Turn off Your Socials with Angel Reese

22:47Craig Robinson:Where does your height come from? My whole family. My granddaddy is 6 '5". Okay. Everybody's tall. My mom's 6 '1". My dad's 6 '9". My brother's 6 '9". My other brother's 6 '9". So everybody was tall. So in high school, I was being heavily recruited. And then my first year is I played volleyball. I won two championships in volleyball. Oh, you just went in everywhere. I love volleyball. It was so fun. And I thought it was something I could just continue to help me I think that kind of helped me with rebounding as well. I'm sure. It probably did. My mom was a great rebounder though. She has a record held at UMBC in Maryland.

23:20But did she say to you, all right, you got to get 10 rebounds a game? No, she's never been the type that would be like, you need to do this, you need that. She always let me be free. Like she always let me, because she trusted and she knew that I would work hard and know that I can get to my goals because I worked hard. She trusted me. Now my brother on the other hand, when he went to college, she was like, what are you doing? she knew that I was going to always be successful because she trusted me. Yeah. Yeah.

23:45Craig Robinson:Did you guys, I do, were you guys, what was your relationship like with your mom? Was it like, were you like friends? Was she like, I'm not one of your little friends. Yeah. That was that. And so I got to college. I loved her when we got to college. I didn't have to come home at a certain time. Yeah. Do certain things. And me and my brother are 11 months apart. Okay. So we used to try to be like, close to us. Yeah. We used to try to be like, hey, let's do this. Let's not tell mom this. and tell mom that. So we were super close when we were younger. And then when we got older, we just all like, we're like best friends.

24:15Like all of us were texting the group chat and just have a good time. And I think parents understand once you're out of the house and like we're adults and we understand what life is about now because you've taught us so many great things. And I don't think, I think you know that we're not going to do anything crazy or get into any trouble because I know you're going to get on me. That's right.

24:34Craig Robinson:It's like you got to be more afraid of me than you are of your little friends. Yes, I'm still afraid of my mom. Yes. And I say that too. My girls say the same thing. I was like, I'm good with that. You know, I think a little fear is good for all the parents out there. It's like, let your kids like you when they're adults. But until then, they should be a little afraid. Just a little afraid. I tell my kids, I'm easy to manage. Just do what you're supposed to do. I'm easy to manage. Did you guys go to the same high school? Initially, no. He went to a public school And I went to a private school My four years And then I used to tell him Like I don't like the situation And I used to tell my mom Like I wasn't liking the situation So he needs to come with me And like I used to Always watch over him Oh you didn't like his situation I didn't like his situation At the public school Yeah Because public school Sometimes it's like It's too much going on I think he needed The undivided attention Of being at a private school What is it with these little sisters Taking care of their older brothers No this is my little brother Little brother Oh this is your little brother Yes Okay I kind of felt like I knew What was best for him Like I got you And he was successful He was able to still thrive, but I had to like watch him.

25:41Like I always say to my mom, like my mom like just lets me be independent. And she's like still babies. My brother, I'm like, you have to let him live life. That's what happened here too. See? The mama's boys.

25:53Craig Robinson:Yes, they are. I mean, look, I always make the joke. Like I had to take her to the White House before she noticed. She's like, Craig, Craig, is Craig fine? That's what my mom does too. I'm like, she's like, is Juju fine? I'm like, I don't know. Call them. he's playing with the G League in Toronto and she went down to set his room up. I'm like, what are you doing, mom? You didn't come set my room up. But I love it because I know that that's what makes him feel comfortable and that's what makes me feel comfortable for him. Yeah, he's good. Yeah, he's good. I'm like, you good? You need something?

26:28I'm like, he's like, all right, I'm good.

26:30Craig Robinson:So how do you feel about girlfriends in his life? Let's talk about that for a bit. I am, um, open to what he likes and loves, but I definitely will let him know, like, this might not be the best situation for you. And I see it at the end. Right. It always folds out how I say it. You already, you always know what you're talking about. I always know what I'm talking about. I'm like, mom, I'm like, mom, she's like, just let him live. Like, he has to go through it. I'm like, mom, this is not, if she do something to my brother, man, I'm not going to be happy. It's going down. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Let's understand that, ladies.

