Stephen Miller Visibly Shaking After Brutal Takedown; He’s Mocked Nationwide

0:00Charlie Goldensohn:All right, welcome to IHIP Weekend. We have our favorite guest, frequent guest, Charlie Goldensohn, also known as Shay Chuck Online. He's a political strategist, content creator, commentator, and he joins me today in studio in New York to do some old-fashioned MAGA bashing because these submissive wives of Trump could put on a master class for the Trad Wives Movement. Mm-hmm. Let's get after them. I love some MAGA bashing. All right, let's start with freak show Stephen Miller. He has a new pitch for Trump's Save America Act. Play the clip. A post on X is going viral right now where a customer is a real thing.

0:40A customer at the Olive Garden. Was was setting a question to Olive Garden management asking if they if they're all you can eat summer pass could be shared with their family members. and the Olive Garden corporate replied. And it said, no, your card has a barcode that relates solely to you and you must present a photo ID with your all-you-can-eat pasta pass in order to access all-you-can-eat pasta. So we've reached the point of society where access to fettuccine at Olive Garden is vastly more secure than deciding who is commander-in-chief with the company.

1:18Charlie Goldensohn:What a titty baby. All right, Charlie, go off. He looks like an Olive Garden breadstick. Which I was not planning on saying, and then I saw him there. And it's like, that's it. That's who he is. Yeah. I mean, just what a fucking joke. Like, I understand the argument he's making. I get it. But just to remind folks again, the argument that he's trying to make is that we need a voter ID or that they should be enacting voter ID in order to get people or when they have to vote. to also remind folks that that is a tactic that has been used historically by conservatives, by fascists, by radicals, because it does impact voter turnout.

2:00Because you have to remember, a lot of Americans do not have IDs. They just don't. You might, I do, but predominantly indigenous Americans, disabled Americans, impoverished Americans, black and brown, Americans do not have ID at the same rate as white Americans. So by them trying to require voter id what they know they're doing is trying to drive down voter turnout among likely democratic voters that's the tactical response the human response is what a fucking loser yeah just a loser over and over and over again what do you think about stephen mill i just think he operates

2:32Charlie Goldensohn:from a position of fear i think he's super soft like he gets triggered so easily he's triggered by this lie that he knows is a lie that the heritage foundation knows is a lie that there is massive voter fraud in the United States of America. And if we go down their logic, let's look at it like this. The one presidential race that Trump was in power and had the ability to impact was 2020. And he says that was voter fraud. Why? Because he lost by 8 million votes. And then 2024, when Joe Biden was in power, he's saying, oh no, that election was on the up and up. Stephen Miller is, I think, like a Nazi.

3:14Charlie Goldensohn:I think he's a modern day Nazi. I think he enjoys recreational cruelty. I think he studies Joseph Goebbels. I've seen these side-by-side videos of him adopting mannerisms. The problem with Stephen Miller being where he is positioned is Donald Trump is intellectually lazy. He doesn't care about what he leaves the American people with. He cares to plunder, do his interior design projects, throw up gold everywhere, and then he's going to tap out. So he defers a lot of this stuff to Stephen Miller, who by Trump's own admission said, you really wouldn't want to hear what he really thinks if he says it out loud.

3:54Charlie Goldensohn:Because that's how vile Stephen Miller, and I'm not going to let Katie Miller off the hook, Katie Miller is as well. I don't know if you saw recently, she's having a stage five meltdown over Grey's Anatomy. I didn't see that. Yeah, she's upset because they have a lesbian character, a gay character, and multiple characters of different ethnicities. She did an entire podcast episode on this. And this is on the foothills of her doing all of these Instagram videos, holding her newborn baby, going, I feel so much joy and laughter. And this is the best thing ever. And then she gets triggered by Grey's fucking anatomy.

4:28Charlie Goldensohn:These people get triggered by fictional things. Yeah, I mean, a few things. You mentioned Joseph Kerbos. for folks listening that was uh hitler's lead propagandist uh during the holocaust or world war ii um i tend to think of the and this maybe this metaphor is somebody who could poke holes in i tend to think of the trump administration as kind of having like two levels that they're working on in parallel at the top is like trump and it's the ridiculousness it's the stuff that sometimes we even laugh at where you're like yes this is scary but it's also so stupid but to me that almost feels like a distraction to what's going on below it, which is the Stephen Miller administration, which is regardless of how stupid and ignorant and ridiculous and lazy a lot of the kind of Trump actions are.

