Trump Majorly F**ked After FBI Leaks The Evidence and MAGA Losing Major Elections

0:04I am joined today by Jack Cocciarella. He is a progressive political commentator. He's been in a really bad mood because of all of the impending with Donald Trump and all of the morons surrounding him. So he texted me and I said, come on, let's talk. Let's have a cathartic talking session. So viewer and listener join Jack Cocciarella and me and just ripping it up. Jack, how are you today? Do you feel better already? I feel better already knowing that we're just going to talk some shit. It's just all in the shoulders, and it's just like I feel it. It's just I've had enough. I can't even enjoy curling at the Olympics without Kash Patel busting down the door, humiliating the entire nation, the tiny little goober that he is.

0:47I just want a moment of peace. I don't know where we're going to find it, but maybe it's right now. I don't know. I'm hoping. I've been hoping all week that we were going to find it in this video. Well, okay. First, I'm going to start with bad news. All right. The bad news is that NPR has released the following today. Aaron Blake posts, the Justice Department has withheld some Epstein files related to allegations that President Trump sexually abused a minor in NPR investigation fines. So you brought up Kash Patel and he was there with the hockey team. And one of the hockey team players while he was celebrating was with cash patel cash patel who has seen the epstein files made a whole podcasting career that he was going to release the epstein files and hold the pedophiles accountable um is celebrating with all of these people and then they're calling and facetiming their daughters and i just this sort of moral rot that is existing in america right now is really pissing me off it's it's disgusting not just on like the the cover-up that's happening at the government level.

1:55But then you also think about the media level of it all, because it's two parts of the game, right? It is Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, Todd Blanche. They're hiding files, deleting files, telling us files don't exist. But then they're also sending their surrogates out. And nothing has upset me more than when I see members of the mainstream press say, oh, well, we have to make it clear that any given billionaire or Elon Musk, we have to stress as much as possible that just because they're in the files doesn't mean they're implicated, doesn't mean they committed crimes. They're billionaires. Do we think they got all that money by following the law?

2:31And it's what Kash Patel is doing as well, trying to go out, be a celebrity because he's so insecure. And that's what everyone in this administration really is. They're just like insecure little, and I'm going to steal your word, but they're insecure little titty babies, all of them. It's why they're covered in makeup and, you know, Kristi Noem's bad, whatever she's got going on. But Kash Patel is trying to do the PR work for the Epstein files. Oh, we don't even need to pay attention to it. It's all done because I'm partying with Team USA. It's just despicable to watch. It's just so infuriating.

3:01It's really disgusting. I think when I saw Howard Lutnik email Epstein and say, hey, we're going to swing by on our yacht. And I'm like, okay, if you're rich enough to have a yacht, you fuck you money. You would tell a convicted pedophile, you, I'm not having lunch at your island. Instead, he's like, hey, I'm swinging by your island and here's my kids ages that are happening. Fucking crazy. Crazy. It's nuts. It's nuts. And then Mark Zuckerberg is in the files. Bill Gates is in the files. Elon Musk is pathetic. The most pathetic whining, pick me, I want to be a cool kid in the files. My thing about Mark Zuckerberg is this.

3:41This guy, he goes on, I think it's Joe Rogan. And he says, you know, I've just felt like the last four years that I've been neutered in the work. And I'm like, okay, dude, if an 82 year old Joe Biden made you feel neutered, there isn't a bottle of Viagra. It's not going to do it. It can get that thing up. It's like all of these guys, I don't know what it is that they decide that like something, and this is like a fascination of the right as well. It's always like the meme of someone like sitting in like shallow water. It's like one foot deep. And like, they're just like trying to submerge themselves in it, pretending that they're being oppressed.

4:17Mark Zuckerberg has an infinite amount of money that he spends on getting the perfect muck beans to feed his cattle on his singular Hawaiian island. You can live the life that you want. There is nobody holding you down. And if you have to self-actualize through language, which is just blatantly antisocial and weird, if you want to say a bunch of slurs, it is not Joe Biden coming to get people upset about to get people upset about it. It is funny that they both in their minds have this thing where Joe Biden was falling apart, can't walk straight, but also the puppet master controlling our culture.

4:53They have both of these things playing out at once. They're just whiners and they're insecure and they'll never get over the fact that they were stuffed in lockers and people didn't like them and that people don't like them. This is ultimately what it comes down to. They're just not popular. Like nobody wants to be around these guys unless I guess if you're a pedophile and then they really want to, they really want to kick it with them. All right. Speaking of popular, let's talk about the mayor Zoran Mamdani. He is the highest ranking politician favorability wise in the United States right now.

