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25:47Well, you know, that's that was a real aha moment for us because it's such an easy layup right now to take down MAGA to say MAGA isn't America first. They are clearly Israel first. Moses Mike Johnson packed up his toys because he didn't want his base to find out that Trump is in the middle of a pedophile ring. And he went immediately to his home district of Israel. They are Israel first. And so I was waiting for the Democrats to say this and they can't say it because they're beholden to the same people that Moses Mike Johnson is. So when the only bipartisanship that you see in Congress right now is support for killing marginalized Palestinians and starving them out, that's a huge problem for the Democratic Party.

26:39And I mean, here's the thing. And the Democrats are being really stupid about this. I played a clip yesterday, Hassan, of Marjorie Taylor Greene bashing Israel and talking about an economic populist message like Americans are sick of funding wars. They're sick of not having health care. And I just said, you know, she's a nut. She's clearly anti-Semitic, all this stuff. But I said, when you consume news, you're a middle information viewer and you just see those clip. The Democrats are leaving us vulnerable to more fascism, to more conservatism, to more Christian nationalism by not taking the lead on this.

27:15And it enrages me. Yeah. Marjorie Taylor Greene should not be the leading voice on this. She should not be outflanking any Democrat on this issue whatsoever. The Democrats are leaving a massive, they're leaving this space and discourse completely void. And it's allowed Republicans to basically capture this issue because they recognize, at least some of these Republicans recognize, that this is a way to communicate earnesty. Because it's a 92 to 8 % issue at this point in the Democratic Party's base of support. The majority of Republicans don't even support Israel as they once did. you got basically just a base of evangelical christians uh who are evangelical zionists who are some of the most rabid supporters of uh israel american jews don't even fuck with israel like that anymore and you know the democrats are still seemingly uh leaving this this conversation out there uh for for the likes of marjorie taylor green to take advantage of to make themselves seem like they're earnest and not grifters it totally and she is she's a total grifter but you You know, we've been keeping an eye on her and she has been hanging out with Steve Bannon a lot.

28:27And they're nuts. But Steve Bannon has good political instincts and he always returns to an economic populist message. Now, does he want to deliver that populism once he gets power? Fuck no. Absolutely not. But he knows that he can use it to lure them in. And Marjorie Taylor Greene, she's figured out how to game the stock system. You know, she's made her money. And I think she is starting to realize that Trump's 95. He's got cankles, you know, clearly has dementia. She's starting to see beyond Trumpism. And she is evolving in a Darwinian style to say, how am I going to survive after this cult?

29:09And once the damage and the debris field of all of this shit that he's done, there is going to be a rise of economic populism and the democrats are leaving us so fucking vulnerable no absolutely um they are i think the real scary person in this uh league of villains is tucker carlson really i am i'm truly terrified of that guy and the reason why i say this is because he was early he was an early adopter of the uh fake populist messaging um when he was on fox news. He was one of the only guys in mainstream news that was actively talking about like workers rights and, and how important it is that like the right wing actually care about American labor.

29:54Right. And Donald Trump in many ways actually adopted that framing when he was talking about why he was going to do a tariffs when he was going to do this tariff strategy, when he was like, oh, we got to revitalize American manufacturing these kinds of like anti-NAFTA positioning this, All of this is actually trade protectionism. It's technically supposed to be like a left-wing economic message. Now, of course, the way that Trump has implemented it is ridiculous and has been disastrous. But I think a lot of that actually stems from not only Steve Bannon, like you correctly identified, but also even someone like Tucker Carlson.

30:29And I truly am worried about what kind of damage he would do if he was actually in charge, if he actually ran for president. Well, because they also have the support of what you call them Christian Zionists. I call them rapture preppers because I live in the Bible Belt. And these people are genuinely prepping for the rapture. And this percentage of the population are what leave us most vulnerable. These religious rapture preppers, this is the way Putin entered is through the prayer breakfast. This is the way everybody gets radicalized to Trumpism. This part of the electorate is the worst part of America.

31:16I think you may remember during this last election, a guy in France that worked in the French government as a politician said, we have to have more independence than waiting every four years to find out how the voters of Wisconsin vote. because other countries are recognizing that we have a dipshit problem in America with part of the electorate. And the thing that pisses me off, Hassan, about the Democrats is there's still this like this that they want to lure some of them their way. Instead of just saying, look, we need to get new voters. Those people are always going to vote right. But there's still this kind of like you probably saw when I got into it with Rahm Emanuel.

