In short
The episode is a rant about sports spectators and right-wing hypocrisy, mixed with personal stories and news. Hosts complain about “MAGA” fans in Oklahoma doing belly bumps in stadium seats, heckling LeBron during free throws, and general “fat shaming”/body-judgment behavior; they also joke extensively about athletes’ genital visibility, especially Victor Wembanyama at an NBA game. They argue that repeating Trump/Charlie Kirk lines can be treated as “threats” when others repeat them, citing a Tennessee man jailed 37 days over a Facebook meme about “we have to get over it,” later settled for $835k and with charges dropped.
Notable examples
belly bumping in the stands; a Thunder fan yelling “fuck you LeBron, you’re a pussy”; the Wembanyama “shorty panties” discussion; the Larry Bushart case.
Guests
none featured; only recurring hosts (Jennifer “Pumps,” Angie “Angela,” Kylie absent) and staff member Seth producing.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPumps' Grievances at Sporting Events
0:45 to 2:20
Discussion about the awkwardness of grown men belly bumping at games.
“And when they celebrate, they belly bump each other.”
Fat Shaming and GLP-1 Medications
2:20 to 4:40
Exploration of fat shaming and the side effects of GLP-1 medications.
“Number one, your dramatic weight loss on GLP once has caused your fat shaming in overdrive.”
Criticism of Athletes from Spectators
4:40 to 7:30
Hosts critique fans who disrespect professional athletes like LeBron James.
“You're in confined quarters in an arena.”
Vulnerability of Athletes and Their Performance
7:30 to 10:05
Discussion on athletes' physical appearances and the scrutiny they face.
“Yeah, I've completely had it with that or acting like, God, you missed the shot or something.”
Travel Tales of Misery
10:05 to 12:20
Story about a frustrating travel experience involving a service dog.
“And I'm sure they all have, you know, all these rituals that professional athletes have.”
Josh's Middle Seat Adventure
14:01 to 16:28
Learn about a humorous story involving a friend struggling in a middle seat on a flight.
“And so if this happened to you, Josh would enjoy it.”
Review Roundup
16:44 to 19:59
The hosts read and discuss listener reviews, highlighting their favorite moments and feedback.
“You are obsessed with both the large and the small.”
Discussion on Free Speech and Consequences
19:59 to 23:21
Explore the case of a man jailed for a meme and the implications of free speech in America.
“In the post, Larry Bushart shared memes that accused Turning Point USA of perpetuating hate.”
Hypocrisy in Politics
23:21 to 28:00
Delve into the hypocrisy surrounding political figures and their actions in light of current events.
“It's fine when they say it, but nobody's allowed to repeat it, or it's hateful or threatening.”
Exploring the Hypocrisy of Politicians
28:00 to 29:15
Discussion on politicians' private lives and potential scandals.
“of Lindsey Graham, Moses, Mike grinder, Johnson, um, Josh Hawley, get all of the Google search history, the porn hub history, the grinder accounts, all of it in pain staking detail.”
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A Bold Proposal for Public Therapy
29:15 to 31:04
Ideas for a radical approach to expose and remedy political hypocrisy.
“Do you think I could win if I ran on that platform?”
Humor in Political Commentary
31:04 to 33:58
Light-hearted banter about the absurdities of current politicians.
“But this would be your, your main initiative.”
Voicemail from the Audience
35:06 to 37:03
Listener shares a humorous experience related to a previous episode.
“Okay, so you have some voice memos for us.”
Critique of Family Sizes in Politics
37:03 to 42:04
Discussion on the implications of large families among political figures.
“And I just think the Democratic Party should go to Oklahoma, go to Tennessee, go to Alabama, go to Mississippi, go to Arkansas.”
Marriage, Money, and Wedding Expectations
42:04 to 46:08
Explore the evolving views on marriage, finances, and wedding expenses.
“but you know what I'm saying like of course not as a principal but even me with three kids when somebody says, yeah, we have four or five.”
Whitelash and Inadequacy
46:08 to 47:24
Discuss the concept of whitelash and the underlying feelings of inadequacy.
“I just listened to your last episode where you talked about whitelash, i.e.”
Reflections on Success and Jealousy
47:24 to 48:36
Analyze the impact of jealousy on personal and societal levels in the context of success.
“And putting people down based on race, sexuality, and all that, that's all they have because they know how bad they sat.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Angie Sullivan:So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, gay-triots, they-triots, black-triots, brown-triots, we love you and all of MAGA. Every single one of them can do what pumps? Fuck off! Welcome to America's Top DEI podcast where we believe diversity is our strength as two white women with zero diversity. Um, all right, pumps, what have you had it with? Okay. What I've had it with is when you go to a sporting event and you see these men who, who give off MAGA, maybe they're not, but that's what I see. And when they celebrate, they belly bump each other. And these are grown ass men.
