In short
The episode argues that MAGA leadership is driven by cult-like influence and manipulation, and that billionaires are building “walled” ultra-rich enclaves while Democrats fail to hold anyone accountable. It also criticizes JD Vance’s behavior and the “trad wife” trend aimed at young women.
Guests
Lee McGowan, political influencer and host of “Politics Girl,” and best-selling author of “A Return to Common Sense.”
Key claims
JD Vance is an inauthentic “vessel” for whoever benefits him; “trad wife” messaging is a recruitment pipeline that helps erode women’s rights. Tulsi Gabbard’s politics are portrayed as controlled by cult leader Chris Butler (citing Washington Post document review). Stephen Miller, Katie Miller, and others are framed as emotionally broken and puppeteered by power brokers (Heritage Foundation/Federalist Society figures). Billionaires (e.g., Howard Lutnick) are described as mentally disordered hoarders who want Epstein-like “islands” and Latin American beta tests.
Notable examples
JD Vance’s “trash talk” lecturing clip; Gabbard’s alleged Butler influence; references to Jenny Thomas; Lutnick “pussy” quote; Jared Kushner/real-estate plans; Albanians’ protests and “pushing crates downhill”; UFC brawls on the White House lawn; Colombia election and “Honduras Gate.”
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussing Vice President JD Vance
0:00 to 0:20
The hosts critique JD Vance's recent comments on international relations.
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Discussing Vice President JD Vance
0:54 to 1:26
The hosts critique JD Vance's recent comments on international relations.
Trump and JD Vance's Political Moves
1:26 to 2:54
Analyzing JD Vance's political maneuvering and his relationship with Trump.
“So when they say things that aren't true, the president is going to respond to it.”
The Problematic Nature of JD Vance
2:54 to 4:02
Discussion on JD Vance's inconsistencies and lack of authenticity.
“he's making these decisions for himself.”
The Rise of Trad Wife Ideology
4:02 to 6:06
Exploring the troubling trend of women embracing traditional roles in politics.
“There's nothing about him that's authentic.”
Generational Impact of Trad Wife Ideology
6:06 to 7:34
Discussing how the trad wife trend affects younger generations.
“me for the youth because it's almost like they're one generation removed from what I witnessed my mom go through, what I witnessed my grandmother go through.”
Marginalization of Women's Voices
7:34 to 8:00
The hosts discuss how societal norms silence women's experiences.
“I think that the 19-year-olds that are romanticizing this and the early 20-year-olds that are romanticizing this thing is one thing.”
Tulsi Gabbard's Cult Connection
8:00 to 10:12
Investigating Tulsi Gabbard's ties to a controversial figure and cult.
“He is everything they have said we're not.”
Exploring Cult Mentalities in Politics
10:12 to 12:14
Discussing how emotional instability can lead to cult-like behaviors in politics.
“long time ago, and basically said that she felt like she was compromised by Russia.”
Billionaires and Mental Disorders
12:14 to 14:00
Analyzing the mindset of billionaires and their impact on society.
“I think they have been propped up because they are emotionally broken, because they are able to be puppeteered.”
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The Billionaire Mentality
14:00 to 16:48
Explore the psychological mindset of billionaires and their hoarding behavior.
“yeah i'm his 25 billion dollar and everybody has just a knee slapping moment and how hilarious it is and can you imagine just for briefly if obama or biden were referring to somebody as their 25 $5 billion pussy.”
Building a New World for the Rich
16:48 to 20:30
Discussion about the creation of exclusive cities for the wealthy and their implications.
“Like that's why they're taking away our healthcare and they don't care if we get Ebola and all this kind of stuff.”
Jared Kushner's Influence
20:30 to 23:10
Analyze Jared Kushner's political power and his real estate ambitions in Gaza.
“But I honestly feel like they don't care.”
Accountability in Politics
23:10 to 26:04
The need for accountability among political leaders and the Democratic Party's role.
“So when they show up, they're like, this isn't enough doors.”
Cultural Decline and Change
26:04 to 28:06
Reflect on the cultural issues in America and the importance of new political leadership.