31:56I got in a fight with him and he was trying to bend, like say, hey, I don't like trans people either. And I'm like, that's not the way. Randy Brashear proved that we don't have to throw any group under the bus. He got elected in Bible thumping Kentucky, like Mitch McConnell land. And so I don't know why the base beyond the Israel thing, I don't know why they want to, if it's just still upholding patriarchal structures or protecting capitalism. But at this stage, I'm so mad as a Democrat. And listen, I was in the tank. I was Hillary. I didn't vote for Bernie. My kid, my oldest son, Brow, beat me for that, called me a conservative.

32:36And I was that Democrat. OK, I was that Democrat. And people use the word radicalized. And I don't think that's the right language to what happened to me and what's happening to a lot of white women that look like me. I would say it's being deprogrammed. And this is what pissed me off. The Democrats won. Joe Biden won. And we all saw what happened on January 6th. And that motherfucker got elected again. They should have charged him. He should be in prison. And I just saw the breathtaking pussy at the core of that party that y 'all are playing two different games here. And that's what pissed me off about the Democrats.

33:17And I still see that going on right now with the Democratic party. They're not standing up to him. Like, it's like, come on. Yeah, no, that's, um, you, you have to, at some points punish a child that's misbehaving. Otherwise they're never going to learn the right lesson. They're never going to grow up to be a healthy adult. Uh, the democratic party on the other hand is so cowardly, so feckless that, uh, they are, uh, utterly devoid of any sort of counter messaging campaign. Uh, they're, they're just incapable of, of, uh, combating anything that the Trump administration is doing. I have begged consistently Democrat party consultants, the pod johns, when I go on their podcast to be like, the Democrats should behave more like Donald Trump, but with good policy rather than the evil policies that are damaging to the working class that the Republicans present damaging to marginalized groups that the Republicans present, like, you know, taking away women's bodily autonomy, fantasizing about potentially taking away a gay marriage, things of that nature.

34:13The Democrats should do Trump style politics, but with good policy instead. Oh, we're doing student loan debt relief. What are you going to do about it? Sorry, everyone is actually going to enjoy that. Republicans are going to enjoy that. We're going to do paid family leave, right? Whether you like it or not, we're going to do health care, whether you like it or not. Sorry, sucks to suck. Oh, you hate free health care? Well, you're going to get it regardless. I think that's how they should legislate in a bold way and also punish people both within their ranks that step out of line for corporate interests.

34:45And I'm talking about, of course, Kyrsten Sinema and the Joe Manchins of the world who are playing the role of a villain, a revolving, rotating villain within the structure of the Democratic Party. Whip those votes. Why am I talking about all this? Well, the reason why I'm talking about it is because before I actually met Democrats, before I actually went to the DNC, for example, before I met the consultant class, I always used to think that these guys are just like cynical, amoral monsters who are cold and calculating. They are just simply, you know, actively behaving as the controlled opposition party that they're, they, they know that they have a role to play here in the grand scheme, but American politics is a duopoly, but it's actually uniparty when it comes to a lot of stuff like Israel and foreign policy and even tax cuts and deregulations.

35:32And their role is to broadly just stand aside and allow the Republicans to dominate and shift the Overton window further and further to the right and and i thought they were doing that on purpose and then i met a couple democrats and then i started meeting their consultants and i realized oh my god it's not even that they're just stupid like they literally are so stupid that they genuinely think like when they say oh we got to go along and and and do a song and dance with liz cheney there are some dumb fucks in there who unironically thought that this was a banger like they literally what they were communicating to the tv channels about how like we have to hug and kiss liz cheney uh because we have to like uh bring over this mythical moderate republican voter when have you met a republican lately like 90 of the things that they are uh you know 90 of their grievances are just made up they're hallucinating you know i mean they're living in an alternative playing field like you're not winning those guys over they think you're like a pedophilic vampire you know what i mean they don't they don't think like they're not like oh oh, wow, reasonable foreign policy.

36:38That's why I'm voting for Donald Trump. No, they literally have hallucinated an alternative reality. So they didn't win any of those voters. But the intention behind those actions are, I guess, genuine. Genuinely stupid, but genuine nonetheless. So I guess there is some hope there. I do think when you think about the way the base moved the Republican Party so far to the right. We have to be that bold and move the politicians that we have right now that far to the left. And none of them are perfect. Like Gavin Newsom and the, what's his name, Charlie Kirk interview. I mean, double thumbs down, annoying as fuck.

