In short
The episode argues that the Trump White House is panicking over Melania Trump’s potential leverage, allegedly tied to Jeffrey Epstein. Guest Michael Wolfe is cited as claiming staff fear Melania’s unpredictability after her Epstein-related denial. The host further alleges a long-term power shift: Trump once had power over Melania, but now she may “know secrets” and could retaliate. Notable examples include Melania’s alleged Epstein address, her New York-based lifestyle, and claims about bedroom arrangements in the White House residence. The episode then pivots to a State Department “blacklist” of 43 Americans and groups, naming Zoran Mamdani, DSA, Hasan Piker, and Amy Goodman, framed as First Amendment suppression. It also discusses Michigan’s Senate primary (Haley Stevens vs. Abdul Al-Sayed), claiming AIPAC and donors Paul Singer and Jan Korn back Stevens, with a strategy to keep a red seat. No guests are clearly identified by name in the transcript.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Control and Melania's Power
0:30 to 0:44
Discussion on Donald Trump's behavior towards his cabinet and the fear surrounding Melania Trump.
“Donald Trump loves to humiliate and dick over everybody in his cabinet.”
Melania's Unpredictability in the White House
0:44 to 2:12
Exploring the fear White House staff have regarding Melania Trump's potential to go rogue.
“So besides Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu, who has the compromise?”
The Shifting Power Dynamics
2:12 to 4:05
Analyzing the changing power dynamics between Donald Trump and Melania Trump.
“But then let's expand on that, that here you have Donald Trump, a popular real estate tycoon back when he met Melania in New York City.”
Melania's Grifting and Potential Betrayal
4:05 to 6:05
Discussion on Melania's potential to profit from her position and her past decisions.
“And that the house staff has told him, Hey, you know, the first lady wanted this there.”
State Department Blacklist and Free Speech
6:05 to 9:10
Coverage of a new State Department blacklist and its implications for free speech.
“Obviously, Melania is not doing it for America or for benevolent means.”
Corporate Influence in Politics
9:10 to 11:28
Examining the role of corporate interests in political campaigns and candidates.
“of this on cable news and in mainstream papers and there's nothing and this is the part they'll cover the reflecting pool.”
The Political Landscape in Michigan
14:00 to 15:48
Discusses the influence of MAGA donors on Michigan's blue senatorial seat.
“Because it's easier, it's more accessible.”
Darlene Graham's Candidacy Announcement
15:48 to 17:40
Explores Darlene Graham's announcement to run for Senate and critiques political motivations.
“So you're inclined to get in, or have you even made a final decision?”
Transcript
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0:43Angie Sullivan:Donald Trump loves to humiliate and dick over everybody in his cabinet. He enjoys it. It's his kink. So besides Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu, who has the compromise? Vermont. Who can dick over Donald Trump? Who is everyone fearful of in Washington, D.C.? It is Melania. Some bombshell reporting from the Daily Beast popped this up. White House panics over fears. Melania could go rogue. First Lady Melania Trump is the one force neither the president nor his staff can control in his administration, author Michael Wolfe writes. In a new column for a Substack Howl, Wolf wrote that White House staffers are terrified of Melania's unpredictability, especially after her Jeffrey Epstein bombshell address in which she denied having any sort of relationship with him.
1:38Angie Sullivan:We all remember that wackadoodle presser. Everybody in the White House is afraid of Melania Trump and her power. That is, if she chooses to use it. They largely think she won't, or at least won't use it so obviously enough to directly threaten the palace, but they can't be sure. At the same time, they think that the relationship between the president and his wife is probably at its lowest point since the Stormy Daniels trial, and that was very low. So think about this, just from the dynamics, power dynamics that we all know exist in relationships. But then let's expand on that, that here you have Donald Trump, a popular real estate tycoon back when he met Melania in New York City.
2:33Angie Sullivan:If we are to believe Melania's best friend, Amanda Ungaro, Melania was a hooker. and Jeffrey Epstein passed Melania on to Donald Trump. So he probably had all of this power over her for years and years and years and years. And I'm sure she fucking resented it. How could you not? You're married to him. He's screwing a porn star. You know, I mean, you have to deal with his, you know, blowhard bullshit about how great he is. And she's like, God, this, you know, I knew I wanted to be a rich American wife, but I didn't know if I wanted it this bad. Well, he decides to go into politics and she knows where all the bodies are buried.
3:12Angie Sullivan:And she could completely rat fuck him beyond all comprehension. So the power dynamic where it once was Trump had the power over Melania, that has switched. And it makes perfect sense that everybody in the White House would walk around on eggshells because she knows that she knows all of the secrets. and she's probably like, look, I'm just crazy enough to use it if you do not stay in line. That's my take. I agree with that. What's what was interesting about this article? What and a couple others that I've read recently that in the private residence of the White House in the first term, Trump let her have the big bedroom and pick out all the, you know, whatever she wanted, she got.
