In short
The hosts argue Fox News and MAGA are “melting down” over Democratic attacks on Natalie Harp (described as Trump’s “right-hand woman”/access point). They claim Fox’s counterattacks focus on John Ossoff’s appearance rather than policy, and they broaden into allegations of hypocrisy, fascist tendencies, and anti-women/anti-DEI/anti-LGBTQ messaging. They also discuss unearthed OAN footage of Harp and speculate about what Trump may have on political figures.
Guests
No specific guests are named in the transcript. The episode features the hosts/co-hosts and references other media figures (e.g., Scott Jennings, Stephen Chung, Decoding Fox News, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Pete Hegseth).
Key claims
Ossoff’s attack is “legitimate” and effective; Fox’s response is appearance-based; Harp’s influence is central; Republicans’ deference is driven by compromising information (“Roy Cohn”); Pete Hegseth is a misogynist/anti-DEI figure tied to firing women and using transphobic language.
Notable examples
Harp’s old OAN clip attacking Trump critics; Scott Jennings criticizing Democrats’ message to women; references to “catering cart”/Air Force One movement; claims about Harp’s Liberty University background; Washington Post report on Hegseth traveling to Iowa; Hegseth comments about “DEI” amid alleged horrific conditions aboard ships.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAnalyzing John Ossoff's Attack
0:10 to 1:54
Discussion on John Ossoff's critique of Natalie Harp and Fox News's response.
“MAGA is in a full blown meltdown over John Ossoff and his attack.”
The Role of Women in MAGA Politics
1:54 to 4:35
Exploration of the expectations and scrutiny faced by women in MAGA.
“We have a president of the United States whose wife is missing.”
Critique of Natalie Harp's Qualifications
4:35 to 7:11
Hosts discuss Natalie Harp's qualifications and her ties to Trump.
“But this just stuck out to me when they came back to back.”
The Dynamics of Power in Trump's Circle
7:11 to 10:10
Analysis of the relationships and power dynamics within Trump's administration.
“We shouldn't be afraid to say that because it's true.”
Pete Hegseth's Ambitions and Influence
10:10 to 14:00
Discussion on Pete Hegseth's potential presidential run and his controversial views.
“She was probably raised with very authoritarian parents.”
Analyzing Pete Hegseth's Psychological Profile
14:00 to 16:33
The hosts discuss the psychological traits of Pete Hegseth, focusing on perceived incompetence and arrogance.
“right of religious chosenness is so on full display.”
Critique of Hegseth's Recent Statements
16:40 to 21:23
Discussion on Hegseth's comments regarding military conditions and the implications for marginalized groups.
“And then in closing, here is a video of Hegseth's message as Navy members starve on their ships.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04All right, my co-host is back and we are ready to rip city on MAGA. Let's roll. MAGA is in a full blown meltdown over John Ossoff and his attack. his very effective, very legitimate attack on Trump's stalker, approved stalker, Natalie Harp, of course. Laura Ingram, who we've decided, obviously, from other episodes, is incredibly horny. All she can do is talk about people's appearances and them being hot. Not policy, just this vapid stuff. Play the clip. That pancake bronzer and all of that rouge. We have an ambitious man, but one without a core. That's the most dangerous kind of politician out there.
0:48I love that she's talking about somebody else wearing makeup. When I saw this, that's exactly what I thought. Like you sit there and defend Donald Trump all day, every day with his diaper, his hair wig, his bronzer, his orange makeup, his makeup on his hands. And it's not even noticed or even looked at. And then she's the best they've got. Here's the problem for Fox News. The best they can do with John Ossoff is his appearance. And he's hot. We all know it. I know. I really hope they keep this attack up because he's objectively attractive for a politician. So if they're going to try to make him unattractive, I want to see, let's put up Randy Fine next to John Ossoff.
