Bigots Gone Bananas

21 May 2026 · 54 min · 15 chapters

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In short

The hosts rant about “MAGA” culture-war fearmongering—especially anti-trans messaging in Republican gubernatorial ads (including an Oklahoma commercial featuring a man “castrating a banana”)—and argue it reflects fragile, hateful, anti-family politics. They also discuss how DEI and LGBTQ+ acceptance protect society, and connect these themes to broader anti-Black racism concerns. They briefly contrast this with personal relationship “pattern” healing (via Personal Development School) and share neighborhood frustrations about late-night toddler party trash.

Guests

No named guests appear. The episode features two recurring hosts: Jennifer (“Pumps”) and Angie (“hot stuff”).

Key claims

MAGA advances “idiots” (their “IAI” acronym), uses fear to drive turnout, and projects left-wing violence while ignoring right-wing harm. Trans people aren’t a threat; anti-trans ads are misleading. Conservatives’ religious “black-and-white” thinking and conditional love contribute to family breakups.

Notable examples

neighbor’s birthday party debris; Oklahoma anti-trans commercials; BBC-reported case of Lucy Harrison shot by her father after Trump argument; mention of Yale professor Robin Dembroff (non-binary) and her upbringing.

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Birthday Party Frustrations

1:41 to 3:54

Hosts discuss their grievances about noisy children's birthday parties.

“Okay, what I've had it with, and I know I'm going to get shit from you the minute I say this, but so I've had it with children's birthday parties that go into all of us.”

Ridiculous Birthday Trends

3:54 to 6:22

Exploration of over-the-top birthday party trends among parents.

“Last year I thought what, what are they?”

Critique of MAGA and DEI

6:22 to 14:03

Discussion on the fragility of MAGA supporters and the implications of DEI.

“So my nephew, Joey, and his wife, Madison, they just had a birthday party for my little baby nephew.”

Political Insanity Around Gender Issues

14:03 to 16:40

The discussion centers on the absurd political antics surrounding gender identity and the portrayal of LGBTQ+ issues in media.

“So they all out crazy each other and it's a race to the bottom.”

The Hypocrisy of Anti-Trans Sentiments

16:40 to 23:01

Exploration of the contradictions in anti-trans rhetoric and actual behavior of those who oppose LGBTQ+ rights.

“Back in our day, perhaps people would say if there was an effeminate boy, they'd say, well, boy, he sure is light in the loafers.”

Personal Stories of Gender Identity

23:01 to 25:58

A poignant narrative about a mother's struggle with her child's gender identity amidst societal pressures.

“they are over there watching trans porn on loop.”

The Importance of Diversity and Allyship

25:58 to 28:00

Discussion on the need for diversity and allyship in combating racism and supporting LGBTQ+ rights.

“And then because their imaginary friend is not doing personal favors for them, you have a gay child or a trans child or your child marries, you know, a black person or a brown person.”

The State of Racism in America

28:00 to 29:52

A discussion on the current state of racism, its escalation, and the role of allies.

“right now and every white listener of ours, you need to use your privilege to call out every racist motherfucker in this country.”

Audience Engagement and Reviews

32:20 to 34:18

Hosts read and discuss listener reviews that reflect their podcast's impact.

“Thankfully, I have Jen and Pomp's to keep me good and angry.”

Cultural Commentary on MAGA and Violence

34:18 to 39:53

Insightful commentary on the hypocrisy of MAGA culture regarding violence and intolerance.

“Yeah, especially because you know she lived in New York City if she was a Rockette, which I just want to say I love the Rockettes.”
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Tragic Case of Gun Violence

39:53 to 42:00

Discussion about a tragic incident involving gun violence linked to political beliefs.

“So this story happened a few months ago, and it just kind of dropped off on the news cycle.”

Tragic Family Violence and Political Divides

42:00 to 43:04

Exploring a tragic incident of gun violence linked to political fervor.

“500 milliliters of white wine earlier in the day.”

MAGA's Anti-Family Narrative

43:04 to 44:17

Discussion on how MAGA ideology fosters anti-family sentiments.

“No, so we were – she was just about to go to the airport.”

The Heartbreak of Family Estrangement

47:07 to 49:09

Examining the emotional toll of family divisions over politics.

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Conditional Love and Political Ideology

49:09 to 53:17

Discussing the effects of conditional love in political contexts.

“Well, and I think that the problem with all of this is, is there's so much subconscious messaging in all of this.”
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1:13Ready? One, two, three. What? Why are you laughing? The ready. Ready. So embarrassing. Ready. It's like a cheerleader. Okay, I have to do my part. Patriots, gay-triots, they-triots, black-triots, brown-triots. We love you. All of the triple-Trumpers, who actually still supports Trump, can do what, Pumps? Fuck off! Welcome to America's Top DEI Podcast. Pumps, what do you have it with? Okay, what I've had it with, and I know I'm going to get shit from you the minute I say this, but so I've had it with children's birthday parties that go into all of us. hours of the night and that trash blows all into my yard.