5:14In parallel, there is like really real fascistic policies being enacted by people who know what they're doing. And that is a big difference. Also, we've talked about this many times between this Trump term and his previous term as president, where the previous one, they did a really poor job of staffing kind of like government bureaucrats who had actual bureaucratic capabilities of knowing how to get things done. And what they've done in this administration this time around is they learned from that. And now they have people who work under Stephen Miller who are professional government bureaucrats who actually can get these things done.

5:47And it's scary because as we, again, laugh at the ridiculousness, these policies are being enacted. They are being used against leftists, against people of color, against queer people. And again, Stephen Miller, just as a reminder for folks, has a drastic history of white nationalism that's on the record that goes all the way back to when he was in high school in Santa Monica, when he stood up and gave speeches about why he shouldn't be required to pick up his own trash because there were Hispanic janitors who were hired to do that for him. When he was on the school bus in high school, going off about why we should be torturing people in the Middle East, we shouldn't be killing them because killing them means that they don't remember the torture.

6:24If we torture them, that means they have to survive with those memories. He was at Duke where he led a white nationalist paper. If people know the name Richard Spencer, the self-identified neo-Nazi, you might remember him getting punched in the face on live television a few years back. For being a neo-Nazi, Stephen Miller ran that publication with Richard Spencer. So this idea that he's not actually a white nationalist, that he's putting on face, is not true. He worked for Michelle Bachman, an extremely racist Christian nationalist in Congress. He worked for Jeff Sessions, one of the most racist senators we've ever had.

6:56And that's all, of course, before he even joined the Trump regime. So this guy has a history of white nationalism. He used to recommend books that were studied by the Third Reich for Breitbart. He would pitch Breitbart for them to cover these books, right? And so, no, when we make this comparison again, like Jen did to Goebbels, to the Nazi propagandists, that is a very real comparison and it's a fair comparison. I think people can't overlook that. Yeah.

7:24Charlie Goldensohn:And so what's happening, because you and I are sitting here saying this very clearly, and we have a right to say it. It's our First Amendment right to say that we see comparisons between Stephen Miller and an Olive Garden breadstick. And we also see comparisons between Stephen Miller and Nazis, specifically chief propagandist Joseph Goebbels. And so they are big. They say they claim their free speech absolutist, but they're not. These people are scared of books, drag queens, comedians, Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, lesbians, I can go on and on and on, white liberal women, white liberal men. And so what they're trying to do now is brand people like you and me and literally hundreds of millions of people left wing terrorists.

8:14Charlie Goldensohn:And Marco Rubio has turned out to be one of the most submissive wives Donald Trump has. I mean, Melania Trump is far more rebellious than Marco Rubio is. And here is Marco Rubio. He had a left-wing terrorism event. And Stephen Miller is at this event. And Stephen Miller, here he is making a fool of himself yet again. Play the clip. violent antifa demonstrations you see any photograph of those who were assembled to be blunt not one of the people that is demonstrating looks like a normal person not one looks normal pause they're all that motherfucker is saying that some people don't look like normal people when he looks like that okay go on formed in some way in their appearance in their dress, in their mannerism.

9:10Why is that? Why? You look at two photographs and you see a normal American street, you see an Antifa protest. Why do the people that are violently demonstrating, why is there not one normal looking person among them? Every one of them, through the course of their life and their decisions, has scarred their body and their appearance in many different ways to the point in which their outer appearance becomes a manifestation. All right.

9:36Charlie Goldensohn:To quote George W. Bush, that's some weird shit. You know? Yeah. I wish there was a camera facing the press corps that was listening to him. So I assume their faces. I mean, I just don't think people are buying this anymore. I hope, I guess that's the optimistic view of mine is like, again, it goes back to the ridiculous comedy component and then the serious horrifying component. And it's both things happening at once. On one hand, it's so absurdist. you can't take it seriously in terms of the arguments he's making and the propaganda he's using to push this policy uh on the other hand he's pushing the policy and this policy is happening this is this was called i think it's npsm 7 um which you know folks should google it it is something that the administration pushed like over six months ago i think not a lot of folks have been talking about rocana to his credit is one of the few congressmen really mentioned but it's basically a tool uh that is allowing the federal government to go after um everyone but really leftists the point is to go after leftists communists socialists etc uh without kind of the due process that we would expect from the federal government um and of course yes he looks like an olive garden breadstick yes he looks like a thumb yeah um yes he looks like a freak show So, and yeah, you have to both laugh and also be horrified and take what he's saying super seriously at the same time, because he is talking like, he's talking about you.

