In short
Allegations that Donald Trump sexually assaulted a beauty queen and that Jeffrey Epstein also targeted her; discussion of Epstein records withheld by DOJ; then tangential debate about a potential NYC mayoral bid by Dave Portnoy and Fox News commentary on “Supergirl,” plus mention of Marjorie Taylor Greene’s reality show.
Guests/backgrounds
No formal guest list; the hosts co-discuss. “Katie Fang” is cited as a litigator/newscaster who filed a court motion.
Key claims
Beauty queen Kuhl alleges Trump groped her at the Plaza Hotel after luring her to a pageant; she says Trump threatened her to keep quiet. She also alleges Epstein introduced himself as Trump’s “best friend” and preyed on her. Hosts claim DOJ withheld ~3 million Epstein-record items despite a judge order.
Notable examples
Plaza Hotel suite incident; comparison to E. Jean Carroll’s dressing-room allegations; mention of a 13-year-old victim who met the FBI four times; references to Howard Lutnick testimony and “blackmail videos.”
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAllegations of Assault by Trump
0:05 to 1:12
Details of Kuhl's allegations against Trump regarding sexual assault.
“Trump allegedly threatened beauty queen after groping her.”
Context of Trump's Behavior
1:12 to 2:40
Discussion on Trump's history of disrespecting women and parallels to other allegations.
“She says he then told her to keep quiet, otherwise bad things can happen, a remark she took as a threat.”
Katie Fang's Legal Battle
2:40 to 4:38
Katie Fang's motion against Trump's Justice Department for Epstein records.
“Not to mention that he is just grossly disrespectful of women.”
Implications of the Lawsuit
4:38 to 5:48
Examination of the implications of the lawsuit and expected releases of evidence.
“This just goes to show how fucking amazing women are.”
Discussion on Trump's Character
5:48 to 7:31
Analysis of Trump's character based on allegations and public behavior.
“And so we will keep our listeners posted as soon as we learn any more about that.”
Speculation on Future Political Candidates
7:31 to 9:50
Discussion about potential political candidates and their implications.
“And speaking of so fucking gross, we have a new candidate that wants to throw his hat in the ring for New York City mayor.”
Critique of Media Figures
9:50 to 12:54
Critique of Jesse Waters and discussions on media portrayals of sexuality.
“And he is in part responsible for the rise in sexism and misogyny based all across the Barstool sports families.”
Upcoming Reality Shows and Conclusions
12:54 to 14:00
Discussion about Marjorie Taylor Greene's reality show and final thoughts.
“I said, well, fuck, I guess I'm watching Marjorie Taylor Greene's new show.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04Stories continue to come out about Donald Trump and his involvement in sex trafficking with Jeffrey Epstein. The Daily Beast is reporting this. Trump allegedly threatened beauty queen after groping her. Just let's read a couple excerpts and then I just want to remind everybody what he said about the Miss Universe pageant. So here are the excerpts. Kuhl first came forward in October of 2024, alleging that Trump, then 47, while she was a 23-year-old banking executive and part-time model, lured her to his Donald J. Trump America dream pageant in New York. She says an aide then asked her to join the property developer for a private meeting before he allegedly groped her in a suite at the Plaza Hotel.
0:55Okay, then she says Trump jumped on her, kissed her, and tried to lift her dress. He was grabbing and touching my body everywhere he could, she claims. Adding, it was violent, it was quick, it was intense. I was screaming for help and nobody came. It was bad. She says he then told her to keep quiet, otherwise bad things can happen, a remark she took as a threat. Kuhl also alleges Epstein made moves on her that day, introducing himself as Don's best friend and telling her she was supposed to be his prey, as she told Swiss outlet NZZ. first the sexual assault by Donald Trump and then Jeffrey Epstein wouldn't let go of me.
1:44It was like a horror show. And a couple of things run through my mind as I read this. Number one, Donald Trump himself, when talking about owning the Miss Universe pageant, as a grown adult said he would go into the dressing room at these pageants and look at the women. And they were in all different states of nudity because he owned the pageant and he could do that. And then the Epstein part, the modeling part, Epstein preyed on girls with the Victoria's Secret. Donald Trump had a modeling agency. And just a reminder, these allegations, if you were following E. Jean Carroll's trial, the way he attacked her in that dressing room, it sounds very similar to this story.