2:03And for two full days, I'm picking up all the shit, like the candy wrappers, the balloons that popped. I mean, I understand I gave a ridiculously embarrassing, like hang my head in shame birthday party, third birthday for Emily. It was during the day. I scooped up all the animal shit. We had a bouncy house, a bubble guy, like a balloon guy, not a bubble guy, a balloon guy and a bubble thing, which my dogs love the bubble thing. I'm not, I'm not against that. It went off. Whose birthday party are you talking about? I'm lost. In my neighbor's backyard. My neighbor's birthday. Okay. Listener, you have to understand sometimes pops goes into a story, assuming the listener knows 50%.

2:49So you're at home and you're behind neighbors with whom you share a fence. Correct. Are having a big child rager. Yes. Okay. And then you're getting, you're getting child debris for days. Okay. And it goes late into the night. Like the kid is maybe, I remember last year, I thought it was, I thought I heard him say it was her two-year-old birthday. So now we're at three and we're going till 11 or 12 a.m. I don't think that's for her. I think that's for them. And then I cannot tell you how much my dogs, how many Reese's pieces, those Brown cups that are left afterwards. They're all over my yard.

3:34I almost feel like trash, like blue over anyway. I just think it's rude as fact. I think if you have a child's birthday party, it needs to end at bedtime at the latest. ridiculous so i think that's terrible i've had it with that by proxy and you're telling me like their candy wrappers are in your yard yes they're candy wrappers did you go over there and talk to them about it no because my dogs aren't the greatest they're the neighbors dogs in the neighborhood so i'm not gonna you know and here's the deal they're perfect neighbors except for their child's birthday every year. And they raged until 11 midnight.

4:16Yes. I mean, it's crazy. Last year I thought what, what are they? Cause it's like loud music. Like we're, we are having a full-blown rage. You think they're tripping Molly or something? I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Dance music. Is it electronic? Little kids music during the day. Okay. And then it moves into more adult music, but like kids could dance to it, I guess. I didn't know the name of the songs, but they weren't like wet ass pussy or anything like that. It was kind of appropriate for kids. Yeah. Yeah. That would be something, wouldn't it, if they played wet ass pussy at the toddler party?

4:54What would they do if I got up on a ladder? What would they do if you got a bucket and a mop?

5:03Can you imagine if I just climbed up there? That could be great. Get a bucket and a mop. Uh-huh. Um, no, I, I've had it with that. I think that's ridiculous. I think that's obscene. I think it's disrespectful. Um, but here's the thing. Sometimes neighbors have parties. I think what irritates me the most about this is that the age of the toddler. So little for all of this adult stuff into the evening. Like I'm not going to throw stones if it's till, you know, like 10 AM to 2 PM And they can have the clowns and the bubble machine, the balloon maker, the bouncy house, all that. I'm fine with that.

5:44Where it gets me going is when we're still doing it late into the evening. I completely agree. I think those kids need to get to bed. I think it's reckless parenting. I think it's bad neighboring. I would be every bit as irritated as you, especially if the trash were getting into my dog's mouth. And then your dogs have a history of swallowing things they shouldn't swallow with multiple emergency vet visits, extractions, forced vomiting. I mean, it happens, it seems like monthly with you and one of your dogs. So I agree. I think that's insane. I think birthday, kid birthday parties are getting ridiculous.

6:22So my nephew, Joey, and his wife, Madison, they just had a birthday party for my little baby nephew. you. And she like, she had a step and repeat for like, you know, like for photographs and I couldn't help it. The greatest thing about Madison is she's real self-deprecating. So I text her and I go, birthday party pics look really over the top. She has, I couldn't help myself. I go a step and repeat for a two-year-old. Seriously. She goes, Oh yeah. Wait till I send you the pics of the personalized juice boxes. It was so over the top and she, and she'll sit there and own it. She'll say it's ridiculous.

6:59It's a complete waste of money. I wouldn't have it any other way. It was all the birthday party was done for the gram and she will sit and own it. She will say it absolutely was done to make, you know, appealing Instagram photos. And I appreciate that. It's the people that thirst trap that deny thirst trapping that irritate me. Oh, my, my two-year-old was dying for a step and repeat. My two-year-old was dying for that. It's like bullshit. Yeah. No, Madison's the coolest. She's owned shit. No, she just owned it. And I was able to go in and she was like, Oh, couldn't love it enough. Wish I would have done more.

