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Podcast Episode Notes: IHIP News - "Trump Panics in Epstein Aftermath Pushing Lies as Clintons Gear Up to Testify"
Episode Overview In this episode, hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan delve into the political implications surrounding the release of Jeffrey Epstein files and the Clintons' forthcoming testimony. They discuss Donald Trump's responses to the allegations and the broader context of political propaganda, accountability, and the challenges faced by the Democratic Party.
Key Discussions
Trump and the Epstein Files
- Dismissal of Victims: The hosts express outrage at Trump’s remarks that belittle the experiences of Epstein survivors, framing his comments as gaslighting and propaganda.
- Trump's Denial: Despite being implicated in the Epstein files, Trump claims innocence and urges the Department of Justice (DOJ) to move on, which the hosts argue is a blatant lie.
- Compromise: The discussion includes the suggestion that Trump is compromised by foreign entities, including Russia and Israel, and the implications this has for his political power.
The Role of Media
- Western Media's Responsibility: The hosts criticize Western media for failing to report on potential connections between Epstein, Maxwell, and intelligence agencies, particularly Mossad.
- Propaganda Tactics: They emphasize that Trump's administration and supporters engage in systematic propaganda, distorting facts to manipulate public perception.
Accountability and Hypocrisy
- Clintons’ Testimony: The Clintons' agreement to testify is noted, but there is frustration over the lack of accountability for Trump. Despite being intertwined in Epstein’s world, he has not faced questioning.
- Democratic Inaction: Welch and Sullivan express disappointment with the Democratic Party for not taking stronger action against Trump, whom they view as a fascist figure who seeks to consolidate power.
Calls to Action
- Public Engagement: The hosts stress the necessity of public involvement in political movements and encourage listeners to remain engaged in the political process despite the challenges.
- Upcoming Elections: They highlight the importance of the upcoming midterms, warning against complacency and emphasizing that voter turnout must be significant enough to counteract potential election rigging.
Broader Implications
- Civics and Democracy: The discussion reflects on the erosion of civil liberties and the fragility of democracy under current political conditions. They warn that the system is being manipulated by oligarchs and powerful interests who prioritize their own agendas over the public good.
Key Takeaways
- Gaslighting and Propaganda: The episode highlights how Trump’s rhetoric serves to manipulate both public opinion and media narratives, often at the expense of truth and accountability.
- Challenge of Accountability: There is a consistent theme of frustration regarding the lack of accountability for both Trump and other political figures involved in serious allegations.
- Civic Responsibility: Listeners are urged to remain vigilant and active in political matters, recognizing that change often stems from grassroots movements and public engagement.
Conclusion The episode combines sharp criticism of current political figures with a motivational call for civic participation, highlighting the importance of informed and active engagement in preserving democratic values. The hosts remind listeners that the fight for accountability and truth is ongoing and requires collective effort.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Gaslighting on Epstein
0:46 to 3:00
Discussion on Trump's dismissive comments regarding Epstein allegations.
“Clinton and Bill Gates and lots of people that have, there are a lot of questions about it, but nothing on me.”
Media's Complicity and Accountability Issues
3:01 to 5:30
Exploration of media failures and accountability in the Epstein case.
“As I continue to review these files, I think none of these men are going to face accountability, least of all Trump.”
Epstein's Network and Political Implications
5:31 to 7:50
Discussion on Epstein's connections and implications for political figures.
“So Kylie, let's skip two and go straight to three.”
Propaganda and Political Manipulation
7:51 to 10:40
Analysis of propaganda tactics used by Trump and his administration.
“And we cannot take our normal everyday logic that we would apply to a Mitt Romney administration or a George W.”
Public Perception and Scapegoating
10:41 to 13:10
Examination of how marginalized groups are scapegoated in political discourse.
“terrorize immigrant polling places, black polling places, that he's not going to have Tulsi Gabbard go get paper ballots right in the evening of the election day for the midterms is a fool's errand.”
The Epstein Files and Political Manipulation
14:00 to 17:44
Uncover the connections between political figures and the Epstein files, highlighting the manipulation of public perception and scapegoating tactics.
“A lot of these people in his cabinet, I believe we're at 25 to 30, are also cankles deep in the Epstein files.”
The Fight for Democracy and Accountability
17:55 to 21:53
Explore the challenges facing democracy in the U.S., the role of corporations, and the need for grassroots engagement to ensure accountability.
