In short
The episode mixes two threads: chronic migraine medical info and political commentary. The political segment argues MAGA is fracturing as Trump faces legal setbacks and voter backlash, and claims Republicans are trying to suppress voting while Democrats are too tied to corporate interests.
Guests
Josh Welch (studio guest; described as discussing media framing and election-law strategy) and Mark Elias (referenced as “top election lawyer,” election litigation expert).
Key claims
a Massachusetts federal judge barred the U.S. Postal Service from advancing new mail-voting restrictions; host says it will reach the Supreme Court and could cause chaos due to timing. The episode also alleges DOJ civil-rights focus on “voter fraud” is gaslighting without evidence, citing Bill Barr’s 2020 statement and Heritage Foundation investigations.
Notable examples
Megyn Kelly clip about polling/economy; Trump “whitewashing” Civil War history at Arlington; calls for Supreme Court reform (expansion, term limits, ethics oversight).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMAGA's Discontent and Economic Concerns
0:00 to 0:54
Discussion on MAGA supporters' shifting sentiments towards the economy.
“15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more, can make me feel like a spectator in my own life.”
MAGA's Discontent and Economic Concerns
1:25 to 3:11
Discussion on MAGA supporters' shifting sentiments towards the economy.
“They don't like what's happening in their bank accounts.”
Judicial Challenges to Trump's Tactics
3:11 to 6:47
Analysis of a federal judge blocking Trump's mail voting restrictions.
“Judge Blocks Trump's effort to rig the midterms.”
Supreme Court's Role and Potential Reforms
6:47 to 9:07
Exploration of the Supreme Court's influence and calls for reform.
“The double dealings, what do we do with such an entity?”
Trump's Whitewashing of History
9:07 to 12:39
Evaluating Trump's actions regarding Civil War narratives and voter fraud claims.
“Well, let's start from the preface that Donald Trump is a liar.”
Democratic Challenges and Internal Conflicts
12:39 to 14:03
Discussion about issues within the Democratic Party and recent hires.
“And there's more Democrats than there are Republicans.”
Critique of Democratic Leadership
14:03 to 18:24
A discussion on the failures of current Democratic leaders and the need for new leadership.
“establishment, we have some problems as well.”
Transcript
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1:34all right there seems to be fissures in the MAGA cult I know it feels like oh we're saying it again but when the right-wing media starts covering this I think it's a pretty big deal here's Megyn Kelly play the clip they gave Trump a year and a half he's done nothing other than make things worse this is how they feel if you read the polls and so and they're pissed they're not feeling pro-GOP right now for a variety of reasons they don't tend to like the tariffs I still am open-minded to them, but I don't speak for the independents, even though I am one. They don't like the war. They don't like what's happening in their bank accounts.
2:08And they're starting to think the Democrats might be the better option on the economy. All right, here to discuss this with me in studio is Josh Welch. Do you see how she just used that propaganda? Like the Democrats are the best to discuss this on the economy. The Democrats historically are better with the economy and those are just facts that's right and also the framing of this where she's claiming a lot of the voters are now not pro-gop pro-gop looks like having an incompetent insane leader that tweets or issues truth social posts all night the framing of that is what i have a problem with the leader is clearly their leader donald trump is clearly mentally incompetent.
2:52He's insane. And so, no, nobody wants to jump off the cliff with him. No, everybody's starting to see it finally. And the economy, she's right. Everybody's pissed off that he didn't deliver, but it's no surprise to us that he didn't. He's a con man. He's a grifter. Now they're realizing the same thing. All right. And then moving along here, Judge Blocks Trump's effort to rig the midterms. And this is going to become fever pitch between now and November. Pop this up. Mark Elias, top election lawyer in the country, says breaking a federal judge in Massachusetts barred the U.S. Postal Service Friday from advancing new mail voting restrictions that, if carried out, could leave vast numbers of people unable to cast a ballot by mail this fall.
3:43This has disaster written all over it. this is headed to the Supreme Court. That's where it's headed. And what's not said in that piece is the fact that even if they ruled that the implementation of this rule was lawful, they still don't have enough time to do this. It's going to send everything into chaos. And so this is going to be one of those cases that we've talked about here that makes its way up to the shadow docket, the emergency docket. And we're going to see what the Supreme Court does, because if they rule in favor of Trump, and every indication is that Trump thinks that he's got this issue one, if you notice that.
4:23The Postal Service continues to implement this policy, even though it hasn't been declared legal yet by any court. They still move forward with it because they think in their mind, and Trump does, hey, this is going where we know it's going. It's going to go in my favor. Keep moving forward. And we'll see. It's going to be a huge play as it relates to our elections. I mean, this issue right here is one for everybody to watch if you care about free and fair elections come November. Josh, what do you think if the Supreme Court rules, they've already shown that they are an anti-voting body. They are trying to make it more difficult for people to vote, i.e.
