In short
A political/entertainment discussion accusing Trump allies and media figures of lying, hypocrisy, and enabling bigotry—starting with claims about Jeffrey Epstein’s hidden-camera evidence, then shifting to LGBTQ+ and Black-rights issues, Confederate monument disputes, and a report that Pete Hegseth hired a January 6 rioter for a classified Pentagon role. It also attacks Barry Weiss over alleged bias at 60 Minutes and calls for a CBS boycott.
Guests
Don Lemon (host) and Kylie (co-host/producer). No other named guests appear.
Key claims
Todd Blanche says no evidence of hidden cameras was found on Epstein’s devices; hosts argue that’s a lie and that cameras were shown in footage. They claim LGBTQ+ and anti-Black racism are rising, cite Gallup trends, and criticize efforts to alter a slavery memorial. They argue Andy Ogles’ “homosexuality has no place” tweet reflects anti-LGBTQ hostility, and they defend consenting-adult liberty. They allege Hegseth hired a convicted January 6 rioter handling classified operations. They portray Barry Weiss as undermining trust in journalism.
Notable examples
Epstein Manhattan apartment/“Epstein Island” footage; Andy Ogles “Nuclear Family Month” post; Ted Cruz responding “consenting adults”; the slavery memorial at George Washington’s Philadelphia residence; the Pentagon hiring report; 60 Minutes/Scott Pelley dispute.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Epstein's Hidden Cameras
1:40 to 3:38
Exploration of claims regarding hidden cameras in Epstein's properties.
“It's Don Lemon, and we are about to dive right into the tea.”
Trump's Reaction and Legal Turmoil
3:38 to 6:15
Analysis of Trump's attorney's actions and implications.
“And now he is doing Donald Trump's dirty work.”
Reflections on Trump's Appearance
6:15 to 8:10
Discussion on Trump's recent public appearance and health.
“Do you think that's actual weight gain or do you think that's swelling from all the medication he's on?”
Controversial Statements by Public Figures
8:10 to 11:10
Debate surrounding statements made by Republican Representative Andy Ogles.
“It was Ellie Mae, Jethro, Grandma Clampett.”
LGBTQ+ Rights and Republican Hypocrisy
11:10 to 14:00
Examination of the Republican stance on LGBTQ+ rights and its implications.
“The comedians say, you know why that happens?”
The Impact of Suppression on Identity
14:00 to 14:35
Explore how hiding one's identity can create cycles of shame.
“And when you're hiding it and you're suppressing it, it comes out, I believe, in weird, strange ways or ways that you think no one will find out about.”
The Decline of Support for LGBTQ+ Issues
14:35 to 16:43
Discuss the troubling trends in LGBTQ+ support and its societal impacts.
“So we have support for, US support for LGBTQ plus issues is remaining down from the peak.”
The Rise of Racism and Homophobia
16:43 to 19:15
Analyze how current political climates are fueling racism and homophobia.
“There is no test for what you do in your bedroom.”
Hypocrisy in Memorials and Representation
19:15 to 23:10
Examine the contradictory attitudes toward memorials and representation.
“black, the African-American one, but they want to erect the other one.”
The Role of Young Activism in Civil Rights
23:10 to 25:35
Highlight the importance of youth in driving social justice movements.
“And it is a reminder that these fights have not concluded yet, that it is an ongoing living fight.”
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Confronting Bigotry in Everyday Life
25:35 to 27:50
Discuss personal experiences that illustrate the impact of bigotry.
“we always defer as a default setting to what would offend the racists.”
The January 6 Rioter Hired by the Pentagon
27:50 to 28:01
Investigate the implications of hiring a January 6 rioter in the military.
“Recent reports reveal that Pete Hegg says Pentagon has hired a convicted, convicted January 6th rioter for a role that handles classified military operations.”
Capitol Break-in: Rehabilitating January 6th Insurrectionists
28:01 to 29:14
Discussion on individuals involved in the Capitol break-in and their attempted rehabilitation
“Are you surprised that he hired those people?”
Examining Homophobia and Cognitive Dissonance
29:15 to 31:36
A discussion on homophobia, cognitive exams, and societal perceptions of masculinity
“I believe in order to be that homophobic, you have, there has to be some sort of mental illness there.”
Barry Weiss and the State of Journalism
31:37 to 39:52
In-depth analysis of Barry Weiss's influence on journalism and her conflict with Scott Pelley
“We hook it up and we don't have to show him porn.”