0:51And I'm just like, first of all, you're a fat ass. Second of all, get back to the couch and eat potato chips and drink your, you know, heavy butt or whatever. Like the fact that you are belly bumping as a grown man in the stadium, I saw three different people doing it last night. Now, granted, we're in Oklahoma, so expectations are low, but that was just, that's a bridge too far for me. The belly bumping. If athletes do it, I'm all in because they're part of the game. But Bozo the Clown and his brother doing it in the stands to me is just damn near offensive. Wait, they did it to you? Like wanted to belly bump you?
1:32No, but like to each other. Like instead of just a group high five or a fist bump, it was a jump up, put their stomachs out and belly bump like they were players. I've never seen players belly bump. I've seen it. I know I've seen it. probably more football than basketball, but I'm just like, calm down. You're not a player.
1:54Angie Sullivan:Let me ask you this. Are the bumps on the belly such that they protrude in a fashion and are of a certain type of squishiness that the bumping kind of... Like we have a vibration. Makes sense. Yeah. Yes, exactly. Like the bellies are out anyway. And I will just say for the record, I'm sitting there last night and I look across the court and guess who I thought that I saw? Don Jr.
2:28Angie Sullivan:So much to unpack here. Number one, your dramatic weight loss on GLP once has caused your fat shaming in overdrive. I just want to point that out. Okay. I'm not judging it. I'm just making mere observations. Okay. And I think that on all of these GLP-1 medications, when they list side effects, it should say exacerbates one's ability to fat shame. Filterlessly fat shaming may be a side effect. I'm not judging. I'm just saying that should be listed. You may start to love fat shaming as a side effect. There's no body positivity in Pump's GLP-1 plan. Especially if I think you're MAGA. Yeah. And then the second thing that I wanted to point out is, um, what was the second thing you said there at the end?
3:22Angie Sullivan:Okay. I wanted to point out to the listener that for the last two years, everywhere we go, if Pumps and I go to lunch, if we're like driving somewhere and we're like meandering through a parking lot, looking for a parking spot, she's like, Oh my God, that guy looks just like Don Jr. Oh my God. This guy looks just like somebody in the political world. Yeah. And so let me ask you this. If it was Alex Jones, would you talk to him? No, I mean, I wouldn't have like gone over and fronted him out because he was across the court. The guy I thought was Alex Jones was across the court. But if I would have walked by him, like what I've said, Hey, fat ass motherfucker, you suck.
4:05Here we go. There's that side effect.
4:07Angie Sullivan:of the GLP-1 again. He's on GLP-1s too. I can tell. Alex Jones is on GLP-1s? Yeah. He's had a dramatic reduction in size in the last six months. I think anybody, I mean, I think it's kind of a miracle drug except for the side effect that we've been discussing right now. Except for the fat shaming comes out in people. The filterless, judgmental fat shaming. The belly bump. I'm trying to think if I've had it with that. And that's close. You're in confined quarters in an arena. You know, you have your little seat. And so there's a lot of things that could go wrong. You could fall over. You could knock somebody's drink over.
4:53And I just, I really, I've had it with people that sit in the stands and act like, Like, I'm doing this. This is on me. That's just an extension. Here's what I don't like when I go to basketball games or tennis matches.
5:10Angie Sullivan:Those are the only two sports I go to see. So these people are incredibly athletic, like 0.00001 % of all of the human beings, gifted athleticism, plus hours of rigorous training, dedication, all the stuff. And then you've got the aforementioned belly bumpers whose weight I may or may not just leave for the audience imagination because I'm trying to be better and embrace more body positivity. Unlike my bigoted co-host, America's top podcaster, Princess Diana Podcasting, GLP One user and abuser. Right. Queen Av. Angela Pump Sullivan. Um, I, um, I don't like it when they act like somebody like LeBron James is a pussy or something.
5:58Angie Sullivan:Like I went to this Lakers Thunder game in Los Angeles and we were sitting on the Oklahoma city side behind the bench. And I was with my son, my husband, one of my sons, one of my husbands, my only husband, my son one of my sons my husband and hasan piker that the controversial hasan piker that fox news loses its mind over and centrist democrats lose their mind over and this guy sitting right in front of us and we're pretty close to the court like three rows back and this guy sitting in front of us he's okc guy lebron goes up to shoot free throws and this guy's like fuck you lebron hey LeBron, fuck you, you're a pussy.
6:39Angie Sullivan:And I'm like, all right, you need to pipe down, pump the brakes. You prick. LeBron would completely kick your ass in 2.5 seconds. Quit acting like you are commensurate with LeBron James. I'm sorry. He's 41. I agree. He's older for a basketball player, but he's LeBron fucking James. And I was cheering for the thunder, But I opposed this Thunder fan trying to, it's one thing to trash talk, like airball, that stuff. But LeBron is at the line. He's one of the, you know, probably the second best basketball player behind Michael Jordan to ever play basketball. He's 41 years old. He's scoring 20 points a game still at that age.