“I'm like, because it's a metaphor, right?”
Societal Degradation and Political Change
28:06 to 28:36
Discussion on the degradation of society and the need for different political leadership.
“I think that's what we sort of saw at the UFC.”
Accountability in Leadership
28:36 to 29:07
The importance of holding leaders accountable for delivering on promises.
“We need to put them in power and show that you get a higher minimum wage, that you get health care, that you have paid universal child care, that you get parental leave like every other country.”
The Role of Politicians in Society
29:07 to 29:46
Highlighting the need for incorruptible politicians and accountability in governance.
“So yeah, no, I think people have lost their minds, but I think it's a smaller group than we think.”
Facing Uncomfortable Truths
29:46 to 30:16
Acknowledging unpleasant truths in governance and the need for transparency.
“You can't just be like, well, we can't do anything.”
Matriarchy and Centering Vulnerable Groups
30:16 to 30:55
Discussing the benefits of a matriarchal approach in leadership focused on the vulnerable.
“People are like, well, that is horrendous, but let's do it, right?”
Integrity and Community Values
30:55 to 31:29
The idea that integrity in leadership can influence the community positively.
“you're being held accountable because I can promise you, if you put a matriarchal idea, not necessarily women, but a matriarchal idea in charge, you're not going to have a rape island, right?”
Transcript
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0:35joining me today on iHip News in studio is Lee McGowan a political influencer behind you've seen her kitchen rants and the host of politics girl and best-selling author of a return to common sense that would be nice wouldn't it I mean wouldn't it Lee welcome to New York how are you I'm really good I am so glad we're finally doing this I know I said when I met you I was like I feel like we're already friends because our vibe is exactly the same like I feel like if you and I had met in like high school we'd be like girl right immediately and everyone would be like those two are very mouthy we would have been in big trouble I know I know okay speaking of mouthy let's go off on little vice president Pris pants eyeliner wearing JD Vance in this here he is in Switzerland just cannot help but make an ass of himself play the clip What we told the Iranians yesterday is when you guys engage in what us millennials might call trash talk, you can't expect the president of the United States not to respond and not to correct the record.
1:37So when they say things that aren't true, the president is going to respond to it. I'm going to respond to it. Americans are going to respond to it when they make threats. OK, I've heard enough. I know. What do you want to take of him lecturing people on trash talking? I mean, lecturing him on like Donald Trump is going to be one setting the record straight. You're like, JD, are you kidding me right now? Like we spend 500 hours a day trying to correct Donald Trump. Like the guy says whatever he wants, it comes out of his head. And then we're all like, that sounds very reasonable, you know? So no, this is ridiculous.
2:09But I think JD is clearly on like a world tour to be like, I'm perfectly fine. If something happens to him, look at me, what a leader I am, right? He's got orange hair makeup on now. He's wearing tons more makeup. Yes. he's doing his book tour which is very peculiar to be a sitting vice president doing a book tour right like get it you have a job bro like right you know do your job and it seems like everywhere they send jd people fail you know like they send him to hungary right before the event and don't you think trump's dicking him over intentionally don't you think he gets off on this watching jd vance face plant i mean i hope so but i think donald trump is so busy looking in the mirror he has very little time to do anything else i mean look jd is i find jd an embarrassment because jd he's smarter than, you know, Donald Trump is in this for Donald Trump.
2:53And everyone knows that he's making these decisions for himself. How can he get richer? How can he get more powerful? But JD is in it for whoever is paying the bills. JD is Teal's man. JD is whoever is who he wants to be at the time. You know, he's a liberal, then he's a conservative, then he's a never Trump guy. And now he's, you know, the cleanup man. So, I mean, I don't know what. He's changed his name three times. I mean, the guy has no idea who he is and none of us do either. Right. I always say that he is the country's biggest prostitute. And this is big news on the foothills of Melania Trump's former best friend, Amanda Ungaro, saying that Melania was a two-bit hooker.