Call to Action: Boycotting CBS
39:53 to 41:40
Discussion on boycotting CBS due to journalistic integrity issues and political influences
“And they are the number one thing that we should be concerned about is that the news is supposed to hold people in power accountable.”
Call to Action: Boycotting CBS
42:22 to 42:47
Discussion on boycotting CBS due to journalistic integrity issues and political influences
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1:39All right, guess who's back? It's Don Lemon, and we are about to dive right into the tea. Let me tell you something, MAGA. They want the Epstein files to disappear, but not on our watch. Not on our watch. Don, I want to play this clip of Todd Blanche telling none other than podcast extraordinaire sensation Katie Miller that there's no evidence of hidden cameras in Jeffrey Epstein's homes, aka he's lying. Play the clip. And all the videotapes from all of his hidden cameras that he had throughout his homes. There's no evidence that he had hidden cameras throughout his phones, throughout his homes.
2:20I mean, so just let me put a final point on that. Does that mean he didn't have hidden cameras? No, I have no idea whether he did or not. We never collected any evidence. We got all of his devices. We searched all of his devices. There is no evidence of any hidden cameras. I can't get over socks, first of all, but remember the last time we got together, we said less is more. Yes. Yeah. I don't believe him. Well, obviously, we all know there were cameras in his home because we've seen the images of them. So he's lying. But he says, we don't know if there were or were not cameras. It's your job.
2:55You're the DOJ. You're the FBI. It's your fucking job to know. There could have been cameras or hidden cameras. We know that there are cameras there. I mean, who would have a compound like that and not have cameras? I mean, even in my little Dinky house, not Dinky, I have security cameras. I don't have hidden cameras. But yeah, we've seen the footage. Haven't we seen the footage of the cameras? Yes, we have in his Manhattan apartment and on Epstein Island. Zorro Ranch was never searched. But we have to assume that the whole purpose of this, and this has been widely speculated and alleged, was for Jeffrey Epstein to get these powerful men in compromising positions.
3:34So he then had something over them. This is a personal attorney of Donald Trump's who walked into court and got his ass handed to him with 34 guilty counts. And now he is doing Donald Trump's dirty work. And this is the same guy, Don, that went and met with Ghislaine Maxwell privately. No U.S. attorneys with him. Shipped her to a cream puff prison with a dog. And you know what? I guarantee you he told her, hang tight. Don't speak. You're going to get a pardon. You just have to wait until we can politically do it. You think so? I do. Allegedly. Allegedly.
4:14Look, every time I, I have to be honest with you. Okay. Every time I see him, he doesn't, the less bright he seems. Yes. At first when he was an attorney, he kept his mouth shut and he would stand behind Trump. I was like, oh, who's that? Oh, that must be his attorney or whatever. And then the more he opens his mouth, the more he exposes himself. and um i shouldn't be saying that around jeffrey epstein's story but it is his job as you said to know yeah what the evidence is and what it shows and what it doesn't show just say that the evidence doesn't show that now there could be it's like well what do you mean they could be haven't you been there the person who you are the attorney general for is mentioned thousands and thousands and thousands of times in the epstein files one would think that at least you would want to have some transparency or at least in some way to exonerate him.
5:04We've seen the hidden cameras. Donald Trump is not on them. So I don't believe, I think he's lying about that. But this is what Todd Blanch reminds me. Every time I see him, he's like, you know, I love the president and if the president wants me to serve in whatever capacity, I will say, thank you, Mr. President. What do you want me to do? So, you know, I don't know if there are cameras that are just how he sounds like this. You will not be able to unhear it. And when that's how he sounds. Completely. These guys are always trying to out-ass kiss the president who, by the way, I think he was missing for like a week.
5:43And then he rolls out yesterday with his show and tell presentation where he has a false equivalency of the reflecting pool. Comparing it to the Empire interstate building. I mean, it's like apples and oranges and the problem done nobody in that white house, not one motherfucker says you can't do that. This is crazy. It's nuts. And they make the, they make the poster for him and they turn on the cameras and they will his fat ass out there. Do you know, according to his last Walter Reed visit, he had gained 14 pounds. Do you think that's actual weight gain or do you think that's swelling from all the medication he's on?
6:23Well, it's a combination. Steroids. Look, you know he already, they lied about his weight. And his height. Have you ever seen the comparisons of like, what a 200 and whatever pounds, six foot, whatever man looks like. Some athlete. And then you see Donald Trump. You're like, there's no way. It's not true. We talked about how tacky is. I called it the Beverly, what do we call it? The D.C. Hillbillies or the White House Hillbillies is basically what it is. Donald Trump doesn't understand that the name of what that pool or structure is supposed to be, it's in the title, reflecting pool. In order to have a reflecting pool, the bottom has to be black.