7:35All right. So, okay. Let me tell you, I've been thinking a lot about how triggered and fragile MAGA people are regarding DEI. You know, it's their big thing. Like we're against woke, we're anti-woke, we're anti-DEI. And so really what DEI is, diversity, equity, inclusion, it's about making sure people that are diverse have an equal shot at jobs that white people normally get. Well, I have a new acronym that I would like to introduce to the class, and it's IAI, Idiot Advancement Initiative. because every time I see a person on the television or on my phone that is an idiot, they work for Donald Trump and they have been advanced to this job over qualified, really qualified people because of their idiocy.

8:39And so I think we progressives need to say, We oppose IAI, the idiot advancement initiatives put forth by the Trump regime, because I have never seen a larger collection of idiots on display. It is unbelievable. It's breathtaking, actually. When you see J.D. Vance, Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, Kristi Noem, who's still the president of the shield of vaginas or something that he's given her some job for. right? The shield of balloon titties. Big titty Brian. It just goes on and on and on. And it's, they really have a policy of advancing idiots, but I blame 77 million Americans for voting for the biggest idiot of all time.

9:32And then the buyer's remorse that they're all acting like they have right now. It's just more than I can take. Here's the thing on the buyer's remorse. And I, you know me, I'm thinking they have learned their lesson when elections roll around. Please tell me you're not thinking that. No, no, no, no. That's where I want to move. And then you say they would vote for Trump again. We've seen it with Megyn Kelly. She will go on and on about the missteps, how horrible the ball has been fumbled. And then she says, well, it's better than the left. And I would still vote for him. So here's the thing. As much as I would like to say that, you have put me in a position where you put someone in my life, a picture of them to my face and say, would this person quadruple down despite everything they're saying?

10:27And in my heart, I'm like, yeah. So I don't have a lot of faith. My biggest hope for this group of people that now have buyer's remorse is they just don't vote because I just don't trust them to not go in and make the same mistakes. So here's the thing. You bring up a good point. Here's the thing that Trump did is he got a lot of voter enthusiasm for the idiot advancement initiative. And so a lot of people came out that had never voted before or were not super voters that maybe voted randomly. And he really drove up Republican turnout numbers. And I do think, you know, this guy, I mean, I'm no physician, but it doesn't look very good.

11:13Right. You know, they remember they're like, Joe Biden's going to croak any second. And this is like, to me, worse. And I don't think Joe Biden looked lively young. It wasn't a good look. Like two years in, I was like, is he going to run again? Well, what, we're like 16, 17 months into Trump. And I'm like, are we still going to let him do this shit? Like he just sleeps on national television all the time or lies or talks about shit that nobody knows what the hell he's talking about. So I do think that the voter turnout will not be as good. But the Republicans have a really good way of scaring.

11:50I think in general, Republicans and MAGA men and women are very fear motivated. And these people get scared very easily. They get triggered very easily, like gay people trigger them. Chance people trigger them. People speaking Spanish trigger them. Women trigger them. Black singers trigger them. And so they get very motivated by fear to go out to vote against these very scary things, like black person singing. but I don't know that Vance or Mark little Marco or if he ends up running like some family member of his Domer Domer the sons I don't think people are going to just go kill themselves to go vote for them okay so I'll tell you uh watching basketball games I have to watch commercials I'm forced to I have no choice and Oklahoma as everyone is how it is running for all kinds of offices, governor, the whole nine.

12:53You would not believe these commercials. I mean, you would, honest to God, you would think that if you open up your door, you are going to get run over by trans people, that there is going to be a march of 70 million trans people all lined up to go play sport machetes with machetes I mean it's just I every time I watch them I just think who in the fuck is stupid enough to believe any of this and I have one guy he is promising if he becomes governor he's going to make a Trump institute for science like that but it's like the Trump Institute and it's like science or weather. And I'm just like, are you kidding me?

13:51That's what we're doing. Like there's this one guy, this one guy that's running for governor. And here's the problem. What happens in places like Oklahoma, because the Republican primary picks whoever's going to be the governor. So they all out crazy each other and it's a race to the bottom. So there's this one guy and his name is, uh, let me see it here. McCall. And he basically castrates a banana on a television commercial. He said, let me be perfectly clear. Cutting this banana, and then he does a dramatic chop, does not make it an orange. What that means, I don't know. And then he says, I have a simple message for any lunatic pushing sex change for kids.

14:37And then he does another chop and he says, you first. And here's the thing. nobody is pushing sex change for kids period end of story kids are not getting in litter boxes at school squatting down on all fours getting butt naked and scratching the litter and then taking a dump and then covering said dump with their hands like their cats it doesn't fucking happen and if you have believed that and somebody has looked you and said well i knew my cousin's friend over at such and such high school said she saw the litter box. You're a fucking dipshit. Everybody has these phones in their hands at all time.

