaker.

“you read the book of psalms you basically read your entire day that's how i want you to live your life for Christ so on fire.”

Melania Trump's Snub of Trump

2:52 to 4:48

Analysis of Melania Trump's absence from a major event and implications.

“She also went on to like read Charlie Kirk's journal passages, which is just like, okay, hello, privacy.”

Discussion on MAGA Women and Hypocrisy

4:48 to 7:48

Exploration of various women associated with MAGA politics and their actions.

“successful with it too which is the worst part unfortunately okay and other MAGA women that are out of their minds.”

Critique of Carolyn Levitt's Public Persona

7:48 to 9:56

Examination of a video featuring Carolyn Levitt and perceptions of her character.

“that nobody knows other than the people that are close to you?”

Tucker Carlson's Views on Women

9:56 to 13:07

Discussion on Tucker Carlson's controversial statements regarding women and happiness.

“first off, to fight for the people of South Carolina and deliver on our conservative agenda.”
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0:04Okay, Erica Kirk continues to be the worst trad wife in history. She's back on tour and to talk about it with me is Loren P, entertainment exec turned creator and host of the Loren Piretra Show podcast, a daily show on YouTube, Apple podcast, Spotify and wherever you listen and undisputed leader of Katie Miller and sub count across all charts. Loren, how are you? so so good so great to be here kylie it's good to be with you okay so have you seen erica kirk she's back on her make heaven crowded tour which what the fuck is that name heaven chella jesus chella it's insane okay we've got a couple of clips from where here's the first one not the day to give up and i want you to live so on fire for christ that when you come home at night and you read the book of psalms you basically read your entire day that's how i want you to live your life for Christ so on fire.

0:56And that is how you will be rooted during the spiritual battle every single day. And yes, the battles will rage. They always do. But you trust God and you're fearless. You're not reckless, but you're fearless. We all have our race to run, but I just want you to be focused on the endurance of the race and not the acceleration of it. I mean, Lauren, were you raised with Christianity? No, I was like, I had to go to church culturally as an Italian American in the New York City metro. But my family was like, you just got to do this in case you want to get married in a church. And then eventually I was like, I've had enough.

1:37And that was it. Were you? Yeah, I was. So a lot of this week is like not that foreign to me. But what do you hear when you listen to this? I hear like first of all she is such an inauthentic public speaker and actor and it as we were chatting about before it's like great for business when Erica Kirk goes on a stage and says something absolutely ridiculous but it makes my skin crawl because how did we go from like her being a thirsty wannabe summer house extra to suddenly like giving sermons every other weekend but I guess anything for a grift yeah god's strongest warrior out here now that's very militarized speak too it is it's scary she's angry and i have good news at this thing she was slammed by protesters outside tons of people lying on the sidewalks and then there was a heckler that got kicked out which it sounded like all he yelled was you married charlie kirk which i'm like if that's an insult that gets you kicked out maybe you need to check yourself yeah and they had him arrested or at least booked because they were like, you're disturbing service.

2:44But define service because is Erica Kirk now sermoning and pastoring? I don't understand. And it only got weirder as she went on with that too. She also went on to like read Charlie Kirk's journal passages, which is just like, okay, hello, privacy. What? Haven't they been tweeting that stuff too? Like using his little diary for their own marketing and everything. Yeah, we've got another clip actually, Ryan, if you'll pop it up. We're all riddled with different choices in life, but there are two different lifestyles that you can live. You can either live a life that's characterized by rebellion and sin, or you can live a life that is increasingly characterized by repentance, by having that postured heart of surrender, which is way more of a powerful position to be in.

3:37none of this means anything at all none of those words mean anything she's just like stringing it again the other a bunch of like jesus-y speak right is that what's happening yeah those those are not complete sentences and like you said she's a bravo star she has been wanting to be famous i don't even know if we can count on two hands all the different shows she's tried to be on amazing race all bravo some pageants pageants this is she just wants to be famous and christianity usually is a really good way to get there these pastors and it's tax-free which is why we got to tax the church because there's something there with i think they're operating very much like turning point usa faith very much like a mega church oh yeah they probably see the scalability there the money and anything for a buck and she's preaching to this group of it's a lot of young people and they also have a pastor offshoot Jesus Chella just for pastors where they're spending a lot of time being like Erica didn't do it be nice to Erica Jesus and the Lord doesn't want you to question Erica and then they like go send them off into their own churches so they're trying to really like indoctrinate at scale here which is crazy I feel like they're a little bit successful with it too which is the worst part unfortunately okay and other MAGA women that are out of their minds.

4:58We've got Melania. I'm sure you saw that she snubbed Trump. She didn't show up to the White House Correspondents' Dinner, and she had no good excuse for it, which I think she just can't stand to be around him. That's why she's got Natalie Hart filling in. But what was she too busy doing? She's preparing for Christmas in July. First Lady Melania Trump announces opening of Christmas volunteer and performer applications. And in this, the selected volunteers receive no travel assistance. They have to cover their own transportation, hotels, and personal expenses while donating their time. So basically, we know she fucking hates Christmas.

5:35I think she has found a way for people to pay to decorate her house for her. It's like, can't you just take out of your like crypto funds? You have, they've increased their wealth so much during this time. And I, you know, when Melania does do these stunts where she just kind of disappears or sleeps in an entirely different floor of the White House. I'm like, okay, respect. But then you remember she's so complicit in this whole her husband existing thing. And it was crazy to see Natalie Harp, the diaper bag carrier at the White House correspondence. Like they're not even trying to hide it anymore.