3:58And now the things that she's placed there, he's taken into his little room and he's rat holing it. And that the house staff has told him, Hey, you know, the first lady wanted this there. He's like, I don't give a shit. By all accounts and reporting, she's really full time in New York city. She's not in the white house. And that all of the Trump kids are on the tit. Without Donald Trump, they would be nothing. Without his name, they would be nothing. The difference is Melania's highest level, I mean, she's grifting just like the rest of them. Don't get me wrong. But she could go out on her own and stick it to Donald Trump.
4:41And that would be her most ability to make money and continue the grift if she came out and just said, here's the deal. The kids are never going to do that because if Donald Trump goes, they go. That's it. Full stop. And so here's my thing. I thought when she was going to write a book, I was like, write a tell-all. Sell it for$100 million. People will buy that all day long. Instead, she did this book with all her pictures that's so stupid that nobody liked. Same with the film. So do I think that there is one single shred of an ounce that Melania Trump will have courage and stand up for what's right and good?
5:23Fuck no. This deal, she's going to continue to grift just like she always has. She's going to continue to get more money from him in her prenup and Barron's trust, as reported, if he wants her to do something she doesn't want to do. And we're going to go on, wash, rinse, repeat to the end of time.
5:38Angie Sullivan:And I just want to add to that, that the kids are no longer on the tit. Trump has set them up through insider deals to where now they are billions of dollars richer. Jared Kushner and thus Ivanka Trump, billions of dollars richer. Tweedledee and Tweedledipshit, aka Dumb and Dumber Trump, are billions of dollars richer. Baron Trump is hundreds of millions of dollars richer. his grifting has extended beyond that and melania as we all know received 40 million dollars for a piece of shit documentary but i think that trump and melania have a lot in common as trump likes to hold compromise or information over people melania gets off on holding this over donald trump a part of me understands that if i had something over donald trump and i could torture him and I was the one person that could do it, I would do it.
6:33Angie Sullivan:I would do it for the team. I would do it for America. Obviously, Melania is not doing it for America or for benevolent means. She's doing it for her own. But I think she gets off on it. I think she enjoys it just the way Trump loves humiliating these billionaires that are in his cabinet or these billionaire oligarchs that have come in and kissed the ring. But as all of this is going on and as juicy as it is, these stories, the reflecting pool, the plane, the arch, the tearing down of the East Wing, all of those are sideshows. All of those are distractions as to what this regime is up to. In the State Department yesterday, and this is not being covered by corporate news, Ken Klippenstein is the only person who's really broken this and expanded his reporting on this.
7:22Angie Sullivan:But the State Department has released a blacklist of Americans after Rubio's left-wing terrorism event. Pop this up. New State Department report on foreign subversion is a virtual government blacklist that names 43 Americans plus domestic organizations, including Zoran Mamdani, a democratically elected politician, the DSA, Hassan Piker, and Amy Goodman of Democracy Now. And that's just four of the 43. three. This is everything that MAGA, the don't tread on me. This is everything that they screamed about in the right wing media ecosystem. These are the things that they are breaking. This is the propaganda.
8:11Angie Sullivan:This is the fascist, the fascism that they are injecting into the government. This is a massive story. It should be on the cover of the New York Times. It should be on the cover of the Washington Post that the United States government, State Department, under Marco Rubio, is listing, making a blacklist of Americans that are exercising their First Amendment rights, that are critical of the United States, that are critical of capitalism, that are critical of Marco Rubio, that are critical of United States and Cuba foreign policy. Get over it. Tough titties. You guys are so soft. Either you believe in the First amendment and you believe in having a free country and you believe in free speech or you're a little fascist dictator little marco this is such a massive story it infuriated me i read the entire reporting yes last night from ken klippenstein and then this morning expected to wake up and see more of this on cable news and in mainstream papers and there's nothing and this is the part they'll cover the reflecting pool.
9:23Angie Sullivan:We started off this episode talking about Melania, all of that stuff, juicy, whatever, who gives a shit. We can fix all of it. This is the stuff that is really tearing our country apart. And this is the fascism. This is it right here. I completely agree. And here's the thing. Marco Rubio, a secretary of state is completely out to lunch. He doesn't give a shit. You know, Wyckoff and J.D. Vance and Kushner, they're the ones doing all the negotiating. He's running out to WWE fights with Trump. And now he's collecting people that are enemies of the state with whom are popular with the people and that he profoundly disagrees with.
10:10All this is, is trying to subvert the First Amendment. And here's the deal. Where's Elon Musk? He is a free speech absolutist, but he's not coming to their aid because at the end of the day, when you hear MAGA say, we are for free speech, it means as long as your speech is what we believe. If your speech is what you believe, that's different than ours, despite the fact that it is protected, we are going to go after you for that. And that is some fucking crazy shit. And like you said, it's just straight up authoritarian fascism.