7:06It should not look like a swimming pool at some tacky resort that Donald Trump built that probably has gold letters on it. Wet and wild. Or where I'm from in Louisiana, it's called Blue Bayou, right it's like in oklahoma it's called uh whitewater bay i think we i'm serious i think we should turn it into a wave full what do we are that's why stop oh my god you are channeling me so what are we gonna call what would we call it the um trump water bay white reflections
7:41people but guess what we're gonna see if it looks like a swimming pool you're gonna see some MAGA folks coming. They're going to jump in. They're going to be swimming there. They're going to bring their lunch and their kids. They're going to be putting towels on the side and it's going to become the white trash bay. No, what do they call it on the Beverly Hillbillies? The cement pond. It's going to become the cement pond. Yeah. Jethro and Ellie May, Aunt Clampett. What was it? It was Ellie Mae, Jethro, Grandma Clampett. Yeah, Grandma Clampett. Jed. Jed. Jed. Jed Clampett. Okay. Moving along. Representative Andy Ogles is very triggered by gay people.
8:30Okay. So I'm going to put up a post in just a second, but I want to say, tell us you're gay without telling us you're gay now kylie pop up this post representative andy ogles homosexuality has no place in america happy nuclear family month and so riley gaines and all the big alleged heterosexuals are bragging about nuclear family month he has since deleted this and of course he has blamed an aide for doing it he said i was working on the farm and then my phone lit up and some aide like you know young congressional staffer allegedly posted well this reminded me that ted cruz on 9 11 one year liked a a tweet from a porn website that dirty dog he liked some slutty pornography thing and then he came out afterwards and blamed a congressional aide for doing it.
9:31There is so much of this going around. First of all, we'll talk about that. But just real quickly, can we put up the thing again? Look at that hair. Oh, yeah. That tells you everything, okay? That's a lot of product. Yeah. But Donald Trump, I forget, there's so much swimming around in my head that he's tweeted or posted and that he has blamed staffers. He blamed staffers for something. I don't remember if it was the Barack and Michelle Obama 850 or something, but they said it was a snapper. Yeah. Right. That's always the excuse. Right. Here's the thing, and I'll tell you, homosexuality has no place in America.
10:09Happy Nuclear Family Month. First of all, most of the people I know, my gay friends who are married, and most of them are married, they have been in their relationships longer than any straight person that I know. No offense, you're straight. But I'm just saying, and my gay friends are in monogamous relationships. They have kids. They're working hard to try to send them to get the best education. If they can afford private school, they're sending. And we're going home at night and taking care of our business and worrying about work the next day. We're not going on websites with our titties and balloon titties.
10:44Oh, big titty Brian. Big titty Brian. And doing some weird shit because we believe in live and let live. And if it's two consenting adults, I'm not judging. And if somebody is straight or gay, that's who they are. Let people be who they are. So I don't know what he's talking about. And if you look at the marriage statistics, especially among gay men, lasts longer than heterosexual relationships. I think the lesbians even outperform the gay men and the straights. Kylie, can you look that up for us? The men? The lesbians break up? It's not good among lesbians. Oh. No, no, the comedian says. I don't say this.
11:18The comedians say, you know why that happens? why lesbians have such bad marriage statistics, or it's not great, is because it's two women involved and they can't make a decision. I didn't say that. Yes, he is repeating a comedian. I'm repeating a comedian. We love the lesbians. Oh, come on. Okay. So Ted Cruz, of all people, has responded to Ogles' tweet. Let's play the clip. Ogles, a Republican from Tennessee. He says that homosexuality has no place in America, agree or disagree. Well, I think for all of recorded history, homosexuals have been part of humanity. And, you know, I got to say, I'm quite libertarian by nature.
11:59I think the behavior of consenting adults is their business. I like that he's libertarian by nature, except for when somebody calls his wife ugly. Well, knock me over with a feather. I would be saying that Ted Cruz said something right i mean cancun ted maybe he's maybe he's having some fun down in cancun here's the rumor so it's alleged and i and i tiptoe into this very carefully because um ted cruz has two daughters and it is alleged that that one of his daughters is bisexual and this is what happens to a lot of these republicans and a lot of these mega christians you don't give a shit about anything and you browbeat and you ostracize and you hate, hate, hate.
