Trump Losing All Control As WH Starts a Civil War; Elon Makes Stunning Admission

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1:03Molly Jong-Fast:All right, joining me today in studio on IHIP News is political commentator and host of the Fast Politics podcast, Molly Jong Fast. How are you today? I'm good. How are you? Very well. I would like to talk to you about some observations that I have had. Yes. With these MAGA men. Yes. It always seems like there is some sort of homosocial hanging out that they prefer. And they also prefer these Photoshopped homoerotic photographs of Donald Trump. Pop this up. So Donald Trump posted this picture. And as you can see - Let the record show my face is sort of dismayed. You can see the men with the pom-poms.

1:45Molly Jong-Fast:Yeah. Donald Trump is Photoshopped in some little American flag panties. Yeah. And he's got - They're meant to be shorts, but I don't want to - I think they're shorts. I mean, they certainly... They remind me of Big Titty Brian's pink panties that he had on. I feel... Wait, who's Big Titty Brian? Well, you know Big Titty Brian, the wife, the husband of Christy. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I think he prefers to be called Crystal, which I will honor that. Yeah. Anyway, the men with pom-poms, and Trump actually posted this a couple of years ago. Oh, this is not new. Yeah, people found it and then are recirculating it.

2:23Molly Jong-Fast:Oh, okay. Because he recently had that football player over at Summer Alley. Right, and he was very. So here's what I would say about this. I wonder when this is from. I wonder if we could find the provenance of this insane photograph. It's not a photograph. It's some kind of AI. AI, yeah. Though maybe it's pre. Is it pre-AI or is it early AI? He posted it on social. Okay, a couple years ago. Yeah, so it's AI. We're photoshopped. It's killing our climate so that he can wear really short shorts. Look, he describes people, men, women. We've heard him describe women too this way in a very over-sexualized way.

3:13Yeah.

3:14Molly Jong-Fast:Yeah. He does it a lot. He had that football player at a rally, and he was talking about how attractive he was and talked about his thighs. Yeah. it's just an observation from all of this world when, especially when you dive into Fox news and Jesse waters talks about what it's like to be a man and what real men do and real men don't do. So I think it's just an interesting, it's very ironic to be a party that is so focused on your anxieties about masculinity. You're, I mean, a great example is Tellarico. Tellarico, the sort of big voices in MAGA have spent the last couple weeks just railing against Tellarico.

3:57He's too thin. He doesn't eat barbecue. They have a number of complaints about him. And then they were like, where is this girlfriend? And then the girlfriend turns out to be incredibly beautiful. And also to have come from a venerable Texas family, but she is a vegan, which I guess is, I don't know. You know, the thing about these kind of over sexualized tropes of masculinity is that they are in some ways like a shorthand for the anxiety that this crew faces about change. You know, they are they are worried about changing gender roles. Right. They're worried about women becoming full members of society.

4:40And so, so much of what you see with this kind of regressive way of looking at the world is an anxiety against progress, right? It's a kind of, you know, there's an incredible book by Susan Faludi called Backlash. And it's all about how when women get progress or LGBTQ people get progress, there's an anxiety that causes a kind of reactionary politics. And that's what we're living through right now. We're living through another one of these backlashes. So this crew does a thing called trolling, and they use the trolling to try and, you know, examine, you know, try to do different things, which will ultimately, you know, become, you know, either very oppressive legislation or you know kind of over sexualized weirdness yeah and you

5:35Molly Jong-Fast:brought up talarico and i remember the controversy regarding him about six or seven months ago was that he followed only fan right accounts right so then he was too straight yes and then he advances and has a very good chance of beating this uh very uh scandal plagued paxton and then they try to feminize him. Right. And then they're talking about her being a vegan. But also I remember during the RNC, do you remember when Usha Vance spoke and she said that she was a vegan? Yeah, she's a vegan. Yeah. And nobody, you know, clapped at the RNC convention. I remember like, oh, well, that's interesting.

6:10Well, the thing about this Republican idea of masculinity and these Republican tropes of like, how to be a woman, how to be a man, is that they're very limiting, right? This is a country that is built on all different people from all different places. So Usha Vance is just religious and doesn't eat meat as part of her religion. You would think that a lot of these Trump people want Americans to be more religious.

6:39Molly Jong-Fast:Well, no, only a certain kind of religion, Molly. Not Hindu. That is not on the approved religious list. And this specific breed of Republicans. You know, there's only certain types of Christianity. You know, J.D. Vance's form of Catholicism, good. Right. Pope Leo, bad. Yeah. I mean, I have to say, if you're on the wrong side of the Pope, you might want to ask yourself, like, perhaps I'm not doing this right. Right. That's exactly right. Okay. Something else is very, very interesting is happening. So, you know, this guy named, I think his name is Stephen Chung. Yeah. That works. He does the White House communications, I believe.