37:23But what he's doing right now, the Cap Lock tweet and like acting like, you know, sending that out, those unhinged tweets, kind of like Trump did and threatening to gerrymander. We have the leaders that we have right now. I mean, here's the thing, Hassan, between you and me, I think, you know, most people would probably rather earn their money on their back than being an elected politician. So these are the guys that we have right now. So I think our best plan, we have to beat up on them, but we also, when they're showing good fight, we have to support them and also continue to move them to the left because the people that live in these all MAGA super majority states, the damage is already happening and has been happening and so um i you know i i share all of your disenchantment but i think we need to as a base keep pushing them the ones that we have now the ones that won't push primarium but the ones that we have i think they can evolve because look how quickly the whole republican party changed i mean these guys used to just i mean they i mean not that long ago in my lifetime they told nixon to resign that they wouldn't support him you know they used to think russia was bad yeah well they were they had a sense of shame back then i feel like i mean they were still doing a lot of shameless stuff but there was like broadly some some level of of um wanting to preserve some decorum wanting to preserve the sanctity of institutions right like at this point it's just like pure domination they don't care they will utilize they understand the resentment that people have towards these institutions after multiple decades of of not getting any progress for anyone in a meaningful manner.

39:04So they they recognize that animosity and they use it. They use it to their advantage to basically pick apart the corpse of America at this point for like profits for a couple of their friends. I mean, the president did a rug pull meme coin like with cryptocurrency. What are we doing? I think a lot of us see that what I spoke about earlier, the failure of in Joe Biden's term, the biggest failure of his term and what that term will always be defined for, regardless of any legislative accomplishment he did. In my opinion, that presidency would be considered a failure because it led to not incarcerating Trump and protecting voters and protecting democracy.

39:45And Gaza. Yeah. And Gaza, too. Yes. And that left us so vulnerable. And then when you see Zoran Mamdani, like we're all dying for like a savior, right? And you see this Barack Obama riz kind of look, that larger than life kind of celeb politician arrive on stage where you're like, oh, who's this guy? He's a good looking. Oh, he's spitting facts. By the way, Barack hasn't said anything about Zoran. I know. I know. So that's my next point. So my next point is then you're like, oh, OK, the Democratic Party, everybody needs to endorse him. And then I see Cory Booker, abject disappointment, puss out on it.

40:27I mean, just a total puss. I see Hakeem, puss out on it. And you see all of them. And I'm just like, and he's still like, I just saw a poll come out today, Hasan, where he's ahead of Cuomo 20 points. He's getting the Jewish vote. He's getting the white vote, the minority vote, all the votes. And I'm just like, and I think I'm going to go back to you. He's winning the conservative vote. I'm right. I go. Yes. And I go back to you. They're stupid. The Democratic. They're stupid. They don't understand. They're all about charts. I mean, these are the same people that thought we're going to spend. What was it?

41:0110 million to talk to men. 20 million.

41:04Jodie Sweetin:To learn how to talk to young men. That's what the Democratic think tank did. And what you're saying is how you talk to them. You say you don't like health care for everybody. Tough titties, son. You're going to get it anyway, because that's what we stand for. We don't let poor people die. Tough titties. You don't like your student debt being forgiven. Fine. We'll exclude your ass and you can pay all the interest. But to not be such pussies and govern like that, it would be incredible. But I don't see it from the Democratic leadership. And I've been so disappointed that Obama and others have not endorsed Zoran.

41:42Yeah. And I think it's by design. I think Israel is a major reason here. That's it. Because for Zoran, within the limited confines of the New York mayoral race, within the limited powers that he has as New York mayor, he looked at that problem. He went to the voters. He said, what do you what do you care about? They said, we want better public transit. We want affordable housing. He said, bet. I'm going to give that to you. And he ran with those policies and he was uncompromising in his worldview and he got rewarded for it. People thought and I think there are still a lot of Democratic consultants that try to claim that Israel is a third rail that you can't touch, that you can't actually criticize Israel.

42:22Otherwise, everyone will call you anti-Semitic. And and then your career is over. You'll never be able to you'll never be able to get APAC money ever again. Oh, no. And it turns out the voters rewarded Zoran for that. There were so many people, there were so many right wingers that saw that famous, that famous like four, four of the candidates getting asked, like, where would you go after you win the mayoral race? And they're like, I'm going to the Holy Land. I'm going to Israel. I'm going to Israel a tenth time. I'm going to Israel a fourth time. And I was like, I'm the mayor of New York. Like I'm staying in New York.