27:04Craig Robinson:Don't be messing with Angel's little baby. So he hasn't met anybody who's like you. I don't think he's capable of being with somebody like me. Okay. To expound. I don't think he's able to be with the woman that has her own. I think a lot of men are not able to have...

27:28That requires... Present company excluded. I think it's hard. I think it takes a strong man to be able to be open to a woman. woman that has her own, that works on her own, that does her own things and doesn't necessarily need you.

27:42Craig Robinson:And that is not catering to, you know, it's like when you have your own thing, you don't have time to make sure you're this, make sure, because you're, you know, you're, you know, you've got your own pathway and it is, it is a difficult thing. I mean, I feel very blessed that, you know, my husband in his, before all of this, he had to be completely secure with all that was me. How I thought, how I moved, how I, you know, and it's a rare thing. Yeah. That's how my mom was. My mom was very like, she taught me how to cut the grass if I needed to, if I needed to change a tire. She made me so independent.

28:24If I'm coming into a relationship, sir, I don't need you. You're just a plus to me. And I kind of, when I tell my brother, I'm like, you want a woman that is also ambitious because you don't want to deal with, you don't want to be with somebody that's not driven, that is not going to push you to be better. Because when you're slack and you need somebody to tap you on the button, hey, you got to get up and come on.

28:42Craig Robinson:I say a relationship is like a basketball team. It's like everybody's got to be able to shoot, dribble, score and defend everybody. It's like you wouldn't pick your team and be like, I only dribble. And it's like, you know, because you never know what life is going to have before you. It's like you want a partner that is bringing what you're bringing to the table because life happens. Somebody could get sick. Somebody could life be life. Can we just pause for a moment and I want to let the producers mark this time that my sister used a basketball analogy for the first time in a whole year. Not with me.

29:26Craig Robinson:But I do when I'm talking to men. trying to get them to understand. It's like you want a partner that can bring it all. And I tell my daughters, you have to be able to do everything. I don't want you to ever count on somebody. I've seen too many friends who, you know, they serve the role. They did what they were supposed to do. And then somebody walked out on them or somebody died, unfortunately. It takes us a while. How long? When we get older. How long? Yeah, really. I would say for me, I was probably in my early 30s when I was like confident. Okay. Well, like I think that. It's not the same for everybody though.

30:09Like there's some guys who probably have that at 25. I've met some guys who've had it early, but I would think around 30 is the right age. Especially for somebody as polished as you are. Yeah, you might. Yeah. Sorry, I cut you off No, no, no

30:30Craig Robinson:Because I want to hear your opinion as the man I never understood though I want to know Do you feel like it's a threat? When you were younger in your earlier days No, because I grew up in a household of strong women I didn't see it as a threat It was more I wasn't ready to be as responsible as you Or as my sister was at an earlier age I was still you know I was trying to play basketball I'm trying to be out there and see what this all brings and then when I stopped playing I was trying to make a living and I was really focused on that. I think it's like the lifestyle too like you get so caught up in the lifestyle especially the guys you see you have so much access to everything and you don't understand what it even looks like to be in a real relationship or be with someone that is driven and has their own like oh she I woke up today because I saw you woke up at five and now I'm about to get up and get up at 530 because I'm motivated to keep going and get up and do things.

31:30And I think that is important, especially at 23. I've seen so much in the dating world. And I think being able to be around people and be around someone that really understands and is very ambitious and talks long-term things. I like to be educated too, because I don't know everything.

31:46Craig Robinson:That's right. Tell me about the investments and how to do certain things and assets, because I wasn't taught that in school. They don't teach that in school. No, they don't teach that anywhere. Oh yeah, anywhere. But I think that is really important. And I think I've had an eye opener to that. And not just over the years, just being in the life in the space that I've been now, like realizing it's bigger than the lifestyle. At the end of the day, we have to turn the social media off, everything that we see, and we have to sit and lay down in bed together. And this is reality. How are you managing that?

32:16Craig Robinson:I mean, first of all, it's your generation. It's your profession. It's the, how do you make the separation? How do you keep yourself sane and still get the job done? I think I try to have some type of normalization of knowing where I've come from. I'll never forget that. I don't want to ever feel like I'm bigger than anything. So I always sit back and just think like, I'm so grateful. I'm so thankful. I love being able just to come home and turn my phone off and just relax and just doing the things that I enjoy, laying in bed and just laughing and just having a good time with the people that I love and enjoy.

