Trump Does Not Want People Seeing Bombshell Testimony

6 Jan 2026 · 18 min · 10 chapters

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IHIP News Podcast Episode Summary: Trump Does Not Want People Seeing Bombshell Testimony

Episode Overview In this episode of IHIP News, hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan delve into the implications of recent testimony regarding the January 6 Capitol riots and the actions of former President Donald Trump. They express frustration over the delayed response from the Biden administration and the Justice Department, emphasizing the need for accountability.

Key Discussion Points

Failure of the Justice Department

  • Urgency of Special Counsel Appointment:
  • The hosts argue that the Biden Justice Department's top priority upon taking office in January 2020 should have been to appoint a special counsel to investigate the events leading up to and including January 6.
  • They criticize the two-year delay in appointing Jack Smith, which they believe contributed to the erosion of accountability and public trust.

Frustration Over Public Perception

  • Cognitive Dissonance:
  • The hosts lament that many people are acting as if the revelations from Jack Smith's testimony are new when the events and their implications have been evident for years.
  • They highlight the disconnect between public awareness of the violence of January 6 and the political discourse surrounding it.

Injustice Towards Law Enforcement

  • Police Injuries During January 6:
  • The episode references Jack Smith’s statements about the severe injuries sustained by law enforcement officers during the Capitol riot, which included cracked ribs and brain injuries.
  • Smith's assertion that pardoning individuals involved in the violence does not contribute to national safety further underscores the seriousness of the events.

Critique of Political Leaders

  • Bipartisan Criticism:
  • The hosts express disdain for both Republican and Democratic leaders who have failed to act decisively against Trump and his supporters.
  • They argue this inaction has allowed misinformation and a disregard for the law to flourish, undermining democracy.

Jack Smith's Testimony Highlights

  • Trump's Culpability:
  • Jack Smith emphasized that Trump was the most culpable individual in the conspiracy surrounding January 6.
  • The episode features clips where Smith confirms that Trump knew he lost the 2020 election and still sought to overturn the results.

Decline of Republican Values

  • Changing Norms:
  • The hosts reflect on how the Republican Party, once known for its commitment to law and order, has altered its stance under Trump’s influence.
  • They illustrate a shift from valuing objective legal processes to embracing a narrative that undermines accountability.

Key Takeaways

  • Need for Accountability:
  • The hosts underscore the importance of holding those responsible for January 6 accountable, arguing that it is essential for the future integrity of American democracy.
  • Impact of Delayed Justice:
  • The episode highlights how the delay in accountability has affected public trust in institutions and contributed to a sense of despair among citizens.
  • Role of Media and Public Discourse:
  • The discussion points to the role of media in shaping public perception and the need for informed discourse about political accountability.

Conclusion The episode concludes with a sense of urgency for political reform and accountability, stressing the importance of having a robust opposition in American politics, particularly against Trumpism. The hosts promise to return with more updates and discussions on this evolving issue.

Additional Notes

  • Call to Action:
  • Listeners are encouraged to engage with the content through the podcast’s various platforms, including purchasing books and merchandise through their link.
  • Future Discussions:
  • The hosts hint at diving deeper into the role of tech oligarchs and the implications of their influence on politics in future episodes.

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Chapters

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Failed Appointments and Accountability

0:45 to 3:30

Discussion on the Biden DOJ's failure to appoint a special counsel sooner and its implications for democracy.

“And when relief never showed up, I knew it was an inside job.”

Jack Smith's Deposition Highlights

3:30 to 5:52

Examination of Jack Smith's deposition regarding the injuries sustained by police during the Capitol riot.

“And it's just, it's so sickening that we have such smart minds like Jack Smith, who is an incredible, incredible DOJ employee.”

Trump's Culpability and Criminal Intent

5:52 to 7:49

Analysis of Trump's role and intent during the January 6th Capitol attack as stated by Jack Smith.

“He endangered the life of his vice president.”

The Republican Party's Transformation

7:49 to 10:51

A look at how the Republican Party's stance on law enforcement and accountability has changed over the last decade.

“Amy Siskind, whom I absolutely love with Democracy Now!”

Failure of the Justice Department

10:51 to 12:37

Discussion on the delays and failures of the Justice Department in addressing Trump's actions post-January 6th.

“And I, here's, what's so stunning to me about the whole Jack Smith thing.”

