In short
A critique of Donald Trump’s White House Correspondents’ Dinner performance, framing it as humiliating, mean-spirited, and hostile to journalists, with backlash from voters. The episode also discusses Trump’s jokes referencing a prior “assassination attempt” and Nicki Minaj twerking, his comments about Caitlin Collins (CNN) and Bud Light/Dylan Mulvaney, and media “capitulation” for not roasting him.
Guests
The transcript names Jennifer (host/author) and “Pumps” (co-host). It also references Jennifer’s book Not Today, Fascists.
Key claims
Trump blamed speechwriters, insulted journalists, mocked security (bulletproof vest), and used culture-war targets. The White House Correspondents Association lacked a comedian roast. Mainstream media normalized Trump by “glad-handing” figures like Stephen Miller.
Notable examples
Adam Schiff called “watermelon head”; Caitlin Collins award “fake” and “smile” comments; AI Bud Light image of Collins replacing Mulvaney; Trump supporters’ hostile True Social replies; Caitlin Collins’ pushback as a trigger for Trump.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Performance at the Dinner
0:10 to 1:23
Discussion on Trump's jokes and their appropriateness, particularly regarding age and context.
“The day a senator I knew got a text, a great guy, from his wife.”
Jokes and Insults: A Comedy Breakdown
1:23 to 3:15
Analysis of Trump's jokes including fat jokes and other comments that fell flat.
“Well, and this is just what you get when you have a war on comedy.”
The Nature of Trump's Humor
3:15 to 4:51
Exploration of Trump's comedic style and its implications on his public image.
“The reason is she paid and bought pardons for Trump from two of her family members, one of whom is like her boyfriend or her husband or whatever.”
Media's Response to Trump's Remarks
4:51 to 6:38
Discussion on how the media and public reacted to Trump's speech and behavior.
“I think the whole thing, the way he's treated journalism and the way they've allowed it is a fucking disgrace.”
Caitlin Collins and Trump's Reaction
6:38 to 8:00
Examining Trump's comments on CNN's Caitlin Collins and the implications of his remarks.
“did have to watch the entire thing in full.”
The Impact of Celebrity Comparisons
8:00 to 10:12
Analyzing Trump's comparison of Collins to Dylan Mulvaney and societal reactions.
“And I thought Caitlin had really made it big with a major new sponsorship.”
Trump's True Social Controversy
10:12 to 11:34
Discussion on Trump's post on True Social and the backlash it received from users.
“I haven't been on there in a while because every time I open my phone and I read it and I read the responses, I just realize how much trouble we are as a society, that those people are alive.”
Press Dynamics at the Dinner
11:34 to 14:00
A look into the relationship between the press and Trump during the Correspondents Dinner.
“I feel that society needs stronger, more robust education instead of cutting funding because we've got some real dumbasses out there.”
Media Accountability and Trump's Influence
14:00 to 16:40
Explore the failure of mainstream media to hold Trump accountable and the implications for democracy.
“I would no more sit there in glad hand with that man because I would feel like I had to take a shower afterwards.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04Trump took a break from bombing Iran to bomb at the White House Correspondence Dinner. Take a listen. The day a senator I knew got a text, a great guy, from his wife. And she said, when you get home, I want to have you immediately come up the stairs and make love to me. And he said, I can't do both. You know what the hell, you know? In other words, you can't go up the stairs and make love. Does anybody get that? Well, I thought that was actually pretty. You know what they say about jokes? If you're explaining, they're not funny. And here's the thing. Can you imagine a White House Correspondents' Dinner where Joe Biden, Barack Obama, George Bush sat there and talked about senators making loves to their wives?
0:53I mean, like the word making love should never come out of an 80-year-old's mouth. especially one with dementia that is in charge of our nuclear codes. That's just my opinion. I think it is disgusting. Well, and he goes on to blame the writers of his speech for his failed punchlines. And that is never a good sign of good comedy if you're blaming the writers. And we'll show even more of that as we get more into this video. Well, and this is just what you get when you have a war on comedy. A war on comedians. Exactly. The smart people don't want to work for you. Yeah. I was listening to Midas Touch this morning and they said, a friend of theirs, he's a Hollywood writer.
1:37He said for years, no one wants to work with Trump. These writers don't want to work with them. So this is what he gets. You can tell. And I also just want to point out, of course, it can't be the fact that he's a slurring, sweaty, dementia ridden slob up there delivering the jokes. It has to be somebody else's fault because in this man's mind, he has never been at fault for anything. That's just an aside. Okay, here's the fat slob talking about Nicki Minaj. But after hearing the gunshots, many people yelled, get down, get down, which caused Nicki Minaj to start twerking. Do you believe it? Get down.
