Trump Obsesses Over “Muscular Men” in Bizarre Speech as Elon Drama Explodes

21 May 2026 · 20 min · 8 chapters

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In short

The episode discusses alleged “gay”/sexualized remarks by Donald Trump, his obsession with “muscular men,” and broader claims about autocratic behavior.

Guests

none are named as co-hosts; the hosts reference prior guest Ruth Ben-Ghiat (historian/author on authoritarianism) and repeatedly address “Angie” and “Pumps.”

Key claims

Trump fixates on a safe, bunker-like project—his planned ballroom/“research facility” with drones—while ignoring economic hardship; Senate Republicans removed a $1B Secret Service request tied to the ballroom. The administration reportedly won’t seek Congress approval for a 250-foot arch; a judge ordered compliance with the Presidential Records Act.

Notable examples

Trump praising a cadet’s “perfect score” fitness tests; Mark Meadows allegedly burning records; Jeff Bezos reacting on TV; Ashley St. Clair alleging Elon Musk eugenics/extra babies and election-assassination collusion (extraordinary claims).

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Chapters

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Trump's Bizarre Speech Analysis

0:46 to 1:40

Discussion about Trump's unusual comments regarding fitness and men.

“Top story that I have for this episode is that Trump is acting gay again.”

Cultural Context of Trump's Comments

1:40 to 2:45

Exploring the implications of Trump's admiration for men and related cultural discussions.

“Pumps and I both, when we're at lunch or dinner and we see a gorgeous woman walk in, I'm like, God, she's a stunner.”

Autocratic Tendencies and Trump's Projects

2:45 to 4:15

Analyzing Trump's fixation on personal safety and his ballroom project.

“You know, I go back to when he came out to YMCA all those years ago.”

The Branding of Trump's Ballroom Project

4:15 to 6:40

Discussion on the poor branding and public perception of Trump's ballroom venture.

“So, pumps, I had our dear friend Ruth Ben-Ghiat on a weekend episode a couple of weeks ago.”

Planned Arch and Congressional Approval

6:40 to 9:05

Exploration of Trump's plan for an arch and the implications of bypassing Congress.

“But when you think about Americans cannot afford gas because it's going up, they're missing meals.”

Presidential Records and Legal Boundaries

9:05 to 12:10

Discussion about the federal judge's ruling on preserving presidential records.

“And so I think, and I'm dead serious about this, I think the next Democratic nominee needs to be locked and loaded with, he wants to build this shit, we will tear it down.”

Elon Musk's Controversial Claims Unpacked

15:30 to 18:35

Discussion on Ashley St. Clair's statements regarding Elon Musk and Trump.

“Clair, who Ryan, Kylie, and Seth, I need for you to book this woman on the podcast.”

Political Reactions and Cult-like Support

18:35 to 20:41

Exploration of MAGA's reactions to political events and polling insights.

“Now, it could be because she is a right wing influencer to her core and she knows what gets clicks.”
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0:34Good morning, America, and to all of our international listeners that just cannot take their eyes off of this slow-moving train wreck that has become the United States of America. Top story that I have for this episode is that Trump is acting gay again. Let's play the clip.

0:55I hate good-looking men.

1:00Very good. Matthew, that's great. Thank you very much. It's a great honor. We also have the only cadet who earned a perfect score on every single fitness test. Now we're talking fitness. Do you know who this is already? Wow, this guy must be something. I think we'll have to invite him up. I want to check it out. For the last four straight years, which they think may be an all-time... Straight years? Congratulations to Thomas Roach. Thomas, get up here, please. I want to see. I want to check him out.

1:40okay several things this happens again and again and again and again he got so excited about when he said the fitness test and then he talked about straight years and i think he was consecutive but the way he said it he's like let's get this guy up here i want to check him out and i'll remind you guys, he speaks constantly about how attractive he thinks men are. I don't have a problem with this. Pumps and I both, when we're at lunch or dinner and we see a gorgeous woman walk in, I'm like, God, she's a stunner. This is just a normal thing. But in the MAGA world, Andrew Tate, whose biggest fan is the son of Donald Trump, Baron Trump, is Andrew Tate's number one fan.

