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29:15And we were enjoying it because you know what? I think you rally more people to your side when you become the enemy of the day among the absolute dead-eyed psychopaths. And maybe in the past, I would have felt like, no, I can reach out to them. I can appeal to them. I can get through to them. I just need the right argument at the right time. But now I feel like I've matured a little bit to the point where I understand that there's some percentage that are just, I call them TFGs, too far gone, that you're just not going to get through to them. And so, yeah, go ahead, attack me. If anything, that only makes us stronger when you do that.

29:45So in a sense, it's kind of what worked for Trump, if you think about it. Totally. Like, he would say things that would just rile up the left and liberals, and we would, we would call it out. And then all of a sudden, he would get more people that rally to his side on the right. And it was like, this weird dynamic with attention, where he knew how to direct the attention economy to ride his way into power. And now I think we're getting our swagger, and we're doing the same thing. But what he would do, too, is when he was called out on it, he would double down on it. He wouldn't shy away from it, like some of the Democrats do, where they go about 80 percent of the way and then they get called out and then they kind of stop and pause and back up.

30:21He doubles, triples down on his position with full conviction. He actually, do you remember in his deposition for, I think it's the E. Jean Carroll case, they ask him, the attorney says, you even said you could grab him by the pussy and when you're a star, they'll let you do it. And he's under oath. And he goes, well, historically, that's true with stars. And this is like in a deposition. And Josh is 100 % right. He just like, he triple and quadruples down. But it's the opposite of pick me politics. And I think that when you see Hakeem Jeffries, Chuckles, even Cory Booker, a lot of these centrist Dems, you just think this This motherfucker doesn't believe in anything.

31:06They just are so thirsty for people to like them. And their milquetoast politics bizarrely comes off as the most boring form of thirst trapping that I've ever seen. Okay, Kyle, before we get too far into browbeating everybody that we need to browbeat, I need to ask you what you've had it with. What have you had it with? So for me, the big one that's been pestering me for a long time is I've had it with people saying Trump is anti-war. I was losing my mind before the election when he would say it on the campaign trail and they would post those memes that say Trump is the pro-peace candidate. And I'm losing it now because you just look at what he's doing.

31:44He bombs fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela on like a daily basis. Some of those boats are from Trinidad and Tobago and Colombia. They're plotting regime change in Venezuela as we speak. He illegally bombed Yemen and Somalia and Iran. He's already threatened Greenland and Panama and Canada and Mexico. he said he wants to reinvade Afghanistan the other month and this is all just stuff from the second term don't get me started on the first term where he increased drone strikes over 400 percent and illegally assassinated Qasem Soleimani an Iranian commander who was fighting ISIS in the field so like and then he says the I stopped eight wars and sometimes he ups it he'll go anywhere from like six to nine wars that he stops on a daily basis and I'm not kidding when I say one day I was like I know this is bullshit let me like look into this the actual answer is zero he stopped zero wars and just shamelessly lies.

32:31So that's what gets that's what sticks in my craw. Oh, my gosh, I agree. And I just think also, I heard Ro Khanna say the other day, and I thought this was such great messaging. He said the Democratic Party, first and foremost, needs to be clear eyed and discuss that Joe Biden gave Benjamin Netanyahu a blank check. And it was so refreshing to hear it phrased that way. And Trump continues to give out of all the the other things you mentioned. He continues to give Benjamin Netanyahu a blank check. He has Jared Kushner and Steve Whitcoff, dumb and dumber, I think not as dumb as Eric and Don. I mean, those are for sure the dumb and dumber, but like dumb and dumber Jr.

33:13They are doing all of this colluding with Vladimir Putin and with Benjamin Netanyahu. And these people like Jared Kushner doesn't have a security clearance. He said he wasn't going to have anything to do with this. And all of their actions are with very provocative, unethical fascist governments. I mean, Benjamin Netanyahu is a total nationalist fascist. Vladimir Putin is a murderous, psychopathic dictator. And it's like they just he wants this Nobel Peace Prize so bad, Trump, because Obama got it. And it's just amazing that he's found so many dipshits that just sit around and tell him, yeah, buddy, you should have gotten the prize.

33:53Yeah, you've solved eight, nine wars. And by the way, these people are personally profiting off of these fake peace agreements that they're making. So Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, they're making millions of dollars with crypto. Jared Kushner got$2 billion from the government of Saudi Arabia. And by the way, Jamal Khashoggi was reporting on Jared Kushner giving MBS classified material when he was murdered. And so there's a lot of nasty, nasty stuff going on where they are personally insanely corrupt. Yeah, this is where Trump says that those things happen in the interview the other day about the murder.

34:27That's right. Apparently, there's a phone call, too, by the way, that's supposed to come out soon of Trump in the wake of Khashoggi being murdered, where there's some damning phone call that comes out where he says, Lord only knows what, because Jared Kushner may have been involved in this. Trump may have been involved in this because they're trying to protect MBS, too, because they have business dealings with him. You know, it would seem like one of the things with Trump, how do you sort of combat someone who lies so much? Like there's so many lies, so much disinformation that's put out every single day.

34:56You've just mentioned a few of the different news cycles of events. Like you could literally just go down a rabbit hole trying to combat these things over and over and over. I don't think that I know that we saw Ty Cobb gave an interview the other day where he said our Constitution is not equipped for a person to defend against, like someone like President Trump. how do you respond to that how do we how do we respond to that so i i i think it's honestly shameless ruthless endless mockery at this point there's like no other way to handle it when you're this far through the looking glass and when is this absurd on a daily basis where every day you're dealing with like 12 impeachable new things that he does like what is there to do but like point at it laugh mock them you know i i see no other way around it because certainly you know, the tutting and finger wagging and we're holier than thou approach.