3:31But I still think that J.D. Vance is more of a prostitute than Melania because this man basically believes in nothing. This is his third name change, his third religious change before we get to 40. Yeah. And also, I mean, consider who he married, right? He married a woman that was perfectly happy in her religion, perfectly happy, you know, immigrant family. And now he's anti-immigrant, anti her religion. You know, she's trying to be a trad wife that got pregnant for, you know what I mean? Like the whole thing of like, now you're changing the people around you. He is an unfortunate creature because he's, he's not a real person.
4:05There's nothing about him that's authentic. What do you make of this whole MAGA trend now where the women are, it's like a script get pregnant have a podcast preach trad wife ideology while doing your full time job you see Erica Kirk Katie Miller Usha Vance has this like have you seen it that time story thing it's like a hostage situation it is the most unfortunate thing like if you've ever we both have children yeah I have read to children there are a hundred thousand people in America that would be better and more kind and sweet reading to children. This is not this woman's gig. There's a reason she did better in school than JD.
4:47There's a reason she was a top lawyer, right? She's a badass. And she's completely domiciled herself to be this person that JD needs her to be. And she'll never be what JD needs her to be because she's not a white woman, right? This is problematic for him at this point. So she's trying to do everything to fit into a box that she will never fit into, which I feel like happens to women all the time. We're like, if I could just make myself, you know, if I could just make myself smaller or fit into this box, and I think it's exhausting. You should be who you are. You're smarter than him. You're better than him.
5:16You had a better job than him. Go back to that. Show women who they should be. This trad wife thing is terrifying to me because it's, it's almost like, you know, they're grabbing all these teenagers, right? I've seen a ton of 19 year olds that are like, I'm, you know, I'm 19 years old and I'm married and I just love my life. And I have my iced coffee and then I make my husband his breakfast and then I go to Costco for the day and I'm like uh and Jessica Valenti who has a you know a podcast called abortion every day she does so much work in the anti-abortion space she was like where are all the middle-aged trad wives where are theirs podcasts right because they don't exist you're not going to find some woman being like I absolutely love that I gave up all of my autonomy and and I don't my husband left me and then I had no career and we don't see those podcasts.
6:00We see these tiny girls making cause playing as fifties housewives. And it terrifies me for the youth because it's almost like they're one generation removed from what I witnessed my mom go through, what I witnessed my grandmother go through. And they were both like, don't do this. Don't choose this. This isn't what I wanted. It's just what was expected of me. And I feel like I was the first generation as a Gen X to be told I could be anything I wanted to be working girl styles, you know, like wearing my power suit with my running shoes and going to work and being a mother. And, you know, and you realize as time goes on that you can't have everything all at once, right?
6:36You can have everything, right? I was a stay at home mother, trad wife, like, really, if you look at it, my husband worked, I didn't work, I stayed at home with my son until he was 12. And I'm so pleased that I did that. I only could have one child. And I'm so pleased I was able to spend that time with him. But my brain, it atrophied. I mean, I went bananas at home. If I had to do a train for one more, I was like, and he's like, that's not the right voice for Thomas. Mommy really has to go empty the dishwasher. You know what I mean? Like I was losing my mind. So by the time he was 12 and I went back to work, I was a far better parent, I think, because I was authentic to myself and to my child.
7:19I'm glad I got to do both, But I would never tell some young girl to just give up everything to do that. And that's what these people are telling them because they want to take away our votes. They want to take our rights. And by the way, you know who doesn't fight back? People who have young children at home because they can't. I think that the 19-year-olds that are romanticizing this and the early 20-year-olds that are romanticizing this thing is one thing. But I appreciate that Katie Miller and Usha Vance, who are older and already have, I think each is on their fourth child with people in my opinion that just have no business breeding both steven miller and jd vance we don't need more of these types of people the fact that they are positioning themselves as aspirational women i think there's going to be a backfire to that because they're so unlikable katie miller lecturing people about anything it's just it's staggering to me and then you get to Stephen Miller who is consumed with James Tallarico I have never seen a man it is like single white female type situation Stephen Miller's obsession with James Tallarico is so homoerotic by nature what he wears what he eats how his haircut is how he looks like it is creepy it is so creepy the obsession he cannot shut up about it yeah I I think because James Tallarico is freaking out the extreme right wing, right?