2:32And it does not surprise me at all that the president of the United States has done these type things because he's told us. He has told us who he is. He grabs him by the pussy. 12 is his cutoff for a girl. He said all these things. Not to mention that he is just grossly disrespectful of women. He hates women. It is obvious from the way he behaves. the threat he made to her, I would say that was a threat to look at what he put E. Jean Carroll through. And every time I read these new headlines about Donald Trump, somebody on the internet will say, oh, well, we're getting ready to bomb Iran or the peace talks are going to zoom back up because he is the king of distraction and he has been able to distract people from his hideous behavior.
3:22But the Epstein files will not go away. We actually have a friend of ours, Katie Fang, who just got a huge pump. Do you know about this? Can you speak to it? OK, so Katie Fang filed a motion in court against Trump's Justice Department because they have not turned over the complete Epstein records. Reports are that three million pieces of evidence are still being withheld. And the judge sided with Katie Fang. And so now Todd Blanche is in a position where he has to go before the court. Now, mind you, he said, oh, we've released everything. Now he has to go before the same judge that issued the order and tell them why he is not releasing it and making a case.
4:13I'm guessing he will make an in-bulk argument, but he might have to go through piece by piece of the evidence if the court desires. And so it's so important because we see Katie Fang. Obviously, she's a newscaster, but she is a litigator with excellent trial experience. And right now she's a private citizen and she's taking on Trump's Justice Department. And she is winning because despite the fact that Todd Blanchard and the Justice Department don't follow the law, there are still courts in this country that do. And thank goodness for Katie Fang that she has done this because we've seen how impotent everybody around Trump is, including Congress, to get the information that Trump signed the law saying he had to provide this evidence.
5:02Three million. Three million people. This just goes to show how fucking amazing women are. Yeah. E. Jean Carroll is so brave. Every single one of these Epstein victims who has come out and spoken, the beauty queen that we were just talking about, not all, Pam Bondi. There are exceptions. Not all women. But, I mean, these people are brave, and shout out to Katie Fang. Well, and because of this lawsuit, Todd Blanch and the DOJ have essentially admitted that they violated the law in their release or non-release of the Epstein files. So we are expecting to get a lot more of these files, including more information on this 13 year old girl that Trump has allegedly sexually assaulted who met with the FBI four times.
5:49And so we will keep our listeners posted as soon as we learn any more about that. And when I was reading, when you were reading those excerpts and he was telling her, you know, there will be consequences or shut up. It's that 13 year old girl that you were just speaking of that that sounded just alike. Yeah. I mean, he he is a bully. He threatens people. He tries to intimidate people. And I'll just note that during that period of time when they were at the Plaza Hotel, I think that the Trump organization owned the hotel at that time. So we will see if here's the thing. I don't think that Trump will ever release this information because I think it is so bad for him.
6:30But we know based on hundreds of women testifying, Howard Lutnick testifying, there are videos. Jeffrey Epstein, he blackmailed people in compromising situations with underage girls and he used it against him. The FBI has those videos. Bill Gates even said this, that he blackmailed me. Right. To keep the affair from his then wife. So here's the thing. It's going to come out at some point. I do not believe it'll come out under the Trump regime because he has too much to lose. And he's these people surrounding him are too big of a pussy. You know, the law and order party, they don't want law and order.
7:12They don't want anybody coming out and exposing how diabolical Trump is, but in my opinion, we already know. If you're going to say how sexy and make sexually explicit remarks about your daughter, that's all I need to know. That's so fucking gross. And speaking of so fucking gross, we have a new candidate that wants to throw his hat in the ring for New York City mayor. None other than... You might run against Mondani. I would love to run against. If I was going to run, it would be here. Can I win here? I have no idea. I don't know the demographics, whether they get enough votes. There's a lot of people who like me in New York City.
7:57I know that. I've done a lot of good in New York City when I wasn't thinking about politics, whether it's the bar. he sounds just like trump he literally like a younger trump dave portnoy is aside from being one of the most unlikable people on the internet let me just start with this he's a diehard boston sports fans if he were to run for new york city mayor i should be in boston his main demographic would be straight white men i and even with that i don't think they're going to go for a diehard Boston sports fan. The fact that he thinks he could win in an election against Mom Donnie, it's like peak narcissism.