“They are intentionally weakening the United States of America.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04Nothing is more dismissive of Epstein survivors and victims of sexual assault than to be swooshed genocide, hoaxed, all of the things that Donald Trump does. And we know that Donald Trump is cankles deep in the Epstein files. But here's what he said yesterday in the Oval Office, proving his ability to gaslight never dies. Nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. And in fact, if you look at the DOJ, they announced, you know, they released three million pages. It's like this is all they're supposed to be doing. And frankly, the DOJ, I think, should just say we have other things to do because that whole thing has turned out, I mean, other than Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and lots of people that have, there are a lot of questions about it, but nothing on me.
0:53But it was even sort of better than that. Okay. Nothing on me. DOJ needs to move on. That is so dismissive. It is such a lie. What are your thoughts on seeing him say that? Well, it's intentional propaganda and gaslighting that the administration has done forever. This man is every single time he's accused of something and he's clearly objectively involved in something, clearly objectively in the middle of it, he lies, pathologically lies through his teeth. It is a survival fight or flight reflex for him. So this is not new. Just the subject matter is new. and his, you know, supporters were all involved in this release the files, release the files, release the files.
1:41His attorney general, Pam Bondi, the list is on my desk. The file is, files are on my desk. I will be releasing everything fully transparently, blah, blah. Well, this guy's in it like over 50 ,000 times or something like this. Over 5 ,300. Yeah. He's compromised by Russia. Western media doesn't even remotely report that he's compromised by Israel. And all throughout the reports, there is reporting that both Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell are Mossad agents, which should be the top story. But Western media refuses to objectively report on this story. We have Jeffrey Epstein and Peter Thiel in deep conversations about dismantling the EU, starting with Brexit.
2:30They high-fived over that. And they want to create a new world order. But all of these guys, Peter Thiel, Steve Bannon, they can't run for office. they're not electable. So they have this idiotic, demented show pony that is really, really easy to manipulate. And so they got him inside the walls of power and they're dismantling it. He's their Trojan horse and none of that gets reported. And it's so frustrating. It's so frustrating. As I continue to review these files, I think none of these men are going to face accountability, least of all Trump. And it makes me so mad to think all of this was going on for years.
3:17I mean, it was a full-blown pedophile sex trafficking ring to the highest reaches of power and money and political agents. And nobody is going to be held accountable. Not only that, the FBI is releasing pictures and private information about these women, but yet they're blocking out pictures, aka Donald Trump, of his face in these photos. It is just, it's so - Let me say something here. I understand Trump's DOJ blocking out stuff - I agree. ... and releasing the victims. Merrick Garland and Joe Biden had this for four years, four years. And they just said, here, here's democracy. You fascist nut job who everybody that worked with you in Trump 1.0 said that you wanted generals like Hitler's generals, that you were a fascist through and through, that you asked if you could shoot protesters in Trump 1.0.
4:16These are conservatives that served with him in his first administration. And the Democrats are like, oh, well, we believe in the American people not to get brainwashed on social media. So we'll just pass it all back over to these fascists. It is the most maddening thing. I expect nothing but moral depravity from MAGA Republicans, especially if they talk about being Christians. You know, they're the most broken, emotionally stunted, diabolical, cruel people among us. And they feed off all of this. And so it makes me so incredibly angry that the Democrats didn't do anything about that. And then I look at what the Democrats are doing right now.
4:54Now, we have Chuck Schumer. I pledge allegiance to Israel over the weekend. It's just, it's so incredibly frustrating. And so it's hard to stay engaged. It's hard to think how are we going to make it through this. But I look back upon history and it's always been people that have been the impetus of movements, not political parties. And scholar Tom Snyder reminds us of that again and again and again. It is the people that promote movements. And so that's what keeps me going. No, I think you're exactly right. It is so frustrating. And I think you were one of the very first people that pointed out like what you just said, people have to stay engaged as hard as it is.
5:37We have to come together. So Kylie, let's skip two and go straight to three. And we find out as fucking Trump, who is all over the Epstein files, has to bring up Bill Clinton and Bill Gates, we find out that Bill and Hillary Clinton are willing to testify in a four-hour deposition recorded by transcript from the Oversight Committee. And so what my question is, do I think Bill Clinton was up to some really shady shit in this? Absolutely. Do I think he should be held accountable for it? Absolutely. But what makes me so mad on this, again, Donald Trump hasn't been questioned under oath for four hours about Epstein.
6:21He hasn't said he's willing to do that. In fact, when asked, his assistant or the deputy attorney general, Todd Blanche is like, well, just because he parted with Epstein doesn't mean he did anything wrong. They've not questioned him. They've not asked for sworn statements. They've done fucking nothing. And so Trump is so happy to throw the Clintons under the bus, which if they're in it, I'll throw them under the bus. But don't sit there in the Oval Office in front of Howard Nutlick that looked like he had just swallowed a basketball during that same press conference. Throw the Clintons under the bus when you yourself will not sit for any type of questioning, which would his DOJ do any kind of decent questioning?