8:46Because he is white. He is straight. He is a Christian. He is everything they have said we're not. You know, we're these blue hair liberal freaks that want to give, you know, sex changes in schools. You know what I mean? Like, come on. You have to sign 500 forms to get your kid to have a Tylenol as if they're having like a full surgery at school. Yeah. But, you know, they've talked to us for years about how crazy we are and how we're letting our kids dress like furries and go to bathroom in like litter boxes. and then here comes this guy who comes along totally normal pastor kind good they were like he's probably gay and then they show his really hot girlfriend and everyone's like oh god no he doesn't eat meat like they have nothing on him and they know they're in trouble in texas they know they're in trouble across the country right which is why they're spending so much time trying to like ruin voting for everyone be it from gerrymandering to like ruining the post office to whatever that you know everything because they know they're not popular so they have to attack things that make no sense it's the culture war stuff is all they've ever had yeah and you can see that stephen miller is like really clinging on to that like he says stuff like clinging on to the the balustrades with his feet he's like i don't know what gender uh james tallarico is and i'm like bitch please nobody knows what species you are i mean it's just utter insanity but i want to shift gears slightly and talk about another maga woman uh tulsi gabbard and as you know tulsi used to be a Democrat.
10:08And I mean, ish questionable. Hillary Clinton whistle blew about her a long, long time ago, and basically said that she felt like she was compromised by Russia. And in fact, she was just one degree from that. Pop this up. This is an utterly insane story. 25 ,000 documents reviewed by the Washington Post indicate that throughout Tulsi's career, her political moves were controlled by her guru, cult leader Chris Butler. This woman was leading the world's largest intelligence apparatus. And so here's some details for you and the listener. Butler himself has reportedly condemned US intelligence and defense agencies as power-hungry institutions run by madmen.
10:57And I would say that probably wasn't true 10 years ago and is certainly true now. Between 2014 and 2016, the Post found dozens of instances in which Gabbard echoed exact talking points outlined in Butler's group. Gabbard's own aunt has alleged that her 2020 presidential bid was the result of Butler's pursuit of political influence. Gabbard announced her resignation two days after she was informed the story would be published, according to the Daily Beast. And this reminds me of another woman, MAGA woman, that has been reported was in a cult. And this is the wife of Clarence Thomas, Jenny Thomas.
11:36Jenny was in a cult long before MAGA and got deprogrammed. And then, of course, we know that then she was in the MAGA cult. She was a big ringleader of the insurrection. Despite her involvement in it, Clarence refuses to recuse himself from anything pertaining to Trump. But what do you make of these mentally unstable? There seems to be a through line from Stephen Miller to Katie Miller to Donald Trump. These people are all broken, emotionally stunted, broken people that have ascended to controlling our federal government. Yeah, I don't think if we look at it like that, I don't think they have ascended.
12:17I think they have been propped up because they are emotionally broken, because they are able to be puppeteered. because if I am a vessel in which for you to put your cult ideas, for you to put your religious ideas, for you to put whatever, and I don't have any critical thinking to say, that seems weird, or why is it like that? Or I'm going to question this. Then I am a perfect vessel for the people that are smart, like the people at the Heritage Foundation, the people at the Federalist Society, these guys who really are brilliant geniuses. Say what you want about Mitch McConnell. The guy's a brilliant evil genius.
12:50Totally. The Leonard Leo running the Federalist Society, brilliant evil genius. Russ Vogt at the Heritage Foundation, brilliant evil genius. And they take a look at the people that could be most manipulated, people that are most drawn to cults, people who are most drawn to like, I don't know how to feel. And you're like, you're going to feel like this. They're like, okay, great. Those are the people you ascend. People like we were talking about J.D. Vance, people who are just like willing to completely change their personality to fit the moment those are the best people to control so if you see the people in charge as really being puppeteered because they were the most available vessel then that makes more sense it's not that these people who have cult mentalities ascend it's that they were pulled up by people who saw them as a vessel yeah i i think that's completely true i think you partnered with ruth ben ghiott yeah and me too and she says that they pick people authoritarians that are easy to bend that are easy to manipulate and you look at howard lutnik it's been revealed that ben mycelus was reporting that he trump calls him his and howard lutnik responds this man's a billionaire and he says yeah i'm his 25 billion dollar and everybody has just a knee slapping moment and how hilarious it is and can you imagine just for briefly if obama or biden were referring to somebody as their 25 $5 billion pussy.