5:03by gutting the Voting Rights Act. If they do this with the United States Postal Service ballots. A lot of elderly people, even our senior citizen president votes by mail. What kind of, there's no legitimacy left with the Supreme Court. But at that point, if we, if they start, Robert starts tallying up all of these, no votes for you, no votes for you, no votes for you. What do you think the Democrats, should they get both houses, Senate and House in the midterms, and then we get a Democratic president. What needs to be done about the Supreme Court? It seems utterly insane. These people aren't elected.
5:44A lot of them appointed by presidents that didn't even win the popular vote. Chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more, can make me feel like a spectator in my own life. Botox, onabotulinum toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month. It's the number one prescribed branded chronic migraine preventive treatment. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. Allerge your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition.
6:18Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor, visit BotoxChronicMigraine.com, or call 1-800-44-BOTOX to learn more.
6:49It is a minority court that's corrupt. The double dealings, what do we do with such an entity? There's been a lot of talk about reform, and adding 13, a total of 13 justices to the court has been one idea. But the biggest problem where we sit as lawyers, as attorneys, is that this body, the Supreme Court, has no oversight at all, no ethical oversight that they're subject to. Myself as a lawyer, I'm constrained by the rules of professional conduct governed by the American Bar Association, the Oklahoma Bar Association, they live on their own island. They play by their own rules. They set all of these rules and parameters themselves without any kind of meaningful oversight.
7:37And so when you look at real reform, what does that look like? Number one, expanding the court to be more reflective of the citizens of this country. You look at term limits so that you don't have an 85-year-old justice up there making decisions that's just simply profiting off of his time there or her time there. You also, you bring in somebody that can oversee the ethical issues associated with guys like Clarence Thomas that are just flat profiting off of decisions they make before the court to where there can be a meaningful system of checks and boundaries and also bring them up for impeachment if you think that they violated the law.
8:22Actually do something. Because it's preposterous. As you mentioned, they've destroyed the Voting Rights Act. Don't you think this is bound to happen when we set up systems where we give the Supreme Court so much power, where every other person on the planet has some, we have some form of the social contract with our jobs, accountability with the law, et cetera. And then we set up this institution that we say is the law of the land and these lifetime appointments. It just seems so antiquated and so dilapidated. And they're allowing Trump, they're kind of like, yeah, we're down with all this. Trump is now whitewashing America's history of slavery.
9:06Pop this up. Washington Post is reporting the Trump administration has removed language criticizing a memorial to the Confederacy formerly located in Arlington National Cemetery, part of its ongoing effort to reshape portrayals of the Civil War. Josh. Well, let's start from the preface that Donald Trump is a liar. We know that. Let's look at 1-6 with what he's done to whitewash that story. So none of this comes as a surprise. The surprise here, if anything, is that people don't see Donald Trump for being a racist. He's a racist. He's dating back to the 70s and 80s with his own actions. He clearly doesn't want the clear history of our country to be told truthfully.
9:55He does anything he can to build a narrative and change his set of facts. Like the truth is not a friend of his. You and I know that. Yeah. All right. And then this is what Trump is using the Civil Rights Department of the DOJ for. Pop this up. Trump administration gives DOJ civil rights unit a new focus, voter fraud. Federal election monitors traditionally focused on protecting the voting rights of marginalized groups are getting additional marching orders for the midterms. There's been no evidence to support that there's any voter fraud in our elections. And if you notice, I think it was a while back that they made an announcement they're investigating voter fraud in California.
10:41I think there is an announcement about that. And what they're doing by planting those seeds in the public is that they're building a narrative, like a pretext, for them to be able to go in and challenge these elections later. There's no truth to any of this stuff. This is complete gaslighting. But what you do when you gaslight someone is you have a press conference, you have a U.S. attorney or someone in the Department of Justice say, we're investigating voter fraud. I think they did this in California. It then allows you to build the narrative. It then allows you to run with it. And you have outlets like Fox News and other media outlets that pick this story up and report it without any sort of fact checking because there's no voter fraud.
11:22Like this has been looked at meticulously. If you remember back in 2020, Trump's own leader of DOJ, Bill Barr, said, I can't find a goddamn thing. I can't. I'm sorry. And then, of course, he got his ass in trouble for that. Well, even the Heritage Foundation, which is just absolutely a horrifically evil, anti-woman, anti-American think tank. And I would call it an unthink tank, a stupid tank. They did their own investigation. And our elections are free and fair. But I think the through line here is Republicans are always the ones claiming all this. Republicans are always the one making it harder to vote.
