In short
The hosts argue Trump is humiliating and scapegoating allies while mishandling the Iran deal and broader foreign policy, including alleged callousness about the strike on Iranian schoolgirls and praise of Xi and Putin.
Guests/backgrounds
No named guests appear in the transcript. Speakers reference “Kylie” (likely a co-host/producer) and “Howard Lutnick” (an interviewee/guest mentioned by name), described as a wealthy businessman with ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
Key claims
Trump privately pushed Rupert Murdoch to compare JD Vance vs. Marco Rubio, then publicly praises Vance while undermining Rubio. Rubio is allegedly kept from press access (media silence) to limit accountability. The Iran deal is portrayed as disastrous and enabling Russia/China/Iran, with Iran allegedly using psychologists to flatter Trump. Trump’s comments on the schoolgirls strike are framed as dismissive and morally perverse. Pete Hegseth is predicted to be blamed for war-crimes investigations, with claims that civilian-death investigation capacity was dismantled.
Notable examples
Murdoch dinner anecdote; Trump’s “credit if it works, blame JD if it doesn’t” Iran-related framing; Rubio standing behind Trump with no microphone; Trump thanking Xi and Putin for “neutrality”; Trump’s response about the Iranian schoolgirls strike; meme about “Department of War” replacing civilian-death investigations.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Leadership Challenges
0:00 to 4:00
Explore the fissures within Trump's presidency and his treatment of cabinet members.
“Trump's presidency has fissures all through it.”
Murdoch's Comparisons and Trump's Reactions
4:00 to 8:00
Discussion of Trump's insecurity and reactions to comparisons made by Murdoch.
“So to me, I think he has hated Marco and Marco's presence from the jump.”
Marco Rubio's Diminished Role
8:00 to 12:00
Analyzing Marco Rubio's role and humiliation within the Trump administration.
“thank China, President Xi, I was with him, and he stayed neutral, totally neutral, and I appreciate it.”
The Impact of Trump's Foreign Policy
12:00 to 13:30
Discussion on Trump's foreign policy decisions and their implications.
“This president has gone out of his way to intentionally plunder the lives of the citizenry, of the very people who voted for him.”
The Impact of Trump's Foreign Policy
13:34 to 14:00
Discussion on Trump's foreign policy decisions and their implications.
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Trump's Response to Iranian Schoolgirls Strike
14:03 to 14:49
Learn about Trump's reaction to a sensitive question regarding the strike on Iranian schoolgirls.
“And as he answers this, I want you to remember all of the MAGA imagery all over the United States of America that is infused with Christianity.”
Analyzing Trump's Justifications
14:50 to 15:18
Explore Trump's justifications during a controversial discussion about the war.
“and as you know that's under investigation.”
Marco Rubio's Role in the Iran Situation
15:19 to 16:03
Discuss Marco Rubio's indirect involvement in the Iran deal as Trump drags him along.
“But I know it's under investigation and I could have a report for you tomorrow.”
Pete Hegseth and the Messaging Opportunity
16:04 to 16:56
Examine how Pete Hegseth's actions create messaging opportunities for Democrats.
“There's such a messaging opportunity for Democrats with Pete Hegseth because out of all of the cabinet members, Pete Hegseth is incredibly religious.”
The Reputational Damage from Trump's Leadership
16:57 to 18:00
Understand the generational damage Trump's leadership style inflicts on society.
“The worst thing about Trump is he's given people a permission structure to cave to their worst impulses.”
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Critique of Pete Hegseth's Department of Defense Changes
18:01 to 18:22
Learn about the significant changes Pete Hegseth made to the Department of Defense.
“I saw online this meme going around and it said secretary or Pete Hex has changed the Department of Defense to the Department of War.”
The Republican Party's Shift in Values
18:23 to 18:59
Explore how the Republican Party's values have evolved under Trump's influence.