35:45That didn't work. You got to get in the mud with them and you got to expose them for what they are. And I think here's something, and I want to run this by you all. I think we need to start a complete hit job on Fox News via memes and social media clips that brand people that watch Fox News as, you know, dipshit morons, like really go at them. I'm talking basket of deplorable, low IQ rubes. And I think we could do a coordinated effort to just really, because this is the mothership of a lot of it, because Fox News viewers typically are voters. A lot of the people that listen to like, you know, some of these hardcore like Alex Jones podcasts, these people are not regular voters.

36:28These people came out to vote for Trump, but these people are, you know, like rapture preppers and, you know, they've got a lot of other activities out in the woods that they've got going on. Another thing that I think we need to message, and I don't know why fucking Democrats don't do this, is the failures of Republican super majorities in red states like Oklahoma, where Josh and I are sitting right now. We are ranked like 43rd, 46th out of all 50 states. Our governor is in the middle of his second term. Prior to him was this dipshit named Mary Fallon, who had Republican majorities. And each time we have each year, we go down and down and down.

37:07And I don't know why we are not Gavin Newsom is doing it to an extent. But this should be a massive effort with Democrats, reissuing a 50 state strategy and starting to really go in and changing the culture in red states, because the culture in red states right now is if you're a Democrat, you're a demon. And they literally believe in like spiritual warfare and all this shit. And the Democrats have got to go back into these red states to dull a lot of this propaganda that you have been fucking lied to since Ronald Reagan. And they used your faith to scare you and to weaponize against you. And it's just it might we might lose three or four election cycles.

37:51But I think it has to happen. I mean, there's just there's no democratic infrastructure in a state like Oklahoma. None. They've just abandoned it. And people have gotten worse. And then I think it makes the Democratic Party look like we lose credibility. We only care about states where we can win a majority when you have to have a 50-state strategy. And all 77, I'm sorry, Kyle, to interrupt you, all 77 counties here in Oklahoma went for Donald Trump. They're all Republican. So if anyone here, if you look around and you don't like your circumstances, you don't like the economy, you don't like your life, the Democrats have done a horrible job of messaging.

38:27Then who do you blame for that? It's all of the elected Republicans in your hometown, on your city council, at the state level. They're all Republicans. How in the world do Democrats have anything to do with your demise or your situation? That's what we live with. So Bernie floated the idea of running in red states as an independent, that the Democratic brand is so tarnished in deep red states that you may as well run as an independent and basically caucus with the Democrats and basically run on an unapologetically populist economic message. and honestly that I think is a winning strategy I think we got super close with that guy Dan Osborne he did that to an extent the success of Plattner in Maine I think is another good example of of a similar thing although he is running as a Democrat to be fair but you know to your point it should be easy to defeat these people because this I mean they are objectively harming people's lives on a daily basis and then when you look at some of the blue states like you look at what's happening with Tim Walls in Minnesota, for example, this is a guy who with a one seat majority, he delivered universal free school breakfast for kids, universal free school lunch.

39:40He legalized weed. He did tax rebates for the working class. He did 12 weeks paid family leave and 12 weeks paid sick leave. He did free college for families that make under$80 ,000 a year. He did sectoral bargaining for nursing home workers. So their wages went up. So you put a Democrat in there And it is just wall to wall wins. And then the approval rating skyrockets. So it's really one of those things where it's like you just got to get a toe in the door. And then, you know, all of a sudden things might change and Democrats might actually have a shot. All right. Here's one of the grievances you emailed with us beforehand.

40:11And I think this one is so hilarious. You said, I've had it with conservatives not understanding land doesn't vote. yes i'm sure you've seen the meme before but like republicans will do this seemingly every week somebody will post like well you're telling me democrats almost won with a map like this and you'll see like a lot of red on the map and then like dots of blue and these people are genuinely dumb enough where they think like like what are you talking about republicans are way more popular look at this look at this and it's like no land doesn't vote like the the blue dots are where all of the fucking people live right there's like 17 people in this giant swath of red and there's like millions of people in the dot of blue.

40:50How do you not understand this? Population density is like a very, very simple concept, but they genuinely and sincerely don't get it. And that to me is mind-boggling because like, it's like I'm debating toddlers here. Like, what am I doing? I'm wasting my time. I think you've answered the question for how we got Trump second term. You're also debating toddlers based in Nigeria. Let's just go ahead. Right. You know, a lot of the people that are posting this shit. Another thing you said you'd had it with are conservatives not understanding marginal tax rates. My entire life, and I'm not kidding, I've been doing this full time since 2012, my entire life doing this.

41:29Not a single one has known what marginal tax rates are. Not a single one. A marginal tax rate is if they say, oh, we're going to do a 90 percent tax rate or a 70 percent tax rate conservatives, their brain shuts down and they go, oh, my God, the government's taking all of my money. No, that is for above a certain line. So if I make$6 million a year, let's say, right, the first$5 million is taxed at a lower rate. And for every dollar above that$5 million mark per year, that's taxed at 70 % or 90 % or whatever the line is. None of them seem to get it. And what's so crazy is if we had high marginal tax rates, we could fully fund the social safety net and their lives would objectively be better.

42:08You would have a fully funded, you know, Medicaid system, Medicare system. You'd be able to have, you know, food stamps fully funded, for example. And like they're actively arguing against their well-being by not understanding what marginal tax rates are and opposing high marginal tax rates. It's amazing to me. I remember when George W. Bush was running the second time. Josh had a criminal case somewhere out in rural Oklahoma because he's a criminal defense lawyer. And we were just so mad all the time. We fucking hated Dick Cheney. We hated George Bush. I look back on those problems now as kind of quaint.

