Trump's Secret Relationship with Aide Exposed, Melania & Staffers Sound The Alarm

29 Jun 2026 · 17 min · 8 chapters

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The episode claims Donald Trump has an unusually close, possibly romantic or caretaking relationship with White House aide Natalie Harp, citing reports of frequent outings (including golfing at Trump’s course) and late-night access to his private quarters at Mar-a-Lago. Hosts argue Harp’s fixation is unhealthy and potentially dangerous, pointing to claims that her own brother called the relationship “unhealthy” and that the Secret Service warned she could be a danger to herself and the president. They also allege Melania Trump is alarmed by Harp’s boundary-pushing. Notable examples include Harp leaving gushing “love letters” and a reported video mocking the Obamas. Guests discussed: Natalie Harp (aide), Melania Trump (spouse), Harp’s brother, Susie Wiles (future chief of staff), Alex Eisenstadt (reporter), Maggie Haberman/Jonathan Swan (reporters), Katie Miller (defender), Laura Loomer (Trump associate).

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Trump and Natalie Harp's Relationship

0:14 to 1:16

Discussion on Trump's aide Natalie Harp and her obsession with him.

“Okay, so we've talked about Natalie Harp.”

Concerns About Harp's Mental State

1:16 to 3:24

Exploration of the unhealthy dynamics surrounding Trump's aide and the implications.

“Well, one other thing that I wanted to say, I saw someone tweeted and they said, people are saying that she's his mistress.”

Melania's Reaction to Harp

3:24 to 6:15

Discussion on Melania Trump's feelings towards Natalie Harp and their interactions.

“Well, and this isn't someone that we should pity either.”

Secret Service Concerns

6:15 to 7:36

Examination of the Secret Service's views on Harp and her potential dangers.

“Yet, Melania isn't the only one who wants her out of the picture.”

Reactions from Trump Staff

7:36 to 12:28

Insights into how Trump's staff and others perceive Harp's behavior and its implications.

“Like if we removed her from the equation, it would be fine.”

Reactions from Trump Staff

12:39 to 12:52

Insights into how Trump's staff and others perceive Harp's behavior and its implications.

Katie Miller's Defense of Harp

12:52 to 14:01

Discussion on Katie Miller's defense of Natalie Harp and the implications of their relationship.

“And then just to end it with one more crazy person who should be 5150.”

Examining Trump's Close Aide Dynamics

14:01 to 16:30

Discussion on the implications of Trump's close relationship with a young aide and media's double standards.

“I mean, you have a 34-year-old woman that the Secret Service describes as a threat to herself and others.”
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0:04Ryan and Kylie have gotten some delicious gossipy tea for this episode and you're not going to want to miss it because it is juicy. Kylie, what's first step? Okay, so we've talked about Natalie Harp. This is the human printer, Trump's personal aide, just in love with Trump. So this weekend, Trump 80 spotted on a rainy day outing with BlondeAid34. And you're going to see that they went to his golf course together and they're out golfing, which is not the first time. We've been reporting this more and more and she's coming up more and more. And they're hanging out quite a bit. And so I thought we could kind of dive into some new information about her that's been coming out because I can not get enough of this story.

0:49I just want to put this out of everybody's head. Everybody's talking about how, oh, my gosh, there are a couple. This man cannot get a hard on. No. He can't get blood to his ankles. He cannot get blood to his dick. That's just an impossibility. I think a psychiatrist needs to get a hold of her. She has daddy issues out the gazoo. and then in this regime change book, I mean, she's just sycophant deluxe. What else do we know, Ryan? Okay. Well, one other thing that I wanted to say, I saw someone tweeted and they said, people are saying that she's his mistress. I think that she may be acting more as a nurse to him because he clearly needs someone to be following him around to make sure that he's physically able.

1:33Okay, so the Daily Beast over the weekend reported this story. White House aide Natalie Harp's obsession with Donald Trump has become so severe that her own brother has spoken out. And in this interview with the Daily Mail, Harp's brother called her relationship with the president very unhealthy and said that she's just a part of his fan club. So like sparks are flying within the family and raising concern about this relationship? Well, number one, I would argue that if you are in a relationship with Donald Trump, by virtue of his mental health deficiencies, his personality disorders, it's impossible to have anything other than an unhealthy relationship with him.