43:00And they were like, do you hate Israel? Why wouldn't you go to Israel? And that that actually helped them so much. And this is something that I've been trying to tell politicians. Obviously, there are politicians that I'm friends with and friendly with and talk to with regular frequency, but they already know this. We need to stop treating voters like they're they're incredibly stupid. I think like we we can we can be honest with voters we can tell them like this stuff sucks I mean you're seeing the dead children nobody likes that right why are we giving money to Israel to do that it's illegal under American law even before the the genocide because that's a word that even Bernie Sanders sometimes is too afraid to to call out openly which you know pains me because I love Bernie.

43:52But even before that, it's war crimes. It's illegal. Like Israel has absolutely done war crimes. It's unquestionable. Israel is doing a genocide that's also unquestionable. But even if you don't want to say that, Israel is doing a litany of war crimes. It is illegal for America to give weapons to a country that is doing war crimes. For the ethnocentric American voter, you can take the big message that you just took, the right moral message to a deep thinker who wants to absorb that and understand the human rights issues and violations pertaining to it. But to the selfish me, me, me capitalist, I'm so important American, these Democrats have to take the message that you and it's not as pure as maybe the leftist one, but it's effective.

44:39And you have they have to take a message that says you don't have health care, but everybody in Israel does. You can't access a college without massive debt, but everybody in Israel can. Oh, and by the way, all those kids that you're seeing dead that Miss Rachel, the YouTuber, is showing you, you're paying for that, and our politicians go ahead and autograph the bombs before they send them over. That kind of language with flyover rule people fighting, which brings me to something I wanted to talk to you about. So Zoran has been one, like, I'm like, okay, this is great messaging, but somebody who I thought kind of came out of hiding that I thought was kind of a good messenger that I enjoyed recently was Hunter Biden.

45:23I mean, I've, I've always, I've always thought he's a very telegenic individual. I've always had a fondness to Hunter Biden for his proclivity towards crack cocaine. The, the incredible stories that come out of his life, as far as like, you know, strippers falling in love with him and he's like advocating for prostitutes to unionize and stuff like that there's so many different stories like that and he's just been like a very charismatic uh fail son uh everything that the the trump children never could be right handsome he's got a big penis and also uh and very charismatic now do i think hunter biden should be the guy that's like running for office?

46:07No, I don't think so. But there are real people out there. I think with respect to what you said about rural voters and middle America, middle America voters and an environment that is ripe to capture, you're absolutely right with the way that we could be communicating this message. It's like, why are we giving, why is the Texas governor saying it is anti-Semitic for towns in Texas to want to take back$4 million in tax revenue that they're sending to Israel so they can spend it on infrastructure hardening so that when the inevitable floods and chaos that unfolds with natural disasters happens, they are better protected, they can protect their constituents better.

46:55Why is the Trump administration saying, oh, if you want FEMA dollars, you literally have to sign a loyalty pledge to Israel? that's insane that's not america first at all what are we talking about what about sarah huckabee sanders tweet where she's talking about the arkansas israel connection did you see this it was fucking crazy yeah it was just those are the evangelical nuts like those are the rapture preppers yeah yeah there are there are a lot of them right but like but there are so many more people that look at that and i think you go oh that's weird and gross like here's the thing that politicians need to know because we live around rapture preppers.

47:31They're also anti-Semitic at the same time. I have the Jew jokes are constant and nonstop in WASP environments. And yes, they will say we're Israel first, but the, all of the tropes about, oh, I'm going to Jew him down. I've heard that my entire life from rapture preppers and they are the most anti-Semitic people I know. So that is just an insane way to capture support. But again, these are the people that leave us pray. These are the people that the Israeli government is able to manipulate for support. And these are the same people that Vladimir Putin enters into manipulating through the prayer breakfast.

48:11I do find that really interesting. Like the Putin stuff is so strange to me because like these guys hated Russia for years and years, even after the USSR fell. Right. And then almost overnight, they like I went into a couple of Telegram groups or a couple of Facebook groups. And now they're like, oh, no, actually, Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine to like stop trans people. How did you arrive at this? Like, how how were you so easily duped? How can you be so easily convinced by a couple of tweaks in the algorithm in a somewhat sophisticated influence peddling operation? but like it does shock me that they uh that something that i thought was was world defining for a lot of conservatives especially you're supposed to expect the liberals to be like oh no russia are our friends they're a foreign country but like let's not fight them like nope it's the it's the republicans who are now saying like russia is our friend and we should fight ukraine instead the country that was invaded we should fight those guys because they're woke and gay, which they're not.