14:15I don't know that Jesse Waters would live. I think he would immediately, the heart rate would just go up. I think he'd just die. How do we do it? How do we get someone to refer to, how does we get Obama to say that out loud? No, look, I think the thing is, is that being a billionaire itself is a vessel. People who need that much money. I always say, like, if you think of billionaires as hoarders of money, like if I went, you know, if you went into my house and I had 10 ,000 typewriters, you'd be like, Lee, this is too many typewriters. Why do you have all these? This is problematic. No one could ever use this many.
14:48And I was like, I need them for everything. You don't understand. You can barely walk through my house. It's a hoarder mentality. It's when you just have needs too much of the same thing. I think billionaires in their own right have some sort of mental disorder that says, hey man, I cannot get enough money. I cannot do it. And you see these women who are given money, people like Mackenzie Bezos and these kind of They can't give it away fast enough. They're like, let's replant the trees. Let's help women's rights. Let's do this. When Mackenzie Bezos got divorced from Jeff, I think she had something, and these are not correct numbers, but something like$26 million or billion dollars,$26 billion, let's say.
15:24Okay. She's given away$21 billion. She now has$46 billion because money begets money. Money makes money. So even if you're trying to give it away, once you get to a certain level, it's still making you so much money. The fact that Elon needs to be a trillionaire, that's a mental illness, truly. And now he's collecting children, right? Now he has to be like the father of all children, right? Like it's a, it's a mental disorder. So I think that the billionaires themselves, if you're talking about Lutnick, I mean, we know Lutnick was on the island. We know like you get to a certain point where like nothing matters because you have so much money.
15:59You're not living in the same world as us regular humans. You don't need the same healthcare. You don't have the same problems. Even if you get sick, there's a million people taking care of you. So they don't live like we do. And then they start thinking outside the box. Like it's hilarious that I'm his pussy, right? It's hilarious that we go to islands and like party with 12 year olds. Isn't this fabulous that we can do this? And you're like, no, it's not. yeah that's why it's so terrifying that they want to build these you know crazy cities they're doing it right now as a beta test in latin america right that's why they're trying to take over all the democratically controlled latin american countries yeah because they're building what are essentially you know elysiums i don't know if you ever saw that movie with matt damon elysium it's like all the rich and beautiful people live just above the earth in this perfect utopia and then the rest of us are sort of fighting for scraps and water and such below right um i think that's what they're trying to build.
16:47These worlds in which they exist and the rest of us can die for all we care, right? Like that's why they're taking away our healthcare and they don't care if we get Ebola and all this kind of stuff. But they're building these cities in Latin America right now as sort of a beta test. Walled cities for the 1%, for the ultra rich that will have high speed trains between them. And to me, it's like a little Epstein Islands, right? That's what they're trying to create where there are no laws from that country that apply within that city. That's the world these people live in and they are sincere about it.
17:16The election that just happened in Colombia, like that's Trump's choice, right? We went in and took out people that we didn't want there to be the leader as a warning, right? This is terrifying. There's an entire thing going on called Honduras Gate right now that not a single American knows about because they're not, it's a Latin American story, but it's about how Trump wants to take over, you know, North and South America, right? So like we need to think far outside the box because the people they're putting in charge are these vessels to create this world that none of us will like and they will thrive so in that same vein jared and ivanka the island that they discovered they were on their friend's boat some billionaire a roth child yeah which is important i think i do too and then they hiked up barefoot and uh just thought oh my gosh the potential we have to you know um ivanka talks like this it was we're gonna unlock all of the potential my husband and i are so anyway the albanians have had it they're madder than hornets they have been on a 21 plus day protest and i support them and now uh here's what they're doing they're pushing crates downhill play this clip here they are pushing shit downhill they are furious because apparently some of their country has been developed before, and it's kind of this soulless, lifeless villas, and they know that their government is corrupt and doing some double dealing with Jared Kushner.
