In short
The hosts vent about app/phone update hassles, then praise a surprisingly efficient New York DMV visit (music, fast service, friendly staff). They also react to right-wing media figures: Jennifer Welch headlines, Katie Miller’s “Grey’s Anatomy went woke” rant, and Candace Owens’ speculative claims about Charlie Kirk’s death. They argue that religious indoctrination and evangelical shame can be abusive, citing exvangelical trauma and therapy.
Guests
No guests appear; it’s a three-person host conversation (Jennifer Welch, “Pumps,” and Kylie). “Roman” is mentioned as Jennifer’s son.
Key claims
App updates shouldn’t force users to relearn logins; underfunded government agencies create misery; evangelical “born bad”/hell messaging is child abuse; Katie Miller is “unhinged” for blaming TV for social change; Candace Owens’ conspiracy framing is entertainment and possibly profit-driven.
Notable examples
New York DMV at 145 West 30th Street with staffer Jackie and DJ; Grey’s Anatomy LGBTQ/ICE/BLM storylines; Candace Owens suggesting Charlie Kirk was killed because he refused to kill her.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFrustrations with App Updates
0:10 to 2:16
Discussion on the annoyance of re-entering credentials after app updates.
“Patriots, gay-triots, they-triots, black-triots, brown-triots, and any of the triots I might forget.”
Self-Critique and Body Positivity
2:16 to 4:14
A candid conversation about self-image and the importance of self-kindness.
“The complications with managing a smartphone can be overwhelming, especially at your advanced stage.”
Surprisingly Pleasant DMV Experience
4:14 to 10:18
An unexpectedly positive story about a visit to the DMV and its efficiency.
“Don't be so narcissistic about your parents.”
Critiques of Right-Wing Headlines
10:18 to 14:01
Discussion on various right-wing headlines and the absurdities surrounding them.
“I'm going to lose my real idea as soon as I get it.”
Critique of Evangelical Parenting
14:01 to 15:30
The hosts discuss the implications of raising children within evangelical Christianity and its potential harms.
“I mean, she really leads by example, because I definitely want to be Erica Kirk.”
The Emotional Impact of Religious Upbringing
15:31 to 17:40
The hosts share personal experiences of how indoctrination affects mental health and personal identity.
“and that if they do not blindly obey their parents and their pastor and their megachurch pastor, by the way, and God, that they're going to burn in hell forever.”
Understanding Shame in Religion
17:41 to 19:54
Discussion on the pervasive shame instilled by religious teachings and its long-term effects.
“ramifications of your, and I'm not an existential person necessarily, but you're, you have to say, okay, everything that I thought about the world is wrong.”
Understanding Shame in Religion
19:55 to 21:38
Discussion on the pervasive shame instilled by religious teachings and its long-term effects.
“But I think another thing that you're indoctrinated with is shame.”
Understanding Shame in Religion
21:42 to 21:56
Discussion on the pervasive shame instilled by religious teachings and its long-term effects.
“That's q-u-i-n-c-e.com slash had it for free shipping and 365 day returns.”
Understanding Shame in Religion
21:57 to 23:02
Discussion on the pervasive shame instilled by religious teachings and its long-term effects.
“and I came home from work and there was water all over my wood floor.”
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Criticism of Katie Miller's Views
23:20 to 26:17
The hosts react to Katie Miller's statements on cultural representation in media and critique her perspectives.
“About two to three seasons in, you start to have a lesbian couple and a lesbian actor.”
Addressing Hate and Accountability
26:18 to 28:08
A passionate response to the nature of hate speech and personal accountability in public discourse.
“But on top of that, that's the nicest thing I can say about you is that you're stupid.”
Critique of Katie Miller's Misery
28:08 to 37:22
Explore the absurdity of Katie Miller's worldview and her fixation on multiculturalism.
“And then I hope then they say, and here's what the wives were doing.”