49:18I don't know where they got that from either, but they're just like, no, they're Democrats. Ukraine is the, is the democratic party country and Russia is the Republican party country. So they're good. And it blows my mind. There's so much homo eroticism in the Republican party and so much suppressed sexuality, bisexuality, homosexuality, closet cases. And Vladimir Putin did his topless photo op on top of that horse. And they were just frothing he did look good i hate to give him that he did look good on that he did look uh it's cool i wish i wish more politicians would do stuff like that oh my please don't tell me trump is going to get topless i mean that is just oh no i hope not so bad so i hope not because i'll be too turned on you know there are people who think he's hot which is so crazy that's like one of the things where i'm like oh you're like actually hallucinating right there's no way When ladies at like Trump rallies would be like, I would want him to grab my pussy.

50:16I'm like, oh, what? Like you think this guy is like a sexual dynamo. But you know what? This is what's interesting to me. They're all so like a lot of the men are so deeply attracted to his aura, to him, but they have to Photoshop images of him. So you get all this homoeroticism that comes out of MAGA. like that to me maggot is the most homo erotic uh movement it's it's more gay than pride month because like sure it's just they talk about genitals they're talking about sex bathrooms bathrooms it's just unbelievable they're obsessed yeah there they there is a there is definitely like an unhealthy uh sexual pathology associated like when they were talking about trump as daddy Tucker Carlson went on.

51:05I don't know if you ever saw that video where he's like, Trump is daddy and daddy's home. And I was like, yeah, you're a grown ass man. What are you saying right now? Like, and, and I don't know where that stems from. And I think I think there's like a lot of repression. And then there's a lot of like straightforward homophobia, queer phobia, things of that nature, of course, like just like pure bigotry. And you can kind of tell like you can tell who's the Lindsey Graham in the situation and who's just like a straightforward bigot. not even like let's identify those let's let's okay Moses Mike Johnson is he a straightforward bigot or would you say he's the Lindsey Graham no I don't think he's a a closeted uh gay man even though I have heard people uh make this uh inference I think he is into like weird kink shit though like I think he's the type of guy who like is into BDSM and because like he he has that porn app right like he has the porn watchdog app that him and his son uh monitor each other's like porn consumption to keep one another uh on the ball so they're not like you know they're not like looking at porn and to me it's like dude if you have your son doing that for you you got to be a real freak you know what i mean it's just like just don't watch porn what's wrong with you or just watch porn who cares like but like you got you got your son involved in this like that is that's crazy and then he also why do we know this because he volunteered this information how crazy is that he told you're a real freak with a camera rolling okay what about jd vance oh jd vance the interesting one i think he's just too i think jd vance is is uh i mean he's a straight guy but he's gay for pay you know what i mean like he he will do it like he will do it as long as long as there's like a higher uh office that he can reach because he is like a real uh he he's one of those like real sociopathic brown nosers like he knows trump sucks you've seen his drag photos right where he had is the wig on well he was in the navy you know he's like posed up yeah i i just i always tell pimes i just envision that he gets home from work and he's like hi usha And he's like, you know, tells the kids, daddy's got to have time in the bathroom.

53:20And I picture him, you know, that scene from Silence of the Lambs where they where the serial killers like putting on makeup and tucking his penis under and like dancing. I picture J.D. Vance doing that something that dark after work. I don't I don't know. I don't. Like I said, I think he's just more so I peg him as a straight man. But he's he's definitely experimented. I mean, he was in the Marines like those guys get down, you know, they do wild stuff. it's not even until recently, it wasn't even an issue. Donald Trump is doing drag alongside Rudy Giuliani. Like that is a real, that's real footage that exists out there.

53:56Rudolph Giuliani, America's mayor is in full drag. And Donald Trump is like fondling his breasts and like smelling his breasts and motorboating Rudy Giuliani's like fake titties. It's crazy. That's a real thing that exists. But now they're like, oh, how dare you do drag? You're, you must be a pedophile. Meanwhile, you got, you know, that Utah congressperson, state congressperson being like, who automatically is like, oh, if you're queer, you're a pedophile. Ridiculous, insane, hateful fucking statements. And then you have his immediate family member that was a literal pedophile that did statutory rape.