32:56So I think over the years, it's been hard for me to realize that, but I think the maturity of just understanding social media isn't real. The reality -

33:06Craig Robinson:Say that again. Social media is not real. Okay, everybody. I think we get so caught up in that. Years prior, I would comment back at things and let things continue to bother me. But now it's just like... Well, you know, girl, it takes some people until now, my age, 62, to realize that. It's just beautiful that, you know, and look, I adore you. It's fun to watch you, but I also want to make sure you're protecting your soul through all of this. And a lot of young people don't even know that they need to protect themselves. Yeah. So I'm glad to hear that you understand this fully. Yeah. I think now, over the last two years, I've been able to understand it.

33:55Do I think what has happened to me over the years is normal? No, not at all. And it's acceptable? No, not at all. But understanding this is my new reality of what life is about and being able to just be grateful and graceful of everything that I'm able to enjoy. of just being able to come home and let my hair down and just walk around the house. Like just being able to enjoy the little things. And like now that's just the things I enjoy. I can't go to the grocery store and do the same things I used to be able to do. Go to the concert and just have a good time or just go to the hair store. Now I just enjoy the little things at home when I can.

34:29Well, I have to back up because you said you were talking about being bullied because you were tall. I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, all the stuff that you've had to go through has prepared you for what you're handling now. And I have to say, so I started following you when you were at LSU. So I didn't know you when you were at Maryland. So when you started being on TV and I was like, oh, look at this beautiful woman getting all these rebounds. And being able to really play. Like, I could tell you could handle the ball. I could tell you can see the game by the way you pass. you're seeing now, sports is like reality TV.

35:12The media wants to manufacture some stuff. And I just want you to know that I noticed how you've handled yourself. And it has been absolutely with a plum. You can't really teach that. You can talk to people about it, but you can't teach what you went through. Yeah. I don't think anybody will ever understand. And so for those young people, not just women coming up behind you, how would you talk to them about what you went through? I think it was a really pivotal point in my life. I think it was a character builder for me to be able to go through what I was going through, especially at a time where I won.

36:01but am I losing at the same time where I'm feeling like I'm getting pulled by the wins but I'm also getting pulled by the losses and how do I find a medium where I'm able to just cope with both and figuring that out and like I've had to eliminate people out of my life eliminate people out of my circle being able to find people that genuinely just outside of Bayou Barbie Chi-Town Barbie outside of everything like Angel who's Angel? and just being able to enjoy great company I think that's really important for me and just continuing to just be confident. I think everybody always asks me like, are you all right?

36:35Like, yeah, I'm as all right as I can be. And everything is not great, but I try to wake up every day and just be grateful for every moment. Every moment hasn't been great, but I wouldn't change this life for anything because I have had some really good moments and I don't want bad moments to outshine the good moments because I know I've been able to bless my family, bless the community, being able to start a foundation. I never would have thought I was able to start a foundation. At this age, girl? I never would have thought that. Being able to just continue to thrive in basketball, have a sneaker, and just being able to do so many great things.

37:08I try not to let the negative outshine the positive. But like I said, I keep my circle very small. I love on who I love on. I am big on loyalty. I love the people around me. I appreciate you guys for making this a safe space for me because, like you said, the media has not always been great for me. No, no. And I'll take a fine. I'll catch a fine, especially on the WNB. I'll take a fine before I have to go to media and feel like my back is against the wall. So I really appreciate you guys for allowing me to come on here and this feel like a safe space and one of the safest spaces that it's been in a very, very long time for me.

37:44Craig Robinson:Well, we've had our share. I mean, I completely understand the challenges that you face, but doing it at 23, I mean, you know, by the time we got in the White House, we were in our 40s. So it's like a big difference to have to deal with that kind of spotlight. So tell me this, the negative stuff that you've been through, I don't want to stay on the negative, but the negative stuff you've been through, has it changed your passion or love for the game? All right, good. I don't think anybody can dictate the love and joy or take that away from me. Good. I think I've been through so much at a pivotal time.

38:30Like I said, when I was winning so much, now it's like everything is a win to me. The small things are a win to me. So I don't even let the negativity get to me. Like it doesn't bother me. You see it. I see it. We all see it. And it's like, I've grown to have a skin where you can't break me. Yeah, good. You just can't break me. I mean, I feel like I've learned over the years also when I've spoken out on those things, of things that I have gone through, it's backfired or anything. Anything you say. I feel like you damn if you do, damn if you don't. You say something and it's a problem. You don't say something, it's still a problem.