12:44And then somebody you love is a member of the LGBTQ plus community. Exactly. And then you go, oh, wait, I don't want the laws to bully my child. And I don't know if that's true or not, but this is alleged as to why he has had an about face on this, which here's the thing, Don, and you can attest to this. If Lady Graham, if Ted, if Josh Hawley, who struggles to kiss his wife, little Moses Mike Grindr, if any of these people came out of the closet, atoned, spoke about it, no one would accept them as much as the gay community would. Yeah. Yeah. No one would. No one. Because we're very forgiving and we realize like it's tough to come out.
13:30But the thing is, it's tough to come out because the people who you were mentioning, they make it so tough for people to come out. They make you think that it is bad, that it is an abomination before God and all the things, and that you are not deserving of the rights that every other American or heterosexual Americans. It's because of the very things that they believe they've been co-opted or co-coaxed into believing. It's because of those things that it makes it difficult for them to come out. It also makes it, I think it also leads to aberrant behavior because you are constantly hiding things.
14:02And when you're hiding it and you're suppressing it, it comes out, I believe, in weird, strange ways or ways that you think no one will find out about. So, um, and it produces a shame cycle. It does. But speaking of, did you, did you see that picture of Scott Bessent and Tim Scott? No. Oh my God. Let me. Kylie, will you find it? Oh my gosh. You've got to see it because it's, yeah, we'll find it. Wow. Okay. While Kylie's finding that, let me show you a new Gallup poll that is very concerning to me. Pop this up. So we have support for, US support for LGBTQ plus issues is remaining down from the peak.
14:47And as you can see, it starts the graph for those of you that are listening, not watching the graph goes upward. and then it stops around, you know, all of this Trumpism and now it's tilting downwards. And so legislating hate and homophobia has real life consequences. And, you know, you hear all this stuff about this sort of, this sort of bigotry is on the rise and that sort of bigotry is on the rise. To me, the most, the biggest bigotry on the rise right now in the United States that's not reported enough is anti-Black racism because materially they, Republicans, and the Supreme Court are removing black voices from Congress.
15:27Representation. And the second bigotry that is on the rise in the United States is anti-LGBTQ+. And it's really bad in these red states. You're from a red state originally. You left. I'm from a red state originally. I left. It's really, really bad down there. It's really, really bad. And it's obvious that this environment is contributing to that. Again, what Ted Cruz said, two consenting adults, it's their business. And I think that, you know, if you are, especially if you are, let's say you're from a red state and you're a Christian, you're not supposed to judge. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but you're not supposed to judge someone else.
16:04And in that, just that very instance, I think that you should allow people to live and be who they are. And if you want to practice your religion and it tells you that, you know, you shouldn't be gay, okay, then don't be gay, Right. But don't. But also you have to remember, and I think you have to respect that we live in a country that's a constitution and it's a democracy. And it's not, it shouldn't be built on laws. Because when we established this country, it said that there is no state religion and there is no religious test for citizenship. And so in order to be, to have the same rights as everyone else, then it should apply that there is no religious test.
16:42There is no test for sexuality. There is no test for what you do in your bedroom. That's your business. That's what America is about. But it's obvious that this is contributing to that. And all of the racism in this country. Donald Trump and MAGA are responsible for the rise of racism and the rise of anti-black violence that we don't talk about. And we don't talk about anti-LGBTQ violence as well. And the violence that's perpetrated on trans people since they have been targeting trans people since Donald Trump has been in office. There's no question about it. And the Trump administration is attempting to alter the slave memorial, Don.
17:24Oh, boy. Pop this up. So the Trump administration is arguing for power to alter the memorial to enslaved people who lived at George Washington's residence in Philadelphia. This is the second time that Trump has tried to alter the memorial. The National Park Service removed placards and videos, displays commemorating the history of slavery on the site in January. A judge then ordered the exhibit to be restored. So, Don, we have this rise in anti-Black racism, this rise in homophobia, and Jared and Ivanka are basically Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell 2.0. With their island? Is that what you're talking about?
18:06What the fuck? Could you imagine if your daddy was in the middle of a pedophile ring where all the crimes took place on a private island that then you would get on camera and say, I'm building a private island. I discovered a private island and I'm building a compound on it. They don't care. They're out of touch. And they've been, they've had the entitlement and the privilege for so long that they can get away with anything. And in large part because of their racism and bigotry that they don't, Ivanka doesn't care. No. Donald Trump doesn't care. He, the only thing that he cares about is not being prosecuted for that.