Candace Owens' Outrageous Claims
37:22 to 42:01
Discuss Candace Owens' recent remarks and her tendency to escalate absurd narratives.
Entertainment or Journalism?
42:01 to 45:50
Discussion on the blurred lines between entertainment and journalism in media.
“she's just making so much money because her videos get millions, right?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Jennifer:So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, gay-triots, they-triots, black-triots, brown-triots, and any of the triots I might forget. We love you. And these fascists can do what, Pumps? Fuck off! All right, Pumps, what have you had it with? today, Jennifer, I've had it with so many things. Like I could start right now and never take a breath because I have a litany of habits. I'm just going to go with the one that has me the most hot and bothered. And that is you go into an app and it says you have to update this version. Okay, it's fine. You want to brag about your new technology?
0:47Fine with that. What bothers me and what I've had it with is once you update the app, then you have to reenter your username and password and you don't get the life hack of your phone just putting it in for you. This happened to me this morning. I can't get in to a banking app that I've had for 16 years because I don't know the fucking username and ID. Well, I don't know what I had for breakfast, okay? So let's start there. So that's my problem. But 17 years, I don't think anybody should be expected to remember something for 17 years. So now what has to happen is I have to get my fat ass into the car and I have to go to the bank and I have to tell them.
1:34And they're like, oh, you can just send it to your email. No, I can't because fucking hackers hacked into that email. And now I don't have that email anymore. On top of that, the new email that I had that Kylie set up, I'm going to have to tell them is 69 at the end. Then after all of that, I'm going to go back and use the same app that I've been using for 17 years. But I have to do all that and spend my whole day fucking with it. Because nobody wants the customer to be able to use anything easily. It's just a fuck you, fuck you, fuck you if you're a user of an app. And I've had it and I'm sick of it and I'm tired, tired, tired of it.
2:16Don't help me with technology. Just keep it the same.
2:20Jennifer:I hear you. The complications with managing a smartphone can be overwhelming, especially at your advanced stage. And so I have incredible empathy for you. The whole password thing and logins, the point that you make about an old email address, that's where it gets you every single time. Every time? Because I have an old email address that was entered in like in 2009 when I first got an iPhone. And now I don't use that email any longer. And then there's some rogue app somewhere. But the stuff that's supposed to make our lives easier sometimes makes it far more complicated. And it's phone updates, app updates, computer updates.
3:10Jennifer:The updates are never updates to me. They're down dates. They're down dates. You're right. It makes it harder. Yeah. They're not improvements. They're not. They're not improvements. months and I've also had it with my forehead and I'm this close to going to get bangs today because the older I get, the bigger my forehead gets, the saggier my boobs get. And I just, I feel like. Stop it. Stop it. You just called yourself a badass. You just critiquing your appearance all the time. We spoke about your bikinis the other day and you just bashed your stomach. You in the last two years have lost a hundred pounds.
3:48Jennifer:You look incredible. Be kind to yourself. I know that, but don't you exercise? No, I think you look gorgeous. Quit micromanaging your appearance. You look better now than you did at 40. You look awesome. Quit being so mean to yourself. Quit micromanaging your appearance. Like I said, you are getting up there and you look incredible. You look a million times better in your 50s than you did in your 30s and your 40s. You take incredible care of yourself. You are sober. You exercise every day. All of the things you used to do brow beat me for exercising now become a part of your everyday life used to brow beat me for being you know particular about my meals and now you're that way your skin looks incredible your hair looks incredible your figure looks incredible don't be so hard on yourself quit calling yourself old quit calling yourself fat quit picking on your forehead i've had it that's my i've had it be nice to yourself well thank you jennifer i really appreciate that because every time i look at this, I just think your forehead is growing.
