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21:36Craig Robinson:No, I know It's not an angry tear It's like Yeah, it's The appreciation for the energy Yes And Love in real time that a parent is giving Yeah As a child you overlook it You don't value it At the level that you should So it's not until kids get older, it's not until kids get older that you go, damn, right? Like I actually had the, I had the makeup around me. I had it. I had the machine around me. Yeah. And because it wasn't glamorous, because it wasn't the bells, the whistles, the cars, the big houses, the front yards, it was like, oh man, well, look at us. We're struggling. We're poor. We're this or that.

22:21Craig Robinson:Yeah. I also have the flip side of this as well, right? So like my dad was the opposite. And it's not glamorous. It's actually really bad. Like my dad was really like there was a lot of shit with my dad. Yeah, yeah. But if I didn't see it firsthand and I didn't see my dad battle with addiction, with, you know, the law, I mean. So he checked all the boxes. He checked. Name it. Name it. Name it. My dad, man. I mean, arguably the humor, the ability to have dark humor, light humor, it's my dad. Like an example of my dad, like I remember my mom's sister had passed away. And we're going to the funeral.

23:18And, you know, this is my mom's side, right? But, you know, a couple people had passed. Like this is like another sister of my mom's, like her mom, her dad, like, you know. The funerals are, they're happening. They're coming. They're coming fast. My dad is there. We get there. and we're like standing with the family, and my dad goes, they dropping like flies. I said, Jesus. It's like, too soon. Dad. Too soon. He looked around. I mean, come on now. Okay. Is that what it says to you? By the way, the worst health. My dad had the worst cancer. Right. He took his lung out. He battled with every level of COPD.

24:02I mean, you name it. My dad was supposed to be going years ago. Years ago. But he would show up.

24:08Craig Robinson:He's there counting flies. He kept surviving. I don't know how y 'all not kicking this stuff. I mean, man, you can't say this. I beat him. That's it. I beat that. He's wearing it like badges. Did I beat that? That one didn't get me. Cancer. Cancer. They tried it. Had me in there with the chemo. I told him to kiss my ass. I got out of there. I beat it. Y 'all didn't knock that? I mean, it was bad. So you've got your mom as this shining example on the one side and your dad as a different kind of example on the other side. The worst of it, yes. So what people talk about a lot today is raising young men to be good men.

24:54Yeah. My dad was very adamant about the stance of man. So... bullying and things like that when I was a kid. Like, yo, they messing with me or they're getting messed. Or I don't like that. They're picking on me down the street. My dad was the, come on. Where we going? We going down the street. You're going to go down there and whoever it was, you're going to handle your situation. I'm going to stand there. And win or lose, it doesn't matter. What matters to me is that you understand that you're not supposed to allow these things to happen. Whether I'm there or not, you have to respect yourself enough to want to see the best for yourself.

25:35So, you know, I can go to several street fights when I was younger. By the way, this is a different time of parenting. Like, we're a much different time where some of these things are frowned upon. But I can say the character that was built because of the things that my dad made necessary. And it was so out of the, so far out of the loop of what should be done. Everything my dad did, I would stand and argue. I think it was wrong. I can say I think it was wrong It was dangerous No, looking back at it My dad threw me off a cliff in a lake I was scared to jump He grabbed me, threw me off It's like, nope, nope, that wasn't a good move I'm in the lake treading He yelled down, see you fine No, I'm not No, I'm not You just scared the shit out of me I'm not comfortable in here But his approach the shock factor that it came with, it gave me a level of comfort with, like, things that will be, will be.

26:34Like, it is what it is. I don't care, like, my dad, we in a car. The car break down. All right, leave it apart. We're going to walk. Walk where? Home.

