In short
The episode discusses two main news topics: Melania Trump’s renewed denial of any ties to Jeffrey Epstein, and Second Lady Usha Vance’s appearance on a children’s reading podcast with Donald Trump.
Guest backgrounds
no guests are named; the hosts/panelists are the only speakers.
Key claims
Mark Beckman (Melania’s senior executive advisor) says Melania denied Epstein ties to empower victims, not herself; the hosts argue this is implausible and note former friend Amanda Ungaro’s allegations that Melania was involved via an “Epstein visa.” The hosts also claim Usha’s reading/podcast appearance is political trolling and that Trump is coached by aides (e.g., “human printer” typing his tweets).
Notable examples
Trump reading “mostly newspapers” and “stories about myself,” Oval Office clips with books, and Trump weighing clemency/pardons for Sean “Diddy” Combs.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMelania Trump's Denial of Epstein Ties
1:29 to 4:32
Discussion about Melania Trump's recent statements regarding Jeffrey Epstein.
“And then she has all of a sudden this press conference that was weird as shit.”
Usha Vance's Podcast with Trump
4:33 to 10:38
Analysis of Usha Vance's podcast featuring Donald Trump and the implications.
“The thing about Usha is it's really fascinating because she, her parents are immigrants and that's a common American experience.”
Usha Vance's Podcast with Trump
11:41 to 12:48
Analysis of Usha Vance's podcast featuring Donald Trump and the implications.
“There are so many more available now that smell so much better.”
Usha Vance's Podcast with Trump
13:33 to 13:51
Analysis of Usha Vance's podcast featuring Donald Trump and the implications.
“Do you ever think about switching insurance companies to see if you could save some cash?”
Discussion on Usha Vance and MAGA Base Racism
14:22 to 19:00
Exploration of Usha Vance's alignment with the MAGA base and its implications.
“I think Usha, I don't understand what's going on with all of that.”
Transcript
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1:28Remember when Melania Trump gave her unprovoked denial that she didn't have anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein? Like nobody asked for the speech. Nobody was even thinking about her. And then she has all of a sudden this press conference that was weird as shit. Well, it's getting even weirder. Pop this up. Melania Trump's most trusted advisor says the first lady frantically denied any ties to Jeffrey Epstein in a surprise April address because she wanted to be a quote champion for the victims. Mark Beckman, the first lady senior executive advisor, told Politico in a report published Friday that Trump's decision to spontaneously reject any connection to the infamous sex criminal was less about her and more about empowering Epstein's victims.
2:18Okay. I'm at the stage in this where like, it's so the lies have gotten so terrible. Like who believes this? Who actually believes this? I think Melania probably does. And the person who maybe who said that, cause you had to have to live in a world where like, you know, how pathological liars lie so much. They start to believe their lies. I think, is that where they are. I mean, this is just the fact that they're even talking about like, shut up. Your former best friend, Amanda Ungaro came out and said, you were a hooker that came here on an Epstein visa. I'm sorry. I meant an Einstein visa. Like all of the, the reason she came out is and said this is because Amanda Ungaro said she was a part of the Jeffrey Epstein sex trade, which I'm going to say this, I cannot stand Melania.
3:14I think she's an evil twat of the highest order, but I'm not inhumane. Like if she was 18, 19 years old, recruited from Eastern Europe, and then she ends up married to Donald Trump. You know, there's just, there's so much inhumanity and victimization about the whole Epstein thing. And to find out allegedly that Melania may have been a victim that then was passed up to Trump. That's why she She came out and gave the speech. Well, because that was right before Amanda Ngarra was set to release the evidence that she had or her testimony. But let me just say this. If Melania Trapp wanted to be a champion for the victims, she would march into the Oval Office and demand release of the Epstein files.
4:04She would be out every day with survivors demanding release of the Epstein files. But she didn't do that. just like be best against trolling on the internet. Her husband's the biggest defender. So please sell that shit somewhere else. We are stocked up on shit here. We know that that is a lie. And the fact that you even had to say it tells me just how badly you know that this whole thing for her is going. Completely. All right. And then the second lady, Usha Vance, you guys, Guys, I can't. The thing about Usha is it's really fascinating because she, her parents are immigrants and that's a common American experience.
