Trump Mocks Christians at Prayer Breakfast and Bullies Mike Johnson

5 Feb 2026 · 21 min · 6 chapters

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Trump Mocks Christians at Prayer Breakfast and Bullies Mike Johnson

Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan Episode Date: [Insert Date] Overview: In this episode, the hosts discuss Donald Trump's controversial appearance at the National Prayer Breakfast, where he mocks religious sentiments and displays erratic behavior. They explore the implications of his comments and the support he receives from white evangelical Christians.

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Key Points Discussed

Trump's Behavior

  • Erratic Speech: Trump shows signs of mental instability, with the hosts noting his "rambling" and "slurred speech."
  • Mocking Religious Figures: Trump makes a patronizing comment about Mike Johnson (referred to as "little Moses Mike"), suggesting he cannot relate to genuine expressions of faith.

Support from Evangelicals

  • Cult-like Support: The hosts argue that a significant proportion of white evangelical Christians (80-90%) support Trump, allowing him to act with impunity.
  • Disconnection from Reality: They emphasize the disconnect between Trump's actions and the values of the evangelical community, highlighting the absurdity of their continued support despite his behavior.

The National Prayer Breakfast

  • Inappropriate Remarks: Trump’s comments were seen as disrespectful not just to Johnson but to the broader Christian community.
  • Media Treatment: The hosts criticize mainstream media for downplaying Trump’s behavior, suggesting that the media's framing fails to hold him accountable for his actions.

Economic and Political Commentary

  • Failures of Corporate Democrats: The hosts express frustration with corporate Democrats who have failed to provide a clear, progressive agenda, allowing Trump-like figures to thrive.
  • Need for Economic Populism: They propose a shift towards an economic populist message that addresses the needs of working-class voters rather than focusing on bridging the divide with conservatives.

Call for Accountability

  • Lack of Consequences for Trump: The conversation touches upon the absence of accountability for Trump compared to other global leaders, pointing out systemic failures in the justice system and media.
  • Desire for Change in Messaging: The hosts advocate for a more aggressive approach in how Democrats engage with voters, emphasizing the importance of a coherent and strong political stance.

Critique of Political Rhetoric

  • Division and Polarization: The episode highlights how Trump uses divisive language, and the hosts express their fatigue with calls for unity that ignore the severity of the situation.
  • Impact of Rhetoric: They argue that Trump's rhetoric emboldens a culture of hate and division, counterproductive to the idea of national prayer.

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Conclusion Jennifer and Pumps conclude that the situation surrounding Trump and the political landscape requires a reevaluation of strategies by Democrats. They encourage listeners to recognize the gravity of these issues and advocate for a more robust, accountable political discourse.

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  • Reflect on the points raised regarding political accountability and the role of the media.

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Trump's Behavior and Its Consequences

0:45 to 3:40

Discussion on Trump's behavior and his influence on evangelical supporters.

“And they allow him to do whatever he wants with impunity.”

Analysis of Trump's Remarks

3:40 to 7:20

Examination of Trump's comments at the prayer breakfast and their implications.

“There's never been, you know, there's never been to the best of my knowledge, any politician that's ever been indicted who won an election.”

The Role of Media and Accountability

7:20 to 11:40

Critique of media portrayal of Trump and lack of accountability.

“He couldn't have ascended to this alone.”

Rhetoric and Political Division

11:40 to 14:11

Discussion on the divisive rhetoric used by Trump and its societal impact.

“No, I think you're absolutely right on that.”

Trump's Controversial Remarks on Religion

15:01 to 17:56

A discussion on Trump's sarcastic comments regarding religion and their implications.

“You know, I never get a fair break from the fake news, which is back there.”

The Divide Within Democratic Politics

17:56 to 20:18

Exploring the differences between corporate and progressive Democrats and their impact on voters.

“And if you're a trans person, that includes you too, because I'm not a dick.”
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0:04All right, the United States of America has a president that is in the epicenter of a child sex trafficking ring. and it gets this spotted news coverage. But more than anything, every single day, he gets in front of the camera and he is a raving lunatic. I mean, his mental illness is on full display. His dementia is on full display. His personality disorders are on full display. The unblended makeup on full display. And the press just rolls along with it. Today, we had the National Prayer Breakfast. And for those international listeners that want to know, why is this man not held accountable? And I'm going to tell you it's because not all Christians in the United States, but a very organized cult, white Christian evangelicals support this man to the tune of 80 to 90%.