15:17And here's all I have to say about how fragile MAGA people are. Like, have you ever been around a trans person? Have you ever interacted with a trans person? Like, is this such a threat to your gender, your religion, your family unit, that it's so fragilely constructed that a trans person will completely dismantle your entire life identity and faith and family and freedom and all that shit. Like literally it's such an indictment on these gubernatorial candidates running in Oklahoma about what pussies they are. That your entire political identity, family identity, religious identity can completely get dismantled because of a trans person?

16:06Like seriously, it's such an indictment on how weak minded these people are. Absolutely. And here's the thing. I would bet you 95 % of the voters in rural Oklahoma have never even been within a hundred mile radius of a trans person. But I do want to say this. I do think probably maybe they kind of have. And this is what I want our listener to remember. When you're in school and you're little, the phrase tomboy, a girl that is kind of boyish, that's very common before all of this culture war about trans people. Back in our day, perhaps people would say if there was an effeminate boy, they'd say, well, boy, he sure is light in the loafers.

17:00So this kind of gender fluidity has always existed. And nobody has freaked out about it until recently. Now, obviously, you know, these things have resulted in bullying and whatnot. But we've all kind of been around our whole lives, people that don't fit into these binary boxes. that as a society, we have made up that boys all have to be this way and girls all have to be this way. There is definitely, you can all think back on it, and I'll just tell you this much, anybody who's been to rural Oklahoma or any rural part, there's a real fine line between a cowgirl and a lesbian. You go to some boot scootin' bar and you see one of these cowboys that's about this big and has on the tight wranglers and the big belt with the big buckle and the start shirt twirling around on that dance floor, it's giving queen.

17:57So I'm just saying we have all seen this sort of gender fluidity in all of the places imaginable. And it's awesome. It's great. And And the fact of the matter is trans people are born in rural communities at the same percentage that they're born in big cities. I recently had on the podcast a Yale professor, Robin Dimbroff, and they are a non-binary person, born pumps in a very Christian family, homeschooled, went to Bible school. So by MAGIS guidance, in order to avoid woke and transgender, you have to raise your children in a Republican Christian environment. Professor Robin Dimbroff was raised in said environment.

18:54And they were outed after the Bible study stint, then began deconstructing, and now is one of these radical professors at Yale. Wink, wink, I say that. But by MAGA's logic, Robin should be a good Christian person that would never, you know, be non-binary or trans or gay or any of these things. But that's the thing about the LGBTQ+. The majority of the LGBTQ plus people that I know in Oklahoma had conservative Christian parents. Right. They do conservatives give birth to trans people, to gay people, because nobody fucking picks it. So then you have a choice like this asshole. What was his name?

19:44McCall. You can either be a dick about it and bully kids via your gubernatorial campaign, or you can say, you know what? Maybe these people are a little different than what we expect them to be. But as a person of power, I'm not going to stand on TV like a nut castrating bananas to try to scare the rubes. You know, it's just, it's fucking psychotic. But they're so ignorant. They're so, I mean, like, I can't even tell you all the trans commercials that are going on in the state of Oklahoma. And how sad is that? It's so sad. It's so, it makes me so mad. So mad. And I'll tell you what else. And I'm like, I've looked at all the polls.

20:27I see all the poll numbers. I see Trump's policies, his approval rating, these fuckers are trying to out support Trump. Like, well, this candidate didn't support Trump's this, but I did. And I'm just like, obviously, sadly, because my first thought was obviously that, you know, their campaign managers aren't cut up or caught up on the polling and the approval rating. And then I thought, it doesn't fucking matter. Well, that's what's so sad about states like Oklahoma, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama. In my experience, your experience is in Oklahoma. You look no further than if you're mad at the way the government is run.

21:08It is a Republican problem. The attorney general, the Supreme Court, the governor, both houses in the state legislature, all Republican super majorities. You hate education, Republicans. You hate the law and order. It's all Republicans. every bit. And as Governor Stitt, as I like to call Governor Limp Dick, as he goes on, he dedicated every square inch of that state to Jesus Christ at the very beginning of his second term. And still high crime, high teen pregnancies, 50th in education. I don't know if that's an indictment on dedicating things to Jesus, an indictment on prayer, an indictment on, what do I call it?

21:56The idiot advancement initiative. They keep advancing these idiots to do idiotic things that just dismantle. And I just, I'm at a loss for Oklahoma and people will say, well, you should have stayed there and fought for it. And I'm like, I fought for progressive politics in Oklahoma from the age 18 until 51. I hosted more political parties that anybody I know. I had everybody's fucking yard sign in my yard. And I finally came to the conclusion, this is what the people of Oklahoma want. And it's not that they win like by a little bit. It is double digit, ruby red, hellfire damnation, idiot advancement initiatives.