26:44Craig Robinson:We're in another state, Dad. We're going to walk home. We're going to walk. We're in a boat. Boat break down. All right, it's okay. We wait for somebody to come by, flag them down, get on their boat, take us in. Who do we know out here? We just wait. There you go, hey Let that one go by, they ain't stopping Get the next one Things that were bad were never that bad to him So my My I have such a simplistic like Stance to problems Like I don't talk about the problem Like there's got to be a solution When did you come to appreciate The wisdom that you were getting From your father I mean what you got from your mother was evident Yeah Right.

27:25Craig Robinson:But, you know, and I'm sure there's some tension to his approach, who he was, what he wasn't, who he wasn't to your mother. There were a lot of reasons to not see his wisdom. When did it start to, when did this clarity? When I realized that my dad Wasn't afraid to be honest about Any of his flaws My dad was very accountable Yeah I did it Yeah I wasn't There Your mother should have done what she done I was a piece of shit I did this I did that I was on drugs Kev I wasn't in the right frame of mind This story defines Kev I don't know if I told you this story We gonna hear it now You gonna hear it I also didn't know about the cliff Heaven's sitting there going Jesus This is gonna mess you up though about Grandpa Here we go It's not gonna mess you up It's like a real moment So my dad through like his craziest bout with drugs my dad disappeared from him And how old were you when this took place?

28:34I was 14, 15 Okay so Dad's gone Important time Yes Like I This is the time When my brother was Military Coming home Because my brother Was having problems Um And it's just me and my mom Right Like me and my mom My mom's Figuring it out My mom's got me In every extracurricular activity She's doing anything To keep me off the streets My brother was an example Of what can happen If you're on the streets I'm not gonna let that happen With you I got the iron fist It's about two years Since I've seen my dad Oh Right Like Yeah We So you don't know We don't know You don't know If he's alive or dead or what Well you hear Because at the time He was battling with drugs So you hear Stories about Your dad's been up on Right X, Y, and Z That's where the addicts are Like my brother was hearing things I'm on a train Subway Public transportation In Philadelphia And I'm sitting on a train And

29:35No way Is that my dad? No way. On the train. Yeah. Dad? 15 years old. I'm coming home from school. Doors open on the train. My dad looks at me dead in the eye. He looks bad, horrible. My dad ran off the train. About seven months after, me and my brother finding, checks him into rehab. My brother found out where he was. His reason for getting into rehab and doing everything because he was so hurt at what he looked like when I saw him at his worst. And he said he would rather go through life without seeing me again than me seeing him at his worst. So his road to getting back was such a crazy road to experience because it was just, it was unapologetic and authentic and real.

30:36So rather than frowning upon the years that I missed Or the moments that my dad wasn't there I kind of like I relished in the fact that like Oh, he's changing He's aware and he wants to be better And do the right thing And when he got on the other side of it He said, look, I can't change anything Of what I've done with you Or your brother I can say, sorry But now y 'all got grandkids Like I got grandkids I can be the best version Of myself to them Because they don't know everything Give me the opportunity to create that With them And seeing him Seeing him repair his years of bad father By Great grandparent energy Oh shit This is full circle I'll take that I'll take it every day of the week And that's bigger than an apology to me It's much bigger You don't need to say anything to me Right I've dealt with it I'm okay We're okay I still love you You're my dad But oh Your road to repair And how you're going about it I can't find a level Of more respect So Seeing him do that It was when I started to really like Really peel back the layers And go I mean this is a man's man This is a You're talking about Falling to the bottom

32:00Craig Robinson:and climbing back up and finding a reason to smile every day after finding solace and then the blessings of your son becoming and you being able to see it. Yeah. Whether the, like, who's to say who deserved to or who didn't? Like, my mom didn't get to see any of it. Yeah. My dad was able to be on my, my dad was on jets with me and here's a house, dad. Here's a car. Get what you need. What do you want? My dad was able to reap the benefits of his son becoming because somehow he managed to make it through. I don't know why it plays out the way that it does, but I think everything happens for a reason.

32:43For sure. But I love the fact that my dad got a world of blessings after his world of turmoil. And in some ways, you got extra blessings from that. I won't touch drugs because of my dad. Yeah. And I've only met heaven. I haven't met your other kids, but I suspect that it's affected you in the way you parents. 1 ,000%. Yeah. 1 ,000%. They've never spent the night like over their grandpop's house.