2:23Andrew Tate says having sex with a woman is gay if you're not procreating. And so there is just, I'm just going to say, there is just a lot of Trump acting and doing a lot of things that would be considered gay and or him being very attractive and turned on by men, which I understand. I'm very turned on by men. I get it. Angie. You know, I go back to when he came out to YMCA all those years ago. That was a clue. And then Phantom of the Opera. And then Arnold Palmer's, like, he's dropping breadcrumbs. And remember AOC was like, I'm sure we've had a gay president. And I'm like, follow the breadcrumbs.

3:04We may have one right now. And just the thought of, you know, all of the things he says about men, admiring men, you know, he likes men, all of those things. Imagine if Joe Biden had done that? What do you think would have happened on Fox News? Oh, I think they would throw an anti-LGBTQ plus parade with Jesse Waters sashaying and Sean Tang leading the charge on set is what I think would happen. I also would be remiss in the list of things that you listed that we didn't discuss when he was on the campaign trail and his microphone didn't work. And he leaned forward to give the microphone a blowjob with striking familiarity.

3:47You mentioned in one of our other podcasts, I've had it, it had been quite some time since she'd performed said task. And for him, I mean, it was just second nature. I mean, he just went right into it. And then Trump is not getting the$1 billion funding from Congress that he wants for his ballroom. Pop this up. Politico reports, In a blow to the White House, Senate Republicans will remove a$1 billion Secret Service funding request that would help Trump's ballroom project from their immigration enforcement funding bill and internal objections. So, pumps, I had our dear friend Ruth Ben-Ghiat on a weekend episode a couple of weeks ago.

4:33and she said that this is a feature of autocrats, that they get very fixated on finding a safe place, like a security blanket, if you will. They all do. They all get hyper fixated on it because they're committing crimes and they operate from so much fear and they know all of the moral rod that they're engaging in somewhere in their psyche. They're like, I have to be safe. tack on the fact that probably one of the more traumatizing events in Donald Trump's adult life was when Marine One picked him up after Joe Biden beat him and took him away from the White House. And we've been dealing with the throwing of the feces, you know, pardoning January 6th insurrectionists.

5:16I mean, this guy is an anti-democratic, anti-constitution, anti-American, two-bit drag queen dictator, right? Right. And so this ballroom is so much more than an area where he is going to host dignitaries. Yesterday, Angie, he said, we're going to have a research facility. And then he said, yeah, research facility in the ballroom. He said this. And then he said, you know, he's in this deathbed condition. So he keeps talking about all the stuff that's going to be down there. And then he says it's going to have drones. If a drone like shield, kind of like an iron dome, like Israel. And he's like, if a drone, if a drone hits it, it will just bounce off.

6:01He is building a bunker and he's laser focused on this. He doesn't give a shit about gas prices. He doesn't give a shit about America because he sees all of this, everything as his, including the treasury, which you've been calling for a very long time. that he thinks the money in the treasury is his personal money. Well, I just look at this ballroom, this whole situation. Trump has always been, to his credit, which I don't love, he's good at branding. And the branding for this ballroom has been abysmal from day one. I don't know if it's the slow decline or the quick decline of his mental capacities.

6:44But when you think about Americans cannot afford gas because it's going up, they're missing meals. I was reading an article yesterday, Trump supporters are saying, we still love Trump, but we have to fast now. You can't help these people. You can't help them. But then all he wants to talk about is his ballroom because he's bored with getting his kicked in Iran. I mean, he's bored with that. But the branding of this is just abysmal. Yes. And I think that there is an opportunity here politically for the Democrats to show the split screen of obviously Epstein and the people who stand up for child rape victims like Thomas Massey get kicked out of the party.

7:36The billionaires are, you know, like Jeff Bezos, his face plant on national television yesterday when he was talking about Trump's the most mature version of himself and he's measured, you know, just like, so, I mean, it's like, do you, you re they really think we're stupid, the disdain and the patronizing nature that maggot, obviously their cult takes on to it. They're like, oh, we're fasting. We're not driving our cars. We're down with that. But the majority of Americans are like, F you. And so the thing is, he's so laser focused that he's forgotten his branding and propaganda surrounding this because his fear of being removed from that place supersedes his ability to slap Trump on stuff and paint it gold and pitch it to the people.