42:46But he comes home and he's like, you're not going to fucking believe what I saw at the gas station. So I saw this woman. She had like, you know, 10 kids in her car, no car seats. None of the kids had shoes on. Car was an old clunker. And I mean, it could barely even, you know, start. And she had a Bush Cheney sticker on her car. And, you know, this is something that is so dominated in rural America. Our son last year, he was a senior in high school and he played basketball in all these rural Oklahoma towns. And as you got closer to these towns, like I remember we pulled up to the school And this guy gets out of this big truck, had Trump, you know, Trump and like, you know, like militia type stickers on the back of it.

43:32Like I'm a big boy and I have my big boy gun and my big boy truck. And he gets out and his shirt said, Jesus, strong, Trump, tough. And I thought, you know, I bet that hits so fucking hard out here. You know, I bet that fucking hits so hard out here. And I think this is where if the Democrats, whether it's Bernie Sanders idea of running independence, going into these places and saying what Josh said, if you don't like your life, you have no one to blame except for Republicans because they've been in charge of this state for 20 years. The last time we had a Democratic governor, his name was Brad Henry.

44:13We were ranked 17th in the nation in education, 17th. Since then, we are now dropped each year worse and worse and worse and worse. And now we're ranked 50th in the country. And we used to have a superintendent of school who, as a side hustle, sat in his car all the time, Ryan Walters, and filmed about his obsession with genitals and trans people. And it's just, it's wild how rural America, like they believe that land votes and they don't understand that they're being taxed at a higher rate than somebody like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk, who I want to remind everybody that's against immigration, is a fucking immigrant.

44:58I just think it's really important to remind everybody all the time that Elon Musk is a fucking immigrant that doesn't pay taxes, who is a parasite off the American taxpayer. And what? Go ahead, Kyle. I was going to say, well, you're exactly right. And also the entire right wing agenda, the whole point of it is tax cuts for the rich, right? Especially at the state level and at the federal level. And so what ends up happening is the working class gets a higher tax rate. The wealthy get a lower tax rate. You underfund education. You underfund all of the social services. Their lives get objectively worse.

45:32And it's all because Republicans have done this trick now for a generation where they talk about we're going to cut taxes, we're going to cut taxes, we're going to cut taxes. And working class people might think, oh, they're talking about me. They want me to have my money in my pocket more. But that's not true. They're talking about people like Elon Musk. They're talking about, you know, multimillionaires and billionaires. And that's the entire agenda. As soon as people wake up and realize the problem affecting your life in a negative way, it's not black people, it's not trans people, it's not immigrants.

45:59It's the billionaires and the fascists and the warmongers. As soon as they realize that, then we'll really, you know, have our moment in the sun. Don't you all think there has been a real shift though lately? Because I think the Trump administration has blown their wad really quickly. And the showboating and grandstanding of wealth in this administration is like nothing I've ever seen. The Marie Antoinette redo of old queen, I think he's just an old queen, Donald Trump listening to Phantom of the Opera redoing at the Oval Office. He's building this ridiculous ballroom, which I'm so grateful that every donor wants to put their name in the ballroom because I want those motherfuckers name to go down forever as funders of fascism and people who refuse to defend the humanity and the rights of their fellow Americans.

46:47But just the disgusting display of wealth by the magnificent seven people that own all the AI and Donald Trump taking the plane, billion dollars, I think it's kind of backfiring. And I think the soil is completely primed for a real fuck you rage economic populist takeover of the electorate. And I think it's an opportunity for Democrats as far as we have to remind ourselves so that day to day people get they don't have time to go down three or four rabbit holes to get their information or their news. They get it quickly. And so we have to take advantage of a way to message. We're given these layups with we're right on all the issues like we've talked about.

47:30But it's how do we message that in a way that reaches a lot of these people, whether it's in rural America or in bigger cities? because people, there's so much disinformation out there, and that's by design for us not to be able to give succinct pieces of factual information for people to rely and make judgments on. So there's so much out there. I think you're right. And we're now fighting in that information environment. We're trying to give people like, you know, the bite-sized factual information that keeps them fully informed, even though it's in a shorter amount of time. So we're fighting on that battlefield.

48:04But at the same time, Jennifer, to your point, yeah, I think the thing that actually woke a lot of Americans up, and the polling reflects this, is the Great Gatsby party that Trump had as he was freezing food stamps and freezing 94 million pounds of food aid from going to food banks. So that was one thing that woke him up. And the other thing is the wanton destruction of the East Wing illegally, casually, so he can build his Jeffrey Epstein memorial ballroom. And so that's the thing because Americans are going, holy shit, inflation is out of control. My groceries cost way more than they did before.

48:37I'm having a hard time paying the rent or paying the light bill or whatever it is. And they're looking at Trump and they're going, you're having a great Gatsby party? You're having a roaring 20s party? What happened after the roaring 20s, you dipshit? It was the Great Depression. It was the Great Depression. Like, what are you celebrating? So I think that was really a moment. And we're getting closer. We're getting closer to that point. I mean, people have already soured on Trump's immigration agenda, but that was like his big sell during the election where he polled well on immigration. But now we're getting to the point where he's underwater on that.

49:07And then again, our main thing, and every Democrat needs to hammer this narrative home, is the problem is the billionaires. They're the problem. Repeat that over and over and over until people realize they're the reason your life sucks. They're the parasites. I mean, these are the people who are parasitic, the loopholes. And when you think about the benefit that Walmart gets from us subsidizing their inability and their lack of morals and principle and decency to pay their workers a livable wage, and we subsidize it when we give them food stamps, Medicare, Medicaid, but also Jeff Bezos' use of infrastructure to support Amazon, he should be paying a massive infrastructure tax, a massive infrastructure tax.

49:50His trucks are all over the place, beating down streets and roads. And he is basically operates, fights, you know, people that want to unionize. And he pays a shit ton of money to Donald Trump so that he doesn't have to pay taxes. Yeah. And think of think of Elon Musk. He has taken tens of billions of dollars from the federal government. And what's he doing? He's cutting pediatric cancer research and meals on wheels. I mean, think about the optics of that. The world's richest man who just got a trillion dollar pay package, by the way, he's going to be the world's first trillionaire. That guy is cutting pediatric cancer research and Meals on Wheels as he's taking like 30 plus billion dollars from U.S.