33:16Craig Robinson:Well, yeah. And I was like, hey, look, you're not going over grandpop's. Dad, can we? When we're kids, like, Dad, can we go? Can we stay to grandpa? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You're not going over there. You love him right here. Yeah, you're going to grandpa. He can sleep over here. He's going to come over here. And sleep over there. We're going to have grandpa come in. My dad would ask all the time, send the kids down there. Absolutely not. Yeah. Absolutely not, dad. You know what? And we all have the, if you're black and, you know, didn't grow up rich, we all have, that wasn't my father, but there were cousins and uncles and, you know.

33:52You're not going over there.

33:53Craig Robinson:Yeah. And it's a—the other thing you got from all that was the power of forgiveness. A thousand percent. Right? Because there's so many young men, so many grown men, who are walking around with the pain from that loss without any clarity, without any context, without any reconciliation. And they are living with those holes. A thousand percent. And you, your father helped you close those. It's weird because my brother, my brother struggles with that. Okay. My brother can't let go of the times of old. He's very like stubborn in the idea of repair. You do something wrong to my brother. My brother is, well, then for life.

34:46Yeah. You and I got a problem for life. Yeah. every time I see you, I'm going to tell you that me and you are no good. You know, I told him one day, I was like, do you know the amount of energy that it takes to keep a grudge? Do you know, like, every day to wake up and go, no, no, that nigga made me wrong. The fact that they think I'm that guy, like, that, it takes so much. And he, He can't. I've never been the, I'm not a grudge person.

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37:30This is a great way to segue into Kids Make Me Angry. Yes, yes. Can you talk a little bit about your project? It's a project with Audible. And, you know, it's more of what we're doing now, right? Like the lessons and intel, information and stories of like my roadmap to better parenting. From start to like where I am now. It's a very, very authentic, transparent dive into like kid one through four. And the lessons that I was able to like learn from, take on, understand, improve upon, and grow with after each child. Right? Like, you know, from starting out and, you know, not really like being as useful as you would want to be.

38:33When a newborn baby's there, it's not much as a father that you can do. You're there for vocal.

38:38Craig Robinson:You can change a diaper. I mean, it's vocal, maybe. But when I start changing a diaper, you snatched the baby because I did it wrong. Because I did it wrong. That's not it. You got it too tight. That's why I don't. Give me the baby. Because I get it. They're shooting at the back. Let me swaddle. I can swaddle. No, you don't do it right. The arm ain't locked. You're there for moral support. Looking over the shoulder only. And that's it. I think it's very valuable. Especially men. 1 ,000%. I think it's really beautiful that you are sharing your skills, tools, lessons, wisdom as a father. Because fathers don't talk as much.

39:17Well, I think there's a cloud over the concept of the Black father, right? And the stereotypes attached to that, you know, bad, good, whatever they may be. The only way to redefine these stereotypes is to put better examples of fatherhood out there in the world that can be received, that can act as energy to energize this new generation of fathers.

39:50Craig Robinson:For sure. Right? What better gift to give to fathers than the gift of more information, right? And affirmation, right? I think sometimes we're looked over and quickly looked past. There are a lot of good fathers. 1 ,000%. We had one. I am married to one. My brother is one. You know, I'm surrounded by good fathers. And you're right. They get a bad rap, especially black fathers. You know. But part of it is because there's not enough guys doing what you're doing. Yes. And who have the platform to go out and say and champion fathers. So thanks for doing that. Thank you. First and foremost. Thank you.

40:32Craig Robinson:Well, Heartbeat, y 'all are killing it. Please. Talk about that joint. I mean, all that you were doing. Heartbeat is my entertainment ecosystem. Oh, I like that. Ecosystem. Ecosystem. Okay. Are there plants and trees? Well, there's a lot. There's a lot of trees with tons of branches that are now presenting the opportunity for so much for this next generation. I think what I'm very adamant about at this point in my career is creating opportunities for the new. For example, Funny AF is a comedy series that I did with Netflix where we're finding the next voice in comedy, right? And the winner of the competition gets an hour special on Netflix.