5:24And he governs and he markets his governing. And there were these memes that came out that was like New York got 16 inches and it just said 16 inches and it had a picture of Mamdani. if you don't think that i have that on my phone ready to pull up show us i haven't been so here we go we got our we have 16 inches yes i love it i'm not going to say that has been shared uh but we're just gonna we're gonna leave it there we're just gonna say we have it and it's fine okay so he's been like plowing and he's been shoveling 16 inches i would hope so yeah

6:04Someone's got to. My gay triads will love that. So he's been doing all the stuff. And he also said, Hey, if you guys want extra money, you can come and you get paid$30 an hour to shovel. Right wing had a meltdown about that, that he's offering, you know, extra work for people. So on the one hand, like you say, they're pissed off that people aren't working. And then when somebody offers them work, then they have a stage five meltdown. But Andrew Cuomo particularly lost his mind yesterday on Twitter because there was a big snowball fight in Washington Square Park. And the cops showed up to break up the snowball fight.

6:41And then people start throwing snowballs at the cops, which all of the people that are totally fine with cops getting beaten with clubs and fire hydrants and flagpoles and taking a shit in the Capitol and then getting pardon for it. They're fine with that. But the snowball is stage five meltdown. So Andrew Cuomo tweets the following, and I want us to talk about this. This is disgraceful, but with a mayor who has a history of calling the police racist, evil, wicked, and corrupt, he set the tone. Words have consequences. We are seeing that in growing disrespect for law enforcement, just as we've seen it in the rise in antisemitism, which I don't know why he's throwing that in there.

7:21Real leaders understand that. The mayor does not. How we go from snowballs to anti-Semitism is the exact psychosis that is going on where you have like corporate dims that find alliances with hardcore right-wingers. And Andrew Cuomo, I mean, when I read that tweet, I was like, bitter party of one, your table's now available. I mean, he just looks so unhinged. Isn't he in the Hamptons? Can he just like enjoy it? Like, do we need to hear from him? And I love that like the mom, Don, just the historic, like an incredible success. Like every time you look at what's happening in New York, I'm sad that I'm not still living there.

8:02But you just seen like right wingers try to get upset or pick it apart by being stupid. Like one, it's a snowball fight. Like there's snowballs and it's snow and everyone was having fun. But you brought up the shoveling thing. Did you see the same radical brain-broken Zionist lady who stuffed an Israeli flag into Spike Lee's mailbox also go and be like, I'm going to try to get a job as a shoveler? And she's trying to pretend like it's this process that's broken and it's all, oh, it's in flames because Zoran and oh no. And I think the right tries to pick apart government programs or try to undermine them in the public space by just going and being stupid.

8:43I don't know if you've seen this video, but she's like, oh, so I just come and I shovel? And they're like, yeah. And she's like, so I just get to shovel? And they're like, yeah, but that's not the right shovel. And she's like, oh, and then they told me my shovel wasn't right. And so they gave me a different shovel. That seems weird. I'm like, no, it seems like a pretty well put together program to make sure those strengths are safe. They just like blowing things out. It's like the Nick Shirley thing. And that kid, he's got some stuff. I'm going to put it politely, but he's got some fucking stuff.

9:14All these people do. That is their response to government programs working. It's like, oh, so people just get social security checks? Yeah, yes, that is how it works. It's almost like government can work when we want it to. I just fucking, I can't, I can't do it. Well, I remember during, I think Obama was running against John McCain. And I remember there was a rally and, you know, and Obama was talking about Medicare and healthcare. That was his big thing. And there was a sign that said, keep the government off my Medicare, you know? And so it's just, these people believe in nothing. They're soulless.

9:50But there's a guy in New York yesterday that the local news was interviewing and the discipline of this guy on message. So he's in the bomb cyclone, right? And I don't know if the... I want our viewer to watch how the reporter, she keeps pulling the microphone away from him. But the match that Mom Donnie has ignited to move the base of the Democratic Party more towards helping more of us, working class people, taxing the rich, is really getting a lot of momentum. You guys watch this clip.