4:52Jennifer:No, it doesn't. Stop it. Stop. Stop fixating on yourself. You look great. Stop it. Don't be so narcissistic about your parents. For fuck's sake, stop it. Stop it. I've had it. I've absolutely had it with that. Be kind to yourself. Be kind. Think about where you were three years ago and where you are today. It is a 180 degree turn. well thank you and you know that so stop stop nitpicking yourself it's not healthy and i'm not going to tolerate it at all mad at me not really it takes too much energy to be mad at you pumps um okay the uh i don't have and i've had it other than you being not being nice to yourself um but that i've had it that i want to do today is a, I get it, I guess, or I'm into it, hit it.
5:43Jennifer:I hit it. So there's this, there's this accepted rule in the world that, that the DMV is a miserable experience. And all of my experiences at the DMV until yesterday have been that. Miserable experiences. Yesterday, my son and I went to the New York DMV at 145 West 30th Street, the express DMV. We filled out all of our paperwork in advance online. We booked an appointment. We walked right in. We scanned the code for our appointments. They gave us a number and I was like, here we go. Set down less than 30 seconds. Our number was called. We took our photographs. They sent us back down with the same number.
6:33Jennifer:She's like, you need to go and sit back down. They'll call you up again now that your photo's done. So I was certain that that's when I was going to sit there for hours. Again, 30 seconds. a gal named Jackie with a smile and a can-do attitude helped us and not only that they have a DJ an assigned employee that plays a playlist and it was like soul hip-hop rhythm and blues and I mean Jackie and I as we're doing it we're both kind of bouncing the whole time and then I look over at my son Roman we're all and I go who says the DMV isn't lit so I want to say this to the city of New York City, to the state of New York, the efficiency, the workplace environment, the can-do attitude, allowing your employees to play great music, to make a workplace that exudes joy in a infamous, infamous, miserable place like the DMV.
7:35I am now looking forward to losing my
7:39Jennifer:license so I can go back and see Jackie and we can bust out a couple of eight counts because from start to finish, going in and going out was a 10 minute deal. Really? Yep. 145 West 30th Street, New York, New York, Jackie. You know, very few things do I love more than efficiency. And it sounds like this was just a masterclass on efficiency. It was incredible. How nice to hear that. How nice when your government works for you, when it is run efficiently, where the employees are happy and you go into a workplace that there's nothing sexy or lit about the DMV, but I'll tell you the employees at 145 West 30th Street have made it as such.
8:22Jennifer:I had the best time at the DMV. I got a little exercise. I popped out a couple of eight counts. I made a friend in Jackie. I had the, it was high times. So I'm not going to be negative this episode. I've decided because of my experience at the DMV. Yeah. I mean, that really makes me happy because I'm fondly remembering my DMV appointment. That was the carpet was so fucking nasty. I probably could have gotten a disease just looking at it. The lines were slow. We are still check marking off on paper. I don't think there's an option to fill out online. So I, I am very jealous and congratulations.
9:02That just sounds fantastic.
9:04Jennifer:It was incredible. It was just an incredible experience. Kylie, have you gotten your New York license yet? I have not. I'll tell you who to go to. Jackie. Jackie. 145 West 30th Street. At the DMV. I'm kind of excited about that. That makes me kind of want to do it. I'm just telling you, I mean, it's incredible how efficient it is. And that's why I think people like with Zoran Mamdani, it's like, everybody's like, oh, he's going to do all this shit and Sharia and all this crazy, you know, just conspiratorial, you know, how scared MAGA is, or, you know, shit their pants about comedians and all sorts of shit.
9:37Jennifer:But he's doing things where he's showing that government works for the city, like the potholes and things. Obviously, the DMV is the New York state. But when you see a state that funds these agencies that we need, We need to make sure people have licenses. We need to make sure their identification is legitimate, et cetera, et cetera, where it's funded and it is not a miserable experience. Then it makes you realize, OK, I'm going to work. I'm going to vote for politicians that will deliver for me. So it almost makes you think it's intentional in a state like Oklahoma to underfund the DMV so that the electorate hates the fucking government all the time because they're incompetent.
10:16And so I just want to say blue state, blue policies, great DMV.