50:33taxpayers. So his rockets explode 48 times. Like, what are we doing here? What are we doing? It's unbelievable. And another thing we were talking about earlier that I wanted to ask you about, Kyle, is do you think that the government's sort of acquiescence on this shutdown, the seven or eight Democrats that voted in favor? You think that was a missed opportunity again where the Democrats were on a winning position and about 70 or 80 percent there with it. And it was at a point in time when Trump's numbers were tanking. You know, the Republicans controlled everything. The Epstein files were an issue.

51:07All of that was sort of because I remember reading that not in the day to day. No. And just just being really pissed off, being mad. Well, 100 percent. They absolutely messed up. They absolutely messed up because either the Republicans would have had to fold at some point or if they didn't fold, what they would have done is nuked the filibuster. But that's good. I'm OK with them doing that because they're only going to get a small window where they can get anything through, even with nuking the filibuster. And then when we get power back, we can actually make a real change with no filibuster anymore.

51:35And so they really messed up this opportunity. And I got to be honest, I actually think they probably would have folded to one extent or another. They would have offered at least a year or so of the Obamacare subsidies extended, but they would have wanted to do it like let's call it a different name or let's like relabel it and let's call it Trump subsidies or something like that. And then they would have been fine with it. So we were right there. And of course, Chuck Schumer rushed in to bail out the Republicans like he always does. And that's the problem, right, is we just had a mandate in that election.

52:02Like people want you to fight. They voted for a Democrat who was like joking about murdering his political opponent. And you think they want you to go in there and like immediately cave to these people? That's psychotic. They want you to go to town against them. And it was just like, why did we do it? We have all of this momentum, these elections, we have, you know, all the poll numbers, all this stuff. And then you read that and you just think, now, why am I a part of this party? Why, why, why are we doing this? And you just want to bash my head against a wall. Totally. It's a ghost ship and we got to board that ghost ship and take control of it.

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56:42All right, Kyle, let's play our world-famous game, Had it or hit it? Oh my God. Welcome to had it or hit it. I would hit it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. All right. Had it or hit it. Zionism. Oh my God. I've absolutely had it with Zionism. It's the one version of an ethnostate that everybody has to say they support. I mean, that's insane to me. Any other version of an ethnostate, everybody's like, well, hold on. An ethno state by definition is against democracy and against secularism. But we have one example where you go, well, this one gets a special exemption. No, it doesn't. We see what happens when you have a state based on that.

57:21What happens? You have genocide in Gaza. You have now the West Bank is being taken over. You have Israel trying to create greater Israel because they believe in an ethnic hierarchy and supremacy where they're above everybody else. Well, this is the end result of that. So everybody should just stand in principle against all ethno states. Yeah. So I, like you said, I, in principle, as an atheist, somebody who thinks religion has screwed up so much of everything, I was against Zionism. But my opposition to Zionism has accelerated like you wouldn't believe after hearing Zionists speak. speak. One in particular, former Obama speechwriter, Sarah Hurwitz, I believe her name is.

57:59And I've watched her speak in three different places now. And this woman, it's a level of brainwash cult psychosis in which she speaks that is so jarring. It's almost worse. Living in the Bible belt, you hear a bunch of evangelicals say a bunch of crazy shit about spiritual warfare. What she's saying is almost worse. Like, I think it is worse because she's saying when she talks about the wall of dead children, she acts like you just need to ignore that so we can continue to move forward with whatever their ethnic cleansing plan is. And it's just disturbing to see these people on a stage and it's produced and they're sitting in chairs and they look very civilized discussing this carnage and being so dismissive of it.

58:50And it's made me be like the biggest opposer of Zionism on the planet. Like the more Zionists speak, the more I fucking hate them. I think they're absolute monsters. Totally. Totally. And that same woman said she's turning on Holocaust education because Holocaust education is making people see Palestinians with more humanity and realize that when we say never again, we should mean never again for everybody. She says the younger generation has been poisoned by that mindset. What we need to realize, according to her, is that the Holocaust education should be about teaching that Jews are special victims.

59:23So they have special victim status. And like when we say never again, we actually mean just for us. That's what she means when she says that. She's on stage saying this. How condescending to tell younger Jews, which I've had a conversation with many since I moved to New York. And there's a definite generational divide where the older Jewish people tend to be more Zionist. They were more radically indoctrinated into thinking this under the dark cloud of the Holocaust. And they valued Israel as directly linked to Jewish safety and to opposing anti-Semitism. The younger generation, less indoctrinated, more critically thinking, I think it's very condescending to tell them they can't care about this genocide and they can't care about Palestinians.

1:00:12And I further think that these Zionists that are alleged liberals or Democrats or former Obama aides have to atone or explain to us how they have allowed this bullshit argument that the Trump administration is using, which is anti-Semitism on college campuses, to go and then do a complete shakedown of these universities and then start censoring speech. And the more you censor speech, the more you're incubating anti-Semitism, racism, all of this stuff. And they need to explain this because it seems to me like these people are just walking, talking contradictions, hypocrites, sociopaths of the highest order.

1:00:55Yeah, how quickly they threw out all the concern about free speech when it came to this one issue, right? We heard nonstop for years about, oh, free speech is the most important thing. Stop telling comedians what they can and cannot say. The second it was free speech to criticize Israel, all of a sudden, that's anti-Semitic. We got to shut it down. It's over. And so, yes, they've just been exposed as colossal hypocrites. But I think that the public has come around to our position and it's only a matter of time until Democrats do. I mean, you've done a great job of this, Jennifer, where you've now made it basically a litmus test that if you're a Democrat and you're taking APAC money, you're not really a Democrat.