8:25And he is still fixated on his his arch. And now they're saying he's going to be building his arch without congressional approval. Pop this up. The Washington Post is reporting breaking news. The Trump administration does not plan to seek approval from Congress for President Trump's planned 250 foot arch, arguing that they do not need it because lawmakers a century ago authorized a somewhat similar project that was never built. And I'm just going to say this, some of this stuff he's just going to do. Right. He needs to build the arch. Let him build the arch. I hope it's gold, garish, and hideous.

9:10And I want the Democratic nominee to say one of the first things I will do immediately after inauguration is I will get in one of those bulldozers, me personally, the incoming president of the United States with a hard hat on. And I will personally knock that down and we will have swarms of Americans surrounding it, celebrating the destruction of the hideous, garish, wannabe, Marie Antoinette wannabe arc de triomphe, you know, because he hears that in what it is in French, the famous arc de triomphe. And he's like, triomphe, Trump, Arch. It's like one of his cognitive exams. That's the affiliation with it.

9:55And so I think, and I'm dead serious about this, I think the next Democratic nominee needs to be locked and loaded with, he wants to build this shit, we will tear it down. We will tear every single bit of it down. Then after that, I'm going over to the Kennedy Center and I will personally climb up on a ladder with my little hard hat on, even put on a really cute tool belt and scrape off the Trump letters and then throw them in a bonfire. And I'm dead serious about that. That's the fight that the Democrats have to have to dismantle this cult. Well, and I would also, I mean, that's the best idea I've ever heard, but give an opportunity for people to buy like a seat next to the president as he bulldozes it down.

10:38I mean, your campaign coffers would be full, just going and being hands on the ground or boots on the ground watching all this destruction. And here's the deal. One thing, sorry to interrupt. The people who want to show up for the destruction of the arch need to be vetted. If at some point there, let's say it's Mark Cuban who goes and plays patty cake. No, you don't get to come. If you ever at some point played patty cake or waffled, or let's say did an interview with MSNBC or NBC or CNBC, whatever it was, and you said Trump 2.0 is more mature and more measured, you do not get invited to the destruction of the arch.

11:20Completely agree. I think that's a great punishment. Okay. Moving along here, a judge is striking down Trump trying to avoid preserving the presidential records. Pop this up. Kyle Griffin is reporting a federal judge has ordered White House personnel to continue complying with the Presidential Records Act after the Trump Justice Department argued in a legal opinion last month that the law was unconstitutional and that Trump has the authority to destroy presidential records from his term. Angie. Here's the thing about this. This goes back to the arch too. He's not getting congressional approval.

12:00He doesn't want to save the records. He is breaking the law. He wants to break the law. And I do not think that his team is going to collect these records. We heard about Mark Meadows burning shit. They have no respect for the rule of law, period. Whether they need Congress or not to build something, go fuck yourself. I'm going to do it anyway. You want the records? I want to sell the records. I want to take them to Mar-a-Lago and put them in the bathroom and sell this shit. So I'm not going to do anything I don't want to do because I am a two-year-old. It is the travesty just how far the respect for the presidency in the United States and how far America has fallen in the eyes of the world.

12:46It is stunning to sit here and watch it happen every single day. And I just want to say this. You need to realize that all of the people in the Trump regime. Self-preservation is going to run deep with these people because they know that they are committing crimes. And so he might be ordering this destructed and that destructed. There are going to be people that are like, I'm getting my get out of jail free card. I'm going to take a photograph of this document, or I'm going to make a Xerox copy of this document, or I'm going to email, you know, an encrypted version of this document to myself because they all know what they're doing is wrong and criminal.