7:25Angie Sullivan:And here's this Rube from Oklahoma sitting there calling LeBron James a pissy. And I've had it with that. Yeah, I've completely had it with that or acting like, God, you missed the shot or something. It's like, bitch, you couldn't even handle the basketball. So please stop with the criticism. Yeah, I think people generally, they just suck. But I will give you an update. you know i on our memorial day show i just it has crossed my mind every time i see victor women yama i think he is proportional at all he has a very dick size he's it's got to be huge so i mean i they had on white shorts last night i probably spent oh god no so many minutes trying to see and i just simply could not see which led me to the thing like can you tuck for a basketball game?
8:17Could you do the whole basketball game being tucked? Is that what they do with it?
8:21Angie Sullivan:So you went to game two of the Western Conference finals. And how much of that game, how many of the four quarters, there's four quarters, how many of those quarters did you spend looking in between Victor Wimbenyana's legs and thinking about the size of his penis? i'd say 20 to 30 i mean i was focused i was focused on it because i thought i've got to be able i think the thing is is they wear these little uh shorty panties they wear these you know everything's kind of they can't have stuff they can't it's a physical sport you can't have your schlong flopping around to where if it was flopping around where you could visibly see it than think about how vulnerable this is with our anticipated guesstimates of the size of it.
9:17Angie Sullivan:What a liability that would be if that thing were visible to the eye through the shorts. And then, because, I mean, just scale-wise, I agree. So I don't think that means anything because, and now, fuck you, Pumps. The next NBA game I'm going to, you've planted this seed in my head. I'm going to start looking at all of them. this is what happens i kind of go you don't get laid i don't just i mean i would say 25 percent was victor wimbid nyama just trying to assess the size but i went through i went through every team i was not discriminating based on height and i was just like can it i didn't did you see any penises were you able to answer so they have to have they wear these little athletic shorties these little panties that they put on where stuff is cupped and pushed and you know i'm sure that there's probably like a pre-game spank.
10:10Angie Sullivan:And I'm sure they all have, you know, all these rituals that professional athletes have. I know that's kind of gross to think about, but you would think they probably would have some, you know, I eat and then I beat off and then, you know, because it's all about their body. Their body is their commodity. And so I'm sure, I mean, I think it's the aforementioned loser LeBron James, who spends like a million dollars a year on his fitness, his diet, all of his stuff. Yeah. So those were my observations from the Thunder gang. Well, thank you so much. much, Angela, for the updates on your evolution and fat shaming and cracking the case.
10:48It's not me.
10:49Angie Sullivan:Cracking the case on your penile missions that you go on. Okay. So I don't really have a grievance as much as I have something that you're really going to enjoy. This is for you, Pumps. So Josh Welch, the husband of mine, the hypochondriac, the second greatest legal mind in podcasting behind you, he had to fly a couple of days ago, was supposed to fly to out of state to get a client and bring him to court in Oklahoma. and for those of you that live in the Texas Oklahoma Kansas kind of area aka tornado alley you know in the spring oftentimes you hear the phrases be weather aware and you know storms rolling in and then there's all of these crazy like meat curtains and rain curtains and you know all these all these descriptors for the tornadoes and all the types of stuff that happens right Right.
11:52Angie Sullivan:So he goes, he has, there's not a direct flight to his destination. And I'm going to keep this vague because I don't want to give away any of the details of his privacy, but he had to fly to Dallas to connect a flight to a different city. And so he left the, he went to game one of the Western Conference finals when the Thunder lost. He got two hours of sleep because he had to get up at three 30 and he went to the Oklahoma city world airport and whatever. And, uh, he, uh, it'll always be world to me. And he gets to Dallas and then there's storms, or as they say in Oklahoma, we got weather. He never makes his connector.
12:39Angie Sullivan:He arrives in Dallas at 7 30 AM. They said, you're not going to make it, blah, blah. They book him on a flight going back to Oklahoma City at 1 p.m. It gets pushed back four or five hours. He finally gets on the plane. He sits on the runway for three hours waiting for air traffic control to clear him for takeoff. So at this state in his travel, he could be in Dubai. I mean, he's 12 hours in on this thing at this point. So he sends a message to our family group text and he says, on runway in Dallas, this is in the evening now, and he's been in Dallas for hours. Listener, it's like a two hour, 15 minute drive from Oklahoma.
13:23Angie Sullivan:Yeah, he could have ran into the car. So it says on runway in Dallas, going back home. I never got out of Dallas. Pretty brutal on two and a half hours of sleep. And then he sends an image of just shooting down to where his feet are in the seat. And it says, I've been on the runway in Dallas for three hours and the surface dog behind me is right up on me. And in this image, you can just see those dog paws. They're like in his foot space. Okay. And then it gets better. he says um uh i'm in coach in a middle seat too
14:15here's the thing i'm laughing because it's him i told you i had a great story for you i knew you
14:21Angie Sullivan:would love this i knew that because josh would love it if this happened to you on top you and Josh, you're like brother and sister. And so if this happened to you, Josh would enjoy it. And I couldn't deprive you of this. No, that is so great. The service dog encroaching. And then the final text that he's in, the biggest prima donna on the planet, in coach in a middle seat. And then I FaceTimed him the next day and he said, you know, I could have put in the family text how miserable I was and how I was just melting down. or I could just lean in and show the family what a leader, even tempered and how I just take life and roll with the punches.