1:01:30You're diet MAGA, you know. Right. And so they're going to have to wake up or be left in the dustbin of history. I completely agree. And I just also I think it's it's very the whole Zionism Israel conversation becomes so consuming and it gets prioritized in such a high regard that it leaves a lot of other marginalized human rights groups that we need to advocate for, like anti-black racism and the anti-immigrant sentiment, which has actual actions that are parallel exactly with Nazi Germany, where you see America's American citizens. citizens or brown-skinned immigrants in this country kidnapped by Trump's Gestapo with the puppy goat killer, Kristi Noem, leading the charge when she confitted in between photo shoots.

1:02:18And the fact that I don't hear the Sarah Hurwitz of the world prioritizing what's happening to those people in this country right now the most. And she's putting these her own personal desires for Israel over everything else to me tells me she doesn't really value human rights. She values human rights the same way Marjorie Taylor Greene does, which is they cherry pick which ones are important. I mean, and I wish somebody would get Marjorie Taylor Greene in front of them and just say, hey, who won the 2020 election? Hey, what do you think about gay marriage? because then her rebranding tour is going to start unraveling.

1:02:58What's interesting about her, too, is that she decides to resign after one week of catching shit from MAGA. And you and Kyle have been doing this forever in the trenches, taking all the MAGA hits. And it's like, really? You get one week of it and you're out? We have to fight this shit every single day. That's right. Do you think she's going to run? Do you guys think she's going to run for president in 2028? It's going to be Carlson, Tucker Carlson at the top of the ticket. Marjorie Taylor Greene at the bottom. Marjorie Taylor Greene is rolling out exactly Trump's plan that he did in 2015 into 2016.

1:03:32She's starting to attack Republicans. That's exactly what Trump did. Little Marco, low energy Jeb. She's doing all of that. But she's also combining it with an economic populist message. She is a total anti-Semite. She is a total Jew hater. She doesn't give a shit about linking anti-Black racism, transphobia to anti-Semitism to Islamophobia. She's all down with some forms of racism. But she knows that the America First agenda has an Israel problem on both sides, and she's going to message it as such. And I think she's going to run along with Tucker. And I think they're both already. They see that Trump completely ruined the Republican Party.

1:04:20But I think you're going to see people like Nikki Haley. She's going to be rebirthed and be like, I want to bring back compassionate conservatism and get back to Ronald Reagan. You know, Ted Cruz. We know he's going to run. Yeah. Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz. OK, here's that. Everybody fucking hates Ted Cruz. Like his neighbors hate him. They were leaking to the press when he went to Cancun. His fucking neighbors were anonymous sources in the story in the paper that he is such a piece of shit. But I mean, I kind of I'm excited for Ted Cruz to run again because I think he's great content. The King Coon video is just too good.

1:04:56He's wearing like these outdated dad jeans, you know, in the video. And he's got like some, you know, beach shirt on. And God, it was just so great. And he's leaning into supporting Israel, too. That's his thing is he's saying I represent old school conservatism like George W. Bush style or Ronald Reagan style. And I don't think that's going to land, especially because young conservatives are about 50 percent against Israel. And so that's not the future of the party. All the Israel supporters are like 80 years old on the right. You know, here's the thing to Marjorie Taylor Greene is outflanking the Democrats right now because Hakeem and Chuckles take so much APAC money and they haven't completely evolved out of it yet.

1:05:34But when she you live in a red county ish, we're from a red state when she says very simply. And so imagine you're on your Instagram and you see Kat and then you see, you know, some funny meme and then you see Marjorie Taylor Greene and she says, we have sent Israel billions of dollars and we also then thus subsidize their health care. They don't go into medical debt. We also pay for their kids to go to college and they don't have to go into medical debt and we pay for that. That hits fucking hard in flyover states. That shit hits so fucking hard and it's a very simple message. Now, the Democrats would try to go in and explain why Marjorie Taylor Greene is wrong, and they'd give all these nuanced answers.

1:06:17She's really an anti-Semitic. When Democrats should make the exact same message that we cannot fund a fascist regime to kill a bunch of kids, and then they do have a lot of these benefits that we don't have. And I don't besmirch anybody for having health care. I want all citizens of all of the world to have such a thing. But she's outflanking the Democrats on that stuff. And I hope that they catch up. You could just say America first, not Israel first. I mean, that's what she says. Yeah. She has it on her door at Congress. Yeah. OK, well, that makes sense because I think that's a pretty clean, clear message.

1:06:54Yeah, I think I think the Democrats are waking up to some of that stuff. I saw a bunch of attacking Trump over giving$40 billion to Argentina while he's freezing the food stamp money and starving people. And that same line of argument applies across the board when it comes to Israel as well, giving them billions of dollars as they massacre innocent Palestinians. I think there's something there. And I think that the main message has to be it's the billionaires, it's the fascists, it's the warmongers. They are the problem. And we need to defeat them in order for you to have a better life. It's got nothing to do with trans people are not the problem.

1:07:25Black people are not the problem. Immigrants are not the problem. et cetera, et cetera. They're the real problem. And Jewish people are not the problem. I mean, I think that provides cover from a political strategy point that, you know, a lot of Democrats are fearful of Jewish voters because there is a generational divide and they are typically big donors to their campaigns. And I think it's important that Zoran did it really well and he won, but he linked antisemitism to Islamophobia, to all of the other things and then, and factored it in with affordability. Like our affordability plan is for everybody.

1:07:59That includes Jewish people, that includes Muslim Americans, that includes, you know, whatever type of American you are. If you're trans American, then our affordable, our affordability plan works for you. And if you don't like that MAGA, tough titties, go stick with the billionaires. See how much they like you. And he made clear we're pro Jew and anti Zionist. Exactly. Like that, that's our stance is we, we love Jewish people, but we're against Zionism and that lands. People understand that distinction. Yeah. Okay. Moving along. Had it or hid it, MAGA bot farms. Oh, MAGA bot farms. I've obviously, actually, you know what?

