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Podcast Notes: IHIP News - Episode: Red States are Turning On Trump; His Plans Backfire As Dems Plan to Takeover the Senate!
Episode Overview In this episode of "IHIP News," hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan welcome guest N'Kiyla Jasmine Thomas, who is running for the U.S. Senate seat in Oklahoma against incumbent Senator Mark Wayne Mullin. The discussion touches on political representation, recent controversies in higher education, and the impact of Trumpism on local governance.
Key Themes and Discussions
Guest Introduction
N'Kiyla Jasmine Thomas
- Background: N'Kiyla describes her diverse heritage (Black, White, Native American) as a reflection of Oklahoma's population.
- Significance of Candidacy:
- Aims to be the first woman and person of color to hold the Senate seat since statehood.
- Advocates for better representation of women and minorities in Oklahoma politics.
Critique of Mark Wayne Mullin
- Characterization: Mullin is referred to as a "mediocre white man" (MWM) known for his aggressive behavior and support of Trump.
- Political Stances:
- Mullin's defense of Trump, claiming he is not racist, is met with strong disagreement from N'Kiyla.
- His lack of support for health care initiatives and position on issues like SNAP and Medicaid.
Education System Controversy
- Incident at University of Oklahoma:
- A student used a biblical interpretation to respond to an essay instead of the required scientific approach.
- Turning Point USA's involvement in attacking a trans professor, Mel, is highlighted.
- N'Kiyla’s Thoughts:
- Critiques the university's handling of the situation.
- Accuses the event of being a setup to provoke outrage and distract from larger issues.
Christian Nationalism and Governance
- Discussion on Separation of Church and State:
- N'Kiyla emphasizes the need to maintain secular governance despite pressures from Christian nationalism in Oklahoma.
- Critiques Oklahoma's governor Kevin Stitt for failing to address homelessness while supporting religious-based initiatives.
Shifts in Political Sentiment
- Changing Dynamics:
- N'Kiyla notes an increase in constituents, especially women, advocating for political change and representation.
- Discusses how personal experiences (e.g., raising a child with disabilities) influence voter perspectives and alignments.
Closing Remarks
- Call to Action: N'Kiyla encourages listeners to support her grassroots campaign, emphasizing that she does not take PAC funding.
- Social Media Engagement:
- N'Kiyla's campaign can be supported through her website and social media platforms.
Key Takeaways
- The conversation illustrates a growing frustration with the current political landscape in Oklahoma, particularly concerning representation and accountability.
- N'Kiyla's candidacy symbolizes hope for more inclusive politics in a traditionally conservative state.
- The episode touches on broader themes of religious influence in politics and the changing views of constituents, especially women, on critical issues.
Support and Engagement
- Listeners are invited to follow and support N'Kiyla Jasmine Thomas on her platforms:
- Social Media: @JasmineForOK
- Website: jasmineforok.com
- Donation Link: Available via the campaign website.
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This episode emphasizes the intersection of personal narratives and political activism, showcasing how emerging leaders like N'Kiyla Jasmine Thomas are challenging the status quo in red states.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05Today on I Hope, we have a special guest. We have Jasmine Thomas, who is from Oklahoma, and she is running for U. Senate against Senator Booster Box, Mark Wayne Mullen. And we are so hopeful that your candidacy will take off. And so tell us why you're running in Oklahoma. Why are you brave enough as a young female to go against such a patriarchal nut job in Mark Wayne Mullen? So I have such a diverse background that I feel like I represent just about everyone that's in Oklahoma. We have not had the representation in Oklahoma where that comes from being a woman, being a person of color or just being a just overall Oklahoman.
0:55With my diverse background, because I'm black, white, Native American, I'm Chickasaw. I'm also a woman. I would be the first woman. But also the first person of color to ever hold this seat since statehood has even been enacted. And with that being said, the bravery comes from just, I don't know, just showing up and just saying, hey, we we need this representation. We need this diversity. We need to be shown in a better light than what Mr. And I call him mediocre white man, MWM, because Mark Wayne Mullen. It definitely tracks. I mean, he's tried to fist fight people on the floor of the Senate.