7:17Molly Jong-Fast:Well, he dressed little Marco up in the same ensemble that Nicolas Maduro was in, the little Nike jumpsuit. And he dressed little Marco up and propped him up for a photo shoot on Air Force One and posted it. I thought it looked ridiculous and was somewhat humiliating. So now they have made this thirst trap video that they've just posted on the white house instagram account i cannot play the song along with it because youtube would pull it but it is a kanye west song so think about the inferences there with it you know a confessed nazi kanye i don't know if he's retracted that or not but nonetheless it's a kanye west song and here is a video they've made of marco rubio so for those of you listening it starts with marco rubio and then it goes to and i think it might be is it kylie said all i do is win win win Oh, stronger.

8:13Molly Jong-Fast:That won't kill me. So it's Marco Rubio kind of thirst trapping around. And it's interesting. I don't think Marco Rubio is uber attractive. I don't think he's uber unattractive. But when you see this video with the actual music playing, it's just really interesting coming out of a White House. Well, here's what I would say. Marco Rubio is the... If you are a White House that is terrified about midterms. And remember, you should be terrified about midterms because this president has done a lot of sketchy stuff and he could very likely get impeached any which way. And, you know, we're already seeing this Congress trying to check his powers.

8:56So if you're worried about trying to look good, which this White House has a lot of problems, right? If you look at the polls, they are cratering in every, you know, and they're underwater with Latino voters and young voters and women voters and non-college educated whites. And, you know, if you don't see those results from the Iowa primaries with a Donald Trump endorsed candidate losing a primary in Iowa, like that's, there's writing on the wall here that farmers are mad too. And we have this new, this parasite in Texas, this ringworm parasite. Yes, screwworm. Screwworm, which is going to be a big fucking problem.

9:36So you have a White House that sees that it is in the middle of a lot of problems. So if you are trying to sort of chart a future for yourself, you certainly would rather have Marco out there than J.D. Vance. Because my man J.D. Vance has negative charisma. And so I do think that the Marco, you know, he's good looking. He doesn't, I think, or relatively speaking, he's good looking. He seems young, which Donald Trump does not seem young. Right. And I think that if you're Stephen Chung, like you want as much Marco content as possible. Now, I think the problem for this crew is that you don't want to remind people that you've been doing these foreign wars because Donald Trump ran expressly on saying he was going to end foreign wars.

10:28And the foreign wars are the reason that gas is five bucks a gallon. So if it were me, I would be trying to stay away from that.

10:37Molly Jong-Fast:So let's dive into that a little bit because I started calling a couple months ago to the listener. I kept saying, Trump is going to rat fuck J.D. Vance. he's going to write and he has been ratfucking him he has absolutely he sent him to uh the erica kirk thing and erica kirk notion he sent him to hungary he sent him to pakistan he made him the fraud man he went to maine maine he made him the fraud czar i mean with the most fraudulent president in history that's ironic and then is this a little bit because you know one thing trump is is a petty the old queen. He loves to rap fuck. He loves the humiliation ritual.

11:13Molly Jong-Fast:Is some of this just really rubbing it in JD's face? I'm saying, look, these guys bought you. I didn't want you. Peter Thiel bought you and he sent you here. And Peter Thiel's always packed, already packed his toys up and hightailed it as most Nazis do to Argentina. And so I'm going to keep rubbing this in your face. Don't you think Trump's petty enough to keep rubbing this in JD's face a little bit? So I think Trump does not want to have the successor because he does not want to ever leave. And so I think what J.D. Vance is, what's happening to J.D. Vance is similar to probably what's happening to the Trump kids with the family business, which is J.D.

11:53is going to run against Marco until the last possible second, is my guess. and Donald Trump will be so, because he doesn't want to give away his power. The minute he picks a successor, he is the lamest of lame ducks. So I think we'll just watch this go on and on and on. But I also think for sure, the guy loves it. We see that he didn't go to Junior's wedding. Yes. My man, he knew that would be a news cycle or many news cycles. It's like, it's like, you just go to the wedding, right? It's your kid, you go, even if you're busy and want to play golf. So I think that this is sort of how, this is sort of how it is.

12:38And it's, and I think, I mean, my guess is because he's a narcissist that it's about winning favor and playing people against each other to see who can win his favor the best. And I think that's worked for him.

12:51Molly Jong-Fast:Do you think at some point he, I mean, he didn't go to his son's wedding. He's rat-fucking J.D. Vance. I don't think he has it in him to be big enough to be like, Marco, you have been a great Secretary of State and all these other jobs they've thrown at him, and you are the heir apparent to the MAGA. I just don't think he has that. I think at some point, he'll start rat-fucking Marco. I mean, I think what will happen is, look, let's see where these polls go because at this moment he is polling so poorly i mean 38 37 36 i mean these polls are unprecedented the democratic generic is um eight nine ten i mean crazy bigger than 2018.

