In short
The episode argues that AI and US politics are moving toward catastrophe without effective oversight. It highlights Anthropic CEO warnings that AI could autonomously build future AI and, within 6–12 months, a “rogue swarm” could take over the internet via a persistent botnet, causing hundreds of billions in damage. Hosts claim Elon Musk backs similar concerns and reference Jacob Coxon’s viral “AI extinction” warning. They criticize Trump for rejecting AI slowdown/regulation, saying he prioritizes China competition (“whoever wins AI wins”) and wants to prevent state guardrails. They also claim Congress and media are captured by tech oligarchs (citing Gil Duran’s The Nerd Reich) and that Obama urges Democrats to prioritize AI oversight.
Notable examples
Trump’s China/guardrails comments; Speaker Johnson saying Congress is unqualified; Obama’s private fundraiser warning; Jared Kushner/Steve Witkoff mediating Russia-Ukraine talks; and a 60 Minutes segment pressured by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.
Guests
Josh, Pumps, and Angie (no further background provided).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAI's Dire Warnings from Anthropic CEO
0:58 to 4:26
Discussion on alarming AI predictions and the potential for disaster.
“It's always been AI and the tech oligarchs that were coming for us.”
Trump's Position on AI Regulation
4:26 to 9:08
Exploration of Trump's views on AI and its implications for America.
“Or is whoever wins AI gets killed by AI?”
Obama's Call for AI Oversight
9:08 to 11:30
Discussion on Obama's stance and the need for Democratic leaders to prioritize AI regulation.
“right now anybody thinks that many people think about what the voters want.”
Media and Government Collusion
11:30 to 14:00
Examination of the relationship between media and government under the current administration.
“They slowly have now merged CBS with the government.”
The Media's Role in Political Propaganda
14:00 to 16:48
Learn how media outlets influence public perception and political narratives.
“in a way that we can get Russia to end the conflict in a way that hopefully allows both parties to move forward in a framework where this doesn't happen again.”
Trump, Kushner, and Ukraine Negotiations
16:48 to 18:28
Discover the implications of Trump's and Kushner's approach to Ukraine amidst the conflict.
“what a bad situation and a bad deal and that we're only after money when we go over there and negotiate with Russia because the Secretary of State is not going.”
Transcript
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1:04All right. It's always been AI and the tech oligarchs that were coming for us. It's never been the immigrants. It's never been the LGBTQ plus community. It's never been the zero trans players in the WNBA. And the Anthropic CEO makes a dire warning about the future of AI. Pop this up. Okay, this is starting to feel like a fucking disaster. The CEO of Anthropic just published an article admitting AI is already building the next generation of AI by itself. He says within six to 12 months, a rogue swarm could take over the entire internet and cause hundreds of billions of dollars in damage. And what makes it scarier, Elon Musk just backed up everything Dario said.
1:52All of this dropping just days after Jacob Coxon went viral with his warning about AI and the extinction of humanity. Tell me this isn't strange. And in the article or in the statement, they write, In 6 to 12 months, such a swarm could be capable of taking over the entire Internet with a persistent botnet, potentially causing hundreds of billions of dollars in damage. And the scale of damage would continue to increase from there if AI becomes more powerful without the necessary guardrails. I wonder if we have a government that's interested in guardrails. Josh? Well, this is one of those scenarios.
2:34Who do you trust here? Do you trust these billionaire CEOs that they really need regulation? I think there is some truth to that. I think that based on that piece that the Insider published just a few days ago, there's some merit to that. But I think it's an about face for the CEOs of these AI companies to now all of a sudden say this unless there's some financial gain from them, some financial motive. And so we're in this scenario. I don't really trust what they're saying, but I do think that there's merit to it. And we damn sure don't trust our government. All right, Pumps, let me get your take on this.
3:08Here's Trump rejecting any calls for the AI slowdown. Play the clip. A lot of concerning reports about AI. Should the AI industry slow down or be more regulated? Well, I say this, look, we're leading China in AI. We're the most sophisticated country in the world. And frankly, I want to keep it that way because whoever wins AI wins. And we can quit guardrails. We can do this and that. But I think you have a lot of negative forces that are bringing it up that shouldn't be bringing it up. It's pretty rich for Trump to talk about negative forces. is here's the thing. He scares people with China's going to be ahead of us.
3:46The reality is, since he has been in government, these big tech oligarchs have bribed him, paid him, corrupted whatever. He's gotten rich. His kids have gotten richer. And then not only does he not want to put federal regulations on it, he is trying to institute policies that will not allow the states to control AI. That tells me this is a terrifying situation because if Trump is all in on these oligarchs getting power, it's because he wants to enrich himself. It's not for the good of the American people at all, in my opinion. Well, and he says whoever wins AI wins. Is that true? Or is whoever wins AI gets killed by AI?