1:39Come on, grow up, act like a real person. We don't have to. We all know that you have to stand on a booster box. We all know that you don't feel good about yourself, but you don't have to show it in such a spectacular fashion fashion on the floor of the Senate. It's it's absolutely now he's running around saying Donald Trump isn't a racist, despite every single indicator to the contrary, because he is a white male is an Indian and he thinks Trump's not a racist. I'm like, dipshit, you're not getting it. You're part of the problem. And I hope that Oklahoma will support you and diversity. This university thing where this girl responds to an essay with her interpretation of the Bible doesn't cite any science.
2:26She does the assignment completely wrong. Then Turning Point USA, they go after the trans professor. the University of Oklahoma fumbles it to the nth degree. I've graduated both undergrad and law school from the University of Oklahoma. I am completely devastated by this because institutions of higher learning, especially secular ones, should not fall prey to this. It is not freedom of expression. It's answering correctly and the requirements of the assignment. So how do you speak to that? So I think that it was a reach that she even said that it was religious persecution, first and foremost, because there's nothing there that screams religious persecution.
3:10And she not only if this was a religious persecution, then we could also flip that narrative and say that this was a religious persecution for this professor because this professor is trans and this, and the professor's name is Mel. So I want to address them as their name. And Mel was attacked on so many levels for this. And I feel like it was a setup in so many ways because her mother come to find out, I found this out is her mother is actually an attorney herself that practices in, was it Arkansas? And I think Missouri, Missouri, Missouri, I apologize for the misinformation. But yes, she practices in Missouri and she was actually one of the attorneys that went and got one of the January Sixers out of jail at the time.
4:00So with that being said, I felt like this was a setup for a perfect expose, I would say. And that's lack of better words, but it was very tasteless. It was tactless. And it was one of the worst ways of publicity that someone could have ever tried to do. And it took a livelihood away from someone who this, this is their livelihood. It took it away and it's, it's very devastating. And I just really feel like this was a grab and then turning point and then her turning to turning point, right? Like it, it screams that they were trying to get some type of reaction out of the masses because they know that they're losing right now.
4:42They know that they're losing ground when it comes to their congressional Senate, especially coming into the 2026 midterms. People aren't buying what they're selling anymore. So they got to find ways to, I don't know, make a big deal out of nothing. And I'm hoping that the professor actually gets the justice that they deserve. I agree. Yes, because at the end of the day, All of this was a, it was a bad job. And one thing that I had mentioned yesterday when I was speaking to my supporters is that one zero is not going to fail you out of a course. One zero is not going to. She could have gone to the professor and said, help me understand why I didn't do the assignment correctly.
5:31If she was earnestly trying to get a good grade, there were a million avenues she could have taken. And college professors typically will go over it with you, allow you a redo. But I'm with you. It sounds like a setup from day one. University of Oklahoma failed. They failed that professor. They failed every student in their student body. They failed the reputation of the university going forward. And one thing that stuck out to me is, of course, Kevin Stitt, the lame duck who could not come out against Ryan Walters with all the corruption and all of the idiocy going on in the Department of Education under his reign.
6:07Couldn't come out against him, but he comes out in support of this girl. And as an elected official in Oklahoma, where Christian nationalism is so prevalent, how do you maintain a secular government when you have this clamoring for religion and government to be melded together? Making sure that we always maintain the separation of church and state, because that's really all this is. It's really them implementing their religious beliefs into everyday people's lives that's not practicing what they practice. So with that being said, that's one thing that I'm going to uphold within our federal government, because that's what I will ultimately represent, right?
6:47And making sure that we always practice discernment when it comes to what needs to be addressed and what doesn't. Because Stitt just recently, not too long ago, had just came out and said that homelessness wasn't his problem. It was never his problem. that that's the nonprofits. Mind you, the nonprofits are having to basically scoundrel up or scrounge up change, get all these donations in order for them to be able to even operate. And so him saying that was very, let me find the word to use because I'm trying to be, like I said, as tasteful as possible. I'm trying to be because I could say so many just bad words right now, but that's out of touch with reality and what his job is.
7:32So by her going to Stitt and him just being openly honest about this and actually giving his two cents on this, it's like, do you even know what your role in our government, our local government even is? Do you even know what your job is? Because you haven't been doing that. You have not been doing things for the Oklahomans. You've been doing it for a small few and not the diverse community as a whole. So who are you working for? Are you working for us? Are you working for them? Because if you're working for them, they need to start paying you instead of my tax dollars paying you or our tax dollars paying you.