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58:03Everybody is annoyed by it, right? But nowadays, I think I would rather have the most annoying liberals constantly yelling at me for something that I've said that they have like misconstrued as problematic than seeing another like 65 year old hedge fund manager say the R word because they think it's based and cool. This backlash towards woke has gotten so out of control that it's got someone like myself who is known for, you know, saying things that maybe some people don't appreciate, you know, getting out of line every now and then, and even getting quote unquote, canceled every now and then begging for woke to come back i'm saying like bring woke back i'll get canceled we should all get canceled it's so much better than like you know whatever these freaks are doing over at twitter where they're just like talking about adolf hitler in like positive ways i'm like no you should be canceled there are certain uh social stigmas that we need to bring back.

59:09Like we need to use shame as a tool against this seemingly unstoppable force of shameless behavior.

59:18Jodie Sweetin:That's what pumps talks about the shame all the time. I say all the time, like these people have no shame. They should be publicly shamed, but they don't feel it. They don't realize how absolutely it's like, I've never in my life seen people that have no shame, none yeah no i i it's it's it's incredible they wear it as a badge of honor they almost wear that like backlash as as a as a mark of courage where they're like yeah i must be doing something right because i'm really pissing people off and it's like it's like a spoiled child like oh i shit in my diapers and now you have to smell it and haha i did this deliberately it's like well okay you're sitting in your own shit now like you're a grown-ass adult sitting in your own shit what do You mean you're not owning anybody but yourself in this situation, buddy.

1:00:08And we need to, like, remind people of that. Because for, you know, all of my disagreements with Tim Walz, I think, like, one of the things that he did very well in the early stages of the campaign and that immediately was backpocketed was, like, calling the Republicans weird. Like, saying that they're weirdos. It's fun to bully conservatives. We need to make that. They need to be bullied. They bully us all the time. And I think we need to normalize bullying MAGA and bullying the shit out of them because it's just, you know, and I agree. And then if by bullying them, we get canceled, then, OK, we'll check ourselves and get out of cancel jail at a later date.

1:00:45But until then, we have to have all hands on deck. OK, Hassan, had it or hit it thirst traps? Ooh, ooh, this is going to hit me hard. Of course, I can't. I can't say this right after that GQ article just came out. Oh, is it? He's cute. You look great. Speak of daddy right there. Oh, it's embarrassing. You look great.

1:01:09Jodie Sweetin:You have to say, you know, Pumps has a huge crush on you. He knows that. He knows that. I'm old enough to be his grandmother, but he knows that. Not grandmother. Maybe sister. Yeah. He's charming, too. Smart, charming. Hassan, had it or hit it, a J.D. Vance coup. Oh, my God. No, I think that would also be devastating. So I've had it. But don't you think that he's plotting? Like he keeps. Oh, for sure. I think he's plotting. There's no question about it. Yeah. No, he has been noticeably absent in the conversation when it comes to the Epstein stuff. If you realize like he he stays out of stuff like that, because I think he's always like in a let's wait and see.

1:01:54He approaches everything with like, let's wait and see where this goes. And I think eventually, I think it's partially because he wants to use the existing momentum of like the Trump train for his inevitable pathway into the White House. But but I think if given the opportunity, he would. Oh, my God, he would he would have a Brutus moment. He would shank Donald Trump so hard, which is rewarding for sure for only a brief moment, because I do think that he is backed by some of the most rapacious freaks out there, like the Peter Thiel's and the Curtis Yarvin's of the world. Like those guys, like the Silicon Valley techno monarch attitude that they have is so alarming.

1:02:45Yeah, it's terrifying. And this – see, here's my thing. I know you said that you didn't – and no pun intended, I know on your part. You said you didn't peg J.D. Vance as being gay. I kind of do because this is my theory and our listeners have heard it. Think about pre-Silicon Valley J.D. Vance. Hillbilly elegy. He had no eyeliner. He was a little chubby. He was a little frumpy. He called Trump America's Hitler. And then he goes out to Silicon Valley and he hangs out with Peter Thiel, who everybody knows is out of the closet. And that motherfucker comes back yassified and psychotic. I mean, he got queer eyed.

1:03:29Peter Thiel queer eyed him. He looks, you can tell. I think he's just a robot. Like I do legitimately think like he'll play any role necessary. He's certainly a smart guy too. He's not like a stupid person by any means. but I I also think he's too invested in like being cool right like this is a known secret and I'm surprised that more people haven't brought this up but like JD Vance is in like some very questionable chat groups on Twitter with like teenagers what talking to like yeah he's talking to like um like Twitter uh he follows a bunch of white supremacist accounts on Twitter and like some of those guys are war teens when JD Vance was in the chat groups with them.

