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IHIP News Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title
Trump Loses All Control as MAGA Influencers Go Rogue
Hosts
Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Episode Overview In this episode, the hosts explore the chaotic landscape of right-wing media, focusing particularly on the actions and statements of Candace Owens. Known for her controversial views and significant influence within MAGA circles, Owens has been embroiled in a series of conspiracy theories and sensational claims that have sparked discussion and outrage.
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Key Themes and Discussions
Candace Owens and Her Influence
- The Role of Candace Owens: Described as a prominent right-wing figure, Owens commands a large and dedicated following, often engaging in inflammatory rhetoric.
- Controversial Claims: Owens has been known for her assertions regarding various topics, including a conspiracy theory about Emmanuel Macron’s wife and her involvement in the investigation surrounding the murder of her friend, Charlie Kirk.
Conspiracy Theories
- Spiritual Warfare: The episode highlights a recurring theme in Owens' rhetoric involving the concept of spiritual warfare, with references to witches and curses.
- Allegations of Misinformation: The hosts criticize Owens for spreading what they consider to be false narratives, particularly regarding the alleged shooter Tyler Robinson, claiming that mainstream media narratives are fabricated.
The Right-Wing Media Landscape
- Decline of Traditional Narratives: The episode discusses how the right-wing media has shifted from previous conspiracy theories (e.g., QAnon) to newer, unverified claims that gain traction online.
- Grifters in Politics: Jennifer and Angie label Owens as a grifter who leverages tragedy for personal gain and attention.
Critique of Political Figures
- Benjamin Netanyahu's Role: The hosts analyze Netanyahu's political maneuvers and his efforts to secure American support for Israel, criticizing the perceived manipulation of public sentiment towards Israel.
- Charlie Kirk's Legacy: The episode touches on the factional disputes within right-wing circles regarding who can succeed Kirk as a leader and how Owens positions herself in this power struggle.
Social Commentary
- Emotional Manipulation: Jennifer and Angie discuss the emotional state of Owens' followers, portraying them as needing strong leadership due to feelings of worthlessness and manipulation through religious indoctrination.
- Criticism of American Media: There is a broader critique on how right-wing media feeds into conspiracy theories, impacting public perception and trust in institutions.
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Key Takeaways
- Importance of Awareness: The hosts emphasize the necessity for those on the left to understand the dynamics and narratives being propagated by the right-wing media.
- Grifter Culture: Owens' behavior exemplifies how some figures exploit tragedy for attention and financial gain, complicating the political discourse.
- Cultural Shifts: There is an emerging consensus across political lines regarding support for Israel due to changing perceptions of its government and practices, indicating a potential shift in American political sentiment.
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Closing Remarks The hosts conclude by encouraging listeners to remain vigilant of the narratives coming from right-wing influencers and to critically assess the information they consume. They remind their audience about their own content, inviting them to purchase their book and stay engaged with their messaging.
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*This summary captures the essential discussions and arguments made by the hosts in the episode while providing context for listeners unfamiliar with the ongoing political discourse.*
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04Okay, I think it's important for us on the left to know what's going on the right because they have a massive media structure. It's massive. And one of their stars is, of course, Candace Owens, who our producer who prepared this episode called her Klandis, which I thought was hilarious. And Candace Owens has this very right wing, rabid MAGA base. And she's been able to kind of pop off because she's a big trans hater. And she's had this theory about Emmanuel Macron, the French president, that his wife is trans. And she gets millions and millions and millions of views. And she's been conducting an investigation into this.
0:46Well, then Charlie Kirk was murdered and Charlie Kirk was her friend. And now she's conducting an investigation into the murder of Charlie Kirk. And so let's just watch this clip right here to kind of set the soil of what we're going to take you through, what Candace is up to. Clandice. All right, play the clip. To add a little color to the story, I think that the people who did this in what we've learned about those women as I think they were probably who hired, people that did the hiring were probably trying to be funny. People that don't believe in spiritual forces but contacted witches who are not trying to be funny.
1:19That's the problem when people don't understand that this stuff is real, that you're saying to a witch, yeah, I'll pay for you. I'm going to reach out to you to pay for you to put a curse on Charlie. And that witch did that. And it brought, obviously you can see they were distressed by this. They consulted a Catholic priest who I assume would have immediately conducted an exorcism that probably should have done in the latin right but i feel like that's just something that people should know because until something happens to you spiritually you tend not to believe in these things like i said that's a part of this they very much know what religion they follow the numbers numerology it makes sense to them uh the people that are in control of this world be very cautious so she did this and also megan kelly did the whole clip about people putting curses on Charlie Kirk.
2:07They think this is real. They believe that this type of spiritual warfare is real, and they have been primed to believe this at a very early age. So you have to understand these kids are deeply indoctrinated and religiously abused from a very young age. They're told you're not good enough. You have to be a good little girl, good little boy. Only Jesus can save you. And so it's the cycle of worthlessness and then rescue and worthlessness and then rescue. And it repeats over and over and over. And also they're told that there are demons and angels fighting around them all the time. And you hear this type of language expressed in the current administration when they talk about evil forces and good forces.