“You know, I mean, it's just these guys are all hat, no cattle, but they're also sadistic.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04It's happening in real time. Trump's presidency has fissures all through it. The cabinet, he is blaming everybody, throwing everybody under the bus. He makes zero sense, except when he's implicitly blaming somebody that he hired to work for him for something that he effed up. Bombshell reporting from Haberman Swan book popped this up. Axios President, wait, sorry, God, I'm sorry, you guys. Axios is reporting that President Trump asked Rupert Murdoch at a private dinner last year to compare Vice President Vance to Secretary Marco, oh my God, let me start this whole part over. Axios is reporting President Trump asked Rupert Murdoch at a private dinner last year to compare Vice President Vance to Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
0:58And with Vance and Rubio sitting awkwardly at the table, Murdoch was notably more effusive to Rubio. Trump, what do you think of JD? Rupert Murdoch says, well, I think JD has the potential to be great. Trump, and what do you think of Marco? Murdoch answered immediately, Marco is brilliant. So here's the thing. Trump cannot sit there and allow somebody to praise Marco without personally taking that as, oh, you think I'm not brilliant? That's not who we're dealing with here. I know we should think the president of the United States would be a big boy and be like, isn't it great? Didn't I pick a great secretary of state?
1:43That's not what we're doing. So he loves the rat fucking of JD. He loves it. But Marco Rubio, I told you guys about a month ago, I was on Marco Rubio watch, and it is happening. Buckle your seatbelts. I have video evidence of the whole thing. Let's roll. Here is Trump on the Iran deal that has MAGA and the hard right Israel lobby spiraling. They are spiraling out of control. Play this clip. Element to this where you send the vice president. If it works out great, you look like a genius for sending him. And if it doesn't work out, it's the vice president. I like that idea. Sure. Well, this way, if it works out, I'm going to take the credit.
2:26If it doesn't work out, I'm blaming JD. You better be careful, JD. He was going to do that anyway. Pop that back up. Then I want to get your take, but I want to point out something. Kylie, if you'll pop up them standing there. Right before we started this episode, I googled what is Howard Nutlick's height? What is Marco Rubio's height? because i too like to be petty but i want to point out to everybody i'm not the president of the united states howard letnik is 5 9 which i think that probably tracks it says rubio it says marco rubio is 5 11 which as you can see there's not that much of a disparity but most importantly the president has been lying for a very long time that he is six foot three clearly he is not six foot three.
3:13I am 5 '10". My husband is six foot three. He towers over me. Towers. Even in heels, he's taller. Here's the thing. I don't believe football players notoriously, if they say they're six foot one, you take two inches off in their bios. Howard Lutnick is probably my height and Marco Rubio, much the same. Remember in Congress when he was going for the State of the Union? Here's the thing about Trump. Here's my question for you. He's rat-fucking J.D. every chance he gets. He knows this deal with Iran is just disaster city. But hasn't he been rat-fucking Marco Rubio from jump? Because as the Secretary of State, he's not been involved in any of this.
3:57He sent Kushner. He sent Wyckoff. So to me, I think he has hated Marco and Marco's presence from the jump. been every single day as an exercise in humiliation for Marco because he has done no duties. I mean, Caroline Levitt went on maternity leave and Marco Rubio is conducting like press briefings at the White House. The situation with Marco Rubio is he's needed because he's the only person in the regime that understands how government works because of his time as a senator. But you were correct in your observation that he has been humiliating Marco, the shoes that Marco Rubio still wears that are three sizes too large for him.
4:37He hasn't exchanged them. He hasn't bought a larger pair. I just saw on X the other day, he was still wearing them. Somebody zoomed in. There was like a gap this big. But he is setting everybody up in his regime to take the fall. And the cult is fine with this. They have no issue with this. Here's a video of Trump publicly insulting Marco Rubio's intelligence. Play the clip. Every time we talked about the possibility of peace, the stock market shot up like a rocket ship. It never went down. They didn't like it. The people, you know, the stock market is more brilliant than anybody there is, including the people on this stage other than me, of course.
5:19OK, pause it right there. Go back just a little bit, Kylie. Of course, Howard Letnick is just like a trained SEAL. He sits there and claps and applauds at everything that Trump does. Of course, Howard Lutnick is a lot richer now. He has been he's received impunity from the Jeffrey Epstein involvement. He was in business with Jeffrey Epstein per the last dump. So this guy has, you know, tethered himself to Trump as to get rich and to dodge accountability in the Epstein files and business dealings with Jeffrey Epstein. Look at Marco's face right there. He is humiliated. Having Marco stand up behind him when everybody knows, particularly the neocons in the Republican Party, look at this.