22:44And these people want to talk about trans people because they are fucking obsessed. with gay shit and trans shit. And how do I know this? Because I found a little study pumps, you know, where the number one place where all trans porn is consumed, Lawton, Oklahoma, they are over there watching trans porn on loop. And I don't give a shit if they do or don't. I just find it fascinating that these people are consuming these anti-trans commercials, trying to decide who is the most anti-trans dipshit that we can advance in government to dismantle more of what it's supposed to do. And then the minute they finish watching that commercial, it's whack city on trans porn.

23:28And that's my thing, which I don't care if you want to whack off to trans porn, do your thing. It's a free country. But it's just the breathtaking hypocrisy. And I just had to come back. And I hold, I'm going to tell you, I hold a lot of the churches in Oklahoma accountable for all of this because so many people are major church attenders and these pastors are just total pieces of shit that perpetuate hating on people. No, I completely agree. I would, I would link it in a large majority because you are, you hear it in your home and then you hear it from church and then you hear it from the pastor and it just, you think it's normal.

24:07Like, well, you, of course you vote Republican. That's what you do. That's what your parents do. That's what your pastor does. That's what your, you know, your school teacher does. So of course you do. Perhaps I remember I watched this like 60 minutes or vice. I can't remember which it was. It was probably about 15, 20 years ago before, but probably 10 to 15 years ago before this was such a, um, uh, culture war issue before it was really, really exploited. And it was a woman in Alabama and she was conservative Christian lady, kind of like, you know, exactly the way you grew up. She prayed. She did everything that she was supposed to do.

24:44She had this little boy. She lived in rural Alabama. She had this little boy, and this little boy kept telling her, age two, three, I'm a girl. I want to play with this doll. I want to play. It was the only child she had. And this boy wanted to wear dresses and do all of these things. So she, you know, they prayed. She spanked him. She put in timeout. She did all of these things, you know, pastors over. And then finally, she got out of the church therapy and was able to go to an actual therapist. And that therapist told her, like, your child is trans. Like, your child is telling us who it is. Church cut her off.

25:22Her family cut her off. But she said, you know, this is so painful for me because my whole identity was a Republican Christian woman. But I'm worried that my child will kill themselves. Absolutely. And I have to be a mother first. And so she agreed to do this interview. And it was just so, goes to my larger point that these conservatives that are hating on all this, that think their lives, if all you have to do is pray and, you know, God, the evangelical God plays favorites, you know, and does personal favors. And so these people are so narcissistic. And then because their imaginary friend is not doing personal favors for them, you have a gay child or a trans child or your child marries, you know, a black person or a brown person.

26:11And it's this diversity that protects us. It's this acceptance that protects us. Because whenever you have a homogenized group together, it just, they cook up a lot of bad ideas. A bunch of white people, that's why I don't like the suburbs very much. A bunch of white people out in the suburbs at HOA, they're just cooking up bad ideas. It's not good. Diversity is a protector. It protects us. It keeps our minds open. It keeps us cooperating, which cooperation we know is an evolutionary trait that helps with longevity. And so I just want all of our trans listeners, non-binary listeners, and Professor Robin Dembroff, and if you didn't watch that episode.

26:59It was, I believe Sundays. It was just very, very excellent. They are an excellent speaker. Oh, pumps. They spoke about psychological captivity and it made me think of you. Okay. So that when you're, um, when you're raised with this black and white religion, you're, it's like psychological captivity that you're kept in, that they're holding you captive psychologically. I have their book. They brought like three or four copies, I'll mail you one pumps. Okay. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I think you'll really, really enjoy it. But anyway, that's a long intro. Welcome to I've had it. I am a, uh, white woman named Jennifer and I support LGBTQ plus all the letters, all the fucking letters.

27:46I don't care how long the fucking acronyms get. You will see no pearl clutching for me only support. and I am very worried about the rise in anti-black racism in this country. It is at a boiling point right now and every white listener of ours, you need to use your privilege to call out every racist motherfucker in this country. If you see a racist watching basketball, call him out. If you see them eating in a Mexican restaurant, call him out because the racism is out of control in this country right now. And these people must have white allies that fight for the diversity that makes all of our lives better and protects us.

28:27No, I completely agree. And it's the boiling point. What's your name? Oh, my name is Angie. Or you can call me hot stuff. I like that. That's why you're America's top podcaster. But you were just saying the boiling point, Go back to that. I feel like the boiling point, like probably I would say, you know, several years ago, probably during Obama. So that, you know, you can mark it around there. I was like, you know, we're we're moving forward with, you know, gay marriage. Racism is down now. I feel like it is even worse than I grew up. and I don't up in it and around it like everywhere. And now I feel like it's more talk.