2:20i'm not a psychologist but i mean this isn't how i would talk about my own alleged assassination attempt because that's what he's referencing he's talking about the first white house correspondence dinner uh you know where a shooter came in and he's joking about nikki minaj twerking on a table um i'd like someone to look into that some psychology he also joked about the bulletproof vest when they upped security for this round he said he didn't want wear it because it would make him look 20 pounds heavier so it's all a joke to him well because he knows in my mind the butler assassination attempt was not an assassination attempt it was a campaign stunt here's the thing about trump first of all i don't want to hear an 80 year old talk about twerking either i find it gross and for those of you wondering why would nikki minaj who is a career-driven Black woman be twerking for Trump.
3:16The reason is she paid and bought pardons for Trump from two of her family members, one of whom is like her boyfriend or her husband or whatever. So he's emphasizing just in this joke alone, he's emphasizing he's not funny. He shouldn't be saying twerking because he's too fucking old. And that Nicki Minaj bought and paid for a pardon for her family members so that it highlights again the corruption of this man speaking of you started to lay these out the washington post um kind of laid out his horrible night says he told a sex joke and several fat jokes he called senator adam schiff watermelon head he went on long tangents president trump's speech at the white house correspondence center swerved between jokes that fell flat and flat out insults.
4:09And, you know, I watched some of it. First of all, he went on and on. He's never found a 15 minute window that he could just get in, get out. He's never heard of the concept, leave them wanting more. It's always drone on until they fall out of their chairs with Gordon. But it was the same, you know, Biden insults. It's just the same grievances that he constantly shares. Yet now, instead of alleged karma that people told me he had this whole time, he just comes off because he is a mean, malignant narcissist, petulant child, titty baby. I have just never in my life seen a bigger fucking victim than Donald Trump.
4:57and it is so apparent when he gets him he wants people to laugh and they had to pat him on the back when people uh won the catherine graham award for the expose of the epstein files you know the birthday card that he lied about and you know caroline levitt was patting him on the back because melania was nowhere to be found correct melania jd vance and margot rubio all skipped the night because it's a humiliation exercise he humiliates himself and it's as jennifer would say trickle down humiliation it's just fucking first of all i can't even believe people went to this you wouldn't catch me dead or alive in that spot because the way he has attacked the press consistently the way he has forced news organizations to pay him money for doing nothing wrong, the obey in advance of the media and how the mainstream media has covered him and allowed him to say this horrible shit without pushback or fact check.
6:00I think it's a disgrace. I think the whole thing, the way he's treated journalism and the way they've allowed it is a fucking disgrace. If you want to fill up the room with Fox News, News Nation and Laura Loomer, go for it take it run but to me if i'm a self-respecting journalist the way he has attacked journalists and journalism in this administration you know he's subpoenaing new york times like i i'd just be like i'm out i'm out that's personal that's me it was one of his most meandering speeches to date which is saying a lot um i unfortunately did have to watch the entire thing in full. And pumps to your point, there was a capitulation on part of the White House Correspondents Association.
6:48There's usually a comedian who's there to roast the president. And you usually see that, you know, the president can take, take a joke, have a sense of humor. They didn't have that this year. So instead, what we got is basically just another campaign speech, but this time to a group of journalists that he's attacking. At one point, he said, we have the largest group of people with Trump derangement syndrome in one room at one time. So it's really disappointing. I mean, no president has attacked the press like he has. And yet we see all of these mainstream networks still showing up and debasing themselves in front of him.
7:30So at the dinner, Caitlin Collins was presented with an award for excellence in journalism. And obviously Trump couldn't stand to see that. And this is his response to her. They'll learn their lesson. But I want to personally congratulate CNN's Caitlin Collins on receiving her award. It was all about me. It's a fake. She shouldn't get the award. It was a fake, but I didn't mind. I said, Caitlin, congratulations. but it was fake. There's no question about it. But she's a young, attractive woman. She never smiles. I said, Caitlin, do you ever smile? Smile. You have a nice position. You're at CNN fake news.
8:12You should be a happy person. So smile, Caitlin, just smile. But we attack. And I thought Caitlin had really made it big with a major new sponsorship. But then I informed her that it wasn't her on the Bud Light can. It was Dylan Mulvaney. So he's comparing Caitlin Collins to trans activist actress Dylan Mulvaney. Which I think he thinks like that's like that's an insult, right? Like I would take that as a compliment. She's gorgeous. Like compare me to her all day long and twice on Sunday. Here's the thing. We've heard from former members of Trump 1.0 that Caitlin Colin triggers him the most because she doesn't back down.
8:57And she she's the only one that seems to consistently push back. She is a woman. She is a young woman that dripped with sexism, misogyny, cruelty, and hatefulness. And in my opinion, what would you expect from the quiet piggy that calls women reporters piggy and fat and all of those things like i expect nothing less but if i'm caitlin collins i take that as a badge of honor yeah i mean this is all they have is fueling culture wars i'm this happened in 2023 this bud light partnership with dylan mulvaney and in addition to everything that you said pumps i just want to be clear like bud light didn't run a major ad campaign with Dylan Mulvaney.