4:46And she's Ivy league educated. She was a Democrat. And I remember when she stood on the stage at the RNC and said that she was a vegetarian. And I remember thinking, wow, I mean, and then like, you know, like it falls flat because this is the party where Ted Cruz, like when Kamala was the nominee, he takes to Twitter in an emergency video and he's like, Kamala Harris, you're not taking my cheeseburger. And it's like, Ted, we know nobody's taking your cheeseburger, big boy. No one wants to get in between. We got that, Ted. Okay. And so Usha is doing, launching this podcast where she's reading to children.
5:24And we all saw that cringy for JD Mance. It's like, good to see you. Good to see you. Now she's sitting with Trump, famous reader Trump, in the Oval Office. Okay. And she asks him about his reading. And a lot of people online were deducing that Usha was trolling Trump, that she knows, everybody knows that Trump is a famous non-reader. And so she asked him a question about his reading. Play the clip. Everything that you just described, all of these incredible accomplishments, they take a lot of reading. Do you have any time to read for fun these days? So I end up reading mostly newspapers. I usually read stories about myself.
6:15And it's just, I mean, here's the deal, deathbed confession era. I told you guys, he's going to start saying the truth all the time. Now he's just saying it like, yeah, I read newspapers. I read shit about myself, which then gives veracity to the entire human printer thing that Natalie Harp goes and makes him pitch picture books. She spends all hours with him. My mother sent me an interesting text and she studies all of this really closely. So you may remember during Trump 1.0, Trump was on truth social and Twitter, and he had a lot of spelling errors and punctuation errors all the time. And stormy Daniels was tweeting around the same time.
6:53And hers was perfect, like spelling, grammar, punctuation, nailed it. And now my mother pointed out that even these really late night tweets that are at two, three, four in the morning on Lysocial, spelling is excellent. Punctuation is excellent. So Natalie, the human printer that gives him stories about himself, I think she's with him right all night long because we have a record of what happens when he's driving his own car. and for the listener i'm talking about tweeting his own tweets and he can't spell very well he's horrible with grammar and now it's all perfect i mean it's crazy but but spelling they're nuts they're completely they're completely insane mentally psychologically and emotionally but they're spelled correctly they're completely detached from reality yeah But they are spelled correctly.
7:54I don't think there's any question that she is typing this shit for him and that they're together 24-7. I would say she probably sends out a grammatically correct tweet and then runs over and changes his diaper in the middle. And that's what's going on there. But here's the thing. Remember when he was like, oh, the books of the Bible are so important to me. What's your favorite book of the Bible? to Corinthians, which that's not how the super Christians say it. It's second Corinthians. But here's the thing. He runs around and he reads magazines about himself. And then he makes fake covers about himself on magazines.
8:34So he will not even read the Intel briefings. They have to make him Fox news clips. That's how dumb this guy is. And that's who he surrounds himself with people that will make his racial, horrible, hateful, diluted, unhinged texts spelled correctly. That's where we are. I'm just curious why he did Usha's podcast. I mean, when I first saw this clips, I was like, why is he doing Usha's podcast? Like what, what's going on there? Like what is, there's this weird promoting of these MAGA women and their podcast that is it's stephen miller's wife usha vance it's just it's some weird it's really the weirdest to sit there and watch usha vance talk to him and how they had all the books stacked up and he's like talk it's just it's it's so dystopian it's so like snl like the whole thing was like an snl skit here's another clip from it a man that says an outdoor pool was built for President Gerald Ford, and that's right on the side of the house.
9:42I don't get to use it. I don't know if I look good in a bathing suit. I haven't had a bathing suit in a long time. I'm too busy. I never, I mean, it'd be nice. I'm looking at these pictures of people swimming. Like, what are we doing here? What are we doing? What are we doing? Why is this on video? Why are we talking about this? What is going on? That is the second lady of the United States of America that gave a children's book to the president, who then, of course, the whole thing is about himself. There were other clips where he's like, Bill Clinton, he used to run. He had a little running track.
10:27I still like Bill Clinton. I don't know. Maybe I could go around and run. Every single thing, he always attaches back to himself. like what is Usha doing? What are the people behind the camera doing? What is he doing? I want to get like the world's largest hook, right? And just get them all and just yank them all off the stage. And then just put the boring brainiac people who know what they're doing in positions of power to govern all gas, no brakes. Like to your point, what was the, what was the goal of this? Like they sat down and said, you're going to do Usha's podcast. It's about reading. So here's what we want to step away from.