6:11Oh, she's everywhere. She's everywhere. And she's in love with him. My thing, you just brought up a good point that I have to catch myself with sometimes is like when we talk about Katie Miller when we talk about Melania when we talk about Usha I'm like oh these poor women that are with these awful men they pick it they like it I wouldn't stay with someone that became a maniacal murderous human being so these women are just as complicit oh yeah they're married to genocidal maniacs and they live laugh love it because I Usha particularly I like look at Usha and I instinctually want to be like you're so educated you have like you must be you know truly just the hostage victim that you present as but then you watch her launch this podcast where she's reading children's books and and she's fully leaning in the door is there like you could run out and go but she's just constantly being disrespected by her husband and putting up with it well have you seen that MAGA people are whitewashing the photos of his family before they post them and share them no i missed that the couch family portrait yeah the couch family portrait oh my god that was photoshopped huh they're they're doesn't surprise me no and he puts up with yep he's okay with all of it um okay moving on to a third crazy bitch in this maga universe is carolyn levitt i don't know if you've seen this video i find it so bizarre ryan if you'll play this clip.

7:44Question. Okay, my question is, what is something about you that nobody knows other than the people that are close to you? Oh, no. Yeah. I don't know. Are you a funny person or are you a boring person? I don't think people realize that I am silly. I'm funny, I think. From a scale of one to ten. Well, because when I'm out at the podium, I'm like getting after it. But I'm not like that in real life. So, you know, you just have to get to know me to know the real me. She's actually a total dork. Hard watch. Hard watch. Oh, my God. Wait, that's not AI. That's real. That's real. Oof. I can't believe she's 28.

8:34Well, yeah. And married to her, like, 60-year-old landlord. She looks like a 50-year-old who's gotten a lot of work done, in my opinion. Why was she trying to be so fun and flirty? That made me want to wash my hands. I know. It makes you feel icky. And she's basically admitting a lot of people are taking that video and saying she's admitting that she's fake up at the podium, which I mean, duh. But I don't think she's this silly, cute, fun girl off camera. I think she'd be the worst. I think she'd be like the worst person, like sorority girl that isn't even cool, has no friends and has like nothing else going on with her life.

9:12and then is still like kind of riding that wave. I don't know. Would she peak? Yeah. And we don't, I don't need to see Caroline Levitt from that angle. That was, I'm good. No, and her hair. Like, no. All right. And then we've got Darlene Graham is having no trouble filling Lindsay's shoes or heels, I guess I should say. So she's stepped right into this. Donald Trump's posting, John Thune should not allow the United States Senate to leave town until it passes the Save America Act. Darlene chimes in. President Trump is 100 % correct. The Save America Act is top priority, and I will stay here as long as necessary to get it passed and signed into law.

9:53I came to Washington to fight. She didn't come to Washington to fight, first off, to fight for the people of South Carolina and deliver on our conservative agenda. I've seen people on the right even are pissed about her, and they're calling her a birthright Senate. What is it, Ryan? Senatorship birthright. That's amazing. I mean, like when this first happened, I was like, I'm sorry, who are you? If your biggest qualification is that you're related to Lindsey Graham, then yikes. Yeah, bad. Just good, good old fashioned nepotism. But what scares me is obviously the advantages of the incompetency here.

10:30And in the South, I'd assume we've got a lot of people who are voting based on name recognition, maybe low profensity voters or people who just like love racism in Israel so much that they're just going to kind of ship it no matter who it is so kind of scary there and it's also not a good it's not great that we keep peddling this save act bs because first of all we know it's already illegal for non-citizens to vote in federal elections and there's so little evidence that this is actually a real problem right so what we're going to just like gas up trump for the sake of disenfranchising women it's pretty crazy that we're here but doesn't surprise me no it doesn't and now he's gonna hold them hostage i guess in dc until it gets passed so um and then lastly i want you to watch this video of tucker carlson attacking feminism women in general want the man to make the decision, as you well know.

11:30And men who won't make, well, no, I do know. And I do know. And, and the women who won't admit that are not telling the truth. And, and in fact, the thing that I have noticed that women dislike most is men who won't make decisions, and they have contempt for them. And I've never met a woman who didn't feel that way. I've met a lot of women who pretend they don't feel that way. But in real life, I think that women see that as weakness, which it is, and they despise it. He also says in this video that women were happier in 1972 than they are now. Yeah, I saw the full clip. I was like, no, I'm quite content having my own mortgage, Tucker Carlson.

12:08Thank you very much. And this is a man who's clearly never had to send another man to the store for literally anything before because I don't know. Yes, I'm sure in a hetero partnership, you want your man to be able to make his own doctor's appointments, but I wouldn't trust a man to pick a pink color if my life depended on it. So he's unfortunately wrong. And yeah, he can have some good opinions on Israel and other things, but an L on this one, because what? Yeah. It doesn't make him not a piece of shit just because he's right every once in a while. And I also, I've got some things, women in 1972, they couldn't uh get access to birth control they were denied a credit card or required to have a husband sign it banks could reject women for mortgages and other loans marital rape was still legal in every state so no i don't women weren't happier men were happier yeah and like i don't know if you saw like even earlier in this clip he the reporter pressed him and was like don't you have daughters and he tried to like chuckle it off like oh i need privacy now how dare you ask me about the consequences of my own actions here as it relates to my family everyone in my family is excused from the terrible things i say about women he you know he's very confident in his incorrect opinions here which is kind of crazy and it's also like okay you you want to talk about 1972 let's talk about when men used to go to war what do they do now tucker carlson you sit behind a mic with like you're just talking shit all day you probably can't even do a push-up like how no way you want to go back in time like it wouldn't be good for you my guy no he wouldn't survive a day no all right lauren thank you so much for joining me and shit talking with me and you want to tell our listeners where to find you yes you can find me anywhere on the internet i am i am lauren p l-o-r-e-n and youtube spotify apple the lauren peritra show but find it anyway there thank you so much kylie thank you ciao Thank you.

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