10:22Jennifer:That's all I'm going to say. It's anecdotal, but I'm into it. I want to go back. I'm going to lose my real idea as soon as I get it. Why don't you come with me? Just throw it away the minute you get it so you can go back. You know, Kylie, I don't really like to go out. I'm quite agoraphobic in the evenings after I filmed, with the exception of walking my canines. So that might be a date for us. I'll chaperone you to the DMV to see my friends. I think we found a way for us to just hang out. You can introduce her to your new chosen people. You know what my favorite part about that is the DJ. Because music does, like, it just kind of, it's hard to be mad if music, good music's playing.
10:59Like elevator music, not talking about that. But like fun music, it's hard to be mad and stuffy about that.
11:06Jennifer:I agree. All right, Kylie, what do you have for us today? You know what, I've got to hit it today as well. Oh, good. It is all the right wing headlines that have been going on about you two. Oh, good. I love this. I collected a couple for you. Okay. The first one is from Mediaite. And they literally wrote in their headline, quote, he liked cock dot dot dot and he liked killing. Jennifer Welch mocks Lindsey Graham after his death in shock rant. Where's the lie? That's what I thought when I saw this. And where's the shock? I will tell you this in terms of positivity. I have seen a million people talking about Lindsey Graham.
11:49And 100 % of them, like, he was gay and he shut the door on gay people after him. So I don't even think, like, classifying the fact that Lindsey Graham likes cock, that's not shocking. Everybody knew about it. And he advertised on Fox News he's into killing. So the fact that this was a shock rant, I agree, was completely disingenuous.
12:13Jennifer:I completely agree. I'm just like, where's the lie? And why is this newsworthy? And why are y 'all playing possum? Why are you acting like dumbasses? I mean, everybody, even Republicans, everybody on the planet says, of course, Lindsey Graham was gay. It's a known secret. There's the whole ladybug reporting. Then there's the the actress, Jesse James Rose, that came out who, you know, nobody has fact checked it. And I believe her. I believe her that Lindsey Graham paid her a stack of cash while he was dressed in his red panties and hired her to do sex acts on him. And I believe her. And I think that there is an abundance of these.
12:47Jennifer:And I mean, clearly, all he talked about was killing his big war hawk on the planet. it. I'm just, I appreciate the media attention on these things. And I would like to give a shout out and a welcome to the New York Post interns that are watching the show, and especially a shout out to the Fox interns that started watching our show. So that Greg, Jesse, and others have something to talk about other than the fact that your political party is a anti-family pro-pedophilia death cult guys all right here's another one um i really like this one headline is crusty white person jennifer welch says crusty white people need to embrace multiculturalism oh burn burn okay and then we've got another one here jennifer welch is jealous of erica kirk because she looks like a shriveled turnip and nobody loves her that's it you was here's this Sam J.
13:47Jennifer:That's the author. Yeah, this is from Twitchy, I believe is the yeah, I'm so jealous of Erica Kirk. Every day I wake up and I'm just like, Oh, my God, I want Erica Kirk's life. That looks incredible. Yeah. I mean, she really leads by example, because I definitely want to be Erica Kirk. You know, here's the thing, Jennifer, I just want to go on record that I love you. So somebody loves you. Me. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Okay. And then pumps, you're not in the clear. I've got one for you. It says screechy insufferable woman casually admits on podcasts that she hated being around her own children.
14:26That's true. That's a hundred percent. All of it's true. Screechy insufferable. I didn't want to be among my kids. That's true. I like them way better now.
14:37Jennifer:Oh God. But, you know, it's just so fantastic that they like the critiques like that. They think it like hurt like that. That would hurt our feelings or that that they think like every woman wants to be like Erica Kirk. And it's just the two different realities, like nothing in any of that, even remotely. I think my blood pressure went down. I think my beat per minute went down because it's so not newsworthy, any of it, nor does it rile me up. But I was tagged in something on Instagram the other day. I went ahead and re-shared it, but it was like some right wing rag. And it's like Jennifer Welch says, raising your children as Christians is child abuse.