11:09This is our goal. We want you to do a B and C. It just seems like he was like, Oh, yeah, I'll do Usha's podcast. This is not the Manosphere. This is not you know, I'm a big tough guy rapists and criminals in 2020 election bullshit. So what was the goal? And, and then the Who's the audience? Who's the audience? And then do you think you achieved the goal? Usha, did you get out of that podcast? Do you think that children are more inclined to read now than they were? All right, listener, I have a little life hack for you. Change your laundry detergent. There are so many more available now that smell so much better.
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14:16coverage is not available in all states or for all vehicles and coverage selections. I want to know who watches her podcast, who listens to her podcast. Is it analytics? Is it children? Is it who is the audience? Because here's the fundamental problem. And I'm just going to be really frank. MAGA base is racist. Right. And Usha is an Indian woman. I think Usha, I don't understand what's going on with all of that. Could be an amazing second lady in a different world, but somehow she's aligned herself with all of this. And it could be for a multitude of reasons. She could be emotionally abused. I mean, who knows what all's going on?
15:04But the base is not going to be in on Usha's podcast. To me, oh, okay. We've got 7 ,000 subscribers. are kids going to watch this? Like, you know, our kids going to sit down and go, let's watch the second lady, Usha Vance. And then when I think about back to my days in Oklahoma, like these good old boys would be like, you ain't going to watch some foreigner. I don't care if she's second lady or not. I mean, that's just like, that's the world they live in. Do you remember pumps? And I watched this clip early on in our podcast and it was Vivek Ramaswamy when he was running for president in primary.
15:45And he sat down in this cafe in Ohio with these white people and they're Republicans. And Vivek's like, Hey, I'm a Republican. And he was like, so would you vote for me? And they're like, no. And he's like, why? And she's like, well, honestly, I just don't like the color of your skin. It was this moment where I'm like, that's, that's a huge driving force that keeps MAGA all coalesced together. And then when you get these other players that are carrying the water for the white supremacist sadly it's just going to be the first to drown i mean it's just i just that is so it's such a weird thing to watch these videos of her with donald trump and he's just all fluffed up can you get back to the steel shot of that with all the gold and the books surrounding him i mean that's just is that not the weirdest you've ever seen look at that just the oval office and what a dump truck he's turned it into just look at all that oh and then of course trump is weighing clemency for uh sean combs pop this up uh newswire he's weighing clemency for sean diddy combs per cbs and here's the deal of course he is i'm not shocked i'm not going to sit here and be outraged i'm not going to sit here in pearl pledge.
17:02He will pardon everybody that he can pardon. He is normalizing his base for the absolute dismantling of the rule of law. And the Republicans, I want to remind you, could stop this at any time. And there's going to be a lot of Republicans when Trump dies or when there's a blue tsunami that trot out and they that are currently in office. There's going to be a lot of them that trot out. Like I imagine Senator Thune and Lion Ted and Susan Collins, hopefully her ass gets beat. But that style of Republican, they're going to march out and they're going to go, we need to return the Republican Party to the party of Reagan.
17:46I mean, we just got off the rails here and we need to hold them to account that at any point you could have stopped it. the pardons, the grifting, the weird Usha reads to the president, the president talks about himself our at any point, you could have stopped these taxpayer funded naps, the war, and you chose not to you chose to normalize this. But my biggest one, she's not in office right now. But I guarantee you, it's gonna happen. Nikki Haley. Yeah, she is gonna rise up in the Republican primaries and be like, we've got to go back to the party of Reagan and it's going to be so nauseating. Of course she is.
18:28Nikki Haley is the one that worked in his cabinet that knew that he knew fucking nothing. And she sat down and shut up when it came to speaking out. And she's also the one that said, America's not as racist country. So you changed your name, Nikki Haley. These people live in la la land. They live in a world that they create that is perfect for them. And then you have all these outliers that are just fucked up, I guess. I don't know how else you would say it. All right. That's all we have. Like, subscribe, comment. We'll be back later with more news.
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