41:17So I was able to go to Netflix and say, look, I want to do something cool, but the hour special has to come with it. Well, Kevin, we don't know. That's a lot to give. was my partner. I need you guys to align with me because this has never been done.

41:28Craig Robinson:Are you guys, you're working with everybody? Are you working primarily with Netflix? I personally was doing, am, not was, was doing a film deal with Netflix. Unbelievable partners, unbelievable relationship that we've had over the course of like the last five years. The company still does business with all, right? It's free game and opportunity for. With all? With all. That's neat. So Mish, how does that compare to Higher Ground and what you guys are? It sounds really similar. It's a similar philosophy, you know, except you're Kevin Hart. You've been doing this for a while, you know, which is a wonderful brand.

42:14Craig Robinson:But yeah, we are, it's the same sort of thing. I mean, we've had a wonderful relationship with Netflix. Yeah, you've been actively producing a lot. You guys are doing amazing. But, you know, we moved from an exclusive deal to a first look with a goal always to be independent. Yes. Right. Because our reason for getting into storytelling was to tell a broad base of stories, you know, and get it out there. So our goal is to work with everyone. So we're now at the phase after that great foundational support from Netflix to be able to go independent. You know, it's all about mentoring. too, opening doors.

42:53Ecosystem.

42:54Craig Robinson:Yeah, ecosystem. You have the same thing in the operation. But in order to do that, we've got to be working with everyone, right? Because not every story belongs on every platform. And Netflix was an example of that. I mean, they do certain things, but they don't do everything, you know? So having the freedom now to go and work with everyone. You know, we've got projects with HBO. There's a project that Barack is doing with Larry David on HBO that's coming out like right around the 4th of July that is, you know, a sort of spoof on America. You know, so it's a comedy. There is no problem with working with everyone.

43:32Craig Robinson:Well, it was great to support you in fatherhood, you know? I mean, that was really one of my favorite movies of the year that year. I mean, you know, the depiction of real fatherhood. I mean, you've been on, that's been a part of your brand. And I think that is beautiful. That story was so absolutely touching. Kevin, when you started out in comedy, and we've been talking about a lot of stuff here. We haven't even touched on your genesis in comedy. Because I'm trying to figure out, were you better in comedy or basketball when you were growing up? I mean, if you really want to be honest, man, I feel like I chose comedy, but basketball chose me.

44:15Right? You could who? You could who? It was one of those things. I think people don't understand. No, nobody does. How good you have to be to play varsity basketball in high school. Nobody understands that. Usually people's career are over before they get to varsity. Yeah, it's a tough thing that I struggle with more than anything because that's where I should be. I should be. You carry yourself like a hoop. I should be on the court, right? But instead, I chose the stage. Yeah. Because I had to, right? Like, the demand for laughter was so high. And I just had to put the basketball sneaks up. I had to put them up.

45:01But when you finally got in the comedy, did you envision what you're doing with Heartbeat? Or did you think, all right. No. No, let me just give you an honest answer. Absolutely not. No, hell no. You're looking at a dumb genius and accident on accident on accident. Like stand-up comedy was an accident. I was working at City Sports. A friend of mine at City Sports said, Kev, you're funny. You should do one of those amateur nights. The comedy club was right up the street. They said, would you do it? I said, I don't care. I'll do it. They said, if you do it, we'll go. We'll all go. And it was like a joke.

45:42I did amateur night. I fell in love with it. Oh my God, this is amazing. I won a couple competitions. Being the dumb genius that I am, I quit my job because I got$75 from winning the competition. I was like, I'm going to do this. See you later. I'm just going to come here every week, win this. They stopped the competition soon after. I had no job, no more access to this$75. That was my plan of attack. So you weren't like writing jokes and preparing. No. You just... No. I want to hear that. I, I. When did you start like treating it as a profession? When my mom laid down a hammer. My mom was like, you got a year.