10:57He's talking about independent media. He's talking about leftist creators and activists. He's talking about pro-Palestinian activists. He's talking about everybody who is utilizing their free speech. And what's happening, and I've said this for a while now, is like, the Democrats actually are the party of free speech. We actually are the party of the First Amendment. And like, we need to remind people of that. We need to clip these things. We need to explain these policies to people so they understand that while they position themselves as the party of freedom, there's absolutely nothing free about anything that they stand for anymore.

11:29Not a zip.

11:30Charlie Goldensohn:Completely agree. And here's Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio convenes 65 delegations from around the world to tackle the issue of left wing terrorism. This is at the same event. Play the clip. This is a distinctive and unique evil. It has always been driven by a hatred, above all else, a hatred for civilization itself. It is a revolt of the worst against the best, a revolt of the weak and the cowardly against the strong and the good. It is perpetrated by those who cannot build, who cannot create, who cannot achieve great things and take their revenge upon the world for their own inadequacy by seeking to destroy those who can.

12:18Okay.

12:18Charlie Goldensohn:What strikes me about this is they're saying cannot build, cannot create, blah, blah, blah. And these are the people that are so triggered by the LGBTQ plus community. One of the most creative artistic communities among us is the LGBTQ plus community. And this propaganda where they're lying, and this is this lie that white supremacists lie, that white people are the job creators. White people gift everything else to everybody else. We are the builders. And I think Marco Rubio is going to be a particularly interesting case study for two reasons. Number one, because he has been an absolute obedient little chihuahua to Donald Trump.

13:03Charlie Goldensohn:I mean, absolutely obedient. He has done whatever that man wants. And the second part that I think is going to be interesting to see how history covers him is that Marco Rubio received 99 and 0 votes when he was at his confirmation hearing. Nobody voted against him. And to me, that's a full-blown indictment on the Democrats because it's symptomatic. of how this happened, how this fascism incubated, that even, and I love Bernie Sanders, but that even a Bernie Sanders didn't say, the fact that Marco Rubio witnessed January 6th and knows all of the crimes that this man has committed, knows that he's an adjudicated rapist and that Marco Rubio agreed to go work for him should in and of itself be disqualifying.

13:48Charlie Goldensohn:I have interviewed interviewed Senator Murphy. And I asked him if he regretted his vote for Marco Rubio. And he said, yes, he did. So I'm going to put that on the record too. But that to me is like, it shows, they show up to every fight with machine guns and we show up with plastic spoons. Yeah. I mean, they also, this, again, I think about the difference between the first term and this term for Trump, which is one of their strategies, which to their credit worked, It's why Rubio got 99 votes is that they're choosing – they chose a spectrum of administration officials, some of whom are fucking freakish fascists.

14:28And then some of whom, when compared to those freakish fascists, seem – oh, that's okay. And that was Marco Rubio's role. Marco Rubio was placed in there because he didn't seem as insane as some of the other people that they put forward to staff administration. And so that to me is the problem with, again, a lot of the Democratic leadership, a lot of the Democratic Party is like we fall into these traps of the Republicans, which are smart traps, and of the Trump administration, which is like they continue to move the goalposts on everything. And when they continue driving the goalposts right, I guess, they drag the Democratic Party with them.

15:05And where Rubio used to be a freak fascist, now he seems normal in comparison to all the others. But now you have this. Now you have him, as you said, something Chihuahua. I can't remember. And then the other thing I'll say, a submissive Chihuahua. The other thing, too, I'll say is you talked about creativity. He doesn't mention creativity in that clip. But actually, if you listen to the rest of that speech, he does talk about creativity. He talks about how communists or communism hates creativity and free thinking. And again, A, it's a straw man argument, right? The second piece, though, is fascism hates creativity.