13:38my guess is that um he's gonna have if gas gets right it looks like gas may get more expensive because of the sort of reserve, the prudent reserve of gas, which is sort of, you know, we're almost done with. So you and you've got the worms and you've got the beef and you've got inflation. And we're heading into summer. So he may not be in a position to where he where the I mean, especially if you see Republicans and they keep checking their his power, they keep going against him. And what happens with power is that it starts getting chipped away. So he may not be in a position to name an heir apparent.

14:20Molly Jong-Fast:Right. And I think at some point, because he always talks about his genes, you know, I think at some point if he were to leave it to somebody, I think it would probably be his favorite child, Ivanka, who's quite frankly stepped in it big time lately with this island. You know, I mean, can you imagine? i don't know that i'm not completely read it in the ivanka island okay so there's this island off the coast of albania and you know ivanka she talks very seriously oh i saw this stoicism and she says we were jumping off my friend's boat and we swam to this island and we hiked to the top of the island barefoot right it just it it left something inside of us so this is a large-scale development and it's going to be a way of life so we were talking about it here i was talking about it with the producers in Albania, they've been on a four or five day tear protesting Jared and Ivanka Trump, I mean, or Kushner and what great people to hate, what great people to protest against, right?

15:22Molly Jong-Fast:So all of a sudden, after these protests are going on, that's when both Jared and Ivanka put out, you know, this new development they're working on. Bizarrely, this is an old Soviet an island with bunkers all under it. So we have this recurring theme, Molly, billionaires in bunkers, Trump in his ballroom, which is going to have a bunker, research center, hospital, drones, an iron dome, all this shit, right? Strippers. So anyway, I think that they got busted with their, their island. And now they're trying to run interference, but it's blowing up Because think about now all the memes all over the internet are that Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Kushner are the new Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell on their island.

16:11Molly Jong-Fast:Oh. Because this is all, all of the people that he has assembled around him are Epstein affiliates. So for sure. And there are certainly people in the admin who figure prominently in the files, including from the first administration, the guy who gave the sweetheart deal, Alex Acosta, who we still have not seen testimony from, and I would really like to see it. You have to remember also that Donald Trump has been in a sort of war against Europe. And so with all that Greenland stuff is not just about trolling. It's also about trying to end NATO and a real kind of aggressive posture towards the Europeans.

16:53So as much as Ivanka and Jared are being protested in Albania, part of that is a reaction to really the Europeans are just absolutely done with Trump and also us. Yeah, I don't blame them. Yeah. And you have to remember, like the Straits are making gas more expensive here, but they're making gas more expensive all over the world. And the case for why America did it is what? Yeah, is what that Donald Trump got tricked by Netanyahu. That's what Marco Rubio said. Like, think about that. Like, that is an insane case study. And if you are a farmer in China, or you are, I mean, just think about the reverberations for America for a minute.

17:42Molly Jong-Fast:Yeah, it's fascinating that Marco Rubio put that out, that it was at the behest of Benjamin Netanyahu. At the exact same time, Benjamin Netanyahu tweets, my 40 year long dream is finally coming true because Donald Trump is like the make a wish president for all of the nefarious actors in the world. Yeah. You know, they use him to get whatever crazy bat shit wish they had. Donald Trump will help them realize it because the file on him psychologically is this thick. It is flatter him. And they're also just, yeah, they're just rolling him. Like at every point, Donald Trump is getting rolled. He's getting rolled by Putin.

18:24He's getting rolled by this one. He's getting rolled by that one. And so there's no, there's really no possible way that anything, I mean, this is the problem with the negotiations in Iran right now. who is doing this negotiation? Wyckoff? Jared? Like, you have to, negotiation is hard and these guys have nukes. The whole idea is we're going to have to probably do another Obama nuclear deal, you know, just like Donald Trump recreated NAFTA. This is what's happening here. And so, but you need someone who actually knows how to do stuff, doing things in the government. I mean, the reason Marco has five jobs is because Marco's like, knows how to do stuff versus, you know, everyone else in this administration.

19:11Molly Jong-Fast:All right. So there's something that a lot of what we would call corporate Dems or centrist Dems say that the Democrats need to quit talking about culture wars. Can we talk about... Oh, I hope we're going to this. Because this, I am literally, this is the one thing I'm obsessed with. Okay. So there's always this notion, Democrats talk about culture wars. And I'm like, from my vantage point, the people that talk about culture wars shit all the time are the people who are freaking the fuck out that it is pride month and people who are losing their minds who talk about trans issues all the time so we have these posters right here molly at the gop leadership conference and one of them says republicans are cutting your taxes and has a big piggy bank with a big you know tax refund and the next one says democrats were transing the mice with your 8.2 million of your tax dollars.