12:00And why is that? Because their policies suck. And right now, Donald Trump is the manifestation of every Republican idea with a mask off. Republicans have always been like Donald Trump. They were just more polite about it. Right. They were a little bit more professional about it. They didn't change their hair color and tweet all this crazy shit, but they've always been this diabolical. So their policies are not uber popular. And the more people vote, the more Democrats win. And the Republicans know that. They know it. And that's why they try to make it so difficult for people to vote. That's right.
12:40And there's more Democrats than there are Republicans. But the Republicans have this philosophy. They want their voters uneducated and stupid. and that's by design and they do that that's why they dismantle the department of education that's why they do all the things they do with their policies that's number one the second thing uh republicans as you pointed out have zero policy and so when you have zero policy how are you going to unite your base what you do is you find a boogeyman you find a straw man you can rally around. So you see this in the bullshit female trans issue in sports that they prop up, you know, and so in other words, when we've got nothing to say, when we're getting beat at the polls, let's go beat that stick.
13:25Let's go beat that drum that we know is going to resonate all of our base to come together, whether it's guns, whether it's hating on African-Americans, whether it's homosexuals, whether it's trans athletes and women's sports, whatever it is, that's the kind of shit they talk about when they can't talk about policies, when they can't talk about the economy. And they can never do that because they don't have policies. All they have is hate. I completely agree with that. And speaking of politicians that don't seem to be doing the work for the people, and this is obviously a Republican problem, but in the Democratic establishment, we have some problems as well.
14:06And the Senate minority leader, Chuckles, Chuck Schumer's daughter, just landed a new job. Pop this up. OpenAI hires Senator Chuck Schumer's daughter to work for the Artificial Intelligence Corporation. And so we have reported on this podcast for quite some time that Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, the leaders of our party, are in bed with the same lobbyists that are funding fascism. And that feels like they can't be on our team when they're also collaborating with fascists. And this is just another prime example. And I'm hopeful that if the Democrats win, and it is a big blue tsunami, that some independent-minded Democrats in the Senate and in the House say, we are so sick of this seniority bullshit.
15:01We want to be untethered to corporate interests. We want to fight for the people because the Democrats are doing well at the polls right now, despite Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffrey. I was going to say, despite their leadership is what we're saying. And so as a longtime progressive Democrat, I look at guys like Chuck Schumer and I think, how can you stand on any sort of record the democratic party in the last four to six years has been a disaster it's time to overhaul the leadership it's been especially for for guys like us even in middle america or on the left coast right coast wherever uh people are pissed off and he's just he's part of the problem he's in you know he doesn't he take a pack money and all of it's like all of it and all the same clubs and groups that all these republicans are in it's the same it's it's It's the democratic version of what Trump is.
15:59He's exactly like Trump, but he's like, hey, we're not going to dismantle gay marriage and we think women should have the right to choose. But other than that, when you're carrying the water for big tech, which needs to be completely regulated, I mean, the government's position with dealing with this AI monster that is looming should be one of more Bernie Sanders. Like let's moratorium, let's investigate, let's have regulations on this new technology. But instead, they're just racing to grift off of it. And it's so devastating when you realize, and I think a lot of Americans have, you've before, long before I ever did, listener, but I think a lot of Americans since Kamala lost have been really disgusted with the Democratic Party's ruling class.
16:55and how patronizing they treat their voters. And I think Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries both do this. I think we need new leadership. I think that if there is a blue tsunami, I think there should be a revolt in both the Senate and the House. And put somebody in there who isn't taking corporate PAC money. I don't think that's controversial. I do not think that's radical. I think it's far more radical for Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries to be taking money from AIPAC and taking money from big tech and taking money from big oil, et cetera, and then looking us in the camera and saying, hey, I'm fighting for you.
17:34It's like, no, you're not. It's the exact same thing. Now, he's more aligned with our policies. He's not on true social, tweeting 30, 40 tweets from 2 to 5 a.m. about crazy batshit stuff. But in many other ways, he's just like Donald Trump. He's part of that same club, the same problem. Yes, he's more aligned with us. He's more empathetic toward the causes that we like. But the guy has failed in his leadership for the Democrats. Nobody can look at the Democrats and say for the past three, four or five years, they've had good leadership. That's fucking insane. That's crazy. nobody's gonna look at those two and go man they've really fought for us what badasses right they have stood for us when it wasn't popular it's gonna be like they said they would write a real mean letter that's what that's you know that's the kind of we get from this guy get him out out i agree all right that's all we have like subscribe do all the stuff pre-order my book not today fascists we are in like a month countdown the pre-orders helped me immensely and we'll be back later with more news.
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