1:04:13Like he's gone on ridiculous podcasts. Um, like even more ridiculous than like Donald Trump going on Alex Jones, right? Cause Alex Jones is still like a mainstream figure. Like he'll go on like super random Peter Thiel backed podcasts. Uh, and, and, and that's where a lot of the, the stuff about him, like, uh, treating women as like a brood mares came from, uh, because he would just like go on those podcasts and be like, yeah, women should just stay at home and, and, you know, and keep breeding so that like the American destiny can unfold, right? Like stuff like that, that he was saying, he was saying at those pockets because he thought that that was like the meta that he thought that was the cool thing to say in those groups.

1:04:52So he is, he, he, he plays every side of the field. And he will pick whatever, whatever movement will, will back him at the end. And I think it's going to be like the, the Peter Thiels of the world. But as far as like his sexual proclivity is, you know, his activities goes, I just I think, like I said, at most, J.D. Vance will be gay for pay. If it's an if it's an opportunity for him to like for career advancement, he'll do it for sure. Do you think that? OK, let's say let's just one final thing and then we'll let you go. I want to run a hypothetical case. All right. Trump's cankles cause blood clot drops dead.

1:05:36Oh, my God. J.D. Vance is sworn in. The MAGA base. Okay, first of all, there would be, you know, conspiracy theories, all this stuff. Can J.D. Vance, you know, calm and keep the MAGA base tethered to him? No. No. I agree. No, I don't think anyone can. I think we see this with, like, charismatic strongmen. uh they're they're they're second in command or whoever like the the uh continuation of the movement is never ends up winning over the entire base uh i mean look at chavez versus maduro it's just like it's a it's a similar uh it's a similar example where donald trump is a that's why i call him like white man's barack obama like donald trump is a uniquely charismatic figure that speaks to the frequency of white supremacists in a way that no one has ever been able to do and no one will ever be able to do you will never have another zesty new york billionaire uh real estate developer who loves uh broadway musicals go to west virginia and talk about how grayden carter is a sissy and vanity fair parties are no longer hot uh and you got like you know former coal miners sitting there and be like, yeah, Graydon Carter is a pussy, Mr.

1:06:54President. You don't know who that is. What are you talking about? Why do you care about this? And that speaks to Trump's cult-like figure, his cult-like figurehead status and how he's been able to keep these guys captivated. And part of that is because of the policies that he correctly is able to get people to pay attention to, you know, the villains that he has presented. But a big part of that is his telegenic nature. And I don't think J.D. Vance, I think J.D. Vance is too much of a nerd. He was very, he was intensely disliked in the campaign. He was actually seen as a burden to Donald Trump.

1:07:36And we forget that. Why was he seen as a burden? Because he's the guy who is supposed to be Trump's attack dog for liberal media. He can speak the language of liberals. But I think a lot of Republicans, especially in the MAGA base, don't want that. It just comes across as like fake. It comes across as phony. I always say like Pete Buttigieg and J.D. Vance are the type of people that middle America knows very well. When those guys come into your town, you know layoffs are about to happen. The McKinsey consultant types, they come in with a smile on their face and then you lose your job because they had to eliminate redundancy.

1:08:12So people are very, people are very aware of of uh who jd vance is i think and and therefore i don't believe that he'll be able to whip up the same base of support because it's not just about being able to put on a show you know putting on the vest and and maybe the snake skin boots and just being like i'm a real american or uh look at how racist i can get like there is a donald trump has been able to hit that frequency so perfectly without compromising. And he was able to communicate earnestly to some of the worst people on the planet. Yeah, yeah, that's true. He was. All right, Hassan, we love you.

1:08:51You know, you were our first famous podcast fan. Ever. That's crazy. You guys have been killing it. I see the clips all the time. And I love when people that don't know who you guys are will be like, wow, look at these like liberal wine moms saying crazy stuff. I'm like, no, they've been there. They know. they know they're there they've been at this fight for a minute now you know but i don't i don't let them know because i feel like that's a part of the marketing right yeah where it's like we learn when they first encounter you at first they google where were gin and pumps on january 6th right before they spend any time did they work at fox they look kind of fox you know they were i'm kind of getting fox news vibes it's a whole part of the you know of our spell that we that we're casting on uh white women across the country we're doing it together right like i got the the bro types who would normally be captivated by the manosphere so when people look at me they go like oh this guy like he he likes to to lift weights and and i don't know he seems kind of broey to me like is he a misogynist and then you know uh and then people maybe tune into that frequency a little Tate, then come in and watch me.