20:07Molly Jong-Fast:Go off. I cannot, I am obsessed with this. Okay. First of all, when I saw that, so this comes from Doge and this comes from somebody in, in Elon Musk's stable used AI to look through all of these, uh, government, the NIH grants. And in it, he found transgenic mice. Transgenic mice, not trans mice. Transgenic mice are the kind of mice you use for science experiments. So if you have a cancer vaccine, you put it on a transgenic mice, you eject the mice with it, and you see if it works. You don't do that with the person yet because we're trying not to kill too many people. So we do it with the mice.

20:53They're transgenic mice. and you buy them, there are people who sell them and you buy them for science experiments. They are not trans. This has nothing to do with being trans. It has everything to do with being a scientific mouse. Now I saw this and thought, no, this is so stupid. This can't possibly be real. Okay. And I thought, well, they'll figure it out and they'll correct it because these people are not complete and utter morons. Okay. Well, here's what happened. They didn't, they didn't do that. Here's what they did. They made it a poster. Nobody, they fucking, so no - Look at what the mouse is holding.

21:32My pronouns - My pronouns are they, them. But I want to point out, and please cut this into a clip because this is the one thing I can, I would like to put this on my tombstone. The mice are not trans. So this means that four or five members of Congress and their staffers thought that these mice were trans mice. They blew it up for a poster. They had a press conference in front of a trans mess. The mice are not trans. They're just mice used for science experiments. How, like, when I saw this, I got so upset because I thought, these people are so stupid. And we're not supposed to say they're stupid.

22:15Like, that's the thing we're not supposed to say. Oh, I say it every day. But they are not trans mice. They're just mice. They're mice for science.

22:23Molly Jong-Fast:I'm gonna say they are stupid. I just hope they're being dishonest and not being stupid and not that they don't understand. I mean, it just has starts with a T. Like it's, they're not trans mice. I will take this to my grave. They're not, the mice are not gay. They're not trans, they're just mice and you need them. I want your tombstone to say, Molly Chong Fass, mouse advocate. I mean, you can't do science if you don't understand what words mean. Like, this is a fundamental, and this is really great. I mean, this is why we're so cooked when it comes to AI. It's like, when I Googled myself the other day in AI, it showed, it had me confused with someone else, and it had my husband as dead.

23:11And I was like, I'm not going to tell him, because I think he'll be really upset by the idea that he's dead. But the point of this is like, just because it starts with the first T-R-A-N does not mean they are gay or trans or anything. They're just fucking mice.

23:31Molly Jong-Fast:I mean, she has had it. I have had it. Here's the thing. I've had it with the mice. that i want to explain that from living in it from living in a red state yes once they get on something like this it is like catnip for them to think that the liberals and for republicans they don't know the difference between a liberal a center-left democrat a progressive or leftist they're all libs understands what mice what you use mice for in scientific experiments they don't care. These are the people that don't get vaccinated. Do you know what I mean? So this is like catnip for them. And they will, they believe I can't do how many people in Oklahoma I had that said, tell you what my friends, cousins, daughter said they had litter boxes in the bathroom.

24:23Molly Jong-Fast:And, and I said, so you're telling me that high school students are walking into bathrooms dressed as cats, using their hands like paws and taking a shit. Not one person has photographed it when all these kids do her on snapchat 24 7. well i well that's just what she said and people still believe it they still believe that furries are taking shits and litter boxes in u.s high schools because they want to right they want to believe that that the democratic party is investing in saving the imaginary trans mice the claim is that 2.8 million in government funds were spent on transing mice. But what it is, is it's$2.8 billion in mice that you use for science, million, not billion, sorry,$2.8, that would be a ballroom,$2.8 million in government funds.

25:17They're spent on mice. You buy the mice, you shoot them up with the, you know, whatever, the vaccine, make sure it doesn't kill the humans before you give it to the humans. They're used in medical research okay so would you want your i mean maybe we just don't want to do medical research anymore that is very possible we do have rfk in charge of hss but um hhs but it just it absolutely

25:43Molly Jong-Fast:infuriates me and here's here's how i want to respond to these people the facebook doctors who do their own research i think what we should do is every hospital hospital, we have a Facebook tent in the parking lot. And if you have ever posted anti-science, anti-doctor, anti-vax bullshit, when you go to the hospital, you can go there, but you have to go to the Facebook tent and talk to Debbie that you graduated from high school with and you can't go talk to the real doctors. I know, but it's crazy. Okay. I want to, a lot of this stuff is exacerbated by Elon Musk, who has this big, big platform.