39:09And you know that the people you have surrounded yourself with, your family, your team, those are the only people you need to care about. That's what our mom used to tell us. Just worry about who's at this kitchen table right here. Don't worry about these other folks.

39:30Craig Robinson:It's like, come here. Come home to be loved. You need love, come to your team. Go to your team or come home. And that's true for everybody, quite frankly. Everybody should be that way, but it's hard. Especially your generation when everything is judged. and hearing you talk about social media like a 60-year-old makes me happy because I know you're not sitting there swiping and going down a rabbit hole like, oh man, I might just give up playing because it's saying worth it. I can be a fashion designer. I can be a shoe salesperson. You can do whatever you want. Yeah, it just makes me go harder. Good, good.

40:14Yeah, I have so many goals. It's like, if I stop now, I proved you right. And I proved you right. And I have nothing to prove to anybody but myself. And I just know I want to continue to do the things that I want to do. I'm not going to let the outside control my own narrative of what I want to be and what I want to do.

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43:45Okay, what part of your game are you working on this summer?

43:48Craig Robinson:Everything. Ooh, okay, that was quick. See, but then you still sounded like a baby right there. Yeah, I know. Everything. Everything. This has been a good off-season for me, though. This is my first time I was able to have a real off-season. What's been the difference? So when I came from college— You go right to the league. Yeah, the way WNBA works, you go right to the league. I was drafted on April 15th. I was in training camp by April 29th. And right after the college season. Right after the college season. Yeah, there's no break. So I did that my rookie year and then last year. And then this is the first offseason.

44:23So I was able to enjoy my offseason and do some of my sneaker stuff and just continue to build my game. And then now I trained for the USA team because that's a big goal for me to pay on the 2028 LA team. So I trained and did a lot of stuff with that in December. And they just announced that I made the World Cup team. So I'm looking forward to that. And then I'm going to go and play on Rival for the last three games. and hopefully we get to the finals and run it back. So. How is Chicago? The city is beautiful. Summertime shine. Which is why we're not there. Oh, man. It's the best.

44:57Craig Robinson:The food, the vibes. The city, it's like a small town, big city. You know, people are really nice, lovely. It's like that Midwestern, you know, everybody's sweet. It's sort of, I always say it's because it's Southern. Yeah. You know, it's like Black folks migrated from the South. Everybody went down South for the South. It's like, it's got that Southern welcoming vibe. I was hoping you were enjoying yourself. I love the culture there. Like, they show up. They sell out our games. Like, they love us. And going to a city where the legacy of Chicago and sports speaks for itself, like, it was an honor to be able to be in the city.

45:35And we still love the city, even though we don't live there.

45:38Craig Robinson:But we've got the Presidential Center opening up in June. Yes. And we still have our home there. We live in Hyde Park. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's nice. So we are going to be doing a lot of work and hopefully we can do some things together. Yes, yes, yes. With your foundation, I'll be working with girls and young leaders and it would be great to figure out some ways we can do some things together for the city. Talk about your foundation. I want the folks out here to hear about it. Yeah. So when I started my foundation, well, let's start back when I was in high school, I went to a school called St.

46:10Francis Academy in Baltimore. If I'm here, the jail is right there in Baltimore City. There were about 250 students in the school, probably about 50 of us were women. And I always told myself, like, I want to be able to give a scholarship back to the school. However I can, if it's just to a woman, to a player on the team, somebody, I was like, I want to do that. So when I started, when everything happened with the national championship, I was like, this money can't just be spent. I can't be just spending. I got to give back to the community and give back to where I know I was from and where I was founded.

46:43So St. Francis was the first thing I was able to do. I was able to give a scholarship away first. Then I did my back to school event there and giving backpacks and everything away for the entire community. And then I was like, nobody ever taught me what it's like to have a lump sum of money. Because I'm a first generation of having this much money. And I didn't know what to do with it initially. And I'm learning on the go and learning on the fly. But how about as I'm learning, I'm teaching some young girls of how to do it as well. And how to be confident within themselves. To have a big sister as myself.