7:06No, but it just the gaslighting, the pain that he causes people is just, it's so enraging. And then something with this last dump, pull this up. Okay. In an email talking about acquiring a new modeling agency, Jeffrey Epstein says he introduced Melania to Donald Trump. That doesn't surprise me. That's been the whispers this whole time. That would make more sense to me in terms of she came over, the visa, all of those things. She married a rich guy in the inner circle. But this whole documentary she just does. It would have been interesting if she would have talked about her ties to Epstein, but she didn't.
7:54But to think that the first lady and Donald Trump are BFFs, we've seen in these documents, she's emailing Ghislaine Maxwell, making plans with her, that this DOJ under this administration has not recused because of a conflict of interest your face. They're not going to do that. They're going to go after the Clintons. They're going to be hypocrites. They're going to gaslight. And we cannot take our normal everyday logic that we would apply to a Mitt Romney administration or a George W. Bush administration and apply that here. This is a different beast. These people are fascist through and through.
8:37Their number one default setting is propaganda. He will always go after innocent people. Don Lemon arrested a huge blow to the First Amendment. He went after James Comey, who I don't even really like. I think he's the one that handed Donald Trump the entire presidency the first time around. Letitia James, Alvin Braggs. I don't have any expectation that these fascists are going to do the right thing. I expect every single morning they are going to wake up, lie and propagandize. I expected when Melania Trump had a sex offender direct her documentary at the behest of a shakedown from Donald Trump giving Jeff Bezos$40 million so that Jeff Bezos could bend the knee.
9:25I expect it to be nothing short of a hour and a half of excruciating bullshit propaganda. I wake up every morning and expect this from them. I know that this is not politics as usual. That's why I get frustrated with the Democrats because they are playing it as though, why is he doing this? Why isn't he doing that? And it's like, you've got to lock in. You've got to lock in. This guy is trying to consolidate power in the executive branch every day, all day. He's around pedophiles. He's around pedophile protectors. He himself, as I always say, is cankles deep in the Epstein files. And this whole movement with its mass support in evangelical Christianity is all about forgiveness without accountability.
10:23and every single day, any notion that they're going to wake up and be accountable is a fool's errand. Any notion that they're going to apply the law equally is a fool's errand. Any notion that they're going to wake up and not lie through their teeth is a fool's errand. Any notion that he is not going to do everything in his power to quote, nationalize the elections and send eyes to terrorize immigrant polling places, black polling places, that he's not going to have Tulsi Gabbard go get paper ballots right in the evening of the election day for the midterms is a fool's errand. We need to lock in and understand and just accept as a foregone conclusion that every single day when you wake up and Trump's America, you're going to get erosion of civil liberties.
11:13You're going to get pathological lies and you're going to get a shit ton of propaganda. You're going to have breathtaking hypocrisy. Our country does not run in the ways it has in the past. This is different. The oligarchs that get all of these government contracts do not care about its citizens. But most importantly, Donald Trump's ruling class, they don't give a shit about their citizens. It's proven how they are dismantling the EPA. Measles are on the increase. They are favoring constant corporations in removing safety regulations. So we need to lock in and be clear eyed every day when we wake up that this is what's coming for us every morning, every afternoon, every evening, overnight.
12:02The machinations of these madmen will not cease. There is not going to be any fair play from this administration at all. They're not going to make a clear eyed documentary about Melania. They're incapable of rigorous honesty because now we're at the phase in this coup that they believe their own propaganda. Yeah. When you said that after having spoken with Ruth Ben-Ghiot about they believe their own propaganda, that was chilling to me because on some level, I thought they knew the truth, but I wouldn't argue with you or Ruth Ben-Ghiad on that point. And just one final thing about propaganda and what's going on in Fox News.
12:48We have this comment made, and I just thought I have to show Jennifer this clip. They're really worried about if this is indicia for the midterms, because they're all saying, oh, it's done, we're going to control Congress. This is the indication that that silent majority is still out there. The Melania documentary, which was the biggest box office flop, is now the reason that Democrats are worried about the midterms. I just thought that is a whole new level of bullshit. Every day, Fox News surprises me with the level of bullshit. That's the problem. We mustn't be surprised anymore. We must be prepared that every single day they are going to wake up and North Korea style propagandize us.
