In short
White House staff are reportedly “tired of Trump” and avoiding him; the episode also attacks Trump allies and MAGA media, arguing their messaging is dishonest and unpopular. It further targets Melania Trump’s public speeches, Natalie Harp’s loyalty, and Caroline Levitt’s claims about Trump “respecting women,” plus Katie Miller’s alleged homophobia.
Guests (reported in transcript)
Maggie Haberman (NYT reporter) and referenced figures Caroline Levitt (Hannity guest), Katie Miller (podcast host), Natalie Harp (Trump aide/loyalist), Melania Trump, and Stephen Miller (Melania’s and Katie Miller’s husband is Stephen Miller per speaker).
Key claims
West Wing staffing is minimal; Trump’s chaos is driving internal revolt and poll movement toward Republicans turning on him; Trump’s TV channel flopped in ratings; Harp and other MAGA supporters are “cultists” who believe propaganda; Melania’s immigration story is framed as suspicious; Levitt’s “respect for women” line is contradicted by Trump’s history; Miller is portrayed as triggered by Pride and queer visibility.
Notable examples
foam-board sightings at Bedminster; Natalie Harp “love notes”; Melania’s UN speech; “grab them by the pussy” references; New York Magazine “most eligible singles” list; Trump’s 24/7 channel ratings disaster.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWhite House Workers' Discontent with Trump
1:05 to 3:33
Exploring the discontent among White House employees regarding Trump.
“Well, you're not alone because Maggie Haberman is reporting now the White House employees are also sick of Trump, but of course they don't do a damn thing about it.”
Natalie Harp and MAGA Cultists
3:33 to 4:30
Discussion on Natalie Harp's loyalty to Trump and the MAGA base.
“You're the smartest person in the world when they know they're lying and they know everybody knows they're lying.”
Melania Trump: A Case Study
4:30 to 7:35
Analyzing Melania Trump's position and perceptions in relation to Trump.
“And so she is not even unique in her bunny boiler waste.”
Trump's Respect for Women: A Fallacy?
7:35 to 10:02
Critique of claims about Trump's respect for women based on his actions.
“There are also sticky circumstances wherein Elon Musk became a United States citizen.”
Katie Miller and Cultural Triggering
10:02 to 14:00
Discussion about Katie Miller's reactions and cultural commentary on LGBTQ+ issues.
“We're full when it comes to he has respect for women.”
Exploring the Dynamics of Pride and Shame
14:00 to 20:49
The hosts discuss the psychological and cultural implications of certain individuals projecting their insecurities onto the LGBTQ+ community.
“The thing about the Millers is they are not Bible thumpers, which makes it even more diabolical because there is a sect of like, look at Benjamin Netanyahu.”
Transcript
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1:04Are you sick of Donald Trump? Well, you're not alone because Maggie Haberman is reporting now the White House employees are also sick of Trump, but of course they don't do a damn thing about it. Play the clip. Things I mentioned in the last segment, how few people are in that West Wing now. It's really very striking. It is, reminds me a little bit, a lot over this summer where, you know, he would be at Bedminster and And it was like Natalie Harp and Walt Nauta and Bill Pulte showing up at the golf course over and over again with foam boards, according to multiple people. You know, that that is partly reflective of the fact that I think people are really worn out.
1:46Josh, I heard you take a breath. You know, I'm I'm tired of Trump, but I'm not in the West Wing. I'm so I can't imagine being with that man 24 seven. He's probably just ripping them right and left around. It's like, hey, let's get out of here. But, you know, I think the country in a general sense is getting tired of this. It's just chaos every single day. And people generally don't have a huge threshold for just enduring this amount of chaos day in and day out. The people, everybody wants to relax and just simply be happy and live your life. And this is catching up with him. The polls that we talked about yesterday are reflecting that people are tired of Trump, his own party.