1:08:33I'm going to surprise you. I hid it because it's hilarious. It's hilarious. It's too easy now. You go, anybody says anything from one of these big MAGA accounts and it's like, okay, but you're in Pakistan right now. You're in a basement in Nigeria. Like, who are we kidding? I actually sort of love it because it just exposes. The sad part of it is we were psyoped into fascism in this country because because everybody was under the impression that this wave of pro-MAGA stuff online, that to one extent or another, there's like a sincere core there, but there's really not. It was basically like this massive psyop.

1:09:05You trick the entire country into thinking. It was basically like fake it till you make it. Like, oh, look, there's so much MAGA stuff. And then people were like, I guess I'm on board with the MAGA stuff. And it's like, really? This is where we're at now where we get like, you know, dragged around by the tail from people in fucking India messing with us to make some money. It's kind of crazy if you think about it. Yeah, it's kind of perfect, too, really. I mean, in our culture that the MAGA policy is being dictated or governed by these people in Nigeria. And all their MAGA merch is made in China.

1:09:32And all the flags on the profiles and their banners, you know, it's like the American flag everywhere. It's almost just kind of perfect, really. People are doing like Fuentes Nazi accounts and they're in India. What is this? OK, had it or hit it. RFK Jr.'s poetry. tree oh my god i'm gonna surprise you again i hit it because it's hilarious it is gross i don't know if you guys saw that piece from ryan liza yeah ryan liza explained that he found text messages between rfk and his ex-fiance olivia nuzzi and where he learned unfortunately he had to learn what the term felching meant so felching i don't know how how dark i can go on this show here you tell me if I got the green light here but go for it felching is when uh you come inside a pussy or an asshole and then you eat out your own cum from said pussy or asshole and rfk was talking about this to olivia nuzzy and by the way they claim oh we only had a texting relationship I call bullshit on that immediately because you don't go from zero to felching in fucking texts right like there's got to be some real life stuff in between am i wrong so rfk is texting about this felching with this woman yes yes and and you know what's hilarious i saw somebody who had this tweet i thought it was hilarious they said rfk wants to ban you from having red m &ms but he'll come out of an asshole how can he say anything after that like you need to just not be able to say anything that's amazing um the one thing i learned from that story was the fact that mark sanford is still alive yes i didn't know that fucking guy was still around i mean the last i knew he had taken off to the mountains or something and he's still he's still with us that guy disappeared he was the story for like a week or two everybody was talking about it he disappeared in the appalachian mountains and now now he's back who's gonna be olivia nuzzy olivia nuzzy by the way i don't know if there's somebody in politics that she hasn't slept with apparently she was with keith olbermann too when keith was 50 she was 18 years old that keith man that's a bad look bro i don't know what you're doing there yeah and the thing about this story is is obviously nobody cares how many people olivia nuzzi sleeps with it's sleeping with like sources the journalists crossing that line that's where the integrity issue is and she seemed to do that time and time again it's just sprinkled in with all these little tidbits of juice with felching mark sanford being around somewhere like in some thread that the husband you know finds out about he's reading he's i didn't even now that guy was still alive honestly um she also by the way made a song when she was 16 years old and it's called jailbait and she sings about how she's jailbait because she's such a 60 year old it's crazy it is crazy and now i think vanity fair had hired her and now they're looking into whether or not they're going to keep her or let her go because ryan liza he's got a lot more in the chamber too he said look i got more for you you guys better she's really attractive i mean i've seen pictures i've never seen her in person i've seen pictures of her she's gorgeous okay I'm going to list your how did her hit it and then I'm going to put a question attached to it it's how did her hit it Hakeem Jeffries and then after you answer that I want you to address the following Zoran and AOC have signaled that they don't want him primaried so answer both of those I've had it with all of that I mean it's just to me it's terrible he doesn't know how to fight he's diet MAGA he's bought by corporations and by APAC for Zoran and AOC, I get what they're trying to do.

1:13:05What they're saying is, hey, we're in here now. We're trying to make a positive change in order to do that. We need to have allies on the more centrist side, so let us cook. That's basically their argument. But I don't buy it because Zoran is mayor of New York City. He doesn't have to work through Hakeem Jeffries. AOC is only going to be in Congress not that much longer because he's either going to run for Senate or run for president. You don't need this man. So to me, it seems like overkill. If Zoran had said, look, I'm not going to go after Kathy Hochul because I have to work through her. I get that because it's true.

1:13:30She might be the one you have to get your agenda through. I get that. But this is not Kathy Hochul. This is Hakeem Jeffries, who's like, just like Chuck Schumer in how ineffectual he is in fighting back against MAGA. And so I just want them to tell me, give me a good reason why you're doing this. Tell me what it is. Is there some fundraising mechanism that I don't understand that has to go through them and they can quash your agenda like that with the push of a button? Let me know, because otherwise what people are going to start saying is, really, did you sell out this quickly? did you like go soft this quickly and i don't want people thinking that because these are the best that we have at the moment and there are they're allies to an extent and so we need to be fully kept in the loop here and i don't feel like we are being kept in the loop i agree with that and because i feel like with hakeem there there are moments where i'm like okay all right and then there's a lot of moments where i'm like hakeem what the fuck like he needs to hire a really good social media manager.

1:14:27Whoever's doing it right now is not great. And he needs to, I think, come on more podcasts. He's been on ours before, but I wasn't as attuned to the APEC stuff at the time. I think I asked him about it, but I didn't really get in that ass like I should have. And I'd like to have him come back on. We can ask him to come back on. But here's where I stand with this. We have the politicians that we have. And if we have Hakeem and it's clear that he's going to win, even if he gets primaried, which I think all of these centrist Democrats should be primaried to either make them tougher and a little bit further to the left and iron out some of the kinks or the primary wins.