2:51They use this type of simple spiritual warfare type framing because it hits really hard in the base because they've been very primed for this. And I grew up in a Bible Belt state. And I can tell you with certainty that people believe in this type of magical thinking. They think it is very real. They believe in spiritual warfare and they're constantly on a shame, feel worthless, get rescued cycle all day, every day, multiple times a day. And so they find themselves where people speak their language and say crazy things. And then next up, she reveals on her Insta stories, she goes on a rant about the alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, put this up.
3:34I want to break this news immediately because it feels important. And I think if I don't break it immediately, something bad might happen. I hope I have earned the trust enough of the people to believe me when I say that I have verified this information, but cannot reveal the source. Tyler Robinson is not suicidal. The entire narrative that was placed in the media about him having been suicidal is completely fictional, as are many other aspects of what we have been told. His father having, quote, turned him in after a confession is also complete fiction. To the contrary, Tyler Robinson maintains his innocence and has never even been to the UVU campus.
4:13There are absolutely zero photos or video that the campus can produce to the contrary, which is why they have produced nothing other than a blurry image, which Tyler's family knows is not him. Tyler has never once expressed a suicidal thought. I want to make that clear. The federal government is lying about absolutely everything other than the fact that it is his gun. Not that we needed further substantiation, but Tyler Robinson did not author those discord messages. I would like to again stress that he has never been to UVU campus, but, and I need to confirm this later, I believe he was around the campus on that day.
4:54I will have more on this later, but I wanted to immediately publish that the Tyler Robinson suicide narrative plus the, quote, dad that did the right thing after realizing his son was guilty is a federal concoction. So as you can see, there's this whole vacuum on the right, and it used to be filled with like QAnon stuff, like Hunter Biden stuff and Joe Biden and Joe Biden's really dead. And JFK Jr. is running the country, all this crazy shit. And the thing is, you guys, these videos get millions and millions of views. Now, I want to go on the record and say I think Candace Owens is a grifter and she's grifting off of the death of her alleged very good friend, Charlie Kirk.
5:43At the same time, I don't trust anything coming out of Kash Patel's FBI. If they had some smoking gun that Tyler Robinson was a radicalized leftist that had a penchant for trans people, it would be all over the place. And Pumps, you read something. There's a gag order on the case. Yes, the DOJ asked for a gag order so that no one involved in the case, lawyers, witnesses can speak out, which I might remind everybody when Donald Trump was going through his many trials and threatening judges that he was furious about the gag order. But his Justice Department doesn't want to talk about any of this stuff.
6:24And I think we all can deduce why. And I hate to give Candace any credit, but she's right. Nobody can believe any of this bullshit because none of it seems true. Did the judge grant the gag order? Yes, the judge has granted it. Okay, so I just think that's interesting because usually in a case like this, you hear from the alleged criminal that from their lawyer, especially in a high profile case like this. So I think that's rather interesting. And I just want to emphasize here, Candace Owens is a grifter and she's conducting her own investigation and she is trying to exploit her friend's murder.
7:01The only thing I agree with her on is that we cannot trust cash. Right. That's it. That's that's where I completely separate from her. But she has a bunch of splintering theories about who did this. And here's one where she thinks that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. And I want to remind everybody bizarrely, Benjamin Netanyahu has denied killing Charlie Kirk six times. Six times. I've denied killing Charlie Kirk zero times. China has denied killing Charlie Kirk zero times, as is France, Great Britain, Spain, Germany, Italy. You catch my drift. So that shit's weird. And so then it plays into this whole right wing base that is really primed to traffic and conspiracy theories because they can't critically think.
7:51And so they just get fed this conspiracy theory entertainment. More than one event, but he had essentially what was staged, an intervention was staged by Bill Ackman. Because Charlie's thoughts, Charlie's rational thoughts about Israel were a no-no. This is not the route that you should be going on. And Charlie was surrounded by his friends, his quote-unquote friends. Bill Ackman was very upset. and threats were made. Okay, so Bill Ackman is this billionaire Trump thumper, and he's the guy who writes like novels on Twitter. And apparently there was this like meeting at the Hamptons. But I will say that there is something, Israel has a problem both on the far left and the far right, because I think Americans in general, whether they're on the right or on the left, are tired of us funding a genocide.
8:50and we see all of our taxpayer money going over there. And here's the thing about Benjamin Netanyahu. He is a crook before he was a war criminal. He has been in and out of power for the last 30-something years, like ever since I graduated from high school. He served 17 years total as prime minister. And something really important to realize about Benjamin Netanyahu is how manipulative he is. He sent carfuls, and this isn't conspiracy, This is confirmed by reporting by Israeli journalists, multiple Israeli journalists, and published by very esteemed publications. Benjamin Netanyahu paid millions of dollars, and he sent suitcases full of cash from Israel to Gaza to fund Hamas to keep them in power, because he knew that he could stay in power longer if he was fighting them than fighting a more centrist Palestinian-style government.