1:33Let's put up Mitch McConnell next to John Ossoff. I mean, hell, I would even say put up Marco Rubio next to John Ossoff on all fronts. Everybody's picking Ossoff. But the the my main takeaway is that he has entered their radar because his attacks are incredibly legitimate. We have a president of the United States whose wife is missing. The first lady is a wall. I don't really give a shit about that stuff. But if the roles were reversed and Obama or Biden were in office and Jill or Michelle went a wall, Fox News would be going bananas. So in turn, I would like to say, where is Melania? But furthermore, is there a national security risk that Natalie Harp knows so much information that during the catering cart fiasco, she was not initially put on the other plane with Trump?
2:29And she had a stage five meltdown on the real Air Force One. And they called like, hey, we have a problem here with Natalie. And so everybody's like, oh, God, we better move her. What does she know? What what is the risk that we always have to cave to Natalie's demands? And so I think that's something that the Democrats need to keep penetrating because the fox is getting rattled by it. It is effective. Who is this Natalie Harp? Why is she unmarried? Why doesn't she have kids? And again, listener, I don't care about this stuff, but all of the MAGA influencers deeply care about these things when it concerns women.
3:06And where is Trump's wife? And so, of course, Scott Jennings, Lady Jennings, as I like to call him, he is responding now to John Ossoff's attack. Pop this up. He says, this is quite a message for the Democratic Party to send to young women working in politics. Party of women, pretty ugly stuff. Angie. Okay. I see that and I contrast it to what Trump did yesterday to a female reporter from CNN when she asked a legitimate question in the Oval Office. And then his butt buddy, Stephen Chung, on his rapid response account brings her children and brings her children into an attack on her. And it is a First Amendment right.
3:54It is a legitimate question. And so for Scott Jennings, who had to have heard of this because he works for CNN or is it a consultant or whatever, and for him, the absolute arrogance to go on and attack us off for this. I mean, she has you hear over and over and over again. If you want to get to Trump, if you want to talk to Trump, you have to go through Natalie. Policy decisions are turned based on Natalie. Who the fuck is Natalie? She went to Liberty University, so I don't think she's probably an expert on much. And so for Scott Jennings, just the double dealing hypocrisy. I know it's rampant.
4:35It's every day. But this just stuck out to me when they came back to back. It's just absolutely. Scott Jennings is nothing but a piece of shit mouthpiece prick. and why CNN has him on the air when he is a lying motherfucker, I do not know. I just, I don't get it. Well, because a lot of these businesses are corporations and their vested interest is propping up the oligarchy. And so a lot of them are overt propaganda channels like Fox. And then there's softer propaganda channels that allow for this duplicity. As it pertains to women, which was what Scott Jennings was attacking there, this false equivalency that we cannot address a woman surrounding the president of the United States all of the time, who is pitching a fit to be next to him all of the time while his wife is missing.
5:39We need to drill this back and reorient it back that you are the party who claims that women need to be breeding, that women need to be at home as trad wives. So I want to know, and I think women should be able to do whatever they want to do. I support a 35-year-old woman working for the president of the United States. What I don't support is, is she qualified? Why is she melting down? Where is his wife? Where are these questions? So the duplicity and the hypocrisy is just another day in the Trump regime. But the reason why CNN continues to do this is because it pleases the president. You have a board of directors, CNN, that is terrified of the FCC and terrified of getting their license revoked.
6:25And instead of saying, let's tee it up, we're not doing this. We're journalists. Let's tee it up. Let's take it all the way, however far we have to go. Let's tee it up. Let's go. because we are not going to lie and provide a nonstop serving of false equivalencies on our channel. But they don't because they're somewhat fascist collaborators here. And then Decoding Fox News. I love you, Decoding Fox News. Shout out to you. You're my girl. She is such a queen. She unearths footage of Natalie Harp's old appearance on OAN. Play the clip. We can't talk about winning back the House and Senate in 2022 and the White House in 2024 if we don't act on the fact that we actually did win the White House and the Senate in 2020.
7:12We shouldn't be afraid to say that because it's true. We the people know America as we know it could be ending in the next two or four years, which is exactly what President Trump is warning of. They think if they can get President Trump, they can get the 75 million people to shut up and stand down.