15:06Angie Sullivan:I was like, Oh yeah, that's what you do. That's what you do. Josh, you're a roll with. Let me tell you what I've had it with. Here's one thing I've had it with. Josh acts like when he, when he meets somebody for the first time, it's like, Oh, I'm so laid back. And he appears like if you meet him and you're just going to a dinner or something. He's a pretty chill guy. This is such a lie, a bald face lie, because he is so not laid back about anything. I mean, that's why knowing that he went through this day, because it would push him. And I just had to share that with you. Yeah. No, Josh, first of all, what I love about the middle seat so much is people don't realize Josh is super tall.
15:55I mean, he's like six, four, he says he's six, five, but he's, so that's a lot of person in a middle seat, but just going through Josh's hair care routine, he's not laid back. He has more products than you and I combined over the last 10 years. Yeah.
16:15Angie Sullivan:No, no, there's nothing laid back about him. Nothing. And when he wants something, He wants it right that immediate second. And just wears you out until you do it. Yeah. All right. Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. Seth is producing the show today because Kylie has abandoned us to take a couple of days off. Hello, Seth. Hi, Seth. How are you? I'm doing great. How are y 'all doing? Great. I like your shirt. Thank you so much. I've got some reviews for you. do you want some reviews yeah yes okay this might be one of my favorite reviews of all time okay five stars from burn them all someone gave y 'all one star for making fun of micro that is that goes into your column angie you america's biggest size queen is angela don Sullivan.
17:15Angie Sullivan:You are obsessed with both the large and the small. I think an average size sports dick, you just wouldn't even be remotely interested in. You're only interested in grande or pequeña. What's funny about that? You know how you always say MAGA is a capitalist with no capital or whatever it is. What do you say? I am like a size queen and a dick queen and I have no dick. I mean, there's not a dick around me within miles. I haven't been laid in. Like, I probably wouldn't know a dick if they came up and put it right next to my face. It's been so long. That's probably why I'm obsessed with it. I think that's exactly why you're obsessed with it.
17:58Angie Sullivan:Yeah. Like at the Thunder Game. I think that's exactly it. Just out of curiosity, the belly bumpers, are you going teeny weeny or donkey dick? I was more soft serve on them. Did you see how Seth and me Yeah, he's like, I'm out. For those of you that are listening, we were all on screen together. And I just started asking Pumps about penis size again. And Seth just immediately removed himself from the street. You know what? I appreciate that our staff draws boundaries with your inappropriate discussions of penis size and fat shaming. And I can't even believe we're calling ourselves progressive.
18:35Angie Sullivan:I mean, this is just unbelievable. Seth, you can come back now. I'm an HR assistant, so I just couldn't legally be in that conversation. Fair. Yeah, you are. And employee of the week. Yeah, it would really put you in a bind. Okay. What's the next review? Okay, another five star. This one's from YesYes, a thousand times yes. Huge fan, they say. Listening to Jennifer and Angie get straight to the point and call out the immense hypocrisy with such foul eloquence makes me instinctively fistful. pump. Love that. That's excellent. Excellent. Okay. What's the last one? Okay. The last one it's from restored sanity.
19:17Thank you ladies, Kylie, Jennifer, and Angie, Seth, uh, you have restored my sanity coming from a politically disaffected family leaning right in parentheses in a world where people have been blowing Bubba since I was born. I thought I was the weird one. Humanity? Community? Who values that? Well, women with conviction. I've had my patients tested and I'm negative. I wish all the conservatives a life of soft serve and I'm not ashamed to say that I've had it.
19:53Angie Sullivan:You see, Pums? You see what you do to the electorate? You see what you're doing? You see that? The soft serve, perfectly used. Used perfectly. You see that? It's contagious. it's contagious the uh penile shaming and sexual performance shaming all right i have some news stories i want to discuss with okay get it okay um let's pop this up a man gets eight hundred and thirty five thousand dollars settlement after being jailed for charlie kirk meme kyle griffin reports on x a tennessee man who was jailed for 37 days in jail for 37 days over a facebook post He shared after the killing of Charlie Kirk, just agreed to an$835 ,000 settlement with the sheriff's office that detained him.
20:44Angie Sullivan:In the post, Larry Bushart shared memes that accused Turning Point USA of perpetuating hate. So here is the meme that he was arrested for. and he it just says this seems relevant today and this is the day that charlie kirk was shot trump said um on the perry high school mass shooting one day after we have to get over it so larry bushart posts we have to get over it about charlie kirk so he basically puts up a mirror to MAGA. And as MAGA does, it is, they're so fragile. Their belief system, their egos, their psyches, their manhood, everything is so fragile that it's so easily deconstructed. The meme depicted this quote, we have to get over it.
21:41Angie Sullivan:The local sheriff claimed the meme could be interpreted as a threat against Perry County High School in Tennessee since both locations share the named Perry. What? The school district reported having no records at all related to Bushart or the Post. He was charged with threatening mass violence and held on a$2 million bond he couldn't afford. The district attorney declined to prosecute the case and dropped the charges. Bushart's lawsuit later argued that the sheriff's office could not produce a single record showing anyone viewed the meme as a genuine threat and the local school district reported having no records at all related to this post.