29:22It's just more toxic and worse. I don't know if it is, but that's just how I feel about it. It was bad. I mean, it was really bad, but now it just seems like everybody in positions of power and authority, they're just fucking saying it. We don't want you to fucking vote, sit in the back of the bus. I We have gone so far backwards. It's just, it really is mind blowing in one lifetime. How far we've gone back. All right. When Angie and I started this podcast, I'm just going to be honest with you. We're pretty much incompetent. We had no idea what we were doing and we had to set up like social media.

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33:43Thankfully, I have Jen and Pomp's to keep me good and angry. After listening to an episode, I feel ready to use my high-kicking skills to silence those deplorables. Thanks for helping me feel less lonely out here in the prairie. Oh, man, I feel for you. I love that review. It's so difficult. It's so difficult. It's always been so difficult for me to live around racist and hypocrites. It physically takes a toll on you. It physically really is difficult for me to do it. So I have a lot of empathy for her. Yeah, especially because you know she lived in New York City if she was a Rockette, which I just want to say I love the Rockettes.

34:24I am just always spellbound every time there's a special. I have never seen the Rockettes in person, but I watch all the YouTube videos and all that. It's pretty amazing to me. How's your high kick? That's what I was about to ask. Well, since you asked back in the day, I was a hyper extended high tech all the way back, like past my ear. Yeah. Back in the day. Now, now you think you are in traction if I did it. Could you, can you do the splits? Fuck no, I can't do the splits. Could you do the splits back then? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't do like the split drop, like drop, like a Dallas cowboy split drop, but I could get into the splits, but my flexibility is just gone to shit.

35:13That's why I like this yoga class. Cause my teacher's mean, she's the first yoga teacher I've ever had. We never hear about the earth. We never hear about energy, you know, all that shit. I'll be trying to do something. She's like, well, you need to spread your leg out further. And I'm like, well, I can't, it's too tight. We'll stretch it out. I mean, she'll come over there and pull the shit out of it. So I appreciate that. So I'm anxious to get more flexible because it's bad. Okay. The last review, five stars. I've got a six pack from laughing and Queen Z writes, if you're struggling with an episode of depression, that's darn near three years running stress to no end because honestly, who isn't right now and hating this timeline and all the fools running the clown show.

35:54This podcast is absolutely for you. A word of advice though, If you've grown babies in your body or otherwise have an iffy pelvic floor, do not listen to this. If you have to pee, use the bathroom first. You'll thank me later. Full disclosure. I almost peed myself several times yesterday listening to this gem of a pod. That's so nice. Considering I just peed in my pants just like two weeks ago at this podcast with Jennifer being Erica Kirk. I had three people come up to me at the gym and were like, I had no idea why Jennifer as Erica Kirk popped up on my timeline, but I've never laughed so hard in my life.

36:35Like I, this one lady was like, I had tears in my eyes so much that I was worried I was going to have a wreck because I was driving and it just popped up on my feed at a stoplight. And I was looking at it. Then I kept listening to it over and over. She's like, I couldn't quit laughing. that eric kirk shit is wild it's just it's crazy to me that she keeps putting herself in front of the camera saying and doing crazy shit and then she's a victim and it's on a loop it's like yeah bitch go home sit down shut the fuck up get a therapist and grieve this ain't it funerals with firecrackers, making out with J.D.

37:16Vance on stage, doing a video in a sniper outfit is not going to work well for you. I think Turning Point is cooked. I do too. I think it is. I think the goose is cooked on that. MAGA has been lying about their youth support and the polling the last year has really ferreted that out. 18 % of the youth identify as Republican and the numbers of Christianity, MAGA's always lied about, are still eroding with the youth. And this mega church culture with the pyrotechnics and the girls all hookered up like Erica Kirk, you know, with those long, you know, like the long nails and the long eyelashes and whatever.

38:03I mean, if listener, if you do that, good for you. Swing for the fences, just as long as you're not like, okay, do you remember? I can't even believe I'm bringing this. Do you remember like right after he died, she videoed herself crying over the coffin? Yeah. That pops in my head all the time. I think about that all the fucking time too, because why would you film it and post it? That's the thing. Here's the thing. And I know I say this about MAGA people, and I know you respond the same way all the time, but I always am fascinated with the person taking the video that doesn't say, this should be for you.