46:24You got one year to figure it out your way. And if you do not figure it out, I'm still living with my mom. And you're how old at this point? I'm 18. Okay. If you do not figure it out your way, you have to do my way, which is. College. Back to community college. Back to. Whatever. School, trade, job, everything. Keep in mind, I'm out here with a dream. I'm like, Mom, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm going to be a comedian. What? I'm going to be a comedian. I got it. And to her credit, she did not, she did not like, she did not, she didn't lessen my dream. She never was not aligned.

47:08She just, she put a time on it. And what that did Credit to her or not It made me go Oh my god I got a year I got one year So I put the most pressure on myself And I figured it out So in figuring out Where the amateur night rooms were Where the comedians were That were getting work Doing work How Who can I get access to Who can I travel with Who can show me more than what I know now And I started to figure it out So my mom, there's a Bible story of like where she put checks in the Bible. She's asked me like, am I reading my Bible? I told this story several times and I was lying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm reading the Bible.

47:50She was like, let me know when you read the Bible. I was like, mom, I'm reading the Bible. But at the time, you know, the rent, it was getting crazy. I was getting notices. Like, they're about to kick me out, mom. Like right now, I'm having a hard time covering the rent. And she was like, well, read the Bible. You know, talk to God about it. Mom, this ain't, okay, I don't know. This is not a game Alright Like I get it I get the I get the spiritual side of it I love it Look I believe Okay But right now They put a notice on the door I need to You gotta help me out mom This month Until I Until I do these open mics The next month Read your Bible Damn it mom Like I'm getting frustrated So one night I opened up the Bible She had all the checks For the year Like she had rent checks To cover me for the year Wow And the Bible They all fell out And it's like the dopest thing ever but okay let me let me let me actually read it could you just have given me the checks by the way very childish extremely childish right extremely childish I'm 18 just give me the give me the damn checks lady I'm gonna get kicked out okay but she knew you weren't gonna read the Bible she knew and she knew I was lying the whole time a month and a half a lie I haven't read the Bible I'm on page 76 Matthew's talking to Peter about the stuff he did to David.

49:10I'm clearly reading it. I'm just cliff notes. I'm looking up Matthew. I'm like, cliff notes from the Bible. So when I gave that year and figuring it out, I saw, like, the energy that you should have to, like, really being prepared for the craft. So I started treating it like a real business.

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51:51I did a Def Comedy Jam competition and I won. I won a Def Comedy Jam competition.

51:56Craig Robinson:When was this? How were you? This was, I mean, I want to say 1998. 98. I was probably doing comedy for like maybe two years, maybe a little over at the time. And this was so big. To me, I was like, I just won a Def Comedy Jam competition. By the way, you were supposed to get so much. None of it happened. Everything was promised with the competition. None of it happened. I never even got the jacket. I never even got my leather jacket. You were supposed to get a Def Comedy Jam jacket, which was the biggest thing to me. I'm going to wear this jacket so people know. Look, I gotta be funny. You see what's on my back They never gave me my jacket And after winning You were supposed to be on a Def Comedy Jam tour I did one date And then the tour disappeared It was a very lackluster letdown Russell, listen He's my guy, I've told Russell this story to his face You owe me a jacket I've said it several times Give me my damn jacket, Russell But things were starting to happen I did BET Comic View I started to find my way to TV And I ended up doing Montreal Comedy Festival When I did the Montreal Comedy Festival Was when everything changed I did the Festival of New Faces And the Hollywood side Of the business was like You gotta see this guy This Kevin Hart guy You gotta see him And I started to then Move to a place of like Auditions and things here And oh my god Now, now I'm like, oh, this is comedy gets you to the.