The Need for an Opposition Party

12:37 to 14:02

Reflections on the importance of a strong opposition party and the failures of the Democratic Party.

“At the end of 2025, at the beginning of 2026, six years later, what a failure of the Justice Department.”

Critique of Democratic Accountability

14:02 to 14:15

Discussion on the perceived failures of Democrats in accountability.

“They've proven that they dip their toes on both sides of it.”

Jack Smith's Investigation Insights

14:16 to 15:17

Exploration of Jack Smith’s investigation into Trump’s actions post-election.

“Let's just start with the bottom line up front.”

Concerns Over Government Integrity

15:18 to 16:35

Discussion on the integrity of government appointments and influences.

“And now hearings like this, which America's had a lot of problems.”

Reflections on Accountability and Law

16:36 to 17:16

Reflections on the decline of accountability and rule of law in politics.

“You have even people that are handpicked from the Kremlin that have very high positions of power in the government.”
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0:04The number one job of the Biden Justice Department when they took office in January of 2020 should have been a special counsel appointment. immediately, immediately appointed. We all saw what we saw. I don't need to hear one bit of testimony from Jack Smith, who I think has done an excellent job, but he wasn't appointed until 2022. I don't need to hear one bit of his sworn testimony to know what my eyes showed me. It showed me a president of the United States riling up a bunch of rubes to march to the Capitol to storm it. And when relief never showed up, I knew it was an inside job. It doesn't take that much of deduction skills to figure this out.

0:56Yet, Joe Biden's DOJ failed America, failed democracy, and Jack Smith was not appointed for two years, two years after all of these cops were beat up, after Congress was completely ransacked. People took a shit in there. But now everybody, and I commend Jack Smith's work. I think he's smart. I think he's an incredible prosecutor. He should have been appointed January 22nd, 2020, whatever the date is that after Joe Biden got into office. Anyway, here are some of the items coming out of this. And again, I want to remind you, we all knew this. We all saw it. This isn't new information. Pop this up.

1:43Seth McFarland tweets, amid whitewashing of history of Capitol siege, new transcript of House interview with Jack Smith highlights police injuries, cracked ribs, traumatic brain injuries, smashed spinal discs, and heart attacks as rioters used bats, poles, chemical sprays, stolen police shields, and batons. And so they asked Jack Smith, are you aware that more than 140 police officers who were injured by the pro-Trump mob on January 6th, sustaining injuries, and then they list all the injuries. Are you aware of those facts on that day? Jack Smith responds, very much so. They asked Jack Smith this, do you believe that pardoning individuals like this who committed crimes against law enforcement that day makes our country safe.

2:34Jack Smith responds, it does not, in my view. And this is what's so frustrating about reading this to you right now, is so many people are like, we told you it was bad. And it's like, we've always known it was bad. It's that this is like, people are somehow like taking a victory lap with this. We all saw it. We all knew it. Trump had two years with his freak show friends, the Kraken lawyer and the MyPillow guy, to just completely whitewash all of this and all of the pro cop. I'm the blue line American. I stand with the troops. I'm law and order. They all are liars. Every bit of it is pro crime, pro power, pro we want the biggest piece of shit to be in charge so we can get away with anything.

3:29So we're not held to the same standard that everybody else's stands up to. And it's just, it's so sickening that we have such smart minds like Jack Smith, who is an incredible, incredible DOJ employee. And he is relegated to this deposition that gets dropped on New Year's Eve. Right. That they would not, that Congress would not put for public consumption at the time that it's all happening, you know, backwards. I saw all of this stuff come out. My blood was boiling. I was so fucking mad at Merrick Garland, Donald Trump, I'm sorry. And Joe Biden. Cause I was like, you fucking could have stopped this on a dime, but you didn't because you thought, No, everybody knows what happened.

4:14Everybody saw it. We assume people are going to have integrity. We assume no one's going to forget. And they allowed the machine of Donald Trump and the right wing media and Fox News to turn it into a death step. And it also reminded me that our Senator Boosterbox, Mark Wayne Mullins, is cowering in the Capitol and he has run around on every interview and excused Trump's behavior on this. It makes me sick. They know exactly what he did. And also what an indictment this is on all of these billionaire tech leaders that we all saw it and that they all colluded to make sure that this man, this criminal, this criminal who could not accept that he lost, who wanted to throw feces, literal feces all over, who wanted his vice president killed.