22:25Angie Sullivan:Angie. Okay, here, this is, this is what enrages me. Donald Trump, after a school shooting, as a president said, we're just going to get over it. And that was fine. Nobody had a heart attack. Nobody was worried about, nobody thought that was threatening. That was just, oh, that's just Trump. Maybe that's just what we should do, because we've all got to have 27 AK-15s or whatever they're called run around. But yet, when you repeat it, you're threatening high school. I mean, first of all, that sheriff should be immediately shickhand. I mean, that is unethical, immoral. I'm sure he won't be, because I'm sure his, you know, the voters like him.
23:12But that is a travesty against the First Amendment. I'm glad the sheriff's office had to pay. I hope the sheriff gets shiky in. But I just, I get so tired of when people repeat things that Trump says, or Charlie Kirk said, or whomever you want to pick in this regime. It's fine when they say it, but nobody's allowed to repeat it, or it's hateful or threatening. I mean, that is the biggest bunch of horse shit. It enrages me. Yeah.
23:43Angie Sullivan:And I think it's important to point out that, you know, they wanted to martyr Charlie Kirk and nobody in Charlie Kirk's orbit. Not one person has brought up gun violence. Charlie Kirk himself died talking about gun violence and how important the Second Amendment was to him. What's interesting about the Turning Point case is Charlie Kirk was financed by this guy, this like 70-year-old billionaire that wants to make kids hateful little bigoted pricks like Charlie Kirk was and like all of the Turning Point people are and make all the women as batshit crazy and psychotic as Erica Kirk is. So this guy funds Turning Point.
24:25Angie Sullivan:And they have two main things the last four years. They're anti-vaccine. Vaccines have caused all of these problems. and they are pro-gun. The 70-year-old dies of COVID and Charlie Kirk gets shot. They died for the things, totally preventable deaths, totally. Because that's the thing. They died owning the libs. Yeah. They died thinking they were owning the libs. And the thing about the libs are, is like, my thing is like, Charlie, you're so stupid. Like you didn't own me. I never, ever feel like owned by them. Never. Like they get so triggered. If we call if Hillary Clinton calls them deplorables, Joe Biden called them trash, stage five meltdowns, fetal position, snot slinging, Jesse waters in a complete tailspin.
25:11Angie Sullivan:You and I get called constantly all of these things. I couldn't care less. It really doesn't mean anything to me that some dipshit triple Trumper thinks we're witches or we get too much Botox or all of that's true. I'm not even going to put up a big argument to it. We are Botoxed up witches. It does not affect how I think it doesn't change the fact that MAGA is an anti-family pro-pedophilia death cult. It doesn't change that. So you can ridicule me all you want, but their worldview and their social conscious is so weakly constructed that if you expose one tiny truth about them, you put up the slightest mirror.
25:54Angie Sullivan:Maybe it's even a vaguely opaque mirror. It will always be the stage five meltdown. It surprises me zero that the sheriff is in Tennessee. Tennessee is also the place where you saw the imagery of the state congressman who is a black man standing up against the white KKK looking security guy or other congressmen preventing him from going in as they remove black representation in Tennessee. So it surprises me zero that Tennessee is on, gotten in the elevator and said, what is lower than the lowest floor that we can go? How can we fuck up and kill and take away rights of people? And I guarantee you, I guarantee you a lot of the people involved in the decision making to arrest this guy and detain him for 38 days.
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26:46Angie Sullivan:I would bet both of my French bulldogs lives on it. Let's say there's five men involved. Four of five have very troubling, uh, Pornhub history searches. I'm just saying, and I'm fine if they want to have to do that stuff. I'm fine. I don't care if they're into trans porn. I'm fine with it. What I care about is the hypocrisy. Yeah, I completely agree. And they're 150 million percent all went to the voting booth to vote for Trump so many times. If I was ever president, and this would be really unethical, but I would do it anyway. I would demand that like all of the people that have voted against LGBTQ plus equality and all of the people that have voted to remove black representation in certain states.
27:43Angie Sullivan:I would demand I would make it an executive order on day one after I tore down the ballroom. My first executive order would be go and you would be in charge of this. I'd put you in charge of you would be my attorney general. And I would say, get all this, all the military, all of the agencies, go get the search histories of Lindsey Graham, Moses, Mike grinder, Johnson, um, Josh Hawley, get all of the Google search history, the porn hub history, the grinder accounts, all of it in pain staking detail. I want no stone left unturned. And then as a present to America in the defeat of Trump, we would do a live stream, however long it took PowerPoint presentation in breathtaking detail of every single moment.
28:30Angie Sullivan:Like, like Ted Cruz watched this part of the porn and then he rewinded it and then he watched it again and then he rewound it even deeper. And then the next day he went back to this part in the porn and we're all going to watch it together. We're all going to watch what Ted watched together. And now we're going to watch what Lindsay watches. And then, you know, little Moses, Mike grinder Johnson. And, you know, he lives with a man in DC that answers the door in his panties. This is true. You can look it up. I want to know what they're watching together. And it would be a gift. I would just say, I don't know if this is legal and or ethical, but I know we need this.