6:03They know that Marco knows better. They knew that Marco knew better when he was over there meeting in Alaska with Vladimir Putin. They knew all of that. And so he is always positioned behind him. But here's what's interesting about this entire thing. Marco Rubio is the Secretary of State. The Secretary of State should be speaking to the press as much or just a little bit less than the president is. Pop this up. Marco Rubio's two day absence, secretary's media silence is a flashing red sign. Trump's Iran deal stinks. weeks. So he is humiliating Marco because everybody knows the Secretary of State would talk about the nuances and the minutia of such a deal.
6:53And the president would kind of announce it and then the Secretary of State would take questions from the press. Well, Marco would, because the press sane washes and coddles Donald Trump and doesn't ask him hard hitting questions, Marco would probably not be afforded that same luxury. And the people in the White House press corps would ask him more hard hitting questions because they're not scared of Marco, but they're scared of Trump. So the rat fuck is this. He has Marco standing back there and put these images back up, Kylie. Look at Marco's face. This man knows better. He is completely defeated.
7:28He knows that Donald Trump got dog walked by Vladimir Putin on that day back in Alaska. He just got dog walked by the Iranians. He's aware that the Iranians hired psychologists and psychiatrists and they played donald trump like a fiddle just like vladimir putin did all right now pumps get a load of this apparently as we all know this man is a known teetotaler he doesn't drink his brother fred was an alcoholic and he said he never touched the stuff i feel like he sounds drunk here but i also think he could be the dementia play the clip i want to thank China, President Xi, I was with him, and he stayed neutral, totally neutral, and I appreciate it.
8:14And I want to thank Vladimir Putin. He was very neutral. They could have made it much more. And I want to thank Vladimir Putin. He's really neutral. He could have made it hard. This is the type of stuff that has just been so normalized and sandwiched. The Republican Party of two or three years ago, even 24 months ago, they would have lost their mind that an American president was thanking Xi and Vladimir Putin for not assisting Iran more. So here's the thing that I think. We know that Xi and Putin are somewhat more so aligned with the Iranians than anybody else in this deal. So when Iran brought in the shrinks, we can also assume that Vladimir Putin shared intel.
9:04This is what worked for us. She said, this is what works for us. It's important to understand that Vladimir Putin and she are defeating America without firing a weapon, without spending any money militarily. We are getting outmaneuvered here because we have elected a man. And when I watch this president do this, I'm not even mad at him anymore. This is 100 % on the Republicans in the House and in the Senate. This is also on the press. This is a gift. Watching him dismantle the power, the superpower that was the United States that prevented Russia from doing the things that they wanted to do that was hard, difficult to negotiate with China.
9:52Trump is doing all of their work for them. All they had to do, they never had to fire a weapon. All they had to do was hire psychologists. And Marco Rubio knows it. And that's where the rat fuck is going on. And the neocons and the diplomats within the Republican Party that aren't just completely in the cult, they know it too. Well, but it's almost worse because Marco Rubio does know. He was the chair of the Foreign Intelligence Committee. He knows how bad this is for the United States. But he doesn't care because he thinks maybe I'll be president. And in my opinion, nobody walks away from this administration clean.
10:29I just want to make a point. You know, we know Trump lies all the time. Russia was giving air bases and location of the United States and their troops in Iran. So to say neutral is not true. And nobody has benefited other than Iran with this new deal. But China has formed alliances with the EU that they didn't have. Sanctions have been lifted off of Russia. This, everybody, all dictators, including Trump, who is a wannabe dictator and his oligarchs, they're the ones profiting from this. Russia, China, Iran, the United States is the one losing everything. And it is I don't honestly, sometimes I lay awake in bed and think, well, my great green kids, well, will the United States have recovered or is this just who we are now forever?