5:09that these industry titans, that these people who have made so much money off of a rigged economic system in their favor, and that they wanted him to get elected again. This whole Jack Smith thing is an indictment on the Democratic Party for not taking the appointment of DOJ, the most serious appointment of our lifetime, and we don't get Jack Smith until 2022? It's just, it's crazy. All right. Here is Jack Smith on Trump refusing to send help to the Capitol. Play the clip. That violence started. The president refused to stop it. He endangered the life of his vice president. And he's getting calls and not just not calls from from Democrats, not calls from people he doesn't know, calls from people he trusts, calls from people he relies on and still refuses to come to the aid of the people at the Capitol.

6:12That's very important evidence for criminal intent in our case. We heard Mike McCarthy say that Trump was like, I don't care. I mean, he was flippant. He did not give a shit. He did not want to send help because he sat there and he lied to people for three months about a stolen election, knowing they believed him when he knew it was a lie. These motherfuckers lie like they breathe. Are you kidding me? Sorry. And I think it's interesting to point out that this video that we just saw of Jack Smith, this used to be kind of the Republican law and order default setting. The Republican Party just like 10 years ago, this type of of litigator in the DOJ that is fact-driven, law-driven, procedural-driven.

7:04That was kind of a default setting. Typically, a lot of these law enforcements, if you go to their voter registration, are Republicans. In just 10 years, Donald Trump has taken to where now his position, which is fact-based, following the laws, procedures, is now some woke issue. Right. And it's stunning to me the death spiral and the 180-degree turn of country club Republicans. That used to be kind of their MO, this type of DOJ, this type of FBI. And now it's just a complete mockery of what it once was. So here is an article from Reuters where Jack Smith said Trump knew that he lost. Pop this up.

7:54Amy Siskind, whom I absolutely love with Democracy Now! tweets, Jack Smith says Trump acknowledged to others that he lost the 2020 election. We know this, and this is not new information. But then it brings us to a video where Jack Smith says that Trump was the most culpable person in January 6th. And just the day that I watched it while I was at my interior design office and I'm watching the whole thing, I knew exactly who was at the epicenter of this entire thing. I know who started it. I know who refused to stop it. I know who finally stopped it. It was abundantly obvious to anybody that even has an average IQ what this was all about.

8:39Play the clip. The evidence here made clear that President Trump was, by a large measure, the most culpable and most responsible person in this conspiracy. These crimes were committed for his benefit. The attack that happened at the Capitol as part of this case does not happen without him. The other co-conspirators were doing this for his benefit. So in terms of why we would pursue a case against him, I entirely disagree with any characterization that our work was in any way meant to hamper him in the presidential election. I would never take orders from a political leader to hamper another person in an election.

9:33You know, it's interesting because Trump, all he talked about during his campaign for 2024 was weaponization of the Justice Department. And I believe Jack Smith, because he has served in as a prosecutor at The Hague to make objective decisions based on fact and not politics. And then you see Trump goes in and he just makes DOJ his own personal attorney. But Donald Trump knew he lost. Donald Trump wanted to stay in office, which goes back to the billionaires. They want him in office too because they get whatever the fuck they want. They are okay with the president that launched a coup because they get what they want.

10:15And Donald Trump did not want to leave office. He paid his own money. He pays his own money for fucking nothing. He paid his own money to help this. nobody benefited from that action more than Donald Trump. Rudy Giuliani disbarred. You go through the list. You know, people went to jail. This man wanted to overthrow the government full stop. There is no other way around it. He fed people full of lies that he knew were impressionable because he didn't want to leave the White House, which is why it's so fucking terrifying what he's going to build at the, where the old East wing was. And I, here's, what's so stunning to me about the whole Jack Smith thing.

10:56And I want to take it back to the oligarchs after January 6th, Trump was banned by all of these oligarchs on all of these sites, because what he did was so illegal and dangerous and harmful and criminal. And he was banned from all of these places. He was a pariah. And then two years go by before Jack Smith is even able to start his investigation. And in those two years that we did not see this criminal act quickly and efficiently and immediately rectified, it broke a lot of people. It broke the oligarchs. And there's an episode we could do later that they've always been broken and exploitative.