18:44Or at least having his name, he believes, sullied by that, but he's done a good enough job of that himself. But can we talk about that exhibit? Yeah, I want to get your take on it. But I was going to say, the hypocrisy. Yep. These are the very same people. You talk about being from a red state. We want to put back the Robert E. Lee Memorial. The Confederate flag should be hanging. We shouldn't be removing Civil War memorials and statues. issues and they, but when it comes to them, they want to take it down. They want to take down the black, the African-American one, but they want to erect the other one.
19:19That tells you everything you need to know. This isn't about meritocracy or equality or equity. It's about white supremacy is what it's about. Bottom line, end of story, full stop, period. Do you think that we have allowed as a nation over the course of the last several decades. We have allowed as a default setting, particularly in the South, these people have a real close connection to the Confederacy. It's part of their heritage. It's a part of their culture. Instead of saying, you, you bigot, you. And here's just something that the NAACP has been talking about, having black athletes boycott like Alabama, roll tide.
20:05I know from Oklahoma, the University of Oklahoma Sooners are like a religion. It's like Jesus and close second as football. I mean, I know LSU. Yeah. LSU. Do you think, I think that would really impact people. I think it would have a huge impact. I do. It pisses me off that they want to participate in enjoying black excellence. They participate in enjoying gay excellence with a lot of the products and shit they use, but then they go and vote for hate and bigotry. And they all stand up and dance to YMCA because Donald Trump is doing this. You're dancing to the biggest gay anthem ever. Now he's saying it.
20:41Yeah. And we're going to take that shit back when he's gone. Yes. We're getting YMCA back. We're going to get the YMCA back. Yeah. They want to enjoy all of it, right? And they are enjoying the fruits every single day. Jen, you know this. Yep. People around this country are enjoying the fruits of slave labor, enslaved black people in this country. Look at even the Fortune 500 companies. A lot of that came from sweat equity from slaves. But yet we have the descendants of slaves have no equity in all of that and none of it and have had very little opportunities in building generational wealth the way white people in this country have had.
21:25And so I agree. These universities make so much money off of their football programs or basketball programs or baseball or whatever it is, especially the SEC. They make so much money off of black excellence. Yep. and yet they want to restrict black rights, voting rights, representation rights, right? But you want to sit there in a stadium on a Saturday night and see all of these black boys running, young men running, you know, get touchdowns and winning for your team and your university making millions of dollars off of them. Yeah. And getting grants from taxpayers. Getting grants from taxpayers.
22:04Yeah. I would say you should, they should start saying no, because they don't have to go to these SEC universities. They don't have to go to these universities where they're trying to restrict voting rights for black people. If you are a number one draft pick for the SEC, you better believe that every other university who's not in the SEC wants your ass there. Here's what I want. What, can I finish? No, go ahead, yeah, I'm sorry. Because I hear people saying, this is a lot to put on, Jen. They say this is a lot to put on young people, a 17-year-old, 18-year-old. Do you know how old John Lewis was when he was getting his head cracked in the front lines of the civil rights movement?
22:35Do you know who those people who are sitting at lunch counters having dogs sicked on them and hoses? These were young people, high school people and college people. So don't tell me because you don't want your kid is going to miss out perhaps on a football program at LSU when they may be going to maybe they can go to, you know, USC or, you know, some university that's not part of the SEC or not part of a state that's restricting rights. That's bullshit. Everybody has to be willing to sacrifice something. And I think for a football program, go to another university. They surely would want you. Sorry.
23:08No, no. I'm on my sofa. No, that was such a poignant point. And it is a reminder that these fights have not concluded yet, that it is an ongoing living fight. And one thing I know from living in a red state, and you do too, is how near and dear these football programs are to people. It's a huge part of the culture. And I think if they want white culture, we give it to them. We let them have a MAGA football team in Alabama, at LSU, at the University of Oklahoma, get all these white boys out there and you go roll tide. You do it, baby, because I am so sick of the hypocrisy and the duplicity. I can't tell you how many women I know in Oklahoma City and we would have the same hairdresser, So this fabulous gay man, sweet, kind-hearted kid, young man now, who has the horrible experience of being gay in the judgmental Bible Belt.