1:15:04I think all of these people should be primary. I agree with David Hogg on that. But Hakeem, there's just something. It's the pick me situation that bugs me. It's like, oh, pick me. You know, he has a lot of word salad platitude answers that really drive me fucking crazy. And if I hear the words strongly worded letter from any from any person, any person like I think that should be as disqualifying as APAC. If you say that you're going to fight Donald Trump in his dipshit squad with a strongly worded letter, I'm just going to lose my fucking mind. So true. It's so true. And like, what are you what are you doing this for?

1:15:47That's the thing to me is like, I need to be able to feel why you're doing this, why you're a politician, why you care. And look, for virtually everybody on the right, you get the you get the sense. Oh, these are genuinely hateful motherfuckers like they fucking hate liberals. They hate trans people. They hate immigrants. They have a real driving force of like, fuck you. We're going to make this a Christian nation, a white nation. Yeah, they're about that life. Whereas on the Democratic side, to your point, you do get the pick me sense. You get the we're the teacher's pet who are like, I'm trying to be a careerist and climb the ladder and get my name up there.

1:16:20It's like, that's not enough. I need to feel like you're in this for universal health care and free college and a living wage and ending the wars and ending the corruption. Like, I need to feel it in my bones that you're about that life and you want to take the fight to the billionaires and the fascists and the warmongers. And unfortunately, there's just not that many where you really get that that sense that like that revolutionary spirit is sort of flowing through them. Where you have that level of conviction, but you also don't care what other people think. That's the second part of that is that you're going to take a stance and you don't care if it's unpopular to a certain extent, if you think it's right.

1:16:55That's the part that's missing. That's attractive. That's so attractive too. AOC answered this. There was a town hall before the elections with she and Bernie Sanders. And they asked her about MAGA people disliking her. And she said, they can dislike me all they want, but I'm still going to fight for them to have health care. And that was a really, really, really good answer. It was something that I think could penetrate these people. Totally. And just to say, look, I disagree with you. Your votes make me sick. They make me want to vomit, actually. I mean, all day long. But I'm going to fight for your fat ass to have health care and to have access to good things because I don't believe in suffering in the richest country on the planet.

1:17:40And I thought that was a really, really good point. so i don't know i mean we have a pack shakur we're just gonna have to keep pushing him you know i think he is gonna get primaried and i think it'll be good for him and he'll either win or he'll get his ass beat it'll be interesting to see where it goes okay two more had it or hit it bubba gate oh bubba gate oh i'll hit that all day that's amazing because whatever the whatever the explanation is it opened up the door for us to speculate like crazy which is glorious we're talking about Trump blowing Bill Clinton. We're talking about Trump blowing a horse.

1:18:15We're talking about Trump blowing some other random guy named Bubba. Like what's to not like? I love it so much. I've always loved a gay Republican scandal. I mean, back in the day from Larry Craig going to the airport, that conservative senator that did the tapping, you know, to the stall next door because he wanted to go eat ass and then go to Washington the next day and do all this, you know, family values bullshit. So Mark Foley, I think was that Mark Foley. That may have been Mark Foley. Larry Craig. Well, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, I think he's another gay Republican or Christian. Yeah. Right.

1:18:46Yeah. And so I love this so much because I had long felt like Donald Trump presented like an old queen. And I have excellent gaydar. And then Trump 2.0, he comes in and you start seeing the decorating projects, the music, the, you know, you saw what happened after he met Zoran, which clearly there's a pattern. This man likes dark skinned men. We saw how he was with the Prince of Saudi. I hadn't seen him that happy. He's never that happy around Elon. God knows, God knows JD Vance is in his taste. This, this man, this old queen president of ours doesn't really like, I think attracted to Caucasians.

1:19:28I mean, you see him get very excited around brown-skinned people with it culminating with the just absolute crush on Zoran. And then the next day, he did a little makeover. He had his little scarf on, you know, like he was going to the gay bar that night and his hair was a little bit poofier. I'm telling you, this man likes brown-skinned men. He also, have you seen those clips of him, the compilations where he's talking about they got this big, strong, beautiful guy. Have you seen this man? big broad shoulders straight out of central casting good looking guy look at this guy i'll kiss all you and even that guy there's all these amazing clips of him just riffing and letting the truth come out from time to time so i am totally there i'm going by i think trump is by that's my guess you're going by you see i think i i think that it's i don't know i mean i could go by but i definitely for sure thinks that he likes men and the whole maga movement i think there is just so much DL homosexuality in it.

1:20:29All the Photoshopped pictures. I think even the broadcasting space, these men have other men on. They're happiest in homosocial settings.

1:20:43I'm going to be a big boy boot camp. Have you ever gone down the rabbit hole on those where if they go to alpha male boot camps. It's all gay. They do all this wrestling. It's so homoerotic. I think the whole movement, and I just think there's a lot of DL demon Queens in the, uh, MAGA movement. You've got JD Vance. You have the out of the closet DL demon queen, uh, Scott Besant. Um, I think, um, uh, who are the others that I'm always, Oh, the speaker, Moses, Mike grinder, Johnson is the biggest queen on the planet you know marco rubio in the bubble bath remember that marco rubio yeah uh-huh there's a lot of them and i just think there's a lot of either i think a lot of the maga hyper sexuality stuff is my theory is a lot of like straight men have watched porn and then they see like a hard penis and that was the moment where they got excited and so they like it that was kind of fun then they think oh my god i'm gay and maybe they're not maybe they just liked in that exact moment a penis because it's not so binary and then you have all we have to go through all of this suffering because these people refuse to go to therapy you made a great point about the hyper uh masculinization thing where you have you'll see these podcasts and they'll be in like you know an all wood room and they'll have like a fucking camo hat on and they got this big phallic cigar that they're puffing on and it's and they're all on steroids by the way just like rfk he's 70 fucking years old that's why he's talking about felching because he's 70 years old steroids and And so he's horny.