11:44But in this moment, in that moment, Trump was banned from everything. I think even Pinterest chimed in. I was like, yeah, we're banning Donald Trump. We're like, okay, whatever, Pinterest. But he was a complete pariah. And these types of hearings where you hear an incredibly intelligent person spit facts based on evidence used to be the norm, right? Republicans, the Republican Party used to get off on this kind of shit. this type of law and order accountability style hearings. And I'm just so fascinated how in such a short period of time, the entire country has been completely broken. And then when you hear him do this, like nothing Jack Smith says surprises me, nothing.

12:33What surprises me is that we're just now hearing it. At the end of 2025, at the beginning of 2026, six years later, what a failure of the Justice Department. What a failure of the United States of America. What a failure of all of the industry titans and political leaders who have bent the need him and even Democrats who have voted for a lot of his people in his cabinet. After January 6th, any Democrat, even the vote for Marco Rubio, no, it's disqualifying. If Marco Rubio wants to go work for a man that put his vice president's life in danger, put everybody in the Capitol at danger, something's wrong with Marco Rubio.

13:25That should have not been a 99 and O vote. That should a zero to 99 vote and something about this whole thing broke our country and if you're a republican and you've triple trumped it broke you and it made you worse of a person that you are and if you're a progressive like we are it broke us and we're descending into nihilism and fear and absolutely no faith none whatsoever in any institution most importantly for me the democratic party because there has to be an opposition party. There has to be an opposition to this. And time and time again, the Democrats have not proven to be that. They've proven that they dip their toes on both sides of it.

14:09And it's just so infuriating. And I'll leave you with this. Jack Smith said he would have gotten a conviction. Surprise, surprise, play the clip. Let's just start with the bottom line up front. One of your investigations focused on whether any person violated the law in connection with efforts to interfere in the lawful transfer of power following the 2020 election. Is that correct? Yes. At the conclusion of that investigation related to the interference in the lawful transfer of power following the 2020 election, when your office indicted Mr. Trump for his criminal scheme to overturn the 2020 election, did you believe that you had sufficient evidence to obtain and sustain a conviction against Mr.

14:44Donald Trump? Yes. For these charges stemming from Mr. Trump's criminal scheme to overturn the 2020 election, did you believe that you had sufficient evidence to prove these charges beyond a reasonable doubt? Yes. And we know that it's more than just a reasonable doubt. Did you believe that there were multiple substantial federal interests in proceeding with prosecuting Mr. Trump after he attempted to criminally overturn the 2020 election? I did. Of course he would have gotten a conviction. We were sitting in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, and we could see Trump's culpability. Of course he would have gotten a criminal conviction.

15:16But he didn't get the chance because of the absolute failure of Merrick Garland and Joe Biden. There's no question about it. This is such a travesty. And now hearings like this, which America's had a lot of problems. But when there is wrongdoing, we have put experts like Jack Smith in charge of fact-finding missions in the DOJ or special counsel's office to go and bird dog out what really happened and use procedures and policies that are fair and legal and sane. And now you have cash, cha-ching, Patel money out on a bender drinking with his pals, talking about his country music sensation girlfriend on Twitter.

16:06Hey, we have the suspect, JK, JK. No, we don't have the suspect. And it's just that type of decorum and intelligence, that is gone. That's what they thought the deep state was, which was all a ruse. because what they saw as the deep state were independent jurists like him. And now they are putting all Trump loyalists in. And now we really have a swamp and we really have a deep state and they are embedding these people in all over the government. You have even people that are handpicked from the Kremlin that have very high positions of power in the government. You have a bunch of these tech oligarch people that have been given high positions in the United States Army.

16:55And you can dig deeper and deeper and deeper into this. But this is just, to me, the whole Jack Smith thing, I was surprised zero on any of it. But it caused me an intense amount of sadness because those days of hearings like this, of accountability of people following the rule of law are gone. And that used to be something the Republican Party embraced. That's the kind of stuff where the party of decorum and a rule of law and blah, blah. And now they're just, you know, you got Fleabag, Lindsey Graham and Moses Mike Grinder Johnson and all these dipshits that just go on Fox News and just humiliate and embarrass themselves.

17:37And it's just, it's really difficult to be an American. It is. It's really difficult. And you look at it and you think you cannot shame the shameless. They have no shame. All right, that's all we have. We'll be back later with more news.

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