13:36We have to accept it. We have to be clear right about that. Every single day, the people, the strong man that is now weak, frail, demented, showing clear signs of physical, you know, being closer and closer to physical death. everybody in his cabinet, as opposed to Trump 1.0, are loyalists, first and foremost. These are sycophants. A lot of these people in his cabinet, I believe we're at 25 to 30, are also cankles deep in the Epstein files. The oligarchs that have bent the knee to Trump are cankles deep in the Epstein files. So every day, any form of propaganda from this regime, the oligarchs, Rupert Murdoch that wants to keep him propped up.
14:21They are going to keep your eye off the ball. Immigrants are being scapegoated. Immigrants are not the people that are taking your jobs. Historically, this is what strong men do. They scapegoat marginalized groups to take your eye off the ball that the oligarchs and the billionaires are the ones that are taking your jobs. They are the ones that are the reason that you can't have nice things and you can't have healthcare. We're not talking about here that Donald Trump is clearly compromised by Vladimir Putin. And this is confirmed in this most recent dump. Jeffrey Epstein has Donald Trump and a lot of people in his administration by the balls with Israel.
15:01He is compromised by Israel. And then our brain needs to go to, and we need to be clear, right? Chuck Schumer over the weekend told donors, His number one goal is to make sure Israel still continues to be funded. So you have all of these dark forces controlling the ruling class, which is Donald Trump. He's not controlling everything. These oligarchs that know how to dog walk and manipulate him are. These same people are also controlling our opposition, which is why it's so frustrating being an American right now. And Fox News is going to continue with outrageous propaganda. Amanda, when you had the day off yesterday, Pumps, I talked about Riley Gaines saying empathy and compassion are being weaponized against us as women.
15:46This outlandish insanity permission structures for them to be the morally depraved, hypocritical Christians, faux patriots that they are is going to get worse. And we've got to lock in and we have got to be clear eyed about what we're up against. They are going to try to rig the elections. Our outpouring of going to vote has to be too big to rig. This man and all of his sycovants, all they're going to do is going to wake up and plunder. Repeat, wake up and plunder. All right, we're living in a very scary time with all of our information available to nefarious actors online. And so everyone kind of feels vulnerable.
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18:00And here's why. And this is the most important part. The United States, as it's written right now, gives the power to the people. Citizens United took that away from us. And since then, when we started empowering corporations over human beings, they have realized, oh, this is a lot of fun. We're too dorky to run or immigrants ourselves, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel. So we will install puppets and we will get all of the power and we will pull all of the levers. When you find out through these Epstein files, this has been going on 10 years back, the machinations of these really dark, nefarious people that they've decided, oh, I don't think democracy is great anymore.
18:49Well, you put your ass, Peter Till, with your greasy face on a ballot, and you run. And let's see how well that goes. Let's run you against immigrant Zoran Mamdani, and let's see who wins. Let's run Elon Musk against Zoran Mamdani, and see who wins. These people, all they know how to do is cheat. Propaganda is cheating. Fox News is cheating. These are titty babies that get up and whine and lie all day, every day. And it's our job to call it out. I love you pumps that we think that maybe they might have a logical, like, how can we get away with doing this when this is so clearly hypocritical. That's the point.
19:37The flagrant, the rules that apply to everybody else don't apply to us. And we have to be clear-eyed about what we're up against every single day. Amplify scholars, amplify experts. This playbook has been done before in history. And we have to make sure, because this is our last chance in the midterms, that the power remains with the people and that we install a democratic party that will fix the constitution because the constitution was not written to sustain what this man is doing. The constitution didn't have any guardrails for a madman who also has a Supreme Court that gives all of the power to the richest people in the country.
20:25It was too vague and opaque on a lot of that stuff. And so not only, this is why I'm so critical on the Democrats, because we want to have a ruling party. We have to number one, beat Republicans, and that's fun. And I love it. And it feels great. It feels like a drug. I love it. But number two, when we get power, Biden didn't fix anything. He further broke it. And so it has to be a two-part strategy. And we have to have an FDR style rule. And that's why I think we have to just keep hammering and making sure our base understands how important the voting is and their intention to scare us, their intention to advertise the breathtaking hypocrisy so that we will descend in denialism.
21:11That's their desired result. And so we have to stay engaged. It's exhausting. Oh my God, am I exhausted from it? But it's the fight of our lives and we must step up and meet this moment. I completely agree. And thank you for always staying on it because I get lost in it. And you always bring me back focused as fact and say, here's what you need to do. So I appreciate that. Of course, I always got you. I always have you girl. But stay on it. Ms. Welch has given our marching orders. We got to remember to do that and listen. And we will be back with more news. Thank you.
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