11:23Well, I think I think the country is permanently altered from this. The after Trump, there's going to be the neocons, the Marco Rubio sect, the Nikki Haley. I promise she'll make an emergence. We want to go back to the party of Reagan. You're going to hear all that bullshit. And the Democrats, the corporate Dems are going to be like, we want to go back to normal. There is no normal. Our normal incubated this. We have to have a radical change. And it's either going to be radically changed more as a fascist country and go the way of Russia, or the progressive wing of the Democratic Party can radically change it and start to deliver materially for the American people.
12:03This president has gone out of his way to intentionally plunder the lives of the citizenry, of the very people who voted for him. And our alliances are a joke right now. And our adversaries, Donald Trump, he has been played like a fiddle. All they had to do was hire a couple of psychologists to tell them how to flatter this guy to get what they need. and they didn't have to spend any money doing it. Listener, when people hear that Mint mobile plans are only$15 per month, a lot of people wonder, what's the catch? Well, I can tell you from firsthand experience, there just isn't one. There are no gimmicks and no gotchas, just unlimited talk, text, and data, fast, reliable coverage on the nation's largest 5G network and an award-winning care team.
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14:33They killed little girls because in that form of Christianity, it's so perverse that only certain lives matter to them and little brown skinned Iranian school girls don't. So watch his callous answer here. Play the clip. On the first day of the war. No, if it was a fault. and as you know that's under investigation. It's such a strange question to be asked at this state. I was talking about a long time ago, but nobody did that on purpose. I guess you'd have to say about them, what about the thousands of soldiers that they blew up when they opened their car door? What about the thousands of people that were killed by Iran?
15:16No mistakes are made. The war is nasty. But I know it's under investigation and I could have a report for you tomorrow. I would ask Pete Hegseth that. Here's the deal. He'd ask Pete Hegseth that. So here's in summary. We have Marco Rubio, who is a witness to all of this, and Trump is dragging him around noticeably, point position right behind him, but not allowing him a microphone so that it gives the impression Marco is 100 % in on this Iran deal. J.D. Vance is out trying to sell it. And so J.D. Vance is getting directly rat fucked. Marco Rubio indirectly. And then when it comes to war crimes, Pete Hegseth, they're going to blame Pete Hegseth, which here's the deal.
16:05There's such a messaging opportunity for Democrats with Pete Hegseth because out of all of the cabinet members, Pete Hegseth is incredibly religious. I mean, he talks to the troops about, you know, you need to convert to Christianity. You need to get saved. His pastors are whack jobs. But he's also this pro-death, pro-murder guy. He's like an Old Testament, genocidal kind of maniac, hellfire damnation. And so this, they are wrapping up gifts for Democrats moving forward as far as the messaging goes, as far as the reputational damage and all of these lives lost for this guy. I mean, that's going to be a stain on America forever because it really embarrasses me.
16:49It embarrasses me to share a country with the 77 million people didn't know better because I think they did know better. The worst thing about Trump is he's given people a permission structure to cave to their worst impulses. And as human beings, we need leaders that help us defer and pause and cave to our best impulses to think things through. And that is the reputational and generational damage of this guy, in my opinion. No, I completely agree with you. I think that Trump will never take accountability, just the flippancy with which he talks about death. And I just want to point out, I know I've said it 15 million times, Pete Hexas dismantled the department in the Department of Defense that goes in and investigates civilian deaths.
17:39There is no investigation because he shut down the department that does that. The Department of Defense and Pete Hexas have not answered regarding this investigation. So for Trump to say, I'll get you an answer tomorrow, it's complete bullshit because they're never going to answer for it because the only answer is we committed war crimes. That's it. That's the answer. So I completely agree with you. And it just it enrages me. I saw online this meme going around and it said secretary or Pete Hex has changed the Department of Defense to the Department of War. He changed his title from the secretary of defense to the secretary of war starts one war loses.
18:22Yep. You know, I mean, it's just these guys are all hat, no cattle, but they're also sadistic. I mean, they're really, really twisted, sadistic people. And of course, Trump is standing up there thanking Xi and Vladimir Putin. And the Republican Party used to be like they would really they used to care about the country and about the military and about American exceptionalism and being, you know, this badass force. That's I mean, that ship has sailed. All right. Really uplifting news this morning. Make sure you like subscribe and we'll be back later.
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