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Episode Title Pete Hegseth Thrown Under The Bus By Trump and WH Over Illegal Killings
Episode Description In this episode, hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan discuss the controversial actions of Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth regarding alleged war crimes and the political fallout surrounding them. They also delve into the implications of these events on military leadership and the Trump administration.
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Key Points and Discussions
Introduction to Pete Hegseth
- Characterization: Hegseth is depicted as a "showboater" and "grandstander" with no real experience, described disparagingly for his personal life choices, including infidelity.
- Family Values Hypocrisy: The hosts criticize Hegseth for preaching family and Judeo-Christian values while exhibiting contrary behaviors.
Allegations of War Crimes
- Indiscriminate Killings: Claims that Hegseth ordered lethal actions against individuals in the Caribbean, specifically a second strike on a boat without proper evidence that they were drug traffickers.
- Blame Shifting: Hegseth attempts to deflect blame onto Admiral Mitch Bradley, showcasing a lack of accountability within military leadership.
Political Ramifications
- White House Response: The White House is reported to be distancing itself from Hegseth, blaming him for the actions taken against the boat.
- Potential Impeachment: Discussion on whether Congress will take action against Hegseth, with skepticism about Trump's support for him remaining in his position.
Moral and Ethical Implications
- Military Ethics: The hosts express concern over the implications of military personnel being ordered to follow illegal commands, highlighting that former military leaders have publicly stated soldiers should not follow unlawful orders.
- Christian Nationalism: Critique of Hegseth's alignment with Christian nationalism and the ethical contradictions in promoting violence while espousing Christian values.
Broader Context
- Desensitization to Violence: Discussion on the normalization of violence within political discourse among certain factions, drawing disturbing parallels to historical events, such as the dehumanization seen in Nazi Germany.
- Public Sentiment: Despite the alarming situation, the hosts note that Trump's approval ratings are low, indicating that the majority of Americans may not align with these extreme views.
Final Thoughts
- Call to Action: The hosts emphasize the importance of fighting for due process, democracy, and human rights, against the backdrop of rising authoritarianism and moral depravity in political rhetoric.
- Cultural Commentary: They urge listeners to recognize the multicultural identity of America and to resist the efforts of white nationalists to reshape its narrative.
Promotion and Support
- Product Placement: Hosts promote products, including a beauty line, suggesting listeners use a specific code for discounts.
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Conclusion The episode provides a critical lens on the actions and character of Pete Hegseth, highlighting the intersections of politics, ethics, and accountability within the current U.S. military and political landscape. The hosts call for a collective effort to uphold democratic values and combat the normalization of violence and moral hypocrisy in political discourse.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is a showboater and a grandstander with zero experience that thinks he's playing army. And this is a guy who I think he's had something like seven kids, he's married, and then he had an affair on somebody and then knocked her up and so on and so on. And he wants to preach to everybody about family values and Judeo-Christian values and nauseating shit with his preacher talking about women losing the right to vote. This is how incompetent and how little of a shit Trump gives about the military or national security that he puts this guy, who by all accounts, everybody says is an untreated alcoholic, in charge of the United States military and its massive budget and its millions of employees.
0:52All right. So they killed, they're indiscriminately killing people in the Caribbean and it's getting leaked that they're doing this. And basically, they fired on a boat with no evidence that these people were drug traffickers. They don't care if they're drug traffickers or not. There were two survivors. Pete Hegseth ordered after that, quote, kill them all, which is against the law, rules, etc. And so now the White House, because this is going to get really dicey, it has bipartisan person, investigative desires. And so the White House is blaming Hegseth. And The Hill is reporting the White House confirms Hegseth authorized second strike on the drug boat.
1:40And then Hegseth, Kylie put up this next tweet, is blaming an admiral. And he says, let's make one thing crystal clear. Admiral Mitch Bradley is an American hero, a true professional and has my 100 % support. I stand by him on the combat decisions he has made. On the September 2nd mission and all other since, America is fortunate to have such men protecting us. When this at Department of War says we have the back of our warriors, we mean it. So basically what he just did there is he threw his own admiral under the bus completely, but also said he had his back because he knows it's going to be bracelets in a jail cell for Hegseth over this.