8:41Like this guy, oh my God, I couldn't stand him before. And this has certainly made that even worse. I say fucking do it. Let's say it. Like you were saying, this is peak mediocre white man. He thinks he can beat one of the most, like the rising star of the democratic party mom donnie go for it i also think it shows that trump has shown that these d-list celebrities and mediocre white men can be politicians and i think just like spencer pratt let's trot him out there and let's just see yeah see how likable first of all fat ass get the chain in the open shirt down to your navel off tv that's number one number two This just goes to when somebody aggregates a lot of money and they have a lot of exposure.
9:30They think they're so smart. He thinks that he can run the city of New York. And what he forgets is a lot of running the city of New York is fucking boring. It's thankless. You're talking about trash pickup and repairs. I mean, stuff that is not sexy. This is not a serious person. And he is in part responsible for the rise in sexism and misogyny based all across the Barstool sports families. I mean, I've listened to those shows and there's a lot of sexism and misogyny going on there. So I'm with you, Kylie. Run. Let's see how it goes. Let's see. And then here's, I just, Jesse Waters, I just find him to be such an interesting person.
10:18He wants to be a big man so bad. He wants to be a guy's guy. Like we go and we play pool and we lift weights, but he's really prissy. He's just a prissy guy. So here he, he just talking about the new supergirl on Fox News is, it is the, you know, it is the Biden of 2023. That's what they're talking about is supergirl. So play it, Kylie. The whole bisexual thing, I think Greg agrees. Guys don't get into that. Maybe that's cool when you're 18, but when a girl's bisexual, we don't trust her. We don't trust her, and the ones I've met are super weird. So to say you're bisexual, it's not a turn-on. It's not a turn-on.
11:05Okay, well, I'm just going to say this. I have never known a man that would turn down a threesome. I mean, I just, I have never heard a man say, I am not going to have a threesome with two women because bisexual just doesn't turn around. First of all, Jessie, why do you give a fuck? Nobody is trying to fuck you, Jessie. Nobody. Bisexual. Nobody wants to fuck you, Jessie. Nobody. But I mean, just can you imagine being so obsessed with Supergirl? I think the part of the sentence, like bisexual female that grosses Jessie Waters out is the female part. like i think that's the problem i mean
11:52that's what he doesn't like that's the part bisexual it's the female if it was so kylie if it was bisexual to men if it was super boy you think he'd be all in i the threesome thing you're talking about yeah i think he'd be all in i think just take the female part out I mean, we can laugh at the ridiculousness of it because it is actually hilarious that this is what they're talking about. What he's saying is actually homophobic. Yeah. And like, it's totally, fully endorsed on Fox News. You know, you have Greg Gutfeld. Greg Gutfeld even looked like a little surprised by what he was saying. Yeah.
12:30So I don't know that Supergirl was made for our favorite racist, sexist bigots at Fox News. they don't they don't need to watch and that's what they can't wrap their head around everything should be made for them right like policy movies tv it's all centered on them that's what it is you're right it's not made for him and that's why they're having a meltdown but i'll tell you what is made for them and just we have to wrap up with this because it's so funny guess who's getting their own reality tv show marjorie taylor green my new series life with mtg okay i'm gonna say this as stupid she did have that affair with the tanzic tantric sex person or whatever okay so that might be interesting but like her and the chubby white guy no thanks here's the thing i kind of might watch it just for like how crazy is her world what's going on in her world i kind of might be interested a little bit i won't make it for a whole thing i saw this and just like how I had to take one for the team and watch Melania and watch Candace.
13:35I said, well, fuck, I guess I'm watching Marjorie Taylor Greene's new show. Yeah. I mean, I had, I've sat through several of the most boring, ridiculous podcast, Katie Miller's podcast, taking one for the team. So I prefer, I would rather watch MTG's reality show than ever have to watch another Katie Miller podcast. But I think if nothing else, it'll be a lot of content. Content rich. Very content rich. Good for IHIP. Good for us. All right. Please like, subscribe, rate, review. We will do all the things and we will be back with more news.
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