10:29Jack Cocciarella:There's still people out in doorways looking for shelter. And I think a lot of people think this is why we shouldn't allow hedge funds to own residential property. And so what we were talking about earlier, too, is a little bit of the nostalgia aspect, right? How this feels kind of like back in the 90s when we were growing up. Yeah, like you were saying, yeah, it was much, much more snow, colder winters. And again, private equity didn't own so much of the housing. I love that guy. Can you primary Chuck Schumer? Oh, my God. I need to talk to you about the establishment Democrats, Chuckles and Hakeem.

11:08I just I can't take it. I really cannot take it for one more second of one more day. I can't hardly take it because they are supposed to be in charge of the resistance and their fascist collaborators, both of them. Well, we've been having this kind of – it's been like a, what, two-week conversation since the clip with you and Hassan talking about Gavin Newsom and then the whole conversation about harm reduction. And sometimes you just got to vote for the person in the center. You just got to show up and vote for Democrats. And it's interesting to have a conversation about harm reduction at the same time as Jeffries and Schumer are doing like the waited out bit.

11:44They're just like, OK, well, we'll wait it out until the midterms and then we'll wait it out into the presidential election. And then when we have Democrats, we can start doing things to maybe kind of protect people a little bit and means test our child tax kind of credit, but not really. And you fucking figure it out from there. We don't really care. We're going to keep the status quo. it's just weird to have the harm reduction conversation when they're saying, let's be polite during the state of the union this time next year, maybe we can do something, right? If you want to be the, like, if you want to be the, oh, at least we're better, you need to do something.

12:19And there's been nothing. And I am going to, I'm going to be on the Hill today doing, doing just like, you know, rapid response with, with members of Congress who are going to stop by after I do a little live stream of the speech and after and just, I'm just like, I'm, I don't really know what to say or ask of anyone who doesn't already who hasn't already proved that they actually care. Like, am I supposed to be pushing you to do your job? I don't know if you saw the clip of Jared Moskowitz talking about how, you know, he wished he'd told his younger self to go to Wall Street and like do coke.

12:49It's like, dude, you, you can leave, you don't have to be there. There are lots of people who want that job. You don't have to be there. It feels like so many of them are both so self-entitled, but also being held against their will somehow. It's like, well, you don't have to be there. There are lots of people who will happily fill your seat and do a much better job. They will be younger, and they will be progressive, and they will care, and they will be able to communicate. You do not need to stay. But it does just feel weird to be having this conversation when we're in a moment in which you think that there should be some organization of a response, and there's just not.

13:29I'm glad you brought this whole thing up because I come from a state where for 50 years I lived in Oklahoma City. And I've seen what Republican supermajorities do for MAGA. And it's brutal. It's brutal. The last time we had a Democratic governor in Oklahoma, education was 17th. And then since then, we've had a couple of decades of MAGA super majorities, Republican super majorities that even predate Trump. And now education is 50 years, abortion ban. It's just, it's awful. And so I really struggle with this awakening that I've had. I've had a real awakening since Kamala lost that I bought into a lot of the democratic establishment propaganda.

14:18And I was a good foot soldier in that. And I felt like I couldn't criticize Democrats because I think my thought of that was pretty arrogant, thinking that voters couldn't see that for themselves, that I had to be a part of the hoodwink to lie to voters. Yeah. And so, and my husband would always be like, oh, this person sucks. That person sucks. I fucking hate Joe Biden. He's not, you know, Merrick Garland is not doing a good job. I'd be like, don't criticize him. Don't let anyone know. We can't let people see what they're already seeing. I was that person. I was that person. Okay. And so I've had this real awakening and I'm still processing it, but my, where I am right now is this.

14:58Number one, establishment Democrats are failing us. Democrats that take corporate money, it's been revealed that Hakeem Jeffries, we know he takes APAC money. He's going to continue to take APAC money. And he's also taken money from Palantir. Chuck Schumer sucks. I mean, we can go into all of the reasons, but we can just say Chuck Schumer sucks and that just covers it as an umbrella. And so I really had this betrayal that I felt by the Democratic Party in taking advantage of my vote and my support and also treating the rest of the electorate in such a patronizing way in which I even participated.

15:34And so I'm all about like, we have to elect the most progressive candidates, period. Full stop. We have to really, really go hard in the paint for them. Now, when it comes to, if it ends up being some nauseating corporate Democrat that is the 2028 candidate and then everybody's like, don't talk about it two years in advance. Well, we're fucking podcasters. What else are we going to talk about? You people brought it up. We have to have shit to talk about. All right. And I'm never going to be a third party voter because I have seen how dangerous Republican supermajorities are. But I am 100 % in the progressive plank right now to call out establishment Dems, to have difficult conversations, to use my voice and my personal evolution to enlighten more people.