7:34You know, here's the thing. The qualification to run the Department of Defense, to run the Department of Homeland Security, to be Secretary of State, and now to be Trump's right-hand woman who has the most access and the closest access to the President of the United States, is to kiss his ass and put your lips on his ass, regardless of his behavior, his decisions, his appearance, his cognitive health, his physical health. All you have to do is fucking lie. And that's what they do in Russia. I don't understand why anybody that is in Congress, Republican or Democrat, would look at this woman so closely tied to the president and say, you know, that's exactly who we need in politics.
8:20We need a smart, unbiased expert in the field. Like this just does not happen except in the upside down world of Trump world. The dumber you are, the more incompetent you are, but you have the ability to go on and lie with a straight face to the American people and kiss Trump's ass, then you're in the cabinet. You've got full access. It's just so stunning the way the Republicans have just let this country fall into fascism because they're too scared to go against Donald Trump. Yeah. And I've been listening a lot to Ruth Ben-Ghiat lately. And she says, which I do all the time, you should go subscribe to her sub stack, Lucid listener.
9:04She's fantastic. But to understand what's happening here is you have to kind of go back in Trump's life. And Roy Cohn taught Trump to get compromising information on people. And he's been doing it for decades, long before he was in politics. So when you see Marco Rubio, when you see Kevin McCarthy after the insurrections that went and kissed the ring, and you see all of these people bend the knee constantly, particularly Bill Cassidy, get every opportunity to leave the Senate with dignity, to leave the Senate with honor. And he didn't. So then it makes me question that. And Trump's previous relationship with David Pecker, who was the CEO of the National Enquirer, and they did this catch and kill.
9:51They would catch a story and then pay it off and then kill it. And I think some of that has to be going on to an extent. Now, I also think that there are just completely submissive, broken people, like in the instance of Natalie Harp. I think these, if you mentioned she went to Liberty University, we can look at the psychology of somebody who grew up like this. She was probably raised with very authoritarian parents. She probably went to a very authoritarian church. Liberty University is a very authoritarian university where the president of the university hired a pull boy to bang his wife while he masturbated in the corner.
10:30But yet the people at Citizens at Liberty University are not allowed to hold hands. So her living in duplicity and her living lies and her platforming false equivalency is very normal to her. It is her whole life experience. So Donald Trump, as repulsive as he is to us, for her, Natalie Harp, he's a very familiar figure to her. Because I've always said Trump always reminds me of evangelical men. They're completely broken. They think the rules don't apply to them. They do all of these crazy, crazy things without any accountability and all the forgiveness in the world. And so I just, I think it's interesting to look into a lot of these people in Congress and the Senate and what does Trump have on them?
11:19Because the submissive nature on all of them, it's just, I get Trump. That's the thing at this stage in the fascist takeover, I'm like, Bill Cassidy, could you not leave and go, peace out. I'm done. I made a mistake voting for RFK. This shit show is a disaster. No, he still continues to bend the knee. It's wild to watch. Exactly. Exactly. You're right. It has to go beyond they're just fucking cowards. It just, yes, they're fucking cowards, but it has to be more because when you, or they just have completely no soul. Yeah. I, I, there's just something to it i think that when you take the it in totality you think about marco rubio in particular yes remember the first like two weeks of our month two months he just has you could it was like we we watched his soul drain from him live on television with ever now he's gotten more comfortable with it but i remember those first days and it was just like what does he have on him.
12:25What is happening here? But this is hilarious. Pete Hegseth, I think he's going to throw his name in the ring for 2020. Pop this up. The Washington Post, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is traveling to Iowa in his personal capacity that Pentagon said, further fueling speculation that the former Fox News personality is mulling a run for president at some point. And I say, Let's tee it up. For sure. Run. Because one very underreported story in the mainstream media, it's been covered really well in independent media, is the pastor of Pete Hegseth. And this guy is evil beyond all measure. And he is a full-blown woman hater.
13:14And he has a lot of influence over Pete Hegseth because Pete Hegseth is actually carrying out this man's vision of depriving women of progress. And Pete Hegseth is doing that in the military. He is arbitrarily firing women, particularly black women. And we know that Pete Hegseth himself is a woman hater because his very own mother sent him a letter begging him to stop abusing women. Well, and he had to, you know, he has NDAs. He's had to pay people off. I mean, it's just one story after the other of this guy's misdeeds. And I read an article probably six months ago that said he had 2028 aspirations.