29:03Angie Sullivan:Right. And so we are going to, we're going to release all of this, um, titillating information as a, as a group therapy for the nation. Do you think I could win if I ran on that platform? I'm just, while you're sitting here talking about this, I've never heard this idea. I was thinking this is the most brilliant, like I've heard you say a lot of brilliant things. Thank you. This is it. This is number one. And you know, I'm equal to the task. I will go in and I will crawl in that ass. Yeah. I will find every, You know who else I want to throw in there too, though? Who? I think we've got to throw in a bunch of state representatives, like from Oklahoma.
29:46You have to have Mark Wayne Mullins. Well, I agree.
29:49Angie Sullivan:But he's, I mean, he's a state, he's a senator. He's not local anymore. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, of course we would get to that. But that's not as interesting nationally. I want to focus. I want to focus on the big, the biggest hypocrite. And like today it would be like, I would go up to the, from the, I would, you know, I'd make it from the resolute desk and I would make you stand behind me and how Trump makes everybody stand behind him. But I also think it would be great to have like some of the hottest, like federal marshals and FBI agents, like really like dress like really sexy too and i want you in like catch me fuck me heels and like bright red lipstick and like your red glasses and you can go sergeant and you can have like a little ruler tell us what ted cruz's information said and then as they're giving the presentation i'd like to see you like looking trying to check out their dick size this is just the type of therapy that i think the country needs no i think you would be a great attorney general.
30:53Angie Sullivan:And I think you could find a way around the law to do that. Well, I mean, if Pam Bondi can do it, I've got to be smarter than her, right? I mean, Todd Blanch, I've got to be smarter than him. Like I'm embarrassed if I'm not. Gotta be. But this would be your, your main initiative. I would love that. Can we look at Cash Patel's too, just for shits and giggles? A hundred percent. He's on board, but here's this. A lot of these men are just broken straight men. You know, Cash Patel's, I bet, I bet his is like country music sensation orgies, you know okay can we add just one thing to my position yeah I think this would be I think this I'd be really good at this too like I've got a strip search cash I've got it with the measuring tape cash this explains so much oh you want to do a paint live yeah I want to just like line them up and just be like oh yeah that would really that's like your make-a-wish foundation right there so So if you could line up all the men and would you, would you go gloves or would you raw dog?
31:57Angie Sullivan:Because I would say if I, if I, if I'm the president, this is science. Right. So, and I, and I think you have to have a ruler, your glasses on and you have to be the measure. I might be in a hazmat suit to make sure I don't germ it up. No, I think you have to be dressed kind of slutty. You know how Christy known when she dresses up like a plumber and a CPA and she's trying to look like a sexy CPA. I think just for America, for the healing, you have to take the sag and dragons and you have to be dressed quasi slutty. Yeah. Like, I mean, push up bra, maybe like a sexy nurse. Yeah. Yeah. No hazmat suit.
32:31Angie Sullivan:There's no fun in that. Like in order to really humiliate them, I think it has to be like, you have to let your femininity be on full display. Which is tough for me, but I would do it for the cause. But you know, it just, my hypothesis is all of these guys have sexual issues or little bitty peonies and like so this would be real science i bet i could write it up i mean if rfk can be hhs secretary maybe i'll write an article for the american journal of medicine about we have found the we found the link maybe you could do what rfk did to that raccoon you could just castrate one of them keep it home to look at and study for after a little bit of time you can just lorraine bobbit that shit for our younger listeners Lorraine Ababa was this woman that got mad at her husband, Joey Buttafuoco, and she cut his dick off, got in the car, drove down the street and threw the cock out the window.
33:26Angie Sullivan:I'll never forget it. Not all heroes wear capes. No, that's right. I will never forget it. I was in college and we were in a car and I remember that came on like the radio news and we were all like. It was nuts. It was crazy. It was crazy. And then they reattached it. Did you know she was released recently? Really? Yeah, I saw a TikTok that she made recently just vaguely referring to the incident and people in the comments were like, oh my God, it's the queen.
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34:43Angie Sullivan:They are breathable. They are fantastic and so soft on the feet. Listener, to grab your Paka hoodie, go to www.pakaapparel.com. That's www.pakaapparel.com. Okay, so you have some voice memos for us. Yes, I do. And this first one is from Alice. Okay. This is Alice. I'm reporting from a blue dot in a red state, Nashville, Tennessee. Hi, Jen. Hi, Pumps. So I just had an experience thanks to your episode called The Patriotic Jerkoff. I took my car in for an oil change and sat down, put my headphones in, was just relaxing, having a giggle to myself in the waiting room. And then all of a sudden, my headphones cut out.