18:48So what do you make of this? And also, can we discuss that Jared Kushner, who is basically our Secretary of State, he has more power than Marco Rubio. So right now, Jared Kushner is babysitting J.D. Vance abroad. jared kushner one thing that he and his wife have in common both of their dads are felons jared kushner's dad and ivanka trump's dad they're both felons he got two or three billion dollars from the saudis he now you know has more deals going on he's the guy who said you know we need to unlock the potential real estate development potential in gaza you know these are people's homes poor people's homes and he wants to just raise it what do you make do you think there's going to be a backfire.
19:32They seemed so much more emboldened and brazen about their wealth and the way she so casually spoke about how they were going to develop this island, a multi-billion dollar project. Yeah. Look, I don't think American media, that's why I think shows like yours are so important because I don't think American media is doing us any favors. You know, they had an article recently, I want to say in The Atlantic, but I don't know if that was true, about Bezos' second wife, right? And Lauren was like, why are we apologizing for being rich? Maybe we should just be happy that we're rich. It's like a new vibe they're trying to sell us.
20:05This vibe that like the billionaires deserve it and they're different than us and they're more special than us. And that's how they see it. I personally think it's a mental disorder, but that's how they see it. That they could come to an island that was literally a military base. Like she's walking barefoot somewhere where there's landmines, like, come on, please, please, please. The Rothschild drove you right there and said, do you want it? And she was like, I do, I do want it. You know, Ariana Grande style. I saw it. I got it. Like that's where they're at. But I honestly feel like they don't care.
20:33They don't care about the poor people that they're going to. This was all a plan. Raise Gaza, take it down, build luxury. You know, the what did they call it? The Riviera of the Middle East, right? That was the plan from the beginning. It was Bibi's plan. Bibi who stayed in Jared Kushner's bedroom when he was at his house. Like it was Bibi's plan. It was Jared's plan. Trump went along with whatever he was told to go along with. He does not care. He wants power and he wants people to tell him he's a special boy. He's not making big plans, right? He's not like, oh, you know, I'm going to take over the Middle East and they say, we're going to have a great real estate development.
21:05We're going to name it after you. He's like, cool. He's not thinking of that. This is Jared. This is all these people. Think about who we sent to negotiate with Iran, right? It was Jared and Howard, right? And Whitcoff and JD. None of them are State Department officials. None of them are Middle East officials. None of them speak the language. And that's who we sent. We're not serious as a country with this leadership. We are serious about making sure that billionaires make tons more money, take over countries if they want to, and build whatever they want to for their other super rich friends. And it really should have a backlash.
21:42What the Albanians are doing is brilliant. I totally support them as well. And people often say, well, why don't they do this in America? If America is so unhappy, why aren't they doing this? And I'm like, I think people forget how incredibly humongous America is. Like we can't just show up at our Capitol. People are like, you know, when we all gathered in Paris, we made a big difference. I'm like, everyone in France can get to Paris within three hours. Everybody. Whereas Americans who are dependent on their job, which is dependent on their healthcare, we are all far away from DC. A lot of us are.
22:12And for us to get there, have a hotel, miss work, possibly lose our job, then lose our healthcare. You know, if you have children, like I'm saying, they're telling you, have children, have children, have children, we're way less likely to protest because we're like, well, I have to be at home for my children and I can't lose my job because of my health care. And, you know, it's very, we don't have the same ability to fight back the way other countries do that have universal health care. Somebody said recently watching the World Cup, they were like, I read that every single country in the World Cup has universal health care except America.
22:43And they were like, that can't be right. And then they looked it up and they were like, oh my God, that's right. We're the only country that doesn't have it. And if our healthcare is tied to our jobs, to our marriages, to whatever, it traps us. So to talk about being a land of freedom, when we're literally trapped just by that one thing alone, it means we can't go and do these things the Albanians are doing, but we should. Because what the Albanians are doing is exactly what they did in the French Revolution, like mess up the train tracks, make sure you can't get to things. You know, somebody said recently, like, we should be doing way more of that, like, subversive fighting back where if I work in the State Department and I'm going to build a concentration camp and I'm supposed to order 500 doors, you know, for cells and I put five instead of 500.