53:29Craig Robinson:Oh, never thought about it. Never saw that. I can probably do movies and stuff. And I remember getting a deal. I got a deal for like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It was a development deal with I want to say ABC, ABC or NBC. I got a development deal. And when I got that, you know, I'm I got it. I'm rich. Mom, get you a house? I'm going to hold you down Everybody gets a house By the way, got to get a car, right? I'm going to hold Dad, I know you want some Don't worry, I got that That money was gone in two weeks Okay? Two weeks, that money was gone But I up and moved to Los Angeles And at no point during that process Did you get any kind of professional development?

54:10Dumb genius Dumb genius I moved to Los Angeles without a plan

54:14Craig Robinson:No acting classes, no nothing I moved to Los Angeles With 25 ,000 I had about$25 ,000 left. Left of the development deal. I owed about 60 grand to the IRS because I didn't pay taxes. So I'm technically in debt. I moved to Hollywood and I remember moving and walking down Sunset Boulevard and I was like, okay. Here we go. This is it. What now? So the opportunities within TV and movie, they started to come. That was when the big house and Soul Plane, all this stuff happened early on. And I was supposed to be made from it. And those things failed. None of it worked. So I kept getting hit with failure.

55:03But while failure was hitting me, because I was such a road warrior, the next wave of opportunity came from Will Packer, who saw me at a comedy show. And he wanted to develop Think Like a Man, which was Steve Harvey's book. Yeah. And he wanted me to star. Think Like a Man was a$12 million budget. We did$90 something million in the box office.

55:28Craig Robinson:And that was that. That was it. Like literally, Think Like a Man hit. I was the comedy relief. I can't thank this cast enough. The cast of Think Like a Man. Romney Malco, Megan Good, Gabrielle, Regina, Lala. It's a beautiful movie. Gary Owens, Jerry, I mean, Terrence, Tim Story directed. Like this movie was set up in such a way to where I was the funny. But without the cast giving me the ammunition or the moments, none of it would work. And everybody was okay with it. and I was able to improv and I was able to do this thing that created like some movie magic. So this thing comes out and then to Hollywood, this is the new guy.

56:25I mean, at this time, I've been doing comedy for 12 years. You were long overnight sensation. I'm ready. I'm like, oh my God, this is it. Like, it's going to happen. I have not taken my foot off the gas. I've done the same thing over the course of a 30-year career. And to most, it's... Oh, man, it's overnight.

56:48Craig Robinson:Yeah. No, no, not so much. The real grind and the real hard work that it took to get here. And, you know, when I sit down for too long, I'm like, okay, I got to... Like, I'm working and working, but Kevin, you got to figure out the next wave of comedy. Like, what are we talking about? where's the next comedic energy wave coming from? And what I do that I embrace, I go to a comedy club, I go to New York, and I go to the smallest places. And in these places where I... Hold on, I'm telling my wife I'm still here. Tell her. Hey, honey. I'm still here. Say hi. Hey, we're on the podcast. You're on. Hi.

57:37Craig Robinson:Completely different smile. Did you see that? Did you see that? I did see that. Did you see that? I'm completely different. She was salty for a minute. What are you doing? I got eyebrows. What are you doing? I'm still here, babe. She saw, hey! I mean, what just happened? I'll call you when I'm done. Hev is here, too. Hey, Nico. We're all here. All right. Love you. Bye. So, like... See, and let me just say... Oh, you got some points there, bro. You got some points. Took his wife's call. Oh, no. That's that. I don't want to end that one You do not I do not end that one Do not Well done Hey hey See I fumbled Hey hey hey You see Michelle Hey Everybody's here You see everybody We still filming You said you would be I know I know I know Yeah That's a beaten man right there With stand up comedy So I go to these small places And I don't have a thought I go on stage And I talk I'm not afraid Of silence I'm not afraid of the joke not working I embrace The idea Of in order To get to the hour I gotta step on stage With nothing And I gotta go okay Here we are And I gotta figure it out In real time I gotta figure it out And as you start to figure it out my energy starts to pick up.