35:41And I realized, oh, crap, the car. So the young man pulling my car around heard Jen talking about the sperm Olympics, and pumps talking about jacking off. And I reached for my phone trying to pause it. And of course, you know, I was all flustered and poor man couldn't look me in the eye. But at the end of the day, I think it's hilarious that some MAGA had to hear about jacking off and sperm and probably made him really uncomfortable. And I appreciate that deep down. Thank you, ladies, for all you do. We're hanging in here in these red states. Love you. Bye.
36:18Angie Sullivan:Think about how bad this episode is going to be. I'll tell you what, you take this one to the car wash. This is a real doozy. I mean, she starts out fat shaming and then we basically castrated all of the MAGA administration after completely committing several crimes, revealing all of their privacy, breaking several amendments. We don't care. We don't care. We are human rights violators for good, for democracy. I have to say that the blue dots and red states, man, we have to organize. Being a blue dot in a red state for so many years is so traumatizing. Because you're never a part of a national conversation.
37:01Angie Sullivan:It leaves so many good fighters out. And I just think the Democratic Party should go to Oklahoma, go to Tennessee, go to Alabama, go to Mississippi, go to Arkansas. Those are your best Democrats in the fucking country. And you know why? Because they know who the enemy is. They know how to defeat them. They know how to go low. There's no going high when you're a blue dot and a red state. They know how to get scrappy. They understand the assignment and they also understand how dangerous MAGA super majorities are. You know, in New York, I always get so tickled. People are like, oh, we can't stand Kathy Hochul.
37:40Angie Sullivan:Yeah. And I'm like, oh, my God, what a dream. What a dream. Yeah. What a luxury. Let me tell you about Kevin Stitt, the governor of Oklahoma. this motherfucker basically is is dumber than a box of hot rocks wakes up every day look he like he's like jethro remember the beverly hillbilly yes you're like jeffro great comparison kind of looks like him a little bit too yeah just a complete dipshit a total christian nationalist thinks he's smart yeah which is the worst kind of stupid the worst stupid people are the ones that think they're smart. That's like an extra layer of stupidity. Yeah. And that's what, that's what governor limp dick is.
38:22Angie Sullivan:I agree. And you know what? He's going to be replaced by somebody dumber because nobody listens to the blue dots and red states. So then, then it causes voter apathy. And then all of these, uh, Republicans race to the bottom and start out crazying each other. Yeah. My favorite part of that is he couldn't look me in the eye.
38:45Angie Sullivan:but see you know what she knows she knows like any any blue dot woman in a red state it's so easy to dismantle a maga man it is the easiest thing on the planet but the coastal democrats you know they won't go there and it's just so fucking easy i would just launch pumps to talk about penis size i mean these guys would they would because the problem with the democrats are is they let the Republicans be on offense all the time. We need to be on offense. Yeah. We need to be crazy and go, I don't understand what the, this party's deal is with genitalia. My only thing I can assume is that Moses Mike Johnson must have a small dick because I've never seen somebody talk so much about genitals, be so obsessed with gay sex.
39:32Angie Sullivan:I'm thinking he thinks about dick a lot. Does he have a big dick? Do we think? And I think you just go with it, go with it, go with it. And, and what we are doing, the democratic party, like we're past civility right now. And I know that some people will say, Oh no, but we need to be, I'm like, we need to get democracy back. Right. And then the idiots, like the immature idiots, like pumps and I will retire the podcast and we'll let the adults make boring podcasts. But until then we have to fight in the gutter, in the sandbox with our toys. Yeah, no, you're so right about that. I would love to be civil, but we're so far past that.
40:09It's in the rear view. Yeah. And it's kind of fun to be petty.
40:13Angie Sullivan:It's so fun. It really is. All right, Seth, who's next? All right. Up next is Jill. Hey, Jen Pumps, Kylie, and other males who work there. Let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with the over-babied Christian nationalists. Okay. Remember how a couple of weeks ago, dr oz was rambling in that white house meeting about how it's a problem that we're under babied no the problem is that some of these crazy fucks are over babied like the duffy family with their bullshit road trips spending our tax dollars driving around the country with their nine children who the fuck needs nine children in 2026 like do they have a farm that they need farmhands for some shit and like how many of those demons spawn has katie miller popped out already enough enough i've had it i saw that the over baby thing what's interesting about dr oz is i believe he's muslim am i right about that can you fact can you fact check that for me ryan um uh which shows you that like all the bluster and all the bullshit of of trump and all that shit is all that white Christian nationalist stuff.
41:25Angie Sullivan:It's just something they use to keep the uneducated racist rubes in the cult. But I agree with the caller. I mean, you get, I mean, somebody tells me that four or five kids, I just start, it's interesting. And that's really judgmental of me, but I just think it's too many. I kind of thought when you had three, you were really pushing it, Angie. Yeah. You know, here's the thing. I wanted four, but three was plenty. like growing up I thought why did you want race as an only child so I didn't have any siblings and that's like it's lonely to be the only one so I thought I'm gonna have this great big family and then no three I could you could talk me into threes too many I wouldn't give my third back but you know what I'm saying like of course not as a principal but even me with three kids when somebody says, yeah, we have four or five.