47:13And being able to feel and touch them. and they can see me because when you see it, you can believe it. You can be it. Yeah. Wonderful.

47:20Craig Robinson:All right, let me switch. And I don't want to make this personal, but as a young person out here, because I had two young daughters, it's like, what do you make of the dating scene? You know, how, you know, and I know it's hard for you. It's like, because you're beautiful and you're smart and you know your own thing. I'm always like, what does it feel like being out here these days? And that's not about the who or no. It's just like, what's your take on this situation? I think, like I said, finding someone that doesn't care about all the extra stuff. I don't want you to fantasize over me because of what you see on social media.

48:04Like, you know I'm that girl. But at the end of the day, like when we go home, like you're still a genuinely good person. And I have my own. so I don't need to be with someone for their own. So I think it was very intentional for me. One, I date privately. That's what I've learned over the years. Not putting your business out there, sharing what you want people to know and keeping things private of what you want to keep private. But I haven't had like a hard life in the dating scene. I think - Of course not. I'm having a soft life. But I'm very big on like, like I said, like you treat me right.

48:42Yeah. Yeah, but if you don't, like, yeah. Yeah, you gotta go. Yeah, yeah. I like that.

48:47Craig Robinson:Do you feel like it's hard for your daughters? I mean, you know, they aren't lonely, right? They're attractive women. But, you know, I do think just in the whole situation of young people, because it's not just my kids, but, you know, the young women who are like my daughters. And, you know, just like we talked about, for women, it's, you know, the pickings are slim or they seem slim because it just feels like no one wants to commit. I think it's hard. I think you always want to have the, you walk in the grocery store and you need to reach up and find something and the man just walks in and grabs it for you.

49:30Yeah, everybody's got this romantic story. It doesn't happen. So I think just finding the reality of what genuine love is like. And I am young and still figuring things out. And I think you find someone that is helping you learn this life thing at the same time. Like I said, I'm big on loyalty. You ride with me, I'm a ride with you through any and all. So as long as we doing that and rocking, then we're good to go. We're going to be okay. We're going to be just fine. Just fine. What are the I mean you're in Everything And I was looking Through the research That we had So you're trying To get into cooking more I do I want to cook

50:12Craig Robinson:Okay You want to I want to go to Culinary school Okay Like serious cooking You want to be able Chop and dice We have a chef But like I want to be able to I mean I can do A little one too But like I want to be able To like dress the plate up And like have it Looking like the restaurant It's the white plate You want to have sauces Yeah like the sauces The little drips of the sauce and like that's what I want I feel like I can't like I said basketball is when we done one day I'm gonna have kids and like yeah the chef can do the thing one of these days but sometimes I gotta put it together too right right it's nothing like a home cook meal I can just see your kids coming home hey mommy thanks for the little design on my plate I also I don't know if you guys know who Nora Smith is okay she's like um she's no she makes and cooks everything from scratch I'm sure people somebody back there knows what she's like Like milk in the cow.

51:02Craig Robinson:Oh, you know. Nara. I think I've... Yes, your daughter's now. Okay. So I want to like... I mean, not that in-depth, but she makes everything. Yeah, that seems a little extra. So you're going to be making your own baby food. Yeah. Does she make Cheerios or something like that? She makes everything. Yeah, I've seen it. There's nothing she has in me. So that interests me. I like stuff like that. Yeah. So I like watching cooking videos. Yeah, you're talking to somebody who gave up cooking a while ago. What happened? The White House. The White House. Hey, listen, now we're getting to the point where you and I got more in common than everybody else in there.

51:37Craig Robinson:I was like, why do you want to do that? No, I'm just kidding. No cooking, no commercial flights, no, you know. Do you enjoy the life? My life? I am having a blast. This has been, so, you know, so she's 62. I'm going to be 64 on my next birthday. Yes. and being able to learn something completely new at this age, this whole podcasting thing, has been a godsend for me. Yeah. Like, it is really fun getting the talk. I was telling my wife, I was like, I'm really having fun. I can't put my finger on it. And she said, you just like talking to people. And that's what I like. It's fun, yeah. And being able to do it with her.

52:26Yeah. Because we grew up kind of like you and your brother. We were close. And then when I started coaching, I was moving all around. And then they moved to the White House. So we'd only see each other twice a year. Now we see each other once a month. Yeah. And it's so much fun. I love that. I'm really enjoying this part of life. And I'm working with the Coaches Association for college. So I'm all involved in the NIL stuff and the transfer portal and trying to be in on those discussions. And then I've got, we still have two younger sons who are high school and eighth grade. So I'm coaching their team.