38:40This shouldn't be for anyone else. You don't need to go out and act like such a nut. Like there's, it's like all of these circles, like nobody pulls anybody back and says, that's not a good idea. I mean, in our friendship, how many times, I don't think I can count high enough of all the times. I mean, you've gone along with it some, but that I am just crazier than a shithouse rat. And I'm like, this is what I'm going to do. This is the best idea. and you're like, that's fucking crazy. Let's put a pause on it. You know what I mean? But like, there's nobody in any of these MACA circles that ever says - Because they're all fucking crazy.

39:19They're all fucking crazy. Because here's the thing, Angie, here's the thing. They don't tell each other the real age of the earth. So you can start there. It's all, everybody believes the earth is five to 6 ,000 years old and that heaven and earth was made in one day. And nobody says, you know what? There's a pretty big history of science here that kind of refutes a lot of this shit. So when you start at that, that it's just magical thinking layered on top of magical thinking, then you just got to go all fucking in on the crazy. Why not? Just fucking let your crazy flag fly. Well, I do. I sure do.

40:00I have some news. So this story happened a few months ago, and it just kind of dropped off on the news cycle. So while the gubernatorial races and a lot of the primaries, Republican primaries around the country right now are a race to the bottom, castrating bananas, out, you know, out, out hating trans people. And we all know what they're doing at night. Right. So this MAGA violence and intolerance that they are trying to project on the left, the left is so violent. The left is intolerant. The left is Antifa. It's like, I am anti-fascist. Thank you. We really, it's projection on their part because it has always been the right.

40:50I mean, we're from Oklahoma City. We're Oklahoma City residents. Timothy McVeigh was a right wing terrorist that partied and interacted in right wing circles. And we've never really made the Confederacy, these right wing terror groups, really punish them and said, we will not tolerate this. We always capitulate to right wing framing and it's bullshit. Is there violence on the left? Of course. But it's not even comparable to the violence on the right. so some of you may remember this story this is lucy harrison a 23 year old british woman who was shot and killed by her father after they argued about trump in january shortly before his inauguration so basically this dad and daughter get in a huge fight angie about trump and she says how would you feel if i was one of those girls that was sexually abused this is per a bbc article.

41:53And he says, well, I have two other daughters, so I wouldn't be upset that much. And the father allegedly was an alcoholic who admitted to police that he had relapsed and drank 500 milliliters of white wine earlier in the day. And then he gets in this fight and he shoots his daughter and kills her. Kills his fucking daughter over Donald Trump. Can you imagine if a liberal shot their child over a fight about Barack Obama. And this just gets sent through the news cycle. And we all feel bad for these people because we see, God, this is a cult. This is horrible gun violence. We see all of the things.

42:36Meanwhile, Stephen Miller trots out all the time that the left is so violent and all of these lies. Stephen Miller is a pathological liar married to a complete fucking psycho who likes to take pictures of her baby bump, Katie Miller, and post them in a very weird fashion online. I'll get to all of that in another episode in another day because it's really disturbing stuff. But here's a video of the police body cam footage. Play this. Can you explain? Hello. No. No, so we were – she was just about to go to the airport. Who is she? That's our daughter. My daughter. It's my daughter. Okay, okay. And we were getting ready to see the airport, and we were talking about guns.

43:18And she said, you've got a gun. I said, yes. I got it out, and it just went off as she stood there. Like, as I pulled it out, it went off. Okay. It must have been, obviously. Did you put the gun? Jen, I have one more thing I want to pop up that stood out to me. Okay. This is from the BBC article. It says, Harrison said he had bought the gun a couple years before because he wanted a sense of security for his family, which is what every MAGA gun owner Christian says. I'm going to protect my family. And he killed his daughter. This just makes me so sad. And you notice this has just been filtered through the news cycle and never to be heard from again.

44:00Not only does MAGA not address this as a gun problem issue, but again, this goes back to my premise, Pumps, that I say all the time. MAGA is an anti-family death cult. Every single story. This is a very anti-family story. Intolerance. When you don't have diversity in your life, you don't have diversity of thought. You're not as a means of survival because of evolution, we learn to cooperate. When you're around diverse people, you have to cooperate. So this is, again, I guarantee you that fucking happened in the suburbs. I guarantee it did. Kylie, would you please look into that? You get this concentration of people with no diversity of thought.

44:43And here's this girl trying to be a critical thinker. Obviously, she's a young woman, any young woman. And I can't speak to all of these women that suffer from all of this Stockholm syndrome, internalized misogyny. But Trump is objectively very offensive, unless you're emotionally fucked up. and sadly tens of millions of american women are emotionally fucked up it happened in prosper texas which is a very affluent kind of my parents used to live in prosper really yeah no it it's a very affluent yeah and it's it is why it's it's suburb it is oh yes Listener, owning a home, actually owning your own home is amazing.