15:25Jennifer:And it was the conversation that we were having about evangelical Christianity. and telling your children that they are born bad and that if they do not blindly obey their parents and their pastor and their megachurch pastor, by the way, and God, that they're going to burn in hell forever. And I'm going to say it again. I think that is child abuse. And the evidence ferrets that out. There are group after group after group after group of ex, called exvangelicals who have religious trauma and religious suffering. So you can all you want try to make me into the boogeyman on this. But the fact still remains that these people have been abused and they have still been traumatized.
16:09Jennifer:It's kind of like your fool's errand, MAGA, with trans people. You can try to erase them all you want to and bully them and diminish them. And in your mind, you think you're going to defeat them. But the fact will remain trans people exist. And so the fact remains that the megachurch boom of the 80s is doing incredibly abusive work to people that it takes decades for them to reconcile and deprogram out of. And pumps can speak to that. Still working on it. Let me just tell you something. It's when everything you've ever known and been taught, when you figure out that it's bullshit, it rocks your world.
16:56It rocks who you are, what you think. It causes great angst and shame. Like, how could I have been so stupid? When you have critical thinking on points A, B, C, and D, but you are so willing to throw that away on other points. That creates turmoil and unrest and sadness and anxiety and just an all over unrest in your inner soul. And then not only that, when you figure out this is not going to work, this is not real. I've been doing everything I'm supposed to do and I'm in a thousand times worse position than if I would have been logical and critically thinking my whole life. not only do you have to deal with the ramifications of your choices, then you have to deal with the ramifications of your, and I'm not an existential person necessarily, but you're, you have to say, okay, everything that I thought about the world is wrong.
17:58And now I have to review and reperspective the view of the world. And then that includes looking at the people in your life that indoctrinated you with that. And then you have to suffer with one thing that was so important to my mother. It's something that we can never be aligned on. Something that I know would cause her so much harm and hurt. And I have to be on the opposite side of that. That is not fun. That is very hard. I have cried many tears over that. So it is lifelong. It is not easy. It is painful out the gazoo. And it makes you feel like a dumb shit on top of everything else. So I know that this is real because I have been in therapy over it for over a decade.
18:57At least eight years on this specific topic.
19:01Jennifer:Yeah. Yeah, I think it's really sad. I think that obviously growing up in the Bible, not only you, but other people I've known. Some people kind of early, like Kylie, you know, in college was kind of like the sensing ride and moved on. But the people who go later in life like you, it's even harder to unpack. And the shame that the religion puts on you would far supersede the shame of being brainwashed and indoctrinated, in my opinion. Shame that if you have a lustful thought. Shame that if you are not, quote unquote, obedient to God. That to me is the far more damaging component of shame, the brainwashing component of the shame, than any shame you would feel afterwards.
19:45Jennifer:So think about it in those terms, because the shame that I saw you carry with your religion was far, far, far, far, far, far bigger than what I see now, because I don't really see any. No, I agree with that. But I think another thing that you're indoctrinated with is shame. Shame becomes your passenger as a child, because God reads your thoughts and he can tell you what's going on. You know what I mean? And that's the abuse. That's where the abuse is. That's it. It's just it's to me. It's incredibly abusive to tell a kid if you don't believe this way, if you don't think this way, Satan's going to torture you forever.
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24:01About two to three seasons in, you start to have a lesbian couple and a lesbian actor. And then probably in the 2010s, that's when you start seeing a gay marriage. Then you see gay adoption. And then you start going. And I'm going to pull this open because I actually have, I noted this the other day. By 2017, we had a trans man. In 2018, we had multiple different deportation themes with ICE officers in Grey's Anatomy. In 2021, they started to show Black Lives Matter riots where you had people actually being injured by police officers and the demonization of police. In 2021, you also had white men apologizing for being white to black actors.