24:07And these women come in, talk about how they're voting for Trump and about their tax breaks. And they never, ever think about that man's feelings. As he's doing that here. And how dehumanizing that movement is to gay people. I think these fucking bitches. I'm so glad you're talking about that. Yeah. Because my sister, remember my sister passed, remember? Yeah, yeah. She was a colorist, the best in town. People would like come, they would change their whole schedules. And if she said, oh, my car broke down, they're like, we'll buy you a new car because, you know, people are about their hair color.
24:36And so people loved Ima, right? My sister's Ima. And she said they would come into her shop and they would start talking about Trump. And she would say, she'd take the thing off. And she goes, do you understand that I'm here? I'm not a supporter of that. I don't want to hear that. And if you're going to talk about it, then you have to leave. And sometimes she would say, I'm not doing your hair anymore. And I loved her for standing up for, she stood up for herself and she said, I don't care if I lose clients because not all money is good money. And we need more people. We need more EMAs in this world who would, you know, stand up for not only her rights, but also the rights of others and give backs.
25:15And my sister had no agency. She wasn't a, you know, some person who had, you know, a podcast or a television show on CNN. She was just a nice professional woman who could do good hair and wanted some respect. And she knew what was right. And so I think we need more of those people. I'm so glad that you said that because I didn't think about it until this moment. No, I think it's important because we always defer as a default setting to what would offend the racists. Like, you know, these people that had the bakery shop who were so upset that they had to bake a gay wedding cake. But let's flip the script.
25:52Let's talk about the black people and the gay people who have these bigots come in and then project their racism, either veiled or thinly veiled or not veiled at all, onto these people. They don't think they're being racist. They have no idea. The thing is, is that they're clueless about it. They're clueless about it, Jen, in the same way that you know, because you're a better woman than me, you actually go on these programs and you debate with them. the the people the pundits and the um what do you call them the brocasters the manosphere all of those people who are out there some trump supporters or whatever at just supporting supporting supporting they are always at a deficit for facts and when you confront them it's like a paper tiger right it's you know they just start to to crumble because they are fact deficit i the new thing that i call them is not it's not just fact deficit i call it um they're on a fact, it's a fact desert.
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26:52You know how they have food deserts in certain areas? It's a fact and a reality desert because they are on an island or they're on a desert where the only information they're getting is from either Trump's Truth Social or Fox News. And they have no idea what is happening around them. They're not in an information ecosystem. They're in a desert of non-information. Well, speaking of a fact desert and racist and white dipshits. Yes, ma 'am. I would be remiss if I didn't mention Secretary of Defense. I refuse to call it Secretary of War out of spite. Pete Hegseth. Like the top of America. Yeah. Pete Hegseth has hired a January 6 rioter to work at the Pentagon.
27:30And mind you, this is a guy who it is on the record has fired people because they are Black, because they are a woman, or because they are Black women. This is a guy who sees it as a problem to be employed by the military while being black. Or stopping their promotions. Exactly. Stopping them from getting promoted. So here's this post, pop this up. Recent reports reveal that Pete Hegg says Pentagon has hired a convicted, convicted January 6th rioter for a role that handles classified military operations. And here the Washington Post has found an image of this person breaking into the Capitol. Dawn, what's your take on that?
28:09Yeah. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. I mean, look, he pardoned all of them. And I'm not surprised. Are you surprised that he hired those people? There are probably many people who already worked there or who he's hired who at least have the same sentiment. Maybe they didn't go into the Capitol. But you can see now that what they're trying to do is have the January 6th folks, they're rehabilitating their reputation, trying to make them into heroes. They're trying to turn losers into winners. They're trying, they're trying to turn traitors into heroes. Problem is they all keep getting arrested.
28:47And they all keep getting arrested like that. And the dumb, stupid homophobic one that's standing on top of the truck of whatever it is, burning a gay pride flag. How do you tell me you're gay without saying you're gay? You stand on top of a truck and you burn a gay pride flag so that you can prove to uh a woman or somebody or your buddies i'm not gay look i'm burning this flag in the meantime you're waking up in the you know in the morning having uh dreams sexual dreams about the pool boy that you're trying to repress i mean it's just it's just ridiculous it's just it's ridiculous why on earth would you be that homophobic why would you be that like i don't understand they say that in order to be racist, like there has to be some mental illness there.
29:32I truly believe that. I believe in order to be that homophobic, you have, there has to be some sort of mental illness there. Because not only this, there is, um, there are, there are, I don't know, there's homosexuality in nature, not just in humans. Penguins. Yes. Yes. And so if you're, if you're too dumb to read a book and understand that, then perhaps you're not deserving of, you know, maybe there should be a test to become like they test immigrants to become Americans. You have to give a test. Maybe you have to teach them all those things before you can say, okay, you're a citizen of the United States.