15:38Fascism hates free thinking. Fascism hates art. That is why they are targeting arts education and arts funding. That's why they don't want independent media because creativity breeds authenticity. It breeds honest dialogue and conversation and truth. And that is the most dangerous thing to Marco Rubio. That is the most dangerous thing to Donald Trump. Just remember that. But if you see creativity, if you see art, know that that is the antithesis to fascism. And we should all be supporting that because that is not what they want. So stop letting these motherfuckers just lie to us over and over and over.

16:12Charlie Goldensohn:I completely agree. All right. J.D. Vance is getting ripped, which is really fun to meet up on J.D. Vance. I mean, he's just the most unlikable person. I haven't seen him. Oh, God, no. No, he's not getting ripped in that way. He's getting ridiculed, Charlie. so conservative podcaster Tim Dillon blast J.D. Vance over his appearance on Joe Rogan and his comments about the Epstein files let's take a listen about to be one of the stupidest people in the world to fall for this shit at this point this is you are peddling the dumbest most like by the way I hate to use this word but cringe it's literally cringe you watch this and you go i feel so disgusted by the fact that they think people are still gonna believe this shit well it's the deep state it's what do you think i i don't think saying i told you so is like the most helpful political cool but it's just it's so infuriating seeing this shit where it's like on one hand good grace like i'm very happy that dylan and like these other podcast people bros whatever are like coming around on the other hand it's like no shit like you it's you're describing yourself like you are one of the people who got us here and i get it like you were tricked and used etc but many of us were they tricked i don't know i mean i don't know really were they tricked Or are they economic Darwinists who ride the survival of the dollar and their income?

17:58Charlie Goldensohn:And they saw that Trump was this form of masculinity was kind of popular, especially against the black woman, especially against Sleepy Joe. And they wrote it because it's hard for me to buy that Andrew Schultz and Joe Rogan and this guy. Of course, they knew they all saw January 6th. They all saw what we saw. And so I think right now what they're doing is they're jumping off the Trump train early because, number one, you know, he's going to biology is undefeated. Is this early? No, for them before the term is up. No, it's not early, but before the term is up, because they want to. This is why Tucker's jumped off.

18:34Charlie Goldensohn:This is why Marjorie Taylor Greene's jumped off. They want to position themselves. They see the ship is sinking. And so they're like, oh, let's jump up right now. Whereas Laura Loomer, Bannon, they're going to ride that motherfucker all the way down to the bottom of the sea. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I, yeah, and so much of it too is like, maybe, I don't know if there's any reasoning to this or if it's just like my own bias. But like, I need these people to acknowledge their role in this, right? Like, again, like the same thing with Theo Vaughn, Rogan, Schultz, all the people that you mentioned.

19:09I appreciate that they are moving in the right direction. I appreciate that they're jumping ship good, like too late, but fine. but I need you like people need you to acknowledge the role you played in this whether you were used whether you're being lazy whether you were an opportunist like whatever the reasoning is it's just very hard I think for any of us or anybody to take you seriously when you were like unable to hold up a mirror to yourself and acknowledge your responsibility in this um and you know I think a lot about about like we've talked about this before of in this room we're gonna be okay for the most part, I think, minus in case we get arrested by Marco Rubio or something.

19:49But what Tim Dillon, Theo Vaughn, Andrew Schultz, Joe Rogan, regardless of if they're jumping ship, what they need to remember and what folks need to remember is because of the decisions they made to support or amplify Trump and his fucking regime, human bodies have suffered. People have died children are going parentless um legal immigrants are being killed in the street and like while it's not individually their responsibility they absolutely played a role in that and it's not just like politics sometimes can be fun and games like politics though is also very tangible it's very real there are downstream impacts on human bodies and human suffering and like i need these people to acknowledge that they played a role in that i need them to to say fuck the decisions I made absolutely helped get us here and I apologize to my audience or whatever but until they do that it's very hard for me to take this kind of like flip-flopping seriously

20:47Charlie Goldensohn:I completely agree with you there needs to be an atonement there needs to be a purge of you know I facilitated and incubated this moment that contributed to this I mean Trump's support by new media earned media that he was able to go on all of these podcast shows and hardly get any push back and just explain the weave and all of this stuff they really enabled a lot of this stuff and i agree with you like now you're like oh he said no new wars and i thought he meant it it's like you really believed him like you really think this person was a truth teller and not a liar like you really believed that it's just such a either an own that they're stupid which is possible but But I don't think they are.