16:22And I think that's where I'm best at doing that. And I think my conversation with Hassan was helpful. I think that his answer was very eye-opening to me. and because he said don't you think they know that and he was like yeah they do know that and they're taking advantage of you what was your thought on all of that jack well i just not to not to flip the show he the host in me is kind of coming out but i listened to your conversation with uh with meddy and it was i loved that was a great hour i wish y 'all had done five but uh thank you you brought up the like of course the platform that you now have the huge platform well deservedly so that you have and you brought up like okay well we are going to push people who come on and it's something that I increasingly think about more is like what questions do we need to ask to push what don't they want you to ask like how do we shape how do we use our platform to shape even what they're thinking about when you're talking about your platform specifically though I know you don't care if Cory Booker never wants to come on and get humiliated again because like fuck off like we don't really care but how do you think about not necessarily like a balance but the success that you can have pushing people when it is that face-to-face and do they ever get too scared to come on?

17:35I know you're never going to stop being you, but how do you think we make sure as people in the independent media who these staffs and these members and these electeds and whoever maybe don't think that they have to give us the same time of day, how do we make sure that they're still coming back so we can hold their feet to the fire? Or do you think it's like, fuck it, we don't care if they come on, we're just going to talk about them anyways and the message is going to get to them, you either come on and hear it from us or you hear it in your comments. Is that kind of your approach? No, I think we publicly shame them.

18:03I think we invite them to come on and they say no. And then we invite them again. And then we start having a conversation with our audience, like, hey, Hakeem, my listeners are taxpaying Americans. A lot of them live in your district. They want me to ask you these questions. Are you a Democrat that believes in transparency? Do you believe in the First Amendment? Or are you going to play patty cake with centrist and or Magalite podcasters. And I think we publicly shame them. And I think that one thing Trump did is he went in all of these spaces and Democrats are going to have to do that. Now, here's the difference.

18:39When you get like, I spent an hour with Ro Khanna in New York a couple of weeks ago, and he was wonderful. Like I could ask him anything because he has conviction. He's not servicing corporations first. And I think the Democrats that refuse to come on my show or your show or somebody else's, I think we have to unite and kind of publicly shame them and call them out because I think public shaming is effective. And if you want to be a public official, then you need to come to places where your voters are and where your voters are most hurt. And establishment, former establishment Democratic supporters are more and more what my base of my listenership is.

19:25So if you want to be a good politician, come listen and come hear what we have to say. And if you're in my thing is like, if you're going to service your corporations first, get on a podcast and just fucking say it. Just say it. Just say it. Wear your jacket with all the sponsors and just be like, on the back, just the Jersey name, just be like, I'm about it. Palantir. Alex Karp, the dude doing all the blow and whatever. Yeah, no, I think that – I just like – I think people – and I don't think you ever could. You're a superstar. Have any like imposter syndrome about any of this? But I think the kind of the folks in the independent media coming up feel like maybe sometimes – I've heard this from friends who if they talk about who they can and cannot get, they kind of feel like it's a bit of whining, like, oh, why aren't you coming on?

20:10But like, no, they should be coming to these places where real questions are asked. If you're going to do the 2 p.m. hour at MSNBC, no shade to the friends over at there, I think you're getting more viewership per minute than they are per hour, for whatever the metric you want to use. So it just makes sense to come to these places. And I think maybe airing out some of those no's is a smart thing to do, to say, oh, this person said no to coming on when I was going to ask them about this. because people just need to know who's not willing to talk about this. And I will say, like, I asked this person five times.

20:40They wouldn't come on, but I have all these clips of what they've said in other. And they're going to be on my podcast, whether they come and defend themselves themselves or I find their clips and then I critique their clips. But either way, they are going to be on. I've had it. So it's up to them. Are you going to be a big boy and come sit in the big boy chair? Are you going to, you know, neuter it, Mark Zuckerberg out? Okay. I want to move on to our last point today, which I went to your Twitter feed before you. Oh, Lord. So I could see what you're tweeting. And you were all over the Graham Plattner.