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48:00And they still vote for Trump. And that has hurt them so deeply. They don't speak with that parent anymore. And then it escalates all the way up to we're going to shoot them. I mean, it's story after story after story after story. And it's just, you get so wrapped up in your head that I have to protect this at all costs. I have to defend it. I'm going to do whatever I can. For this fucker to say, well, if one of my other, you know, I have one kid that's molested, the other two aren't. I mean, this guy's fucked up from jump. But it's just there is a if you go across a continuum, shooting your child because they disagree with you about Trump is on one extreme.

48:45But there are also when you will not see your parents because they vote against you, you're entitled to that. You you have every right to be heard about that. It's truly heartbreaking how many families have broken up because the parents can't stand for their children. They pick some dipshit over their children. And so it just makes me really sad. I mean, and my mom and I, we don't talk on a deep level, but the only like knock down, drag out fights we've had have been over the politics of this man. And it's just it's such a cancer. Well, and I think that the problem with all of this is, is there's so much subconscious messaging in all of this.

49:33And the fear, probably a reason why you don't tiptoe too deep into conversations with your mother, is because you know if she can dehumanize and hate black people. She outwardly opposes interracial marriage. She outwardly doesn't care for anybody who doesn't think the exact same way she does and faces any sort of diversity of thought with utter judgment, cruelty, hellfire, damnation. Subconsciously as a child, you would have to think, well, she can do that to somebody else. She could do that to me. And so it's too painful to proceed for, I mean, I think if your parent is capable of such conditional love for, for mankind, like your mother only conditionally loves people, not unconditionally.

50:25Um, then you know, that brokenness is in them. And then that brokenness can come for you. Fortunately for you, you're a white heterosexual woman, but had you married a black man, been a lesbian. It would have been, you know, a long tumultuous road because your mother is programmed like so many Americans to think in a very black and white worldview and not in an inclusive, unconditional type of way, but they lead with hate. It leads with judgment. and proud to be a black and white thinker. Proud of that. I mean, if I said, you only see the world in black and white, if I said that to her, she'd be like, you're, you're damn right.

51:22She's goddamn right. I do compliment. I mean, she would be like, you're absolutely right. So it's too painful. I mean, I think it's probably too painful to go forward. It's too painful because if she opens that subject, she knows at this point in my life, I will tell her and she does not want to hear that it's easier to be news for other sports that's what I think on her end well also I think you're probably in her mind like what I'm so proud of you for she's you're like the biggest failure for I'm so proud that you came from being like this Christian flirted with racism, homophobia, to like growth and evolution and acceptance.

52:08And that's like, oh my God, that's incredible. So the thing that I'm like, so proud of you for your mother's like, that's like the biggest failure imaginable that you would be an ally. She can't look for failure in the faith. But you know, here's the thing. I was thinking the other day, if one of my kids like got a job in the Trump administration, let's say went off and became like a, I don't know, a lackey at the White House and they just loved Trump. I mean, that, I don't, it would be so hard for me. That would be the failure that I would feel the heartbreak that they were doing that. But it would be, I would be so devastated.

52:52Now you know how your mother feels. That's what I'm saying. I look at her and I think, I kind of feel sorry for her because she thinks I'm the Antichrist in every way. Yeah. Now, I would feel like an abject failure. If one of my sons went to work for a misogynist administration like that, because I've raised them explicitly differently, purposefully differently. and identified what misogyny is, identified what platforms. And really, really, as a family, we try to always understand and grow and evolve regarding anti-Black racism and being really good allies. These are conversations we have all the time as a family that Josh is so good about these things.

53:41And I would just feel like I really failed. I would feel like I raised a sociopath. I really would. Yeah. All right. That was uplifting. Yeah. We are just full of fun. No wonder these people pee their pants. We are just so uplifting and funny. All right. Listen, I have a book that is coming out in October. It is called Not Today Fascist, The Lies That Got Us Here and the Truth That Will Reunite Us. And I have a secret. Every time it says the truth that will reunite us. In my mind, I want to say the truth that will set us free. And I've done it multiple times. And the people with the publishing company are like, no, you named it the truth that will reunite us.

54:22But I always want to say the truth that will set us free. But please, it's down in the link, but it really helps to pre-order. It helps to support our channel. Make sure you're subscribed here. We also have the political podcast. This is, believe it or not, this I think is pop culture politics, what we talked about today. This is not policy politics. Yeah, pop culture. I like it because I don't really know anything about pop culture other than this area. But you can go follow us on iHip News as well and we will be back later. We have podcasts that drop all the time. Just find us somewhere. We're never too far.

54:58When you said I've got a secret about your book, I leaned in like you were telling me a secret. All right, bye pups.

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