23:25So when they show up, they're like, this isn't enough doors. You're like, oh, I'm so sorry. Like that's the kind of, you know, that's the kind of thing we need to be doing now to slow the whole thing down until we can get to a place where we can literally stop it and then hold everyone accountable. Like we cannot pussyfoot around. How much faith do you have in the Democratic Party to do that? Should we get power back? The Democratic Party proper right now, as it is with the leadership it has? Yeah. Limited faith. Yeah. But I do think that they need to be put in power so that we can turn all of our anger that we've had towards MAGA towards them if they don't do what we ask them.
24:05I agree. So do I think that they're going to come in here and say, you know what? Let's put it behind us and reach across the aisle for the good of the country. We have to be like, None of us want that. We want public trials. The Democrats doing that incubated this. We did that after, uh, when, and I love Obama, but when he came in, the banks got let off the hook. Rumsfeld, Cheney, the illegal Iraq war let off the hook. Um, then Biden gets in Merrick Garland lets off Donald Trump, Jenny Thomas, because here's the deal. When it came to January 6th, They just got the rubes. These are the broken people that got there.
24:42They got a round trip bus ticket and a hotel. The rich people that paid for this, no accountability for January 6th. And I think that the Democratic Party has to come to a reckoning with their part in incubating this fascism. The Democratic Party absolutely has to come to a realization that you either fight back or you lose. And that's what we keep doing, losing. I often make the analogy that it's a lot like a cage fight. You know, if I think I'm a boxer and I'm in there and I'm giving you your jabs and I'm getting my points and I'm doing my thing and you keep kicking me in the head and the ref doesn't call it, I'm going to lose.
25:21And I can't be like, those aren't the rules. I don't understand. You know what I mean? you have to learn to kick back or you have to learn that you're never going to win again. And the Democrats keep thinking, I'm just going to keep playing by the original rules and it's going to be fine. And we'll go back to normal. We're never going back to normal. And I need everyone to understand we're never going back to normal. We must create a new normal. And that starts on the ashes of what did this to our country. Look at the White House alone. Look at what it looks like, right? It's a metaphor for what this country is doing.
25:48What we cannot see is happening to our healthcare, happening to our education, happening to our foreign policy. The White House itself, Washington itself, what the reflecting pool looks like, what happened with the reflecting pool. I can't get over that reflecting pool because people are like, why don't you talk about the reflecting pool? I'm like, because it's a metaphor, right? It's a metaphor for what it's supposed to look like. You hired the wrong person who couldn't do the job. You paid him too much money so you could launder it. You did it poorly. Then you tried to fix it poorly. Now it's worse.
26:16And you're arresting people who are pointing that out. It's just Trump in a nightmare in a nutshell. And I really feel like if you think of that, that's what's happening to the CDC. That's what's happening to the NIH. That's what's happening to everything we cannot see. Just picture the reflecting pool. I want to leave you with one final video. There was a focus group of female Trump supporters, and I have some unfortunate news about what they say. Who? Okay. All right. Listen, put your hand up. If you would have sex with Donald Trump.
26:49If I was married to Donald Trump, yes. And I'd love to be. So we've diagnosed the final thoughts here. We diagnosed, you know, the problem with these broken people that have been able to fail forward. We've diagnosed the Democrats that have not met the moment and fought for the people and instead fought for corporations. But I also think we have a cultural problem in America. You have a lot of people like these ladies, capitalists with no capital, who race to the polls to vote for Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and apparently now, rather alarmingly, want to have sex with Donald Trump, which is just fascinating to me that one could wish.