4:29Right. Furthermore, nobody has assisted China more than Donald Trump in this regime. No one has assisted the rise of China as a superpower and the demise of the United States of America as a superpower more than Donald Trump. Our former allies, and I say former loosely there, but I think they would consider former, Canada, the EU, who are they looking to as reliable trade partners? Not this dipshit who goes through dementia sundowner hour every day, multiple times a day, goes on these AI slop posting sprees, they are going to China as a more reliable trading partner. But let's listen to what the Speaker of the House, little Moses Mike Grinder Johnson, a guy who has power, a guy who could put in a guardrail.
5:14What does he do and say about this? Play the clip. The guys who are raising the alarms right now all have very different ideas on what the guardrail should be. There's no consensus among them. And Congress is obviously less qualified than the people who are pushing this frontier to know all the ins and outs of it. So this has to be a partnership with the industry itself, with the corporations that are doing this, and with the policy and lawmakers. Josh. Well, that sounds reassuring, doesn't it? Although he does make the admission that Congress is unqualified, like he does make that admission up front.
5:49You know, every time I hear an interview with him, it just gets worse and worse and worse. And I think we'll probably revisit that same interview later. We have no leadership at the federal government. We have no oversight. We have nothing. Of course, AI needs to be regulated. Everybody knows that. We've been screaming that forever. And he's got no opinion about this. He's got no leadership. He's got no policy. He's just got nothing, which is typical for Republicans. If he's not screaming about trans issues, he's not saying a damn thing. And I think it's important to listen to what the people who are really embedded into tech and covering it, journalists like Gil Duran, he just wrote a book called The Nerd Reich.
6:32The desire of these tech oligarchs is to create one government of the world that is run by technology. And in that technology, they provide us socialism, communism, the money and the goods that we need and these tech oligarchs run the technology as crazy and dystopian as that sounds look into what peter thiel curtis yarvin and others want to do these guys get so much money they enter a stage of billionaire psychosis they get bored and they think oh what else can we create what else can we create they want to dismantle democracy they want to dismantle all humanness in the world. This is really gross stuff.
7:16Teens share everything. That may include the bacteria that can cause meningococcal disease known as meningitis. Even if your teen's been vaccinated in the past, they could still be missing meningitis vaccinations. Ask your teen's doctor or visit meningitis.com today. Sponsored by GSK. Moving along. Obama is warning Democrats about AI. Pop this up. Obama implored Democratic leaders to move AI oversight to the center of the party's agenda, warning during a private fundraiser this past week that the technology could be dangerous if they do not get on top of it. Bernie Sanders, of course, has been saying this as well.
7:52But I think this is really smart strategically, Angie, because you look at what happens with the data centers and the outpouring bipartisan support of the people that have to live around these data centers screaming, no, we don't want them near us. What's your take? Well, I think that Obama is a brilliant politician and I completely agree with him. But I would say that the American public has made their feelings about AI as clear as crystal. Same with the government of Israel. So I'm saying, listen to your constituents. Obama is voicing concerns the American people are voicing and you have Trump poo-pooing it.
8:35And so we need to see these lawmakers, are they getting funding from, you know, Israeli corporate interests? And are they getting funding from AI corporate interests? And we know for a fact, you know, Chuck Schumer, speaker of the, or I'm sorry, the Senate minority leader is ass deep with Palantir. So I think as voters, we've made our mark on what we think of this issue. And I am glad to see Obama coming out front and saying, hey, you got to pay attention. Yeah. And I just don't think that right now anybody thinks that many people think about what the voters want. That's why I think you have these independent candidates in the DSA that are winning because they are speaking to the needs of policies that can deliver materially for the people.
9:25And so then you look at who is opposing DSA candidates, the Democratic establishment, and the Republican Party, every single bit of it, all of it. And so as we see this economic populism rise up, the forces that are uniting with the tech oligarchs in the United States government, this is an uphill battle, but we can do it. What they've done, which is just insane, is they are embedded now in the national government, in the federal government. This technology is embedded. Do you remember the story about a year ago, where in the Army and in the Pentagon, they were putting tech CEOs and whatnot embedded in the United States military.
10:12And now the new season of 60 Minutes premiered last night, and this administration is already colluding with Barry Weiss. Pop this up. Hegseth heavily pressured the two crew members of the US F-115 or F-15 shot down over Iran in April to appear on tonight's 60 Minutes report on their rescue, meeting them privately and asking them whether they would take part voluntarily or be directly ordered to after both had raised concerns about the interview per CNN. One airman agreed, the other one refused. Josh, this type of propaganda that is now being ordered from the Secretary of Defense, he's ordering United States military to go on TV and propagandize about the failures of Pete Hegsus Reign as Defense Secretary.
11:13Any other administration, this would be a page one headline. This would be a top story. Here it's buried somewhere because of all of the other corruption. But keep in mind, we executed individuals on boats outside of Venezuela. I mean, just downright executions by the orders of Pete Hegseth. So none of this is a surprise. They slowly have now merged CBS with the government. So it's what we talked about earlier, where the government becomes quasi partners with various media outlets. And that's what's happened here. And all of this is a disgrace. At some point, there's going to have to be some accountability when the Democrats take over and ask questions about this because we have a Congress that just lays down.