2:29So he's already throwing a career military person under the bus when that person was following Hegseth's orders. I think Hegseth's days at DOD are numbered. What do you think, Pumps? I don't think they're numbered unless the Senate and Congress go after him to impeach it, because Trump loves having him in that position. He'll do whatever the fuck he wants. He wants to militarize cities, swing for the fences. He does what Donald Trump says. But now we understand all the backlash we got last week from the right because the Democratic leadership that was former military said, you do not have to follow illegal orders.
3:14And it was meltdown central because they're giving illegal orders and everybody knows it. The least surprising thing about this whole thing is Donald Trump throws everybody else under the bus when ultimately he's the commander in chief. He's the one that's supposed to make the decision and oversee it, but he's never going to take accountability ever, ever, ever. And Pete Hextheth, I've been saying this from jump, Trump can pardon him. It's the military underneath him, the servicemen that are going to get fucked by this criminal staff and he can't pardon everybody. And they're the ones that's going to hold the back for all this criminal bullshit.
3:55Okay. And then here's Caroline Levitt basically lying to the press. This is a huge problem for the administration because you have Republicans that have vowed to investigate the shit out of this. My prediction is he's already putting blame at Hexeth and it'll be easy for him to replace him and get somebody new. And Caroline Levitt is already setting that up and she's embarrassing herself in the White House press poll. Play the clip. I'm from Gabe's question. You said that the follow-up strike was lawful. What law is it that allows no survivors? The strike conducted on September 2nd was conducted in self-defense to protect Americans in vital United States interests.
4:41The strike was conducted in international waters and in accordance with the law of armed conflict. Okay. It's so unbelievable that she says that this was self-defense when the president of the United States, Kanks, is pardoning drug dealers. He's pardoning sex offenders. He's pardoning January 6th. This guy is a crime president. This whole thing, the whole Venezuela shit is a ruse. This is a wag the dog, and they want to go into Venezuela and get the oil, like Republicans always want to do. They want to go rape and pillage other countries for their national resources, because this is a gift to his big oil donors.
5:27So they are indiscriminately and illegally murdering fishermen, and they haven't produced one ounce of evidence. And there have been 32 killings, I believe. They have not produced one ounce of evidence that these people were drug traffickers. And the reason that Pete Hexeth illegally ordered that second hit on those survivors is because the survivors, if they were taken into custody, would be revealed are civilian fishermen. Right. They couldn't leave them alive because they would tear the whole thing down. on. I've heard that they're going to call this admiral that Hegseth threw under the bus into Congress.
6:11I think it'll be interesting because remember Hegseth like a month ago said nobody in the military can testify before Congress or talk to Congress unless it's cleared by him, which is not okay. That's not how it works. So I think we're going to start seeing more trickles because now these military members who are being asked to do illegal things know they have allies. And so I think this whole thing is about to blow the fuck up. Well, there was a former admiral that quit before it got to this. And it's important to understand that it was around the same time that he is removing the press from the Pentagon press poll, they all knew that this had happened.
6:57And so he's removing one of the pillars of a democratic truth serum, which is the media. And they're preeminently removed from the Pentagon and replaced. I just heard right now, Laura Loomer has a desk at the Pentagon. And so it's nuts. And Pete Hegseth, he thinks he's playing army, you guys. After this was revealed, he tweets this. and it's Franklin targets narco terrorists. And he thinks this is funny. He thinks that killing people is super funny. And at the same time, I want to remind you, this is a guy who talks incessantly about his Christian faith and had his pastor go on a 60 minutes interview and go on and on about Christian nationalism and go on and on about women losing the right to vote.
7:49So he, If any other secretary of defense did this, particularly Lloyd Austin, the African-American that served under Biden, who by all accounts, everybody said was kind of the star of the Biden administration. If he would have posted something like this, this cartoon, it's just the way these white dipshit Christian nationalist racists in the Trump administration get away with this level of unprofessionalism, immaturity, depravity, war crimes, racism beneath the dignity of the office. They're so far beneath the dignity of every single office that they hold, it doesn't even get discussed because now it's just assumed.
8:34And here is Hegseth three to four weeks after he ordered the hit, Kill Them All. Play the clip. We fight to win. We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy. We also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement. Just common sense, maximum lethality, and authority for warfighters. That's all I ever wanted as a platoon leader. And it's all my E6 squad leaders ever wanted. Back to that E6 rule. We let our leaders fight their formations and then we have their back.
