In short
The episode argues that MAGA/evangelical politics is hypocritical and harmful: it celebrates declining teen birth rates as “great news,” then criticizes anti-birth-control messaging from figures like Katie Miller (wife of Stephen Miller) and Fox News. The hosts claim anti-contraception rhetoric is sexual shaming, forces teen pregnancy via punitive laws, and reflects sexism (including the “virgin birth” idea). They also discuss racism, citing Congressman Brandon Gill’s rant about Indians working at 7-Eleven, and claim he’s a white nationalist hypocrite despite marrying into Indian family. They add that Trump’s orbit expects crimes and that Trump has promised pardons for staff, comparing it to post–Nuremberg accountability.
Notable examples
Katie Miller tweets, Brandon Gill/7-Eleven comments, Trump “big brother/little brother” Iran/Netanyahu remark, and John Ossoff’s corruption-focused messaging.
Guests
none; only co-hosts (“Pumps” and the other host) and referenced public figures (Katie Miller, Stephen Miller, Brandon Gill, Zai Jelani, JD Vance, LeBron James, Laura Ingraham, Benjamin Netanyahu, John Ossoff).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODeclining Teen Birth Rates: A Cause for Celebration?
0:46 to 2:16
Discussion on the declining teen birth rates and the response from MAGA Christians.
“Since 2007, the teen birth rate has fallen 72%.”
Sexual Shaming in the MAGA Movement
2:17 to 4:25
Exploration of the sexual shaming tactics used by the MAGA movement and their societal impact.
“And the messaging that they're so brazen with this now that teens need to get knocked up.”
Brazen Racism in Politics
4:26 to 7:10
Analysis of a racist rant by Congressman Brandon Gill regarding Indian workers and the hypocrisy behind it.
“going to say this, this is just a personal note.”
Trump's Promises and Political Hypocrisy
7:11 to 11:30
Discussion on Trump's comments regarding gas prices and his implications of power dynamics.
“I mean, I think sometimes, I think that's why the post from Jelani is so spot on, that it is, they're white nationalists, but his, you know, he likes dark-skinned women.”
Promises of Pardons: Trump's Legal Shield
11:31 to 13:57
Exploration of Trump's promises of pardons to his staff and its implications for democracy.
“And this broke, all this shit always breaks on Friday.”
Political Landscape for 2028
15:28 to 17:42
Discussion on potential candidates and political messaging for the upcoming elections.
“ask me, and I'm sure they do you pumps because we work in political commentating.”
Disenchantment with the Democratic Party
17:43 to 19:13
Expressions of disappointment with the Democratic Party's response to current political challenges.
“Yeah, it just always seems like it's a super disjointed response at all times.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04All right, the teen birth rate in the United States of America has declined. I think this is great news. MAGA Christians think it is terrible news and went to Fox News to complain about it. Play the clip. I have 3.6 million births a year, but the problem is teens and young adults. From ages 15 to 19, the fertility rate is down 7%, and it's down 70 % over the last two decades. Okay. And it gets worse from there. Five-star, world-class cunt extraordinaire Katie Miller, the wife of the most unfuckable Nazi on the planet, Stephen Miller, takes to Twitter and posts the following. Since 2007, the teen birth rate has fallen 72%.
0:56Hormonal birth control isn't just poison for women's minds and bodies, it's killing population growth. For the first time ever, birth rates for women in their late thirties has surpassed those in their early twenties. Our biological destiny is to have babies, not slave behind desk chasing careers while our civilization dies. And to that, I have to say, Katie Miller, go fuck yourself. I cannot wait for the day that your husband is in prison. I agree. I thought that teen birth rates being down would be a cause for celebration because we all know it leads to poverty and all kinds of other issues.
1:41And to sit there and act like Katie Miller was not a child mother at like 17 or 18. She is a full career woman. She worked for Elon Musk. She worked for the White House. Now she has the podcast that's absolutely horrific. But the deal is do not sit there and tell women they're required to have babies and not work when you are the biggest hypocrite on the planet. And here's the deal. I'm celebrating the birthright for teen moms being down. These people are fucking crazy. They're nuts. And the messaging that they're so brazen with this now that teens need to get knocked up. And let's just play the tape through.
2:29These teens get knocked up. They're shamed in their churches. They're shamed in their families. They're forced into these birthing situations because nobody's ever taught them about consent, birth control, et cetera. And then once they have these babies, the Katie Millers and whoever that crusty old guy was on Fox, tough titties. They're not helping you out with anything. They're not helping you with jack shit. It is a slut shaming technique that Republicans like to use. That's why they have psychologically piled on to this abortion thing because the entire evangelical MAGA Christian movement specializes in one feature, sexual shaming.
3:11They like to shame people for having sex or thinking about sex. And if you hear this from a very young age, your whole life, then you morph into hating the object of your desire, whether that be women or gay people or trans people. You see this hatred among MAGA people towards the object of their desire. For men that are heterosexual, they hate women because the women are the objects of their desire. So they want to engage in punitive laws that get them knocked up and label them. This is a whore that has had sex and therefore she is exposed to the world that she had sex before marriage, this teen mom.