30:08And then if you don't do those things, I don't know what happens to you, but we can figure out something. And that would lead people at least to have some to be educated somewhat on the issues that they, they find. So, you know, um, that they're so drawn to, to discriminate against people. I have a great idea. Yes. Okay. You know, Besides the cement pond, but go on. You know, Trump keeps talking on and on about how he aces his cognitive exams. And Dr. Oz was like, well, he takes a test all the time because he loves nailing it. And he's always like, I aced it. Nobody's ever gotten this great of a score.
30:40And then he's also talking about, like, he sees a football player and he's like, God, he has great thighs. Yeah, he's so hot. He's so handsome. Yeah, he's on and on. So I have this idea. We demand that Trump do a cognitive exam live on TV. and we get to pick the doctor right so it can't be rigged and we get to pick the animals that he is right second one is i read this article where these psychologists did a really really long study studying homophobia and they hooked the penis up to you know electrodes and they showed them you know man on man woman on woman man on woman etc the men that identified most as being homophobic got the most erections when they watched gay porn.
31:23I think it would be really fun and healing for the country if we hooked Donald Trump's cock up to one of these devices. Now, mind you, the doctor might have a hard time finding it per Stormy Daniels, but that's another podcast entirely. That might need a pro.
31:43Oh, what is it, a catheter? Razors.
31:49Allegedly. We hook it up and we don't have to show him porn. We can show him a picture of like a woman and then we can show him a picture of Zoran and then we can show a picture of a woman and then we can show him a picture of a football player. You know, I just, I just think, but here's the problem. Pumps always points out that she, because of the cankles, she doesn't think the blood can travel from the cankles to the penis.
32:15See, as always, we get off the rails, but y 'all, I know y 'all love it. I know your lemon heads over here. love it. I know my hipsters love it. It's fun to get off their rails. Oh my God. You are out of your mind. I think that, look, it shouldn't surprise you that the people who are the most homophobic are getting boners. They're like, look, man, I'm not gay. That's why they're like that. I'm not gay, but you're getting a boner. I'm not gay though. The biggest thing is when they say homosexuality is a choice and I'm like, then you're choosing to be straight. to be straight okay i want to go on just briefly before we close here to talk about what's happening at 60 minutes and we have this uh demonic lesbian named barry weiss who's carrying the water for the patriarchy somehow she thinks she as a woman as a lesbian is going to be safe with all these white christian nationalists she's fired scott pelly who is a serious investigative journalist and he is like fuck you i'm not they asked he basically said they asked him to have bias and not thoroughly vet stories jack to insert falsities maga into his reports so he said he said i've resisted this all along yeah so they've had this back and forth and now barry's come back out and she has said the following i'm only interested in working in a newsroom that is built on trust and mutual respect So I want to stop there real quick.
33:40This is the same bitch that spiked the story about the United States of America sending people without due process to a concentration camp in El Salvador. There was a gay refugee from Venezuela who they sent down there who was sexually raped and abused on American taxpayer dime. So for her to say she's only interested in working in a newsroom that's built on trust and mutual respect, fuck her for being complicit in covering up for the United States government's acquiescence to putting people with paperwork issues. These are not criminals. When you have immigration issues, those are paperwork files.
34:21These are not criminals. And then she says, we cannot do our work without it. That foundation was broken. And despite our tips to engage with Scott Pelley and to find a way back, unfortunately, we weren't able to do so. And so we had to part ways. We did not want that to happen, but that's the path that he chose. Don.
34:43The irony is that Barry Weiss owned a news entity called the Free Press. when the only thing, she's not doing anything for the First Amendment or the free press right now. As a matter of fact, as Scott Pelley put it, she is murdering 60 Minutes and the news at 60 Minutes. And I believe she is helping to murder the First Amendment and murder the freedom of the press. She's contributing to the murder. She's killing it, at least there, and helping because CBS is, look, CBS is a big influence. The people who own CBS are a big influence. They own media companies. And that's going to trigger them. They may own CNN soon.
35:26Yep. So I think that's going to be problematic. And it's already problematic for the information system, for people to be in an information desert. A lot of people are going to be in information deserts if CNN, if they own CNN, and now that they own CBS. Scott Pelley went back and for instance, for everything that she alleged, he went through it and said, this is a lie. This is a lie. This is a lie. This is what happened. When we went into that meeting, it was, you were aggressive. You did not want to work anything out. You mentioned firing within the first 15 seconds. there was nothing conciliatory about any of it, and you lied.