21:32Charlie Goldensohn:I think they're clever. And I think that they are diabolical with their cleverness. And that's why I think they've jumped off the Trump train. But speaking of clever without being diabolical, our mayor, Zoran Mamdani, was asked in a New York Times interview, what will happen if Netanyahu comes to New York City? Play the clip. What will happen if he comes in September? I believe that Prime Minister Netanyahu belongs in the Hague. He's a war criminal who has been charged by the International Criminal Court. And what you will find is that is an opinion that is held by many purely because of what his actions have wrought over these last many years.

22:14Charlie Goldensohn:I've also said that I will follow the laws that we have here in New York City because I believe that there is an importance in following the law as a leader who presides over our city and that's something that I plan to do.

22:31people can disagree morally or ideologically, I suppose, with what he's saying, maybe, but he's speaking objective truth. Like Benjamin Netanyahu is a convicted criminal. And to me, what Zoran says there is brilliant and amazing, but it's also just like, it's showing the purity of his politics, which is like, he said that exact same thing on the trail. This isn't new. He's not changing his tone. He's not changing his message. And a reminder to folks who are scared about what he's saying there, this is why he won. That same mindset, that same idea, that same vision of the world, that same vision of equity and fairness and following the law and holding war criminals accountable and genociders accountable, like, that is why people like him.

23:17That is in part why people voted for him. So there's going to be a bunch of neoliberals and Bill Maher and whoever and conservatives who are going to say this is fucking crazy. He doesn't have the power to do this. But a reminder, like New York voters voted for him almost exactly because it's not that everybody was voting on the issue of Israel. But this idea that he's exceptionally clear in his worldview, he's exceptionally clear in his politics, he's exceptionally clear with his plans, and he's not deviating from that. And so I applaud him for sticking to it. I do.

23:44Charlie Goldensohn:I do, too. I think that this is – we need more of that in the Democratic Party. We need for the Democrats to fight and say, no, Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal. He deserves to be in The Hague. He should be in The Hague. And I intend to follow the law to get him there. And this is not the only reason why this is such a big issue is because the Israel issue is used to manipulate all of us in so many different ways all of the time within the Democratic Party, within, you know, from right to left, et cetera. I don't think there's a bigger argument for how corrupt Benjamin Netanyahu is. Let's say that we didn't have all of the evidence and the multiple, I think it's up to 30 different groups that have said, yes, it was a genocide.

24:31Charlie Goldensohn:Take all of that and set it aside. If Benjamin Netanyahu oversees this beautiful, bright light of a democracy in the Middle East, if what they say is true, why did they prefer Donald Trump to win over Kamala Harris? a man who tried to overturn a free and fair election who refused to go participate in the peaceful transfer of power instead packed his toys and left like a and they supported donald trump because donald trump doesn't give a how many people they kill he doesn't care he simply doesn't care about the loss of human life and that's telling because biden allowed Netanyahu to do everything he did up until Trump.

25:16Charlie Goldensohn:And that to me says, oh, that wasn't far enough. They wanted Iran. They want to balkanize Iran. They want to go further. They want to enact the greater Israel project. So they need the most stupid, selfish, narcissistic, dipshit Trojan horse imaginable. And that's why they picked on Trump because it's a lie that they're a democracy. It is. And I'll say one other thing quickly to bring it back to Zoran is like the issue of the genocide in Gaza on behalf of the Israeli government, on behalf of Netanyahu and the support of the U.S. government. It is a kitchen table issue. And this is why I think Zoran is actually the perfect person to be talking about it like this, because Americans are clear.

26:02Democrats and Republicans are clear. people aren't stupid we see the u.s government sending billions of dollars overseas to help support this genocide while also then being told that we don't have the money to pay for universal health care or universal pre-k or child care or school meals or lunches whatever and like it is then it is a kitchen table issue like what what the u.s government is saying what trump is saying what israel is saying is this is worth american resources us doing this killing these mothers and children and families overseas, but your needs to feed your children, to maybe be able to go to Disneyland once every three years, if you get cancer, that you're not going to go bankrupt for the rest of your life.