0:54And they allow him to do whatever he wants with impunity. They all go. They all claim they're pro-children, pro-life, pro-family. They all go to the national prayer breakfast. And here he is talking about he won't even pray with little Moses Mike Grinder Johnson. Play the clip. In 2025, more copies of the Holy Bible were sold in the United States than at any time in the last 100 years. Now, how about that? How about that? Did you know that, Mr. Speaker? You know, Mike Johnson's a very religious person. And he does not hide it. He'll say to me sometimes at lunch, Sir, may we pray? Say, excuse me?

1:43What happened at lunch? It's okay with me. But he's a very religious person, and he is popular, and he's doing an unbelievable job. So I think God is watching over you. God is watching over him. I don't know about me. So I hang around with him because I feel I'm protected a little bit. Do you think, Pumps, that little Moses Mike Grinder gets what an insult that was to him? He gets that he says, ask me if we want to pray. Pray we're having lunch. And then he's a very religious man. Like he absolutely cannot relate to it. He says he talks about his religion all the time. Little Grinder, I don't think he even knows that he is being patronized.

2:27He doesn't know. And here's the thing. if he did know he wouldn't give a shit because Trump humiliates him on a daily basis with all the ass kissing and all the protections and just hate. I mean, Mike Johnson might as well not even be in Congress because he just is a rubber stamp for Donald Trump, period. So even if he did know, I don't think he would give a shit because he has his lips just plastered to Trump's ass. And I just have to say, did you see the makeup line? It's I did. And then just the marbles in the mouth, the slurred speech. He's a famous teetotaler, but he sounds intoxicated. And, you know, he does this stuff in any other country.

3:07If a president acted like this, and then we saw it in the United States and we had a normal president, we'd be like, God, that's crazy. Why don't they impeach him? That's nuts. But all of this stuff is going on here. You know, all of these other countries, accountability for involvement in Jeffrey Epstein, accountability in trying to cite a violent insurrectionist. Brazil held Bolsonaro accountable here. It's just like, keep going, buddy. Here he is talking about bragging to Melania about his many crimes at the Christian prayer breakfast. Play the clip. I got impeached. I got indicted. Wiped them out.

3:46There's never been, you know, there's never been to the best of my knowledge, any politician that's ever been indicted who won an election. Very popular politicians got indicted. They lost. I got indicted so much, I got tired of calling my wife and saying, darling, I was just indicted again.

4:10She said, oh, darling, what, oh, what does that mean? You know, she's very elegant. You saw that from the movie. She's not into the world of indictments. It's not Melania. She doesn't know what an indictment, you know, it's not her deal, her movie, by the way. First of all, 100 % chance, 110 % chance that they are not calling each other and saying, oh, darling, oh, darling, darling, oh, darling, I was invited. And Melania is like, oh, darling, Donald, you are unifier. Why they, why they indict you, Donald? She's probably like you. Another, another thing here. The reason other presidents have not been indicted is because they are not criminals.

4:56This whole thing is new. You being a convicted felon in the American public falling for this bullshit is very new. And you've had an assist from billionaires, the Supreme court, a lackluster DOJ under Joe Biden. You didn't do this on your own. You have been assisted and assisted and assisted in your effort to skirt responsibility. And it's just such an indictment on all of the administrations prior to this that didn't hold previous administrations to count. Obama, whom I love, came in. He didn't try George Bush on the Abu Ghraib, the CIA black side. So we got to look forward. And those were really egregious human rights violations.

5:45And so when you look at what's happening right now, and I don't like criticizing Democrats, but in order in this moment, it requires that we be really clear-eyed about all of the breadcrumbs that were left in order for this man to stand up there and act like an insane person to all of lying to all of these Christians. And they're just knee slapping. They think it's so cute and funny. And here's the thing. I, because I'm just a complete petty asshole, his, that speech went on for an hour and 24 minutes. He will not shut the fuck up. Can you, I mean, he makes no sense. He's flurring like this. And then here's one thing that just goes all through me.

6:28On all of the coverage, when I was searching about this prayer breakfast, the headlines were, Trump addresses the national prayer breakfast. It was very benign. Like he had just gone up there, given a few hee-hawes. Not. President Trump slurs, lies, and makes no fucking sense as he addresses the national prayer breakfast. And I think it goes to the point that you made. No one ever holds him to account, particularly the mainstream media now, which is in the pocket of all these billionaires if they're not a billionaire. Well, it's the same washing and this has been going on for such a long time.