2:21The man is toxic. He demands strict loyalty. He gives no loyalty. I'm sure he loves her fawning over him. But I think, you know, this, this has been going on. I mean, the first time I heard about her was that his criminal trial where he was convicted of 34 felony counts, she made him books to say how great he was all the time. And that's where she got the name human printer. But clearly, she is in some type of advanced, like psychosis or something that she thinks he is so great. Because one thing you can count on Donald Trump to do is that some point, he will turn on you. He does to everyone. Now, we don't know if he'll turn on her, because he said that she loves him like his family.

3:08His family doesn't love him. Does he think Melania loves him? Cut me some slack. Everybody's afraid of him and the temper tantrums. This poor thing, I mean, she needs help. I agree. It's unhealthy because she's in relationship with Donald Trump. Eating relationship is unhealthy. But clearly, ugh. Well, and this isn't someone that we should pity either. This is the woman who reportedly posted the video of Barack and Michelle Obama's head superimposed on apes. So clearly she is racist. She is clearly just as bigoted as he is. And I think that's probably the reason that they're hanging out so much.

3:51Pumps, you brought up Melania. So Melania has also taken issue with Natalie. So this excerpt says, in his book, Revenge, the inside story of Trump's return to power, reporter Alex Eisenstadt described an awkward run-in between Natalie Harp and Melania Trump. He explained, quote, there was the time when a surprised Melania Trump stumbled upon Harp late at night in Trump's private quarters at Mar-a-Lago, an area that was typically off limits to those outside Trump's family. Harp didn't do well with boundaries, according to the reporter. Here's the thing. If I'm Melania and she's willing to be in there with him and try to get it up for him, which again, I think that's impossible.

4:37I say, let her have it. If you want to be with this man, I mean, clearly Melania hates his guts. I don't even think she lives at the White House. reports are she lives in new york city right she splits her time i believe between new york washington and mar-a-lago so we never really know where she is i would think she'd go in there and give her like a round of applause like you take the lady i don't want it i think that's what we're seeing happen though we're seeing her going golfing with him we're seeing her on these flights she went to the new york knicks game with him and you saw these late night photos in air force one of them together in the back like hanging out i think that melania doesn't want to go to with him and natalie's going to all of it with him she's filling that spot yeah and here's the thing let's not forget who he showed up with the debate to kamala harris who was in the plane with him who was this running buddy then laura loomer okay there's actually a little connection between them that i don't have fleshed out here so don't quote me exactly but do your own research listener so they both liberty they went to liberty university i believe natalie and laura and supposedly according to like online reports natalie is the way that laura gets into trump's ear like that's kind of the middle man supposedly originally at least so yeah there's a weird connection between those two that's like so yeah that's exactly what i would think would be going on in that group okay so even more on on natalie and how unhinged and how you're saying like this isn't just a cute little crush or a mistress this is someone who needs serious help even the secret service are concerned so the excerpt that we're reading goes on to say despite the questionable things about donald and melania's relationship it's clear why she dislikes harps boundary pushing fixation on her husband.

6:33Yet, Melania isn't the only one who wants her out of the picture. According to The Cut, the Secret Service called HAARP, quote, a potential danger to herself as well as to the president. However, according to Eisenstadt, senior White House aides know that they won't succeed in getting her fired. I mean, when you have the Secret Service reporting to, you know, being used as sources, that's a really bad sign. These are supposed to be the people who are most beholden no matter political party to the president the fact that they're sounding the alarm to these people at the cut that actually really says a lot about how it's kind of not just a joke that she may be an actual liability right the fact that they put in there she's a threat to herself and other that's like 51 50 language that's how that's threat to yourself or others is what gets you on a side cold.

7:33Here's the thing. I feel like though, in this article, they make it sound like she's the problem. Like if we removed her from the equation, it would be fine. Donald Trump is the fucking problem. He is the one that does all this shit. He is the one responsible for having Laura Loomer on his plane and this Natalie Harp. He finds the sickest broken people and brings them all together it's unbelievable i agree pumps if it weren't her it would just be someone else filling the void yeah i mean christy now pam bondy mark wayne molt they all kiss his ass because you can only be in his orbit if you're willing to kiss his ass also regime change pumps i know you're reading it right now has like expanded on a lot of this and they've talked about the personal notes that natalie leaves trump and i have a few it says some of them say you're the alpha and the omega the be all and end all what what would i be without you and one note left in her personal white house space read you are all that matters to me so like okay here's the thing if i'm her mother if i am her mother i get in my car i drive to dc I snatch her up by the hair and I take her for impatient therapy.