1:22:13The Kennedys already have a high libido and then he added steroids on top of it. So he's going to be talking until he's in the grave, basically. But like you see these guys and between the steroids and the cigars and the camo and that we're going on hunting trips and we're going to fucking man you up and come to our boot camp. It all just screams gay. It just screams gay. It's very it's the overcompensation thing, right? It's the same reason there were studies that said the people who are very vocally anti-gay are they did a study where like they attached electrodes to their dick and they got hard when they watch gay porn.

1:22:43so they're yeah so they're they're gay and they you know they internalize the shame from a very christian culture and that's how they that's how they try to protect themselves to be like oh that's disgusting that's gross it the overcompensation thing i wonder when the world is going to catch on to that and when these guys are going to realize you look more suspect that way bro because you look at a guy like me i got fucking bleached blonde hair i'm wearing makeup right this second and every time i do a show i'm wearing makeup and i'm the straightest motherfucker on the planet right and so they got to break free of this mindset that like if i'm jacked and i got the camo and the cigar and everything then i seem really straight it's like actually no that's when the gaydar starts going a little bit because i think they're projecting what they think straight men want and what straight men like where straight men you know like are not just this one stereotype and that's just like a real red flag to me but i think that's just a whole problem with this and you and you pegged it when you link it to the Christianity and the shame surrounding all of that because I just think we got a bunch of queens and I just think I mean Donald Trump I think okay you know old people in your lives Kyle right as they start to die they start talking a lot loose lips sink ships and so you'll have like a parent that will be like you were always my favorite child or I never liked you right I think we're about a year away from and Trump will never not be on camera.

1:24:07That motherfucker has to be on camera all the time. Somebody's going to get him in an interview on a podcast and he is going to say, you know what? That love affair I had with Bubba and he gave the best blow job. Boy, that son of a bitch could suck the chrome off of a tailpipe. I tell you. And I think it's going to be one of the more glorious days for America, because then we can use that to say, MAGA, we're so happy to know that you're not anti-gay. you worshiped this man this old queen all the signs were there all the time he's blaring phantom of the opera come on better looking than tom cruise he says that all the time guys better looking than tom cruise maybe i'll make the revelation on i've had it podcast maybe i would love it i would live for it amazing and remember when he was on the campaign trail he gave that microphone a blow job with i mean a familiarity there was a familiarity to the technique that cannot be discounted okay last one and he thought one more thing hold on he talked about arnold palmer's cock i can't not bring that so excited about it he was as excited talking about the cock as he was glare staring up at zoran it was a whole story it was a story he spoke for five minutes where the punchline was arnold palmer's dick yeah he was excited about it too he was excited okay last one had it or hit it the united states of america this one's a tough one and i I heard you ask, I think it was Hassan Piker or maybe Emma Vigeland, this question.

1:25:30And me and Crystal were listening to the podcast when picking up the kids. And we actually were discussing it a little bit. And she said she'd hit it. I got to be honest with you. I'm more, I've had it at this point. And the reason I say that is because I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever seen a situation where we went this low. I mean, Trump opened up concentration camps. He had alligator Auschwitz sending people to Seacott. Where, by the way, people were graped at Seacott. And there's detailed reporting on that. You also have, like we talked about before, the warmongering, trying to overthrow Venezuela, bombing Iran, doing a fake peace agreement in Gaza as Palestinians continue to get murdered on a daily basis.

1:26:09The stupid trade war, which is just absolutely jacking up prices, unemployment's going up, the billionaires taking over the country. You got all these horrible things. And I never thought in my wildest dreams it could get this bad. So I'm very like, I'm very disgusted with our political system, but also a little disgusted too, with sort of the passivity of the public. So in this moment, I'd say I've had it, but that's all the more reason, like, I don't want to say that and it to be like a negative thing. That's all the more reason to try to fight to get back to a place where I'd hit it. Like, that's my reaction to that is we got to do everything we can to get it back on track.

1:26:47So I'd say I'd hit it. But in this moment, no, there's no hitting anything. I think that's a very, very honest answer that's sort of reflective of the way a lot of us feel is that if we're going to be honest about the state of affairs with our country and it's again, there's so many things that happen in one day that like if I wanted to not go practice law and sit and read all this stuff, it would take hours to process and digest. But most people have to go to their day job, what they do every day, and focus on working, getting a paycheck, picking up your kids, doing the very basic things. My fear is that we don't have enough time in the day to process what's real and what's not real and that we're desensitizing people to where they just don't care.

1:27:33And there's nothing worse than apathy when people just don't care. That's when the wheels start to fall off. I will say this. 2028, Jennifer, Kyle, let's do it. OK, that's my. Oh, my God. I'm going to put you. I would knock on every door in America for you. I hope you know that. Right. I want you to be our president so bad. Thank you. Thank you. I told Josh, I would rather earn my money on my back than be a politician, because at least everybody would know exactly what I was, you know. But I appreciate that. I think that I'm best partnering and allying with this, all of these voices like yours and building a giant pro-democracy echo chamber because we're 10 years behind.

1:28:15And I think we're actually starting to get a lot of traction in building this new media. And I thank you so much. You know, I love you and Crystal so much. Listener, we went on a double date, the four of us. crystal ball kyle's um uh wife josh and i we went to the u.s open together and we had the best day right it was it was awesome and we're giant fans of you guys as well so keep up the awesome work tell your wife hi for us okay for me we'll do we'll do thanks for having me guys all right thanks kyle bye-bye kyle's cool i like him smart he's very smart smart smart he has a great uh YouTube channel.

1:28:54And what people like about Kyle is he just, he speaks very factually and to the point. And we just need more of that. And I love he and Crystal. He's very smart. All right, listener, we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday.

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