21:13Oh, that's my guy. I love him. Okay. So listener, for those of you that don't know, Graham Plattner is this great, former vet, totally progressive working class, calls a spade a spade, talks about the blank check to Israel and how, you know, the genocide in Palestine with moral clarity. When he was younger, he got a tattoo and everybody's like, that's a Nazi tattoo. And he's like, I had no idea it was. And because it's not like the obvious swastika, had it covered up and owned it. Like I said, here it is. I got it covered up and he's continued. And the Democrats have endorsed like an 80 year old woman named janet mills is she the governor right now she's the governor right now yeah okay she's 80 and she takes a pack money probably palantir i don't know if that's true or not somebody can fact check me in the comments but she's a corporate dim and platner he has not dipped at all so tell tell us your take on this race in maine because i think it's super important because maine has always elected moderates and that horrific susan collins well we just have actually, we'll get to the breaking news right now, because I do not want to misquote, was just such an incredible poll.

22:31But it shows that in the primary right now, Graham Plattner, just in the primary, is up 38 points. But when you go to head-to-heads in the general, he's beating Susan Collins by 11 points, and Janet Mills would be by one. So all the people who want to talk about who's electable and who we can actually get through, oh, and oh, sometimes you got to hold your nose and vote for that, it's Graham Plattner. But if you want to win that seat, it's Graham Plattner. And you talk about Zoran or someone like AOC or Bernie or Rowe, these are people who it's so easy for them to answer questions because you know they're speaking from just a value set that is incredibly obvious.

23:10Bernie is always coming back to the billionaires, right? Zoran is always going to be talking about affordability, not because that's like the messaging points that he has, but that's just what he cares about and wants to talk about. Something that I think Graham does very well is a very normal guy, which we need more in the Democratic Party, not just normal, like as a 23-year-old dude, like we need more normal guys, is that he brings the conversation a lot back to freedom. And not freedom in the abstract way that we've described it when it's like we got to get out in democracy and people are like corporations buy our elections and my vote doesn't really matter.

23:43What the fuck do you mean democracy? But he talks about real freedoms, the freedoms to have time to go out and create and build community and to love and to not feel the fear of you will be bankrupted by a medical bill or you can't afford to eat or live. And I think that's real tangible freedom that is not just like, oh, at the DNC, we had more American flags, so we are patriots. But no, we are after giving you the life that you deserve in the wealthiest country in the world. And I think talking about freedom that way and a life that you can envision that is aspirational is something that he clearly recognizes, at least because of the service that he gave to this country, he is able to enjoy and deserves.

24:26But Graham believes, as anyone should in the wealthiest country in the world who loves it, that everyone should enjoy those freedoms. So I think he speaks about that. And I think that specifically, and I don't want to speak for his campaign in its entirety because I think everyone should go check out his clips. He's fantastic. He's a great guy. He's a very, very nice dude. But I think that is when you're talking about Graham Plattner, why he resonates is because he is both real, but cares deeply about the real parts of your life. So that's my little Graham Plattner stump speech for why he's fantastic.

24:59I'm sure your viewers and listeners like him as well. But I just think that's what's so smart about his campaign. Then in the way Zoran is always going back to affordability. Bernie's talking about the oligarchs. Graham is real and really cares about the freedoms that you should have. I really like him. We had him on a while back and then before the tattoo brouhaha. And then I kind of followed that closely and I thought he really handled that well. And I told my listeners like, this is going to sound crazy, but like my husband has, I don't know, 20 tattoos. He got all of them after he got sober.

25:30So all of them he got like age 33 and up and then he'd have a relapse and get sober again and then he'd get more tattoos. And he has like these Chinese symbols and all this shit he has a tramp stamp in like sanskrit or something and people ask him all the time what does that mean he goes i don't know i was at the i don't know i was at the tattoo polar book and he goes i don't know i like to think this means diversity in chinese but i genuinely don't remember because i was literally like a girl and so i i kind of get that but i think i think he handled that very well let me ask you this i think there's one of my husband's uh political philosophies is very simple.

26:10And if you watch the Medi show, you know this, like my husband, he's a criminal defense attorney. And he's like, I don't really know what the fuck's going on in Israel and Palestine. I just know everybody that I hate supports Israel. And I think that we can take something simple like that, but like, who is Chuck Schumer endorsing? Yes. So Chuck Schumer, he is, he endorsed Janet Mills. Okay. So I think that sometimes we can just simplify things because there's so many things like you felt so overwhelmed right now, Jack, and you're like, oh my God, I'm so stressed about all this mega shit. We need to simplify things.