53:03So it's, I'm at a good spot. Yeah. I might be a little too busy, but it's good. Is there anything you guys miss about like the normalcy of like, that's one thing. I miss like going to the mall. Yeah. Or just like casually just walking in and nobody knowing who you are.

53:20Craig Robinson:The first little things like, I went to Mallorca visiting a friend. The girls came with me. We're at this villa and we're staying there because we got all this security when we go abroad. It's just like the international, they require all this stuff. So, you know, nobody would know I'm anywhere except for the local police, you know. So I was like, I just want to go into town. I just want to walk into this little beautiful town. And so we found a way to kind of ditch the big motorcade. And we parked in my security and we got out because we're learning how to do things stealthily. Because it's usually the security that tells people somebody's here.

54:00Craig Robinson:Yeah. Right. So we snuck in, me and the girls, a couple of friends of ours. We walked to this beautiful little boutique. We went in it and we shopped for two hours. We got a dressing room. and I realized I had never been able to take my girls shopping like that. Like, those are the little things. Like, we had so much fun. And I was like, yeah, what you want? Try that on. Oh, that looks cute. We just had that or the experience the other summer because I started driving in Martha's Vineyard. Because it's small and, you know, I'm followed by people, but I'm in my own car driving myself. And I was in the car with Malia.

54:42Craig Robinson:and she's in the passenger seat and it's a little convertible. We have the top down and she's playing music and we're singing. Yeah. That was the first time I had that experience with my daughter where I was driving and she was in the car and it was just us. Those are the things that, you know, you miss anonymity. Yeah. My mom always says that. She's like, I miss when we can just go to a restaurant. Yeah. And just go eat. And now everybody's walking up to the table or like just wanting a picture. And you want to give everybody a picture and enjoy everybody, but you also want to enjoy your own time.

55:14Yeah. And again, this is not a complaint.

55:17Craig Robinson:No, it's not a complaint. You feel like you got to be like, oh, look at you. Not a complaint. Not a complaint. No crying on the yacht. No crying on the yacht. But you know, you feel like you have to qualify all of those statements. For sure. But there is a loneliness that comes with the isolation. Yeah. And you're going through it young. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean, so it's like, it's important to acknowledge that that's not normal. You know? Yeah, it's not. Yeah. It's not. And it is okay to feel a way about it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Because I don't think, there are very few people who understand what it feels like to never, ever be able to blend in.

55:57Craig Robinson:Like, first of all, we're tall. Yeah. All right? So before this, we can't walk in any place without anybody going, well, who's that? Right? it's always going to be like that. It's always going to be like that. But, you know, I would imagine, you know, I can imagine what's that like being 23. It's tougher for you being 23. And I'm still in the streets like a normal person. What does that mean? In the streets. I'm going to the mall. Okay. That's not the same street. No. You're not in the streets. I ain't in the streets like I was when I was in Chicago. I'm like in the... in the Wisconsin streets.

56:38Okay, okay. The suburbs. In the suburbs. Of Wisconsin. But because I have young children, we're trying to give them a normal experience. So I have to endure all of the... And now with a podcast and walking around with this face looking just like her, they're like, aren't you Michelle's brother? And it's like, yeah. And I say yes and keep going. Once one starts, it's everybody. And so you learn how to navigate it. But it is... it's an interesting way to exist, right? And it's been this way since, really since I've been coaching. When you start coaching at the Division I level, everybody knows you.

57:19But when you have children, you're going to go back to trying to give them a normal life. And maybe it dies down, but you'll be the host of a hit podcast. You'll probably have your own reality TV series. Maybe. A cooking show that you can be a part of.

57:38Craig Robinson:I heard you're going to be on Hunting Wise. I am. Yes. I love that show. Hunting Wise is crazy. You think we can get— I told him a little bit about it. If you're on it, I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it because you're on it. All right, let's just give him a little warning, though. Am I going to hate it? Okay. No, no, no. Not a hate it. Just you're going to be surprised. Yeah, yeah. So can you talk about what role— Yeah, I'm a trainer. You're a trainer. I'm a trainer. So Brad is going to Baylor. Okay. See, I have no idea what you're all talking about. That's okay. Yeah. That's okay. Brad is going to Baylor.