9:48So Israel has even funded Hamas. And so as the Americans on the left and on the right, the center doesn't really stay as locked into the news cycle. as they start to discover more and more about just how awful Benjamin Netanyahu is. And then the people in his cabinet are just nauseating, like complete freaks that talk about ethnic cleansing. They talk about developing Gaza. And so you can see how the soil is primed for conspiracies like this to completely pop up. Well, and you also have Netanyahu, who is, while denying, he talks about how Charlie Kirk loved Israel. And that was one of the things that he was at odds with all these other people.
10:40I think it's just fucking weird and needy is like how like Netanyahu wants everybody to love Israel and you don't have to love Israel. Like why do two women that are atheists that live in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, why do we have to love Israel? You know, like, why can't we just, you know, like there's this pressure, this propaganda that's been put on American people that we are supposed to love Israel. And it's all propaganda. I mean, it, I think it's a really weird thing when you step back and think about it, that we're all supposed to love Israel. And he's going on this campaign, buying all of these TikTok influencers to try to get everybody to love Israel.
11:25And it's like, bitch, please, we have so many goddamn problems. Right. Why is America supposed to fund all this when they have free healthcare, free college? Right. I mean, you know, it's just bananas, But here's the deal. He needs America to give him the money. And he's got his buddy Donald Trump by the horse collar. He'll do whatever the fuck he wants. Yeah. OK. And then last here is Candace and she has a message for conservatives gunning to replace Charlie Kirk. I want to say this. It's important because I am angry. I will obviously I pray to move on from this phase, but it's a fire in my belly right now.
12:03To those of you who think that you are going to replace Charlie Kirk, kings are born. You don't just get to depose and tell us that we're going to follow this individual. OK, I'm one of the masons of Turning Point USA. You put a shill in Charlie Kirk's chair, in Charlie Kirk's company, and you try to tell us to follow that individual. I will be an enemy of you. I don't there will there will be nothing that can stop me okay and I want you guys to say this is not a threat this is a promise there will be these people are so crazy that can stop me I will release every single text message so to those of you who are trying that I'm seeing the messages I am telling you to back off right now you guys this is so psychotic I mean it's just unbelievable how psycho these people are, how emotionally stunted they are, how immature they are.
13:04I mean, just, I mean, we started the thing with her talking about spiritual warfare and witches and all this shit. And now she's moved on to, you know, she's going to kick ass and take names. And for anybody that fills Charlie Kirk's chair and all this, I mean, like, are, are all of these people that listen to all this right-wing media, are they that weak that they have to have some leader on the internet guide them through life? I think the answer to that appears to be yes. But here's the thing, which by the way, we support. If you feel weak and need to listen to a podcast, just make it ours.
13:38That way you can buy our book too. So anyway, just in wrapping that up, in summary, here's what I think is really interesting that will manifest if we get to the next election. New York Times had a report that came out, some polling that came out. Israel's polling really, really low in the United States right now, which what a relief considering we've all seen the images from Gaza. At the same time, we have Benjamin Netanyahu hiring all of these American influencers to put out all this pro-Zionist shit and probably to suppress any sort of real imagery coming out of the horrific genocide of war crimes in Gaza.
14:17And so he's a propagandist. He's a fascist. He's basically a dictator, Benjamin Netanyahu. And I think he's facing like criminal charges for bribery and stuff in Israel. And he keeps getting all of that delayed. So he found another dipshit criminal propagandist in Donald Trump. And I think it's a very dangerous time. So I don't know. I don't know how to articulate this other than to say. There is a consensus building on the right and on the left that Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu are not our friends, that they are using us for our money. There's a consensus building for that. And at the same time, if the Democrats were smart messengers, they could say, look at who else does the same thing.
15:05Kang is doing this. He is using you rural Americans for your money. And we all know he's robbing the piggy bank and his friends are probably robbing the piggy bank and he's made billions of dollars in just nine months. But the messaging on the left is so beholden to Israel that they can't speak out with clarity about it because they're so scared of being called an anti-Semite. When the anti-Semites like Candace Owens giving a shit about Palestinian children, but not giving a shit about gay kids in America, it tells you all you need to know. She cherry picks for money and for cliques, which human rights she supports, because none of us are free until all of us are free.
15:48And so a really good indicator of somebody who really walks the walk and talks the talk is they leave no one behind. And on the right, they leave a lot of people behind. So it's just a weird thing. And then on top of all that, Candace is black with all these white racist followers. It's just right wing is weird. It's crazy. And she's a Mason on the Charlie Kirk Foundation that he said straight up that black women are not as smart as everybody else. Great point. It's weird. It's weird. It's really weird. All right. We just, we want to keep our eyes on what's going on with the grifters on the right, because I think it's, they have this huge media, huge media enterprise that gets millions and millions and millions of views and people just eat that shit up.
16:34So I think it's from time to time we need to just do a little check-in. It's pretty entertaining. So what's going on with the right-wing media. All right. That's all we have by our book. We'll see you later.
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