2:29They're starting to turn on him. And that's where we're headed. And it's perfect timing for us because we have the midterms coming up. And so I feel the same way she feels, except I never have to see Donald Trump. And I'm still tired of him. Pops. I just think when I read this or saw this, I thought, how fucked up and sick is Natalie Harp? That she's all in, writing love notes, can't get enough, wants everything to be great between it. I mean, Walt Nata, I get because they were co-conspirators in the classified documents case. He was also indicted with him. She doesn't have any indictments pending.
3:11What is it about her that keeps her in? And then I contrast that reporting to these cabinet meetings. And I just think it is so fucked up to know what's going on, to know what a disaster it is and get in there and say, you're in the best physical health of anyone I've ever seen. You're the smartest person in the world when they know they're lying and they know everybody knows they're lying. it's just a bunch of sick fucks in my opinion and i just want to remind everybody natalie harp is not that unique she is every mega cultist she just she just is by his side the people who watch fox news every day the triple trumpers they are natalie harp if you follow the good liars on instagram they go and interview people all the time at trump rallies and ask these women if they find donald trump attractive if they would date donald trump and they all enthusiastically say yes.
4:09So as batshit crazy as Natalie Harp, the bunny boiler is, she is every MAGA. She is a representative of every MAGA cultist. They are exactly like her. They think he's smart. They think he's an incredible patriot. They think he's genius level. They think he's an incredible businessman. And they think about him all the time. And so she is not even unique in her bunny boiler waste. It's not even unique. She is just the closest in the cult to the cult leader. And then of course we have Melania who is an interesting case study because she doesn't really want to be in the cult, but she has, I think this delusional thing where she's like creating her own brand in parallel with Donald Trump.
4:57It's really weird to watch. Here she goes of the UN. Play the clip. Together, we can open doors, move markets, shape policy, and most importantly, we can change lives for the better. Each of us has been entrusted with the responsibility of leadership. Together, none of us believe the leadership will help us get through this. Nobody believe that you fuck Donald. Nobody believe Bunny Boiler fuck Donald. What are we doing here? Nobody even believes that shit. Together we're opening doors and moving markets. I mean, just put a sock in it and shame on every outlet that provides cover to the rubes that believe this shit.
5:56I'm so sick. Trump's going to do this. All of these people are going to do all this crazy stuff. Teens share everything. That may include the bacteria that can cause meningococcal disease known as meningitis. Even if your teen's been vaccinated in the past, they could still be missing meningitis vaccinations. Ask your teen's doctor or visit meningitis.com today. Sponsored by GSK. People who provide an assist to sane wash this and let these people that really need a government to work for them believe this shit are really more evil than almost these people are right now. You could put the Russian flag in that photograph and you might think you're at the Kremlin.
6:33No shit. Listening to a speech. That's my only observation. This is the first lady of the United States of America. If you're a Republican or a Trumper, and we did that, if we had a first lady that sounded like that, they would take issue with it. They would make fun of us. You see all the things on Twitter or X now where, you know, this is my American white wife and, you know, how they try to, they try to shame basically the Muslims. And if you have anyone looks different or if you're brown, and then he has his wife show up and speak like that. I mean, it's, it's, and we don't care. Like, I don't care where she's from.
7:18She's a first lady, but I know what they would be saying if we propped someone up and gave that speech? Can you imagine? I know what they would be doing. Apparently, there are some sticky circumstances wherein Melania became a U.S. citizen. She received an Einstein visa. There are also sticky circumstances wherein Elon Musk became a United States citizen. Both of them would be under investigation for some sort of immigration fraud. The Republicans wouldn't blink. They would have Benghazi-style hearings about it, one after another, after another, after another. And again, the Democrats dither. They dither, they dither, they dither.
8:00She is not an Einstein. There is no Einstein visa here. This is, according to her best friend, Amanda Nguro, the Einstein was in the bed. She went from Jeffrey Epstein to Donald Trump. And if the roles were reversed here, if Michelle Obama was passed on and Michelle Obama's best friend said that Michelle Obama was a hooker and that Michelle Obama got an Einstein visa, it would be all gas, no brakes. I think Jesse Waters and Sean Hannity would have an absolute heart attack. And that brings me to Caroline Levitt, Christian extraordinaire, goes on Hannity's podcast to talk about Trump's. Let me check my notes here.