10:47Angie Sullivan:Yeah, this is this is they will keep expanding this. This is why we need a robust press that isn't executing corporate needs, but it's actually doing journalism and exposing and shining a light on this. And the fact that these corporations and that the submissive MAGA men are so terrified of Donald Trump, I think E. Jean Carroll recently said, it's amazing that people are so scared of this senior citizen that wears an orange face of makeup, swirls his hair around, can't walk in a straight line and rambles on about Hannibal Lecter. Think about how broken and soft these people are. But you guys, this is something I've got to put on everybody's radar that is equally as concerning to me, as is the State Department blacklist.
11:33Angie Sullivan:These are the things that are incredibly important that we talk about. The Michigan senatorial primary race between Abdul Al-Sayed and Haley Stevens. In Haley Stevens, you have a corporate-backed Democrat. and in Abdul, you have a grassroots America first populist style candidate. Okay, I think we're going to see this pop up all the time. Let's let the voters decide what they think. Here's the thing. AIPAC has raised over$50 million, donated$50 million to Haley Stevens, and they're spending in excess of$50 million. I think I saw that Abdul is being outspent 19 times over. And so who is funding Haley Stevens?
12:23Angie Sullivan:Well, we know AIPAC is. Who else does AIPAC fund? Donald Trump. So I ask you, listener, I ask you, how can Haley Stevens be an opposition party candidate when she's taking money and or the same people that want to keep Donald Trump and the oligarchs in power that are making blacklists of American citizens? How can she be an effective senator for the opposition if she's taking and or the same corporations are spending money on her? Well, it gets worse. It gets worse than what I just described. Pop this up. Two of Trump and the GOP's biggest donors, Paul Singer and Jan Korn, are the largest individual donors to the super PAC backing Haley Stevens over Abdul Al-Sayed in the Democratic Senate primary in Michigan.
13:22Angie Sullivan:So, okay, we got two MAGA donors that are desperately trying to put a spear in Abdul Al-Sayed's senatorial run. Well, what's going to happen if they're successful and Haley Stevens hypothetically beats Abdul Al-Sayed in the primary? What happens next? What do these good old MAGA donors do? Do they go all chips in on the blue candidate? it? No, they'll back the MAGA red guy. And this is why the Supreme Court has fucked us so hard, because so many people are not going to get this message. Why? Because they watch and read corporate news. Because it's easier, it's more accessible. And they are not going to understand that Haley Stevens is backed by MAGA donors.
14:13Angie Sullivan:All of this is a diabolical machination to control what could be and should be a blue senatorial seat by MAGA to make sure, one, they KO Abdul, and then two, if Haley Stevens beats him, then they KO her, and then voila, we have a red seat. And, you know, here's what's interesting about that. You're not seeing Democrats coming out and Democratic establishment leaders coming out and supporting him as a candidate against Haley Stevens. At least I'm not. Maybe they are, but I don't think they are. And they're they're doing that because they also have the same corporate donors. And just one other comment, the reason corporate news is not on Marco Rubio's blacklist is because they've already appeased Trump.
15:09They've already bent the knee. He gets this kind of coverage. It's all in a vacuum where people aren't going to know the truth. And it's really sad. And you say it all the time that the opposition party is controlled by the same people that are controlling them. And it's such an accurate point, but you're not hearing that on mainstream media. So I appreciate that you continue to bang that into our heads because it's so important.
15:33Angie Sullivan:And then finally, Lindsey Graham's sister, Darlene, I have no idea what her experience is, is now a United States Senator. And now she's making a new announcement. Let's play the clip. They have worked for almost 30 years for the people of this state. I want to talk about that in a minute. I feel like I can do it. I feel an inner peace about it. Will it be difficult? Yes, absolutely. So you're inclined to get in, or have you even made a final decision? I've made a decision. You're in. Yeah, I'm in. Sure, fine. Why not? I mean, yeah. Senator Darlene, let's, I mean, fuck it. I mean, at this point, who gives a shit, right?
16:21Angie Sullivan:You know? Darlene, Senator Darlene, let's. let's fucking go i mean are you kidding me i mean then there's fox you know trying to slurping and made the decision are you in she's like i'm in like the fucking get a hook hook out sean hannity hook darlene out let people who give a and who don't kiss the ass of rich people get in power we need incorruptible people who are not just so razzle dazzled by somebody who has a big bank account. I know a lot of people with big bank accounts. And guess what? Guess what psychologists have proven in studies? People that are at the extreme wealth, like one percenters or 0.001 percenters have the same level of dysfunction of those living in abject poverty.
17:13Angie Sullivan:There's hardly any difference in the way they function in society. And so why are you kissing the ass of somebody who has proven to be an exploiter and an incredibly dysfunctional person. Are there wealthy people who are fantastic? Of course there are. I'm not saying that. But the people whose ass Sean Hannity kisses and fucking Senator Darlene, you know, these are not good people. These are not our best foot forward. All right. That's all we have. Like, subscribe, do all this stuff. We'll be back later.
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