9:26It's very simple, yet incredibly powerful. That's just, you guys, that was after these strikes. That was after they knew what they did. And he is basically talking about everything that the military code had was to prevent killing defenseless survivors where there isn't a threat. And he wants to change it, maximum lethality. And it's important when we talk about these guys, the hypocrisy, that they go on and on and on about Jesus and their Christianity and the country being a Christian nation, while at the same time, he's sitting there talking about killing innocent people. No woke rules of engagement, just maximum lethality.
10:21And that moral duplicity in which Christian nationalism lives, now with an assist from Fox News reporting they are going to be integrating a lot of pro-Christian headlines into all of their opinion shows. This type of Christianity is a walking, talking, breathing advertisement as to why nobody wants to be a Christian. why this religion is in decline, because people that have brains and people that care about other human beings see that and think there's nothing enviable or marketable about the evil words that just came out of that man's mouth. And he does it in the name of his religion. And that's just, it's so abhorrent to me.
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12:40Please support our show and tell them that we sent you. Well, and you look at the Christians are the ones that are cheering for alligator alcatraz. You've got all these political pendants that are super Jesus-y and they're saying, I want to see them hurt. I want to see him killed. It's unbelievable how we've desensitized ourselves to murder. I mean, it's murder, full stop. And I also think it's important that when he says it's common sense, he doesn't have a lick of sense. So I don't think he can do anything in this regard, but they like it. They like to watch the videos with people, immigrants, shackled and chained.
13:24They put these strikes on their social media because it feeds this thirst for cruelty that this movement has. And it goes along with this Christianity because they believe they're better. They're entitled to do more. And just on the final thing, if these people in these boats were drug dealers, why don't you go arrest them? Why don't you take a boat and enter the boat and get the drugs? but they didn't do that because they're about killing people so they can get the oil. They don't give a shit if they're fishermen or drug dealers. If they were drug dealers, Donald Trump would be all for it. We see what he's doing with the former president of Honduras.
14:05And then lastly, it's important that we keep chronicling how much worse the MAGA movement and Donald Trump is making people. And here's just a prime example, whether it's somebody in your family and your immediate family or a neighbor or a longtime friend or Marco Rubio or Megyn Kelly. Once you start capitulating to this moral depravity with each human rights violation and each cruel thing that this administration does, with each anti-democratic movement, these people get progressively worse. Listen to Megyn Kelly yesterday. I really do kind of not only want to see them killed in the water, whether they're on the boat or in the water, but I'd really like to see them suffer.
14:52I would like Trump and Hexeth to make it last a long time so that they lose a limb and bleed out a little. Like, I'm really having a difficult time ginning up sympathy for these guys who, 10 seconds earlier, almost got taken out by the initial bomb, but because they managed to get ejected, you know, a little too soon, had to be taken out in the water. I realize legally it may make a difference, but truly, Mark, this is a tough case to really gin up the sympathies of the American people. I mean, this is just wild. Go ahead, Pumps. Here's the thing. there's no evidence that these people were doing anything wrong.
15:30And I unfortunately have personal experience with people that believe like Megyn Kelly, and it destroys me, the lack of empathy. And it's the same people that are, we're going to stand on our Bible. We do what Jesus says we do. And then they go and they say shit like this. And this is not Megyn Kelly in a vacuum. Mm-mm. It's, I have family members that are all in on this. And it's terrifying because when you dehumanize people, you lose all connection to the world. And you look what happened in Nazi Germany. They started dehumanizing the Jews. And that's where we are. And people are like, oh, that's hyperbolic.
16:09No, it's not. We're killing people with no evidence. And she's drooling about the potential of seeing them suffer more. It's not enough that we illegally kill people without due process in the mind of Megyn Kelly and so many other Christian voters, you guys. And I'm not talking about you Christian white people. I'm talking about white Christian nationalists, white evangelicals, the mega churchgoers who have the pastors that fly the private jets and all of that. They feast on this human suffering and cruelty. And it is a real cancer. But as depressing as all of this stuff is, it's really important to remind you all his approval rating is in the low 30s.
16:54So what we're seeing right now is about three out of every 10 Americans is like Megyn Kelly. Seven out of 10 Americans are like all of us here on this platform together. And we have to keep fighting for due process, democracy, human life, because like Pump said, This is how it starts. We're dehumanizing people in this country, immigrants, fishermen, LGBTQ plus people. They have an intention to keep going and going because their ultimate vision is when they talk about I'm a heritage American, they're talking about white nationalist culture. and that's not what America is. America is a multicultural society and it will always be a multicultural society and we have to keep fighting for it and remember that we are in the majority.
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