27:31We talk about some kinky shit. But the larger cultural rot that MAGA has ushered in haunts me a lot. The electorate, the sickness within the electorate. Yeah, I agree with you. Because I think that there are, the majority of Americans do not want this. I think the majority of the Americans did not actually vote for this. I think the majority of the Americans want to have civility and kindness and looking out for their neighbor. And this kind of behavior, this sort of like you keep thinking it can't get lower and it gets lower bottom feeder type behavior. I think that's what we sort of saw at the UFC.
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28:07You can love UFC if you want to, but it shouldn't have been on the White House lawn. There were people having bought brawls on the White House lawn. It's the degradation of our entire society. I think that's what makes people so upset. And I don't know how to fix that aside from saying we need to put different people in power. We need to hold those people in power accountable to do real change. And we need to show these people that their lives can be better under a different leadership. You've been told your whole life that Democrats are evil monsters. We need to put them in power and show that you get a higher minimum wage, that you get health care, that you have paid universal child care, that you get parental leave like every other country.
28:47We can't just say we're going to fix it for them. We have to put people in power and then actually deliver. And that's why I'm saying we need to put Democrats in power and then hold them accountable to do what will actually change the mindset of the people in this nation. Because right now, I mean, you're down an incredible rabbit hole if you want to have sex with Donnie Diaper, right? I mean, there's just no way half of us don't want to have sex with our own wonderful spouses, right? Like you're not, this is like completely bananas. So yeah, no, I think people have lost their minds, but I think it's a smaller group than we think.
29:14They're just so much more vocal. Like if you're choosing to go on Jubilee and talk about how you're a woman and you don't think you should have women's rights, that's a different kind of person, right? We need to highlight the people that don't feel like that. And we need to highlight the people that actually want to make change. And that's why like living in the city right now, watching what my mom Donnie's doing, it's like, here's a Democrat who comes in and he's like, I'm going to do these things. And then he delivers. And he says, I'm going to make things better. And then he delivers. He said, I'm going to balance this budget.
29:38And then he delivers. If you can show people that what you said is true, is true, people will start to believe you. And I think that's an important part of politics. You can't just be like, well, we can't do anything. This is how it works. No, it's not how it works. if you care about the people and not your own power. Yeah, and the great thing about Momdani is he's just incorruptible. And we need to have politicians that are incorruptible. I mean, can you imagine if we had a president come in and be like, listen, the Epstein files are all real. So many people in our government were involved. We knew everything about it.
30:09It's disgusting and sickening and we're gonna hold everyone accountable. But America is the bad guy here and we really need to understand that. And we need to move forward. People are like, well, that is horrendous, but let's do it, right? Right. This constant hiding of it, this constant like, well, it'll be bad for the country and people will think badly of us. It's like, yeah, but people already think badly of us. So why not be incorruptible? Why not come in and do the right thing? And I think that's in many ways why I'm so ready for the matriarchy. Right. Because it's not about women in charge.
30:37It's about who you center in society. Right. If you center the children, if you center the people who are having, you know, the hardest time, everyone else will do fine. If our kids have clean water and great education and food every day and a roof over their heads, so do the rest of us, right? If you take care of the most vulnerable, that's the way it should be. And I think it's going to be women that come in and go, you're being held accountable and you're being held accountable because I can promise you, if you put a matriarchal idea, not necessarily women, but a matriarchal idea in charge, you're not going to have a rape island, right?
31:07We're not going to, like, it's just not going to happen, right? But people have lost their minds and we need to pull them back from the brink by showing them what we can do, not telling them what we can do. Yeah. I think integrity can trickle down. I do. Interruption can trickle down. And you can, I live, I've lived in New York now for eight months and there is an appreciation for the city right now and for what Zoran is doing. And it's very clear when you see Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL and these other fascist bad actors try to beat him down, what their intentions are. And his, he is governing and showing everybody can do and he's just a good person you know i remember when obama was president he inspired other people to be better people and i think that integrity can trickle down listener go follow uh lee on politics girl but she's also going to be maga slang on cnn this week what nights are you going to be on i'm on tuesday night i'm on friday night and i'm on saturday morning my we my listeners love it give them hell tell abby hello i love her she's the absolute best and thank you so much for joining me.
32:11Thank you for having me. What a pleasure. Yes.
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