8:44Respect for women. Play the clip. I mean, in the cabinet. So, you know, he's in fact, sometimes I think he might listen to women a little bit more than men. And I think that he just has such respect. You know, there's been moments, right, where. The fact that she could say that with a straight face. Okay, number one, I thought you were going to go spend more time with your kids, Caroline. Get out of the public eye. We can't stand you. Number two, Donald Trump. I mean, remember with Georgia Maloney in Italy? Like, he picks on women. He picks on women all the time. He wants to grab them by the pussy.
9:27He wants to go in and look at their nakedness. caitlin collins he's got her and her and his crawl the fact that she would say this and it would go unchallenged which of course hannah d is not going to challenge it but i if what about quiet piggy caroline what about that weren't you on air force one when he was saying quiet piggy like caroline levitt shut the fuck up she goes on to say in this interview yeah trump tells people what he thinks and calls people's policy crap and all that. That's believable. I believe that's how he does diplomacy. But shovel shit somewhere else. We're full when it comes to he has respect for women.
10:09He hates women. It's obvious every single day. It's a real disservice to other women to hear her talk about that. I mean, if this man stands for anything, it's in opposition to women and how he treats women and his history backs that up. Don't take our word for it. It's his conduct. I completely agree. And then Katie Miller needs to be treated for being easily triggered. I would like, I invite psychologists in the medical industry at large to research the MAGA and how easily triggered they are. We have books, we have drag queens and Katie Miller's instance, we have Grey's Anatomy, which she binge watched and made a punch list to read on her podcast, Fireside Chats with Nazis, about how triggered she was from a fictional television show.
11:00Well, now she is triggered again. Pop this up. New York Magazine released its list of the most eligible singles in New York City. There are 43 people on the list. Here's the list, you guys. 11 gay men, 2 bi-pan men, 6 gay women, 2 transgenders. New York is already one of the gayest big cities in the country. This list is still two to three times gayer than the city it claims to represent. Imagine that you are so terrified that you've had to move your family to a military base. You are terrified at Grey's Anatomy. You are terrified. Remember when she went on Abby Phillips, she said she was terrified of Jennifer Welch.
11:55And she's terrified of a lesbian. And she's terrified of a drag queen. Out of all the stuff that's happening right now, that upsets you? Who gives a shit? I think when they do the study of the MAGA, They also need to do the study of why they think they don't have autonomy or agency, why they think when they read something that New York Magazine did this explicitly to evoke maggotiers, which if they did, kudos to you, I'm into it. But I mean, this is just, these people are such snowflakes and titty babies of the highest order. Can you imagine making a list like that, posting it and sending it out into the world and saying, I'm terrified of all of these people and being just that brazenly homophobic?
12:47I was just going to say, obviously, Katie Miller's world is very small. She wants it white. She wants it just straight people. And she's holding on to that so tight. She wants teenage girls to have babies. Contrast to she worked for Elon Musk and they are starving people out. They cut grants. He was able to escape investigations by contributing to Donald Trump. So killing kids in the world's poorest, that doesn't bother her at all. She is happy to go do that. But gay people and the most eligible list doesn't bother her. That's fucked up. And then I just want to add, because I'm still not over it.
13:35When she gave birth to her fourth child, she talked about how full her life was of joy and laughter. This woman does nothing but spew hate, cruelty, and bigotry day after day after day on her podcast on X. This woman, it is impossible for me to believe that there's any joy in her heart because her heart is craven and vile and she is constantly spewing just the cruelest shit so i find her to be one of the grossest of the gross and just think of it like this so she has to spend i i presume a lot of time with her husband steven miller is that right is that right don't they do stuff together they travel they have four kids they live on a military base together and watch grades crazy anatomy in isolation um so just think about this if you have to spend the whole day with that son of a bitch and the thing that triggers you that pisses you off in the course of your day is an article in the new yorker when you're with that guy what does that say about you i'm seriously what does that say about her and then you know part of this i'm going to presume this again but part of her you know this is culture war stuff this is that's what she's doing here um with the gay trans stuff uh but i assume that her fear or phobia for that is is grounded in her religion is it you agree with that does that sound right well she's this is interesting about her she's jewish and typically um jewish people are reliably vote democratic and vote for for inclusivity and vote for social justice.