58:16So I'm going to be his trainer. Do I have to watch the first season to understand yourself? Yes, I think you should.

58:20Craig Robinson:Yeah, you should. You should. Just catch up. Once you watch the first episode, you're hooked. How was the experience? It was so good. Was this your first, like, playing a role? So I did. I worked with Idris Elba last, two years ago. Whoa, tell us more. Excuse us. Idris Helba, come on, IMO. Idris. He's the other one. We love him. He's the other one. Yes, I worked with him. And we can do it without Craig. Oh, that's wrong. Well, I like him. No, I don't care. It's Idris. Yes. It's Idris. So you worked with Idris. So I worked with him on House of Dynamite. I didn't see that one. It was a movie that came out on Netflix.

59:05probably in October, December. October, November. And it was about like his presidency and he was actually in Chicago. And you guys have to watch it. I was in the end of it. I was a basketball player on the court and I was myself. Oh, okay. But it was really good. He's the best. Like when I met him, I was like, I love him. And we've been connected since then. But yeah. Tell him to come on IMO.

59:30Craig Robinson:Michelle wants him on IMO. Idris he's usually in London so okay he'll come okay we can tape in London we'll take it to London let's take IMO to London oh yeah yeah but was it fun like being another character it was fun did you have acting training or did you no I just did it I just did it I believe I believe it it was fun though like it was really fun and I was on set and doing the normal things and just seeing like the set life that's a long day isn't that a trip It's such a long day. For one scene. And then all the angles. Now you have to do it again and again and again. It's like crazy. Yeah.

1:00:08And it was really cool though. Like I really, really enjoyed it. And I definitely would do it again.

1:00:24Craig Robinson:I want to talk about fashion a little bit. Go ahead. It's like, first of all, what's that? That's cute. We are in Versace today. Oh, Versace, Versace. Versace, Versace, Versace, Versace. I love fashion. Yes, me too. Yes, I love fashion. What are you wearing today? This is Loewe. I love. Yeah, it's good. And it's long. It's good. Well, I, you know. Tall girl friendly. First of all, they'll make it longer. Yeah, I like that. And then we still may have to alter here or there, pull out a sleeve. But I think this was okay. This is, I think they made it for me. If anybody cares, I'm wearing American tall.

1:00:59Craig Robinson:Yeah, that's all we wear. American tall is always good. It's American Tall. You know, we want to get him another. And also American Tall needs to be a sponsor. So American Tall. American Tall. I think we shout you out all the time. This guy. I don't always wear it. I have other designers. We're trying to get a sponsorship. Okay, dude. Yeah, we are. So, I mean, pay attention. I wear it most of the time. Pay attention. Have you done any Fashion Week stuff? Have you ever done Met Gala stuff? I've been twice. You've been twice. That's right. I've been twice. It's a crazy day. It seems like it. That seems a lot.

1:01:33Craig Robinson:Like, I don't know. That seems a bit much. And usually I fly in and fly out the same day because I have a game the next day or practice the next day. Oh, right. So usually I practice in the morning. And then I'll fly out that same day, like 11 o 'clock. And I'll get there at like 1, 2 o 'clock. And then it's go time. And it's like go. Like they're stitching on me to hair and makeup. I've done hair and makeup on a plane before my first year. And then last year, I went with Tom Brown. Love Tom Brown. Love Tom Brown. So good. And it was just amazing. So I'm looking forward to it again this year. Are you doing any of your own?

1:02:11Are you thinking about clothing?

1:02:12Craig Robinson:Yeah, I want to start a shoe line. Extended heel line for larger feet, larger sizes. So I'm looking forward to that. And doing a little bit more stuff with makeup. Because I do a lot of blush and setting spray during the games and stuff. Yes, your face is beat. Thank you. You have a beat face for a game? Not beat, but I'll do like a little concealer and a little blush and keep it going. What's beat for the male? That's like the guys. Okay, so like football, like terminology is when you guys wear the little. Oh, eye black. Yeah, I guess. No, but a beat, getting a beat on your face means that your face is so done.