1:10:06And you got the liberal wine moms who are like, well, yeah, these are these gals. I identify with them like they're just shooting the shit and, you know, they're saying the right things. So it's this it's this unique coalition that we're building in basis of basis of support that the Democrats have lost. And I'll tell you what I have. I've had young men really has. We have the gay triads. We have a huge LGBTQIA plus community audience, and we call them the gay triads. But I'll tell you what, women, white women love gay men and gay men love white women. So it's a great alliance. So I think we keep tag teaming this.

1:10:44Hassan, I hope we make it to 2026. I hope everything's not militarized by then. I'm sincerely worried about it. That's not hyperbole. Oh yeah, no, for sure. But we love you. And it's so good to have you on. I want to, the next time you come, I want you to come to the Bible Belt and I want Marsh to come and just feel, I want to take you to a, like a cowboy steak restaurant. Cause I know that for you, it's like being in the middle of a national gym. Yeah, I've been to, I've been to Oklahoma a bunch. My brother used to live in Oklahoma when he worked at Boeing. So I, I'm, I'm very familiar. Remember with the, with your former governor, Mary Fallon and everything.

1:11:22She sucked. National oil field prayer day, baby. That's my goat. My goat. All right, Hassan, bye. we love you bye thanks it's on love you guys keep up the great work bye okay bye

1:11:38Jodie Sweetin:i mean he's so smart he's deeply attractive he's so smart he's so deeply attractive he's so well spoken he's built i mean i'm just looking at him the whole time thinking you're like the full fucking package dude let me tell you what i like about hassan is he's not one of these titty baby liberals that's monitoring and correcting people all the time. He's a fuck you liberal. And he's open to saying, hey, sometimes I mouth off and I might say the wrong thing. Cancel my ass and I'll work my way out of the cancellation. Because his heart's in the right place. And I think the message with the Hassans and us of the world is we're fighting for the right thing.

1:12:17We're open to you calling us out. But in the time that we're trying to get the fascists out of the government, it. If people are 90 % on your side, don't check them. Check the fascists instead. Right.

1:12:29Jodie Sweetin:There's plenty of things you can be bitching about. We've got to coalesce. I mean, if I'm willing to swallow the whole Charlie Kirk trans thing, because Gavin Newsom seems to be the only real fighter on the national stage. Well, here's the thing. You don't have to support somebody 100%. Right. Like, I mean, look, I didn't like when he did that. That's the thing about Trump. All the Trump supporters say, well, I think his tweets are crazy, but I really like him. Right. I think that grabbing by the pussy comment was kind of weird, but I kind of like him. So the liberals need to take or progressives need to take a mindset that that Charlie Kirk interview was bullshit, but he's fighting the fight right now.

1:13:10By God, I'm going to I'm going to regram, retweet. I'm going to do all this stuff because he's out there. He's putting himself out there. You don't have to like 100 % of a politician or 100 % of a politician's actions. In fact, I think it'd be weird if you did.

1:13:24Jodie Sweetin:I totally think it's weird if you did. Right? That's why you have Trump and all the things. All right. Thanks to Hassan Piker. He is beautiful. And here's our book. We have our tooth model, Jennifer modeling this. And Pumps, I just want to tell you all one thing. The very first time we ever met Hassan, oh, his Hassan messaging. The very first time Pumps met Hassan, we arrived at his house and she's like, oh, my God, you're hot. I couldn't help it. It just came out. Right out of the gates, Mrs. Robinson. And then we hung out with Hassan at the DNC and she would just march right up to him. She could just, Hassan, you're just so handsome.

1:14:02Jodie Sweetin:Yeah. And we'd get a picture and he'd be standing next to me. I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no. I want a full arm around. I want people to think that we're a couple. She did. I did. I mean, he's that cute. I forgot that you did that. That's so cute. He is, I love him. He is the best. And Will and Austin that he does the other podcasts with, they're fabulous. It's a great group. It really is. Pump to tell them. We will see you next Tuesday and Thursday.

1:14:30I'll tell you what I've had it with. Let's hear it. I'm at it with them. Listen up, patriots, gaytriots, and natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called iHip News. It's Monday through Friday, every day. 15 to 20 minute hot takes on the political landscape of the United States of America always served with a side of petty grievances.

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