8:54She is unwell, particularly to be around a man as toxic. I mean, Donald Trump is an abuser on every level. He hates women by virtue of how he treats women. He's an adjudicated rapist. He obviously doesn't give a fuck about minors being, you know, sex traffic. I mean, this is not somebody you want your daughter around. Here's the deal. 34 felony counts. This is not someone I want my daughter around, especially if she's a threat to herself and others. Okay, moving on to Susie Wiles enters the chat. This article says, according to regime change, reporters Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan, Harp would leave gushing letters for Trump in his personal spaces, which we just talked about.

9:40And these string of love letters freaked out future White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, who asked herself, where am I? According to Haberman and Swan. And as fucked up as that whole administration is, for that to be so alarming to Susie Wiles, she says, where am I? We're living in the twilight zone 24-7. I just have a comment on Susie Wiles. She was going to keep out the riffraff. That was her job. When she took the chief of staff position, she was going to keep out the crazies. The fucking craziest one is at the top of the ticket. it. That's who the craziest one is. And if she thinks that her job was to keep the crazies out, I'm going to say mission failed.

10:21She did not succeed in this mission because these are the craziest bunch of motherfuckers I've ever seen in my life. Susie Wiles has been awfully quiet since that Rolling Stone report came out where she was exposed as a source, you know, blasting JD Vance's, a conspiracy theorist, or they published those awful pictures of yeah all the trump administration members where you could see i thought they were great you could see the injections in caroline levitt's lips i mean i don't trust this woman and you know the fact that she's asking that question she should be asking herself that question every day because what the is going on in this administration situation like where am I yeah good question where am I am I in the situation room trying to cover up cover up the fact that Trump is part of a sex trafficking ring as alleged in the Epstein files like it's so far off the rails she can't she can't go back she cannot go back summer is a great time of year because it's so flexible you get to do fun stuff you're not in the grind from work like you normally are but that means your health and nutrition can take a back seat because there's less structure and you're paying less attention to what you're eating.

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13:31We get to criticize. His own chief of staff is criticizing. So Katie, here's my advice to you. Shut the fuck up. worry about the joy, love and laughter in your life that this fourth child brought into it with you and the devil himself, Stephen Miller. Like, here's the thing. I'm with you, Kylie. If Katie Miller jumps to my defense, I know I'm fucked. I know I have fucked up beyond any measure because Katie Miller jumping to my defense is just tells me that I've jumped the Rubicon into too crazy. But here's the thing. Fox News isn't talking about this. I mean, you have a 34-year-old woman that the Secret Service describes as a threat to herself and others.

14:19Susie Wiles, her brother, everybody's saying it's unhealthy. Nobody talks about it. It's just like, oh, it's just normal. Can you imagine if Joe Biden was running around, like Jill was MIA and Joe Biden's running around with a 34-year-old woman? What would be going on in right-wing media? Wall-to-wall, Fox News. World War III. Yeah. World War III. Like they do not, this man, here's what I think. These institutions that cover Trump, the right-wing media, Fox News, they've given up him being a serious leader a long time ago. And now they're just in it for the money because these Republicans, they don't hold his feet to the fire.

15:02What would Mike Johnson, Mr. Family Values, Mr. Religion, I'm Moses, all that shit do if Joe Biden was banging it around with a 34-year-old. Can you imagine? It's such a good point, Pumps. And just in response to Katie Miller, the idea that the press can't report on one of the president's closest aides who's spending seemingly more time with him than almost anyone else late at night in the White House residence. I think it's so, it just shows the narcissism of these people. It's like, we're untouchable. You can't report on us. And if you do, we're going to call you out. Like, who do you think you are?

15:44You're the people running this country. And you think that, you know, we can't call you out on it. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Well, it's propaganda state. It's like authoritarianism 101. As Ruth Ben-Gert said, you have to surround yourself with bottom feeders. So you look good. and everybody has to talk about how great you are all the time because at the end of the day, Donald Trump is weak. He knows he's weak. He knows he's one foot in the grave. He knows his mind's gone. He is profoundly mentally ill. And this poor gal, there's not a psychiatrist or a psychologist, you know, from here, from if you started today with this woman and her daddy issues, you could probably go until I'm dead.

16:26And hopefully I've got another, you know, 25 years left in me. All right. That's all we have. Please join us later for more news. Don't forget to buy and pre-order Jennifer's book, Not Today, Fascist.

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