13:29And yes, they are governing as though they will never face consequences. But I feel like I've read reports that Stephen Miller's kind of withdrawn some, that Trump hasn't liked him that much lately. So I think it's the most toxic work environment on the planet. And I think there's going to be a lot of unintended heroes, like piece of shit heroes that actually go because they want they're going to be like oh like marco rubia is going to be like well i actually had all the documents because i was the true patriot i'm trying to save the republican party some bullshit like that listener if you feel stuck trying to lose weight you are absolutely not alone that's why i want to introduce you to weight loss by hers it is designed to support you in reaching your goals and hers now offers access to an affordable range of FDA approved GLP-1 medications, including the Wegovi pill and the Wegovi pen.

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15:18To get started and learn more, including important safety information, We Govee clinical study information, and restrictions, visit ForHers.com. This brings me to our final story, which is the baby mama of Elon Musk, Ashley St. Clair, who Ryan, Kylie, and Seth, I need for you to book this woman on the podcast. she uh has been doing the rounds and she is singing like a bird uh pop this up here's a summary from evan loves wharf on a video of hers that was posted in the new york uh post and evan says this video is actually fucking wild ashley says elon has another baby with a japanese woman is against immigration from a eugenist standpoint, tried to impregnate Tiffany Fong behind her back, told Ashley to get a C-section so the baby would have a larger brain.

16:24And then Elon worked with Trump for weeks before declaring support for Trump because of the assassination attempt and leave this up for just a second because I need to unpack a couple of things. The eugenicist standpoint, that is Trump has this, Elon has this. This is the white supremacy great replacement theory, which is interesting that he's breeding with Japanese people. But Angie, you may remember we reported on Elon in the Petri dishes a while back and there were pretty substantiated rumors that he has a lot of embryos over in Japan. I think, you know, they say he has 12 or 13 kids. Some journalists have pontificated that it could be over 100.

17:09He's one of these crazy people that thinks he needs to leave his seed all over the place because his sperm is that great and he's that smart. This stuff about getting a C-section so the baby would have a larger brain, this is Maha science stuff where people don't listen to doctors. But this one right here, and then you can take it down. Let me read it one more time. Worked with Trump for weeks before declaring support for Trump because of the assassination attempt. Okay. Ashley St. Clair has also suggested in a roundabout way that Elon told her prior to the election that he had all these space lasers and he knew who won the election long before and he had all of this technology.

17:54This suggestion here that he worked with Trump weeks before the assassination attempt, and I'm reading into that saying it was staged and Elon helped him stage it. Do I know if that's true? No, I don't know. Do I think that they could do that? 100%, I think they could do that. But also, we always have to default on extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If Elon Musk rigged the election, do I think he would do it? Yes. Do I think Elon Musk, Donald Trump would do it? Yes. Do I think that Trump would stage his assassination attempt and even kill one of his own followers? Yes, I do. These are just extraordinary claims at this point, and they do require extraordinary evidence.

18:34And it's interesting that somebody from inside the Death Star is popping all this out. Now, it could be because she is a right wing influencer to her core and she knows what gets clicks. It could be that simple. Or. There's a little truth in every statement, Angie. You know, I agree with that. I mean, but then you go to how fast the messaging was and the turnaround of votes about the assassination attempt. And then I fast forward and I just link this in my head quietly that at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, immediately after is we've got to have this ballroom. We've got to have this ballroom.

19:14And what's so fascinating about MAGA is that didn't we see polls that at least half of MAGA thought the assassination attempt was staged immediately after? And they don't give a fuck. That's what's so crazy about it. I mean, they had maxi pads on their ears at the Republican National Convention. Fast forward, they don't believe him and they don't care. I need to correct something here. Democrats believe in the polling that I have seen. More Democrats believe that the White House Correspondents' Dinner was staged than Republicans. You always have to remember you could see a poll where it has independents that may be voted for Trump that say this.

20:04All of the polling I consistently see regarding MAGA is when you get to triple Trumpers that identify as Republicans, he has a plus 80 % approval where we're seeing fissures, where we're seeing people breaking off, where we're seeing people saying, I don't think that's right. I don't think that is right. Some of the right wing media personalities have said they think it's bullshit. But when you get to the cult, his support is rock solid. Look at what happened to Thomas Massey. I mean, it is rock solid support. All right. That's all we have. Sorry. That's all we have. Please like subscribe, comment, and we'll be back later with more news.

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