42:17I'm thinking you're a fucking nut, nut. And if they say you're home, we're homeschooling, I'm immediately like, get the fuck away from me. You freak like the homeschooling is, and it's always the people with the bunch of kids that are homeschooling. They, those two just go, somebody with 10 kids probably didn't send their kid to school. They're probably homeschooling. Totally.
42:40Angie Sullivan:They always do go hand in hand, which I thought about this yesterday in the shower. I don't know why this came into my brain, but I decided to wait. You know, I don't know. I just think about weird shit. And, um, I remembered when we were younger and your husband had settled a case for a large amount of money. So listener, Angie's ex-husband was an attorney and he'd been working on this case and they'd been through hell with their marriage. And it was like, she was kind of clinging on that. Okay. At least he settles this case and my husband sucks, but at least maybe I'll have money. Let's just call it what it is.
43:17Angie Sullivan:High, high end prostitution, marriage wise. Exactly. Exactly. And I, I wanted you to have it. You earned that money. I sure did. I remember asking you at the time, and we've never talked about this. So it'll be interesting to talk about it. I don't even remember. I asked you at the time, so what are you going to do with the money? And you said, well, I told Kirk, you know, we'll put this amount in this kid's college fund, this amount in this kid's college fund, and this amount in this kid's college fund. And then it was like double the amount of all of those for, uh, Emily, which is her daughter listener for Emily's wedding fund.
43:51Angie Sullivan:That was him. That was not me. That way he was you. No, but I'm, but he was the one that insisted on that. But, and now I'm like, my daughter and I are going to get a war over this because I don't value marriage. So I don't think, I mean, I want to, you're doing a little revisionist history. I remember specifically asking many conversations about it. And I remember specifically asking, I go, what if she doesn't want to get married? And you were like, well, no, she just will. I mean, that's what I go. What about the weddings for the sons? And you were like, well, no, they're, it was very patriarchal and you were very defensive.
44:28Yeah. The white, the Emily post, the woman pays for the wedding. the groom's pay. Yeah. I can see all of that, but I just, I found it so odd that he, I mean, I was probably all in it. I'm not saying I wasn't, I'm just saying like, I remember him bringing it up more. Like I didn't think of that. He thought of it. That's interesting. Given his history.
44:50Angie Sullivan:Who knows? But it's interesting. Like, I remember when you said it, it was probably, I don't know, mid 2000, like 20, 2008 or something. And I remember thinking like, Like, wow, that seems so old fashioned. Not that if somebody wants to put a saving somewhere to help their kids pay for their wedding. But I also think like with where we are now, and of course our record on the podcast, I think we've determined through our own research that the more you spend on the wedding, the sooner the divorce comes. Yes. We have conducted that. We've conducted that research. You look at it because it's more like I look back.
45:29I was more interested in the wedding than I was the marriage. And it wasn't even close. I was interested in the bridesmaids, in the parties, in the dresses. The husband was just something I had to the box I had to check to get all the other stuff. And you can see how great that worked out for me. You can see that was rock solid thinking on my part.
45:53Angie Sullivan:So this is just obvious shit. So, you know, I told you I went to these two really, really, really expensive weddings. And I'm talking these people had to have spent three, four,$500 ,000. And both are divorced. And these were in the last 10 years. Both divorced. Anyway, let's move on from this. And let's do one final voice memo. Last one is from Colin. I just listened to your last episode where you talked about whitelash, i.e. the backlash of white people against the Obama years. I've had it with that, but I also want to just take it a step further and say what very few people are saying. And that is that White Lash isn't just, you know, a response to Black power.
46:39It is an internalization of white inadequacies. They see this Ivy League educated Black man rise to the highest political office in the world alongside his Ivy League educated wife, who has since become a global cultural icon. Meanwhile, these people couldn't scratch all the white privilege together in their life to buy themselves a ticket out of Fishkill, New York. It's pathetic. It's sad. It's finger pointy. And I've had it.
47:10Angie Sullivan:Well, Colin, I just I just can't agree with that anymore. White. Yeah. I'm going to white inadequacy. That is definitely what is on display with the MAGA regime. I completely agree. And putting people down based on race, sexuality, and all that, that's all they have because they know how bad they sat. Like they could not survive in a meritocracy. So they have to make somebody else feel terrible. I agree. And I think if you're threatened by somebody else's excellence, it just shows how broken you are as a person. I'm always so happy when my friends, if they make more money than me, if they have more successful jobs or happier relationships.
47:53Angie Sullivan:I don't see that as an affront to my existence. But with MAGA, they see anything that a marginalized person accomplishes on their own right with all of the odds stacked against them, without having everything teed up for a drive down the fairway like the white people have. If they see them succeed, then it's just, you know, like jealous party of one, your table's now available. And a white, bigoted jealousy, a white, bigoted, jealous person is one of the most dangerous things on the planet. All right, please subscribe to this podcast. Subscribe to our other podcast, I hip news, order my book. It's called not today fascist.
48:33Angie Sullivan:And the link is right below in the show notes. And we will see you guys later.
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