15:24The thing about the Millers is they are not Bible thumpers, which makes it even more diabolical because there is a sect of like, look at Benjamin Netanyahu. He knows like, okay, we can get Ted Cruz and we can get Lindsey Graham and we can get all of these mega church pastors. And they're so fucking crazy. Their religion is so nuts. They think Jesus is coming back, but they make a shit ton of tax free money, all these mega churchers. So we'll fleece them and we'll get them on the horn with us. So so there's a real disgusting exploitation at the top of like hardcore Zionists that are fans of the Israeli expansion project.
16:08And then they go in and co-opt the most co-opted people in the United States electorate, which are the evangelical Christians who also support MAGA, who are also like the guys who wear, you know, I'd rather be Russian than Democrat than wear those shirts, you know. And so I think that the thing about a lot of these people, the through line, is they're broken. They are emotionally stunted, broken people that would never ascend in a meritocracy. And once they start going down this road, I think she's kind of believing a lot of the propaganda. and is almost in a state of psychosis about it that the gays have some big agenda and you know they're going to unleash it on her kids or some crazy shit where it's like i wouldn't let your kids around all the people yourself or your husband that's just me i mean somebody called dhs yeah she doesn't strike me as being overly intelligent when i hear her speak or when i hear her say something.
17:11I mean, she, you know, she, she's married to Stephen Miller. That's, that's really all you got to say going into this thing. We could have wrapped this segment in 10 seconds by saying this woman's married to Stephen Miller. But I think that's it. She's so upset that she's married to Stephen Miller and she sees queer joy, gay joy, gay pride. And it triggers her because she's not proud of her husband. She feels shame. And she sees these hot lesbians and gay men, queer people and drag queens participate in something called Pride, Pride Month and Pride Parade. And they have autonomy over who they sleep with and they enjoy it and they like it and there's no shame in it.
17:57And every single day she has to fuck Stephen Miller. And so I think as deep as we want to make this, it's really more about she is projecting so much of her choice and the shame that she feels about her husband and his unattractiveness on the inside and on the outside. And she wants to put it on the people who have had an uphill battle, barefoot in the snow, both ways. The gay community who have evolved so much and in such a beautiful way in the fight for equality and the fight of Harvey Milk and the fight after the AIDS epidemic to have a parade that gets bigger and bigger and bigger. and a lot of us joining the chorus against all of these hateful institutions that institutionalize hate and bigotry in them and they feel pride about their hatred.
18:55But that is a bankrupt road to go down when you have pride about your hatred. So then you start hating, you know, what these people do have, which is pride and joy. And so I think that's what it all is. But that's at the core of all of this. That's their only thing they believe in is hating on people because they're so inferior. And then you guys, the ratings for the Trump state-run TV media are in, pop this up. Donald Trump's 24 seven TV channel has immediately flopped in a humiliating ratings disaster for the president reporting by the Daily Beast, of course, because again, this is the bunny boiler segment of the country that watches this.
19:43We have bunny boiler, the bunny boiler electorate. You know how when Bill Clinton ran, they called it the Bubba vote? Yeah. I'm going to start calling it the bunny boiler vote. We have a bunny boiler vote out there in the electorate that's always going to vote bunny boiler. About 30%. Let's circle this back to the first story we did. The people in the West Wing don't even want to see this motherfucker. So you think that people want to sign up on a TV channel and watch his shit in real life? I mean, nobody does. Nobody does. That's not a surprise. But the backstory there is probably how many people he fucked to get millions of dollars for that TV station that has now gone debunked.
20:24And there's a bunch of investors or people out there that are holding the tap for that. That's probably the real story behind this. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's all we have. Please like, subscribe, comment, and we will be back later with more news.
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