9:50It was two posts that she made on her personal social media. And three years later, we're talking about it as a punchline at the White House Correspondence Center, which obviously they didn't think was funny. I actually wasn't funny. I have a great response. Dylan put out a response to all of this and said, I'm still his topic of conversation all these years later. And it seems to me that I might be like the one that got away for these men like i am permanently burned into their retinas i am microchipped into their lives and she also took it as a compliment to be compared to caitlin well as she should both beautiful women yeah well trump didn't stop there he took to true social and he posted this ai photo of what is caitlin collins in place of dylan with the bud light ad and surprisingly he got a lot of pushback from true social users which is pretty much trump supporters here's a few of them you stupid loser fat fuck you're ruining the economy got us in a forever war and you're posting like a child go fuck yourself you're despicable idiot how about let's wrap it up with iran and stop the silly posting and it goes on and on i want to know if these are trolls or former trump supporters right because if they're trolls on true social like wow they're doing important work they are Well, and here's the deal.
11:07I have Trisocial. I haven't been on there in a while because every time I open my phone and I read it and I read the responses, I just realize how much trouble we are as a society, that those people are alive. These people are voting. They're in the gene pool. They're infiltrating. They're active on Trisocial. They're active. I mean, it's just it. I felt every time I look at that, I feel dumber. I feel less hope. I feel that society needs stronger, more robust education instead of cutting funding because we've got some real dumbasses out there. So the fallout from the speech, it goes across a lot of major news networks as well.
11:52There were people calling into C-SPAN that were Trump voters, said it was the worst shit they've ever heard in their life. And then we've got Scott Jennings on CNN who couldn't even stomach something nice to say about it. Some of the jokes veered off into very sort of ornery insults. And that's not going to land for many audiences. But I did like the part about not yielding to political violence. And I did like the fact that he did show respect to the press and their role in our American politics. Right. He's trying very hard to find something there. Yeah, he had to like say he didn't like what he said about Caitlin Collins, but then he had to glaze him up otherwise.
12:32Because the only person he gives a shit that's watching is Trump. And here's the thing. Donald Trump has respect for no one. So immediately when he says he showed respect, it is impossible for this man to show respect because he has no self-respect. Correct. Okay. And then lastly, people on social media have been talking about this clip a lot. So I'm going to put this up. We've got Dasha Burns and Kristen Welker seen like key keying it up with Stephen Miller at this dinner. And obviously it's got a lot of people up in arms. It's saying this is why you can't trust the media. You don't hate the media enough.
13:15Here's the thing about this. So I've listened and read a lot about these dinners and how the press interacts. And I think it's unanimous that the press and the president, even if they are at odds, they glad hand and they, you know, buddy, buddy with each other. Okay, that's probably true. I used to have cases with lawyers that I hated. We would go after each other in the courtroom. We were professional outside the courtroom. That's appropriate. Stephen Miller is in charge for death, destruction, white supremacy, and hate. He is the chief architect of all of these things through Trump's administration.
14:01I would no more sit there in glad hand with that man because I would feel like I had to take a shower afterwards. And so it was disappointing to see Kristen Welker. She could have been professional. Hello, Mr. Miller, and kept on going. But the glad handing and how the press is normalizing the behavior of this administration, that to me encapsulates the whole thing. the majority of the mainstream media has dropped the ball. They have failed the American people. They have failed their fourth estate. Bob Woodward back in Nixon's days, they have failed dramatically at that. And whether it's corporate, whether it's what they want people to agree to be on their shows, whether it gives them ratings, it goes to the politicians.
14:56Have some conviction. Everybody in that room knows what Trump has done, both at home and abroad. They know about the allies. They know about the war. They know about the economy. They know all of this shit. And so to sit there in glad hand, particularly with Stephen Miller, I find absolutely repulsive. And I will never, ever have any respect for Kristen Welker ever again. I do think that that was the original intent of this dinner and has been sort of the point of it over the years. But we are living in a completely different moment. I mean, this administration is making unprecedented attacks on the press every day.
15:37Last week, they were subpoenaing reporters from The New York Times. We had Mike Waltz on, I believe it might have been Meet the Press this week, calling for sources to be leaked from an article that was critical of the Pentagon and it lying about the war in Iran. Look what they did on Signalgate. They included a journalist on bombing and then the journalist was the asshole? Right. You're the asshole. You all included him, invited him on a group text about bombing where you're high fiving and fist bumping about killing people. Nobody is the asshole in that room except for the politician and administration and the reporters that allow it or at least acquiesce it, especially on TV.
16:27And it's even grosser in private because they know. We can say that, you know, some people, they drink the Kool-Aid, they're in the cold, but these journalists know better. Yeah. All right, Pumps, you want to close it out? All right. Please hit the like and subscribe button. And below, the link in the show notes for Jennifer's book, Not Today, Fascists, The Lies That Got Us Here and The Truth That Will Reunite Us. It's coming out in October. Please pre-order and we will be back with more news.
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