7:11And when we really autopsy this and get super clear eyed, he has been able to get away with the assist of so many different people. He couldn't do this alone. He couldn't have ascended to this alone. He has had the backup of billionaire friends, a corrupt Supreme Court, a lackluster Biden administration that wasn't serious about prosecuting him, that lollygagged and pussyfooted around two years, two years before they appointed a special prosecutor. And it's just insane. and then the media to continue at this point. This should be a 9-1-1, House is on fire. Just this speech. And this is just a normal day in Trump's America.

7:58Here he is confirming that right-wing MAGA Christians hate Democrats. Play the clip. I don't know how a person of faith can vote for a Democrat. I really don't. And I know we have some here today, and I don't know why they're here because they certainly don't give us their vote. I certainly know that we're not going to be convincing them to vote for a little thing called vote. I want to tell you guys, this is good. This is a history of the National Prayer Breakfast. This is where Vladimir Putin was able to enter into Washington, D.C. because this group is the most co-opted group on the planet because they believe in nothing.

8:38They fall prey to propaganda like that because this group of people believes in nothing. These are the don't tread on me. These are the we must have the second amendment. This prayer breakfast is the most co-opted group of people in the world. This cult, this crazy Christian cult that exists in the United States of America, the ones that I know have been in it, have changed their opinions about things 180 degrees, 180 degrees, 180 degrees within one week, because he changes his mind. You know, this guy's supposed to be a big laissez-faire capitalist. His economics have been anything but. He's supposed to be a small government guy.

9:23His policies have been huge, huge government. He's supposed to be a decrease the national debt guy. It's increased more than anything. He's supposed to be this rock star with the economy in record time. It usually takes Republicans around four years to tank the economy. He's done it in one. The jobs right now, the job reports are abysmal. The stock market is starting to show. People are purging Bitcoins and the AI bubble that has been propping up everybody's 401ks is imminently going to pop because they're not getting a return on their investment. And you have literally, I've read into this, I think they're called the magic eight that just trade billions and trillions of dollars to keep the stock market afloat.

10:07And eventually it's going to come raining hellfire down on all these little Christians that like to get on their apps and look at their 401ks. And I don't know if that will change their opinion then. And I'm done, honestly, trying to change their opinion. And I think the Democrats that take a position of we need to learn how to talk to conservatives, we need to learn how to talk to moderates. No, you need to learn how to beat them. That needs to be your mantra. How do we beat these morally depraved people? I don't want to talk to people that triple Trump. They're going to have to bathe in the mess that they made.

10:43My vote happens to be so comprehensive that I want an economy that's fair for them, that I want them to be able to access health care if their daughters are raped. I want that choice of what the daughter chooses to do with such a horrible situation. I want that daughter to have that choice. All these little Christians there at the prayer breakfast, if they have a gay kid or a trans kid, I'm fighting for their kids right now. And so that's about as far as I can go with them. So instead of learning how to talk to them, let's take an economic populist message to everybody and say, look, we don't know how to bridge the divide with somebody who triple Trump.

11:21Start talking to your base, because if our base turned out, we win every election. That's why they want to make it so difficult to vote, because the data clearly shows the higher the turnout rate, the more Democrats win, because the Democratic policies are more inclusive. No, I think you're absolutely right on that. And I just want to add to what you said, that I get so tired of any time there is gun violence or any type of shooting, it's always, we need to bring down the rhetoric. Tom, home, and the borders are. I knew with this kind of talk that this was going to happen. And so they're always saying, tone down the rhetoric.

12:05We need to be unified. This man, he loved dividing people. He goes to a fucking prayer breakfast and sticks the knife in people. When he wishes people a happy, like Merry Christmas or Happy Easter, he radical left scumbag, you know, all these things that he does, the rhetoric starts with him and it emboldens everybody else. And here's the thing. I don't think that rhetoric is what is killing people in the streets. I think that's guns, but that's what they're, they always go back to. They have to tone down the rhetoric. And I listened to him talk. And I think, and Melani gets up there on Fox news and with the straight face, she's like, he's a unifier.