3:58And so then when you go into all of these anti-gay Republican men, I don't think it's any surprise if you start deep diving into their Google search histories. we all know they probably fetishize gay porn or Grindr, etc. And so that's what's at play here. And that's why behind this MAGA movement, there's all of this weird sexual repression. And I'm just going to say this, this is just a personal note. I just think there's so much inherent sexism in the virgin birth story that if Mary had had sex, that somehow she would be sullied and unworthy of giving birth to a good person. And so when you look at that and see how that has trickled down in the Bible Belt states, all they talk about is no premarital sex and they shame sex so much.
4:54And this is the end result. You have all of these broken people that now want teenagers to have babies. But moving along, the racism in the MAGA movement is really disturbing. It's always been disturbing, but they're just getting more brazen. And this guy, I don't know how he got elected for anything. Not only is he an abject racist, he's dumb. Play the clip. The idea that we would bring in a 7-Eleven worker from India or anywhere across the globe into our country to work at a gas station because we can't find Americans to work behind the counter at a gas station. I mean, that's asinine. I mean, it's idiotic.
5:33And we all know it. Okay. Kylie, put up the photo of this Congressman Brandon Gill with his wife and in-laws. Okay. So for those of you that are listening, his in-laws are of Indian descent, his wife's of Indian descent. And he just went on a rant that we can't have people from India working at 7-Eleven. I mean, this is just gutter racism for sport. They just do this shit for sport. And what a message are you sending to like, I don't know if they have kids. I'm sure they probably do because MAGA is all about breeding as the previous article was. But here is Zai Jelani responding to this post. He says, truly bizarre statement from a man married to an Indian woman with Indian in-laws.
6:22Publicly, he preaches white nationalism, but in the bedroom, he's a third worldist, the racist version of the closeted gay pastor. chef's kiss that's perfect pumps is the dividing line money is i mean that's what i'm seeing over and over again if you're poor and brown we don't want you in the country but i because i'm special and i'm chosen i can marry an indian woman and be a complete fucking racist but her family has money? Or is it just, I'm a racist, I'm a hypocrite, I can do whatever the fuck I want. And I don't care about anybody, but myself and power. I mean, that I'm not being able to wrap my head around somebody, you know, fight against their own family.
7:15Yeah. JD Vance does this too. I mean, I think sometimes, I think that's why the post from Jelani is so spot on, that it is, they're white nationalists, but his, you know, he likes dark-skinned women. But at his core, he's a white nationalist. But money does not preclude people from racist attacks. I mean, I think LeBron James had somebody spray paint the N-word on his house. We all remember fame, talent, all of those things. Remember Laura Ingram telling him to shut up and dribble. So it's the same thing as that viral rant I had pumps that these people, these white nationalists, they enjoy multiculturalism.
8:00Brandon Gill wants to be married to an Indian. Good for him. I don't give a shit. But at his core, he's also a white nationalist. So, you know, these people like to go to Mexican restaurants. They like to watch basketball. They want to watch football. They want to listen to music that black people sing in or Bad Bunny or whatever. But then at their core, they also want this white nationalism because they're so profoundly insecure. What do you think? Yeah, I think that's probably right because they feel so entitled. I am white, so I get to do whatever the fuck I want. And nobody's going to tell me anything because I'm white.
8:41And it really is so disturbing. The psychology of the women married to these men. That's what the interesting part is. These are the, I mean, racists are racists are racist, but the women that she sits there and poses with her family, with the white nationalists, that's what I'm fascinated by. You know, this reminds me of a anecdotal story. So, you know, this person I'm talking about, I'll tell you off camera, sorry, listener, But he's an attorney and he, his daughter, racist, clear racist, N-word the whole nine in Oklahoma City. His daughter has a mixed race baby and he loves this little grandbaby.
9:23And after this baby was born, he called it his little N-word baby. And so it's incredible how white people have, can hold both of those things at the same time. Being complete racist, yet loving parts of black culture. In Brandon Gill's case, he's Indian culture, which is wild that he goes on there and specifically calls out Indians working at 7-Eleven. It's so fucking crazy. Okay, moving along. Here is Trump over the weekend pumps on gas prices with friendly audience Maria Bartolom. Play the clip. We agree. So do you believe the price of oil and gas will be lower before the midterm elections?
10:07I hope so. I mean, I think so. It could be. It could be the same or maybe a little bit higher, but it should be around the same. I think this won't be that much longer. They're wiped out. They're wiped out. And you don't get the you don't get a fair shake. You don't get you know, we need we need a free and fair enough, enough, enough, enough. He also in this clip spoke about the war in Iran that, you know, Benjamin Netanyahu told me, we're the big brother and Israel's the little brother. And so just the flagrant nature of advertising, like I've told you guys, he is in his bedside confession era.