12:00There's been plenty of evidence to support the fact that Pete Hexeth, and this is by both aisles, is simply an incompetent leader. He's incompetent. He's way above his head. Both members of each party have said that. This is another example of that. It's like you've got some bro running the Department of Defense or Department of War, whatever it is they want to call it, who's completely incompetent. Yeah. And this is an opportunity for the Democrats to really message this propaganda that the Republican Party has perpetuated for decades. We support the troops. We need to start calling out the Republicans say a lot of things, but their votes do not back that up.
12:45they talk the talk, but they never walk the walk. Blackmailing and ordering and getting involved in a United States military officer to go propagandize, aka lie for Pete Hegseth is not supporting the troops. It's not supporting the constitution. We have a government right now that is actively trying to dismantle our government. So when you hear Donald Trump talk about China winning. Well, yeah, you're making sure of that. But also another adversary of ours is just delighted, absolutely delighted at the arrival of the incompetent dipshit cabinet of Donald Trump. And that, of course, is Vladimir Putin in Russia.
13:32And here's a clip. Jared Kushner continues to pursue Russian interests on behalf of the United States. This is stunning. Play the clip? Look, I think right now from the Ukraine perspective, I mean, President Putin's laid out his line of what he wants to achieve. If Ukraine wanted to withdraw to that line, then obviously, we have the rest of the deal set up and put together. Ukraine right now does not want to do that. And obviously, our job as the mediators to figure out how can we come up with a creative solution that doesn't violate their desires and that helps them achieve their objective and does in a way that we can get Russia to end the conflict in a way that hopefully allows both parties to move forward in a framework where this doesn't happen again.
14:17Boy, fascism really ages people, doesn't it? I mean, my God, I don't even think he's 40, is he? He looks 65. Josh, I think you were going to say something before, and then we'll get to the Russia stuff. Well, I was going to say the part on CBS, what's new here is not that this administration would sponsor a perjury or someone lying blatantly. That's we expect that. What's new here is that you have one of our major news outlets that would take this kind of information and report on it. Normally, CBS wouldn't specifically 60 minutes would be a little more toned out to some of the administration's propaganda.
14:58But here they embrace it. And that's why they're buying up the media. That's why Benjamin Netanyahu wanted the same guy that bought CBS, Larry Ellison, who actively gave the IDF money during the genocide of Palestinians. He also wanted him to buy TikTok. So these really nefarious dark guys have billionaires carrying the water for them. And imagine you have all this money. You could do so many good things. And here's what they're choosing to do. But pumps is we get to Russia again. This is Jared Kushner. I believe he could not pass like an FBI security clearance, security clearance. And he is always next to Vladimir Putin and his I call him Tweedledee and Whitcoff Tweedledip shit.
15:48They said Vladimir Putin is just always so respectful to us. And I'm like, of course he is. He is a former KGB agent. He is playing. Y 'all talk about people playing chess. He's genuinely playing chess. These are diabolical smart people. You work for a diabolical dipshit. The fact that he is saying that Ukraine just needs to give Putin what he wants and that we still have some European allies bending the knee to Trump is a real wake up moment here. Yeah. And I look at Jerry Kushner and I think, I mean, obviously he's not an expert in any of this, but the way he speaks and talks and his just complete arrogance to think that he's the guy, that I'm the guy that's going to fix this when really he just wants Ukraine to lay down.
16:42And I would just say to me, and I think Marco Rubio sucks all the way, but this tells me what a bad situation and a bad deal and that we're only after money when we go over there and negotiate with Russia because the Secretary of State is not going. It's these two, Jared Kushner, who has personally enriched himself, Steve Witkoff, personally enriched themselves. So this is not a diplomatic mission. This is a pocketbook mission. And it really makes me sad for the people of Ukraine that this we're dragging this out after Trump was going to stop the war in one day, which everybody with a brain knew is bullshit.
17:20Yeah, everything with this administration is a complete shakedown. And the fix is in the fix is in the only way to halt the fix is the midterms. And one final clip here. Trump was asked about Tweedledee and Tweedledip shit leading negotiations. Play the clip. Right. Whitcoff and Kushner at all and their ability to close the deal. Look at Gaza as an example. Look at the fact we've got all the hostages back. Great example. We've got the hostages back. You know, people forget there's not a lot of fighting in Gaza. This is exactly the type of propaganda that CBS, Barry Weiss, and everybody is promoting.
18:04when real journalists out there are uncovering that Benjamin Netanyahu was warned directly that this was going to happen. Other journalists have reported that Hamas offered to give all of the hostages back, and Israel ignored that request. And this is reporting. I don't know if it's substantiated or not. But again, the through line in all of this stuff is the fix is in, and the only remedy are the midterms. All right, thanks for joining us. Make sure you subscribe, like, and comment, and we will be back later with more news.
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