12:49I'm like, bullshit. This is the most polarizing man. And he likes it. He likes for people to hate him because in his mind, it's passion. And it's just, I get so tired of the same old mantra from them. I get so tired of no accountability. It's just unbelievable that we're in this position. And I agree with you. I don't give a fuck about bringing somebody over. What we need to do is beat them. I think that's the exact thing we need to do. All right, listener, it is a new year and it's time for you to get back to feeling like yourself, the holidays, so much eating, so much commiserating. If losing weight is one of your 2026 goals and you're ready to make progress you can count on, then weight loss by HERS might be the right fit for you.

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15:09That's a lot of fake news. Because last time I was having a lot of fun. We had a big run with 60 ,000 people. And I'm talking about the fact that I will never make it to heaven. I will never, ever. And I was being funny. I was trying to be, you know, you can't be sarcastic with them because they write your words. And the people who are reading the words are much different. But I said, I'm never going to make it to heaven. I just don't think I qualify. I don't think there's a thing I can do. but all of these good things I'm doing, including for religion, you know, religion's back now hotter than ever before.

15:43They have to test. Okay. Listen up. Do you see how he talks about religion? Like it's a commodity. Right. It's a transaction. Like this is why I fundamentally feel the Democrats fool's errand, Kamala Harris's fool's errand and trotting around with Liz Cheney. And I voted for Kamala Harris and I campaigned for her and I would crawl through concrete to vote for a moderate Democrat that I fundamentally disagree with over one of these MAGA people. But when you decide that you're going to go after an electorate that sits and listens to this and doesn't think crazy person, he's patronizing us, he's diminishing our faith, and they don't pick up on that.

16:27I don't know that they're going to pick up on whatever message you have. And I think the messaging from Democrats has got to be one of economic populism and universal human rights, because you're going to see as the midterms come up, you're going to see a lot of Democrats very, very quickly pick up trans people and throw them under the bus as quickly as they can, because some consulting group has done some poll and they've crowdsourced it and they're going to guide a lot of these politicians to move to the center. My argument about this is the center is where we lose when we don't believe in anything, when we're playing pick me politics.

17:07And I think if there are people in the margins that will float over, which we know that happens, Zoran Mamdani, one out of 10 of his voters were triple Trumpers. One out of 10, 10%. And I think what they liked about him is he had conviction. He had conviction. So when you're trying to do a word salad answer as a politician, or you start placating into right-wing talking points, you don't differentiate yourself enough from a corporate politician, whether it be a corporate Democrat or a corporate Republican to stand out. Zorn Mamdani said, look, I'm standing up to these billionaires. I'm not taking their money.

17:47They want to label me as this scary anti-Semite while using Islamophobia to do it. And I am going to stay laser focused on how I can make New York City affordable for everyone. And if you're a trans person, that includes you too, because I'm not a dick. He didn't say it like that. He has a lot more class than I do. But the Democrats are going, you're going to see two different factions that arise here. And I'm already seeing it. I saw an interview with Josh Shapiro that I'll do an episode on that was incredibly disturbing to me. We've seen Gavin Newsom buckle on taxing billionaires, buckle on AIPAC, and bend the knee to Josh Shapiro.

18:33And we're going to see a lot of these corporate Democrats where in their Venn diagram, they overlap more with MAGA than they do the people. And so a lot of people will say, Jennifer, you're too hard on Democrats. And there's a distinction that I must draw. I'm very hard on corporate Democrats because those are the people that lost in 2016 and were ignored. They ignored the progressive Democrats, the Bernie Sanders wing of the party. And in 2024, these were centrist corporate democratic policies. And so when people in rural America or fly over America say, I don't know what the difference is between the two parties.

19:10I used to be somewhat offended by that because I'm like, oh my God, like in a red state, it means, you know, abortion rights, gay rights, keeping 10 commandments and Bibles out of school. But if you're a working class person, they're exactly right. There isn't that much of a difference because these corporate politicians prop up corporations and lie, both parties lie to the public. Now, I will say this. Democratic politicians, when they're elected, are far better mitigating factors for harm reduction. There's no question about that. And I acknowledge that. The harm reduction mitigating factors of a Kamala Harris, of a Hillary Clinton, for people that are incredibly marginalized and really abusive, abusive, poverty-ridden states like Oklahoma, like Alabama, like West Virginia.

20:05These politicians reduce so much harm. But at the same time, we now realize they've incubated these pick-me policies, have incubated, unleashed an insatiable corporate thirst, and they have incubated fascism as a vacuum to fill said insatiable thirst. for corporate greed. All right, that's all we have. Like, subscribe, comment. We'll be back later with more news.

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