1:02:49Craig Robinson:Your face is like done. Your face is clean. Like the makeup artist beat your face, girl. Beat to the gods. Your beat. To the gods. So that's why having a good beat means your face is done and it's made up. Got it. Okay. Yeah. It's an adjective. It's me. I thought it was a noun. Yes. But you do a little concealer? Yeah, I do a little concealer and a little blushing. So how do you keep it on? Setting spray. Okay. All right. But I'm going to come out something soon. Like I'd use your setting spray. Okay. Because it's like, because if you can keep a face through a game, that's like, you should definitely, everybody should want your setting spray.

1:03:31You don't have makeup on in the game, do you?

1:03:33Craig Robinson:Yeah, I wear a little bit some-some. We just said that. Where were you? I missed that. I didn't think you meant. I wear a little some-some. He was trying to understand what a beat is. Just a little one-two. It just became a thing. You know, Lizzie used to do that. Yeah. Tina Thompson used to have the red lip. And this is why women, we are so amazing. Because in addition to being able to dunk and rebound, we got— Face card. We're looking cute on top of it. One of you, you probably don't even put lotion on. I put lotion on. Before a game. Well, no, because I'd be sweating and it was just sweating off.

1:04:07Yeah, yeah.

1:04:08Craig Robinson:Well, not us women. We want to figure it out, get it looking good all the time. All the time. Exactly. We catch your attention, you said. No. Yeah. Queen, beautiful, baller. And you got to watch out about toweling off. I mean, how do you manage the towel off? It doesn't... You just pat, pat, pat. I know, I'm aware. I'm going to watch you in the game before to see just... It doesn't ever slide down, though, usually. You do a Beyonce pat. Yeah. Like, she can be totally wet. And it's like, how'd you keep your face on? Keep a little lip gloss on the bench. Me and the girls, yeah. Yeah, all the girls do it.

1:04:43We all have to keep our little lip gloss on the bench. It's a little thing.

1:04:46Craig Robinson:Will somebody tell you when you get a little time out girl? I'm too busy watching the game. Girl, you're left. You're left. Gotta get that together. Well, we'll get to our listener question. I have two questions. My first one is, how do you stay true to your purpose when the public expects so much from you? My follow-up question is, what would you say to young people like me trying to stay strong in a world that keeps testing us? I would just say, don't compare yourself to others. I think social media has us thinking that we have to rush and to do these things at a successful pace. And I feel like nobody's timing is like God's timing.

1:05:25I think you go at your own speed. You win at your own speed. And like I said, social media has had us in this chokehold that you have to succeed at a certain time. Or if you don't, then you'll fail. And just don't compare yourself to others. I think you move at your own speed. Run your own race. Run your own race.

1:05:43Craig Robinson:And life doesn't work that way. That's not true. That's not how life works. If you're lucky, life is long. I think the most important thing to do in the thick of it is just being a good person. That lasts through everybody. It's like, think about how you show up in the world, how you treat other people. What kind of friend are you? Does your word mean anything? Do you have empathy for other people, something that sadly feels like it's lacking today? Can you put yourself in somebody else's shoes and have a level of compassion for them? Because we got a lot of successful people out there, people who are billionaires in the world who are showing a lack of an ability to show compassion towards people who aren't like them or who don't have what they have.

1:06:39And that is worse, you know, to me than anything.

1:06:44Craig Robinson:And I want our young people to start focusing on the inside, right? Because that's all you have at the end of the day is how you show up in the world. Well, Angel, gosh, you are an angel. It is true. It's true. What are you looking forward to next? Well, now I'm training for USA. And we're going to— I think you're going to make the team. Well, no, I made the team already. But I think it's going to be fine, right? Yeah, it's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. We're going to Puerto Rico and playing soon. So first I'm rivaled. We won a championship and then go to Puerto Rico and win some more.

1:07:22Just enjoy life. Be happy. I always—like now my new thing is being tired of the things that I pray for. And I'm just grateful to be tired from things that I prayed for. And I maximize my 24 hours and I manifest everything and just continue and just to have fun and enjoy great people. And I'm really thankful for you guys for allowing me on here. Oh, are you kidding? It was amazing.

1:07:47Craig Robinson:This is a real treat. You are a special, special person. Thank you. You know, and I'm saying that to the world. Don't mess with this girl. Don't mess with her spirit. Do not mess with this angel. stop it just stop it that's right right she got us with her now for sure

1:08:30Thank you.