59:07Oh, I got a joke. Oh, that joke connects to this. Oh, I got to go back out. I got to get on stage again. Oh, I'm so excited to do these things to see if they work. And then after eight to nine months or 10 months of preparation and doing that over and over again, five to seven days out the week, I have a skeleton of what I want to talk about. It's a brutal process, but I embrace it. Because without that, well, you can't celebrate the good. So, Heaven, we are going to take you off the hook because we have a listener question so he can lecture them. Oh, it's coming. It's coming. Yeah, here it comes.

59:46So we do this question where we give back to our wisdom sharing. We share some thoughts. So this one is from Carrie.

59:54Craig Robinson:I'm a parent to two amazing kids. For years, I was close to both of them. but with the teenage years and probably all the hormones, my oldest has become challenging for me to be around. I feel like she has a mean streak that's developed towards me and we're really not getting along these days. I love both my children, but I am closer to my youngest right now. I feel horrible because my brother was always the favorite growing up and I'm extremely sensitive to how hurtful that can be. How do you think I could connect with my oldest? Do I just ignore what's going on or try to talk to her about it?

1:00:27Craig Robinson:and how do I make sure that my kids know I love them both equally? This is from Carrie in Madison, Wisconsin. I think that, you know, when you're in that period of battle, as a parent, you create settings that are just better for your mood. I would recommend your oldest, take your oldest to breakfast. Take your oldest for a hike, a walk, you know, go to dinner, A bike ride An activity that forces you guys to talk That forces you to enjoy one another In a different manner than what you've been doing Good always comes out of quality time, right? And not your version of quality time But something that acts as a new version for the both of you I would recommend And I think, you know, in doing that You get to see and remember Why your parent is fun or why your parent is cool or good energy.

1:01:27Did you like that? You should do a book. An audible book.

1:01:34Craig Robinson:I think that would be a great idea. You know what? This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to focus on doing an audio version of parenting and information. We've discovered that here today. I'm glad I could be of help. Thank you. Thank you for that idea. But I do. I like that advice. I think we talked about this as well. I would encourage her to make sure she is taking each child as they come. So I would just say, make sure you see the child in front of you and try to, you know, just like you did with heaven, you know? I love that. I mean, I think that's a phenomenal breakdown. So hopefully that information is taken and not frowned upon.

1:02:12If not, then get Kevin's Audible book.

1:02:17Craig Robinson:Yeah. Which I just made the decision to do. Yes, thanks to Michelle Obama. Yeah, yeah. An amazing gem. I start negotiating a percentage now. Well, you said it without that. Right? We already, yeah, you gave the idea. Yeah, you didn't. You said it without that. At first, you know, the first idea wasn't, it didn't come with a business economics. So it's weird now. So I think that we kind of just have to, it's one of those things, yeah, we just have to leave it because it's weird. You don't want to make it weird, right? That's how I would state that. Ooh, master negotiating right there. Fair point.

1:02:53Craig Robinson:Craig, do you have anything to add? I can't. I don't want to add too much. Those are both great answers. To Kevin's point, sometimes you have to ask your kids what they are interested in and what they're doing to be better able to go find that new thing. Man, I can't tell you how wonderful this has been. Thank you. Really wonderful. Thank you. It was amazingly uplifting. Right? Like, I just love the vulnerability, the transparency. So, I can only thank you guys for the time today. Like, this was very, very much worth it. And thank you, most of all, for bringing heaven. Yeah, she is heaven. Bullied.

1:03:32Bullied my interview.

1:03:35Craig Robinson:I want to pack her up. Please. Because it's like, please. It's like, here. Yeah, I have her bag. Hold on. I'll be right back. I have her bag and a car. You'd love Malia and Sasha. They've got to meet. Yeah. Yeah, that would be cool. And be sure to tell Nico we said hi, too. Yeah, I'm going to do it right now. Because I'm probably late. She's waiting for you to go. A little late. My day's a little behind. It's all right.