36:13And for him to do something like that, to have the balls or the guts to do that, to go up against a big company like that, especially someone who has fired you illegally, contractually, he may not be able to make a statement, but he's doing it. I think it takes guts and courage in a world of Barry Weiss's, via Scott Pelley, and in a world where people are murdering the First Amendment. We need more people to stand up to the Barry Weiss's of the world. She's being used. She's being used by the Ellisons. She's being used by the Trump administration. She's being used by MAGA. And I believe the moment that a Democrat gets back in office, whether that's two and a half years or however long it is, the moment that a Democrat gets back in office, these people are going to be trying to suck up to the Democrats.
37:03Of course. What is that going to do for your journalistic integrity, for your credibility that you went along with this and now you're going to have to go the other way? Because surely the messaging will change when there's a Democrat. And I certainly hope that it does. I do, too. And I just want to remind both of our listeners, the Lemonheads, if you don't listen to Don, go subscribe everywhere. The Don Lemon Show. And, of course, you're probably already subscribed here. We're on each other's show every week. So you should watch me one week on your show. Next week I'm going to be on his. every other Friday, we're going back and forth so that we have some tea going into the weekend.
37:35This is important though, also going into the election. I do that with you. I also do it with DL Hughley. Our shows are fire here. But yeah, this morning I did it on my show with Adam Mockler. I think it's important that we do that. We collaborate. But I want to remind everybody that we feel powerless and we feel helpless. And Donald Trump is friends with all these billionaires and And Barry Weiss is here lying, and this probably works with our MAGA base. This doesn't work with you all. It doesn't work with your listeners. We can all boycott CBS. They fired Stephen Colbert because Stephen Colbert hurt Donald Trump's feelings.
38:11We can all boycott CBS because at the end of the day, the only thing that these people care about is money. And Barry Weiss, she may be being used, but she is a willing participant in fascism. She is not just a fascist collaborator. Barry Weiss is a fascist. So from the morning show all the way around the clock, CBS must be boycotted. The only thing I'll tell you about boycotting, and in some way I agree with you, but as a journalist, I think about all the people who are still there because there are people there who are fighting the good fight, and it's not their fault that they're doing it, that Barry Weiss and those guys are doing it.
38:46So it's tough for them because they're out of work, but they're going to be out of work anyways because they're trying to kill it. I think they're trying to kill it and sell it for parts. I don't know what's going on. If you're a journalist that wants to be an objective and you care about the facts, your job is not secure with fascists. No, it's not. It's just not. This is different than boycotting something. These people are fascists and we just cannot play patty cake. I've been saying something very similar because my friend said there are lots of people who are still there, hundreds of producers and writers and all this, and they want to make sure that 60 Minutes is the best in CBS.
39:18And I said, I understand that, but it's a fait accompli. Those people don't care. If they cared, they wouldn't be doing what they're doing. And clearly they're doing it to appease one person, right, which is Donald Trump, and then the folks below Donald Trump who are the Ellisons. Clearly they're doing it that for ideological reasons. This isn't to make news better. This isn't to make it more factual. This isn't for us to gain a commonality about what's real, about reality. This is not what's good for America or good for democracy. What they're doing is objectively bad for the First Amendment, for democracy, for relations in this country between different ethnicities, gay people, straight people, black people, white people.
40:01What they're doing is bad. They're dividing people. And they are the number one thing that we should be concerned about is that the news is supposed to hold people in power accountable. It's not supposed to acquiesce or bend the knee. They are not holding the powerful accountable. And that is terrible for democracy. Yeah, because facts and fascism don't mingle well together. So she is a propagandist. Don Lemon is the best. Every other Friday on this show. Oh my gosh, Kylie, did you find it? Did you see that? Look, okay, check it out. Oh my. Well, well, well. What do we have here? I mean, Mr. Scott looks smitten, doesn't he?
40:51Look at the leg cross. I mean, yeah. Doesn't Jesse Waters talk about only gay men can cross their legs like that? I think Jesse said that on Fox the other night. Yeah. Attention at Jesse Waters at Greg Gutfield, please reply. Young man, there's no need to feel down. I said young man. The double jerk off. We're taking that song back. All right. Next week, next Friday, I'll be on Don's show. After that, he'll be back on my show. Let us know what you think. Drop comments. Go follow Don, follow us, and we'll see you next Friday.
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