8:13Senator Boosterbox is super pro-Trump. He is out and proud about, he is full transparency. He wants to protect children. He's the party of family values. Yet in the Epstein stuff, he ran so much cover for Trump. He voted yes on the big, beautiful bill. In your constituency, the increased premiums, have you been hearing about that from your constituents on the ACA and the cuts to Medicaid and SNAP? Yes, I have. And they have been very vocal about it. And they're not they're unapologetic with what they're saying. So Oklahoma has one of the lowest turnouts when it comes to the insured. So there's not very many people that are insured.
8:58And if they are, they have been utilizing the ACA and has been keeping their premiums in their health care in line. But we also are 49th in health care as well. And. By him actually voting against his own constituents, that's still the question as to who do you serve, who do you represent, because it's obviously not the constituents that actually voted you in. But they will always the supporters and the constituents across the state will say, well, how am I going to afford my insulin out? Because he had campaigned on lowering medication costs, but then backpedals and says, I'm on whatever Trump is on.
9:40And if he says that we don't need this, then obviously we don't need this. And that's not serving your community. the thing is is that the jokes speak for themselves when it comes to me they do they really do he's an abomination he really is he really is and that's not what and i'm i'm not super religious myself i follow one but it does not matter because i'm not going to project my onto you shouldn't have to you should everybody should be free to do exactly what they want christianity buddhism hinduism non everybody should be free and they're trying to force everybody into this Christian nationalist style.
10:22Are you seeing people that, because Oklahoma is overtly religious, a lot of people believe in Christian nationalism that live there. Are you seeing your constituents come out and say, we need to separate government and church, or has that been kind of left to the side? No. What I've noticed after the Christian nationalism projection is that we're seeing a lot more people come out and say, listen, like whatever our religion is, it's our business, but also we don't want to take away from someone else's. Now, do you have your pro Trump, pro whoever that's still just pro Jesus that doesn't think that Jesus actually flipped tables for the blasphemy that's going on right now?
11:09Yes, you still have those that are coming out, but they're far few in between. And it's more males than you would ever imagine. I'm not seeing the women actually come out and still be in support of this. Because a lot of these women that are still in support of Trump are going to be your typical people who, lack of better words, lack of better words. Submit to their husbands. Yes, yes. But they also aren't housing children, especially with special needs. I have a son that's autistic. So when I'm out here talking about my policies or I'm talking about my life or I'm talking about how I'm wanting to change things on a federal level.
11:59and I mentioned that I have a child with a disability, the women that resonate with that, they're just like, you know what? Maybe, just maybe, I'm not being represented. Maybe if someone had, I don't know, took the time out to actually come talk to me or actually find out or actually had something that was in common with me, then I would be more likely to stay on this side. But because I have somebody who represents a certain aspect of me, I'm having to lean over to this side. But all in all, what I'm trying to say is, is that I'm seeing more of the women because they're resonating with me, because we have such close stories.
12:41They're actually flipping their ideas and their parties because they're just like, I have a child with a disability. And now I'm seeing that there's somebody that actually gives a. That cares. Damn. Yes. OK, there we go. Thank you for saying for me. Yes, yes, yes. Well, and normally I do, but I don't know what the limits are here. So I just try to, you know, there are no limits, but I understand we we need dignity restored to politics. That's I'm not a politician, so I appreciate you trying to restore dignity because you've got a big jump with Trump and all his craziness. Jasmine Thomas, best of luck to you.
13:24Thank you so much. Tell people that don't live in Oklahoma how they can support your candidacy. Yes. So my name is Mikayla Jasmine Thomas, and I am running for the U.S. Senate seat against Mark Wynne Mullen here in Oklahoma. You can go follow me on any of my socials, which would be Jasmine for OK on any social and also Jasmine for OK dot com. But you can also go to my act blue, which is also in my website and on any social platform. And you can click the link in the link tree and please donate what you can because I'm a small grassroots candidate. I don't take any PAC funding, no APAC or corporate.
14:02it. So everything that I do is, and I get is from the community. So I'm sponsored by the community. So that means that I will directly listen to my constituents and not be sold out to any other sources. So please, please, please donate where you can. Please, please, please support the movement because this is a big one. It's a historical one, but also it's doable. It's easy. we can get Oklahoma to, if not turn blue, at least turn purple. Right. Yeah. Oklahoma City is already there. All right. Best of luck. Thank you so much for being with me. Thank you.
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