13:58And I just thought the combination of arrogance and confidence, hubris, and like this divine right of religious chosenness is so on full display. It's very similar to Trump, you know, in a lot of ways, except the religious element of it. But I just, I would love to do a psychological case study on Pete Hegseth because the incompetence and arrogance is just like, I've never seen anything like it. I can do it. I can shortcut you. I can shortcut it for you. right okay late on me low testosterone uh bedroom performances um yeah a lot because this whole focus on i think it's really interesting this whole focus on we are going to do gender affirming care for all of these men but also on the same token we oppose gender affirming care for trans people i mean just this is a completely broken person who i think has massive inferiority complex Oh, for sure.
14:56And he's an addict. He, he's, he has all of that 10 foot tall and bulletproof narcissism of a, an untreated addict. Um, and so, and just, I, there's, he's just a big, big, big woman hater. Um, lots of issues there on that regard. All right, listener, when you get to be middle-aged like pumps in me, you really have to stay on top of your medical appointments. And it's so difficult to find out what doctor you should see. It's like a needle in a haystack. All of that has changed because of this one specific app called ZocDoc. You literally log into it. You put your insurance card into it. It searches your neighborhood for in-network doctors.
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16:49And then in closing, here is a video of Hegseth's message as Navy members starve on their ships. Play the clip. Get rid of DEI at the Defense Department.
17:10At the Department of War, we do training, not training.
17:19It is a day and night difference. Training, lethality, accountability, discipline, readiness, the bedrock of what it means to be an American warrior. Okay. I've heard enough. I've heard enough. It's so gross. The fact that right now we have service members on two different ships that are living in horrific conditions that are so horrific that the idea of throwing themselves overboard is something that is more appealing than staying on the ship. And he is up there using incredibly bigoted, transphobic language and stirring up that audience is so incredibly un-American. And I just want to say, I don't want to give too much credit to anything he says, But I just want to say to all of our viewers and listeners that I see you and I hear you when this administration attacks DEI.
18:17It is just a more polite way for them to not use the N-word. And I want you to know I value diversity, equity and inclusion. All of those things make my experience as an American better. They are a net positive in my life. and they are net positive in almost every American's lives. The problem is when you get to a Pete Hegseth, it's when they see Secretary Lloyd, his predecessor, a black man who was really one of the unsung heroes of the Biden administration, incredibly qualified. That really hits a dagger at Pete Hegseth and at Donald Trump because his black excellence really exposes their white inferiority.
19:08And so I just, he says a lot of really ugly, horrible, racist things, but I just, I think it's important now and again to just stop. And our black listeners, our immigrant listeners, our trans listeners, I see you, I hear you, I see what you're going through with these news cycles. And I just want you to know that you have allies and what you're hearing is racism, what you're experiencing is racism, and we are in this fight with you. No, I completely agree. And it's so, what this administration has really perfected is they throw marginalized groups or minorities under the bus over qualifications and abilities when they themselves, this cabinet is the least qualified group of people in cabinet positions, I dare say in history, because they're, I mean, Pete Hexeth is so unqualified to be in his position as is, you know, go down the list, Sean Duffy, you can't even name them all.
20:18And so I agree with you. This is about hurting minorities. It's about hurting gay people. It's about hurting the LGBTQIA plus community. It's about hurting women because you can't be a white supremacist superior when other people are more qualified and more competent at their jobs than you. So the answer, of course, is just to get rid of them. Yeah, it's really difficult to watch. And I say that as a person sitting here with privilege and a complexion that is going to be one of the later people that they go after. But I just want to remind everybody of the Mike Pence lesson, all of the white privileged people that are seeking refuge in this political party.
21:01At some point, when you support a politics that doesn't lift everybody up, those politics will come after you and your children and your loved ones as well. All right. That's all we have. Please preorder my book, Not Today, Fascist. Like, subscribe. We'll be back later with more news.
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