10:47And the fact that he's flagrantly saying what Benjamin Netanyahu told him privately is really, really a fascinating thing for me. Trump doesn't give a shit about gas prices, he doesn't have to fill up a tank. We fill up his tank. The American taxpayer pays for it. But these little dribblings of what these much smarter, much more organized fascist dictators like Benjamin Netanyahu say to him are really, really fascinating to me. You're the big brother. We're the little brother. What do you think about that, Pumps? Well, I think it shows what a cheap date Trump is. Like going into war and killing people and all you have to say is you're the big brother and I'm the little brother.
11:28Like, give me a fucking break. Give me a real compliment if I'm going to go to war for you. Yeah, I completely agree. Okay. And this broke, all this shit always breaks on Friday. And so on Friday, it broke that Trump is promising pardons to his staff. Pop this up. Oh my God. Okay. President Trump has repeatedly promised top administration officials pardons before he leaves office, according to people who have heard his comments. So, you know, after World War II, the Nuremberg trials, they had to come up with laws to try these people for the crimes. And I think if we are to ever have a democratic party that doesn't have members of it that are fascist collaborators that truly, truly believe that democracy is for the people, completely of the people, by the people, for the people.
12:27They would get power in these midterms and they would create a law that says, if you are committing a crime under the premise that the president promised to pardon you, that pardon is null and void. They need to get fucking serious about this. This whole pardon thing is so ridiculous. It is absolutely ridiculous. I think that we need such a revamping of the United States government, of the Supreme Court, of the United States Senate. Why the fuck does California have two senators and South Dakota has two senators? That's insane. It's utter insanity. Pumps. Well, I just see this as you and I were talking about it on Friday.
13:10Of course, we're not surprised. But what is interesting to me about the whole thing is every single person in Trump's orbit is expected to commit crimes. I mean, it's just this is what we do when you come to work for me. I swat you on the ass and you commit a crime for me. And I, for one, just believe this petty little man will not deliver on these pardons. Oh, I agree. I think they're little like dangled. I think it's a dangled thing at all times. and it should be a presidential ending story. This should end his presidency. So many things should end his presidency, but they don't. The media, you know, this just gets buried in a Friday news dump by the Wall Street Journal.
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15:21It's time to make laundry day the best day of the week. You know, I, people often ask me, and I'm sure they do you pumps because we work in political commentating. Who do you see as the front runner in 28? And I don't have a front runner. I have not seen somebody who is a front runner and I'm approaching the, uh, 20, 28 primaries with a complete open mind. We didn't get to have one last time. So complete open mind, whoever throws their hat in, put them on the stage, let them go on podcasts. Let's see who, um, who sinks and who swims. And somebody who I continue to see swimming right now is the, uh, Senator from Georgia, John Ossoff.
16:05And from time to time, he comes out and reminds us what politicians are supposed to sound like. Play the clip. Now I don't know if you saw but the president apparently promised pardons for the entire White House staff. Did y 'all see that? Which I guess is the kind of thing you do when you run the White House like a casino.
16:31Now maybe the West wings too busy placing calci and poly market bets on the war to care, but Americans are getting hurt, hurt by the illegal tariffs that send prices higher and higher. So I think that's really excellent messaging and he's definitely on my watch list for 28. I think that there are going to be people that come out that don't have as much reputational damage from the news cycles. And I really, so far, I like him when he comes out and speaks. I think he speaks to people where they are. And I think calling out corruption is going to be a huge winning item. We saw in Hungary last night, the person that won is a conservative.
17:24He's a center right guy, but he ran against corruption. And the Democrats are going to have to start speaking out more overtly on corruption all the time. And some do. Some definitely do. Some are a little patty cake-ish with the fascists, for my taste, pumps. Well, I think there's a charcuterie board of issues what you can go for in this election. Because you've got corruption. You've got war crimes. You've got domestic crimes. You've got ICE overstepping. Like, to me, the fact that there is not a unified democratic message all day, every day against this regime is just a complete flat ass disappointment because you have everything is on the table and we just don't have it.
18:09Yeah, it just always seems like it's a super disjointed response at all times. And I think for me, you know, I was heading into Trump 2.0. I'm like rah rah sis boom ba let's go Dems. I started to become disenchanted with the Democratic Party when I saw their response to Trump 2.0, when I saw the acquiescence, when I saw people voting for little Marco 99 and 0. When I saw that, that not one person stood up and go, look, I served with Marco in the Senate, but if he's willing to go work for an insurrectionist, I'm out. I'm completely out. That's not the guy I know. That's where I started becoming disenchanted.
18:48And then you find out Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries take money from Palantir and they take money from APAC. And then you realize these are the biggest donors to MAGA. Then you're just like, God damn it, fuck these guys. You know, so I'm hopeful that there is a progressive caucus out there that is really, really gaining some steam going on all sorts of shows. And so I hope that that continues to build momentum. All right. That's all we have. Like and subscribe.
19:18Thank you.
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