24:44In 2022, there were multiple characters of different ethnicities and body types. This is when we're supposed to celebrate the fatness of America and this body-conscious lifestyle that has since been a relic of the past thanks to GLP once. And this is where you deviate from Hollywood as a society, from what it looks like as America. Because why are they pushing this on you? Why are they pushing that everyone should be gay and lesbian and transgender? And that's when Hollywood stopped being about entertainment and started pushing their political beliefs on Americans. And so that's what I've done with my postpartum life thus far.
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25:17as I sat here and watched Grey's Anatomy and thought about how it's corrupted all of us as society.
25:23Jennifer:Katie, you ignorant slut. All you have to do is not watch Grey's Anatomy. It is a free fucking country. No thanks to Stephen Miller's efforts to make it something other than this, but for you to volunteer under your own volition to get your remote control and watch episode after episode after episode after episode, and then become a victim of your very own choices, perfectly encapsulates what a dipshit, what a twat, what an insufferable scumbag you are. This is personal accountability. I thought this was the epicenter of MAGA shit. Guess what? I don't watch MAGA shit. I feel dumber for having had to watch that for this podcast because I would never in a million years sit down and watch your podcast and then become a victim of it because I think you're stupid.
26:17Jennifer:And I think people that watch your podcast lose IQ points. But on top of that, that's the nicest thing I can say about you is that you're stupid. You are a bigot. You are a racist. You are a vile human being of the highest order. You want to, what tell lesbians they can't have plot lines on Grey's Anatomy? Who the fuck do you think you are? And why the fuck are you so scared about gays, lesbians, gay marriage, trans people, BLM? Have you ever really sat down with the black community and understood what over-policing means? Oh God, no, because that would mean you would have to have critical thinking and empathy.
26:58Jennifer:So fuck off, Katie Miller. Fuck you. I absolutely applaud everything you just said. And as I'm listening to that, like her gripes, they're putting this on screen, Hollywood's doing all this. This is the shit that's happening in real life. This is what's going on. Homosexual people marry other homosexual people and they have children. The police actually did and continue to kill Black people. Like none of this is anything out. It's not like Shonda Rhimes sat down and said, I'm going to make up a story today. I'm going to just pull from the air. So the fact that she is so disconnected from reality and what's actually happening.
27:42And I'm just going to say this, Katie, you are on Fox news every day talking about how teenagers need to have mothers and the declining birthright. You have discovered motherhood. Like you're the first person to do it. why aren't you at home with your fucking kid why are you not sitting at home breastfeeding and braiding hair instead of sitting and spreading hate and on your post when you had this fourth or second generation nazi fourth in line in your family you posted we our house it's full of joy love and laughter you are not full of joy love and laughter you are full of hate cruelty and being eaten up with the dumb shits i fucking cannot stand this woman and i will just say adding on to an episode that we had not long ago i googled it katie miller is 5 '1 on the internet the picture of her and steven miller he's maybe an inch taller so we got 5 '2 that's my bet
28:45Jennifer:on him okay i'm done yeah um it's just it is it is wild to me how how these people get triggered so easily like the antidote to how miserable she is is multiculturalism right and she chooses misery every single day like i cannot imagine deciding to wake up and watch a show like if i were to watch some i don't know some evangelical christian themed show and then i did a whole podcast rant about how much i fucking hated it i hope that you all would look at me and go don't fucking watch it you have autonomy you have free will to not watch the show i newsflash katie liberal atheist progressive leftist all the stuff antifa all the stuff y 'all want to say about me never watched one episode of gray's anatomy despite not ever watching that i support every single plot line that you you said love it support it not triggered by it love that you're triggered by it so glad you put this in the video permanent record forever so that my grandkids when they go to school and they learn about this era they talk about the Nazi fascists and they go over your son and then they talk, I mean, your husband, probably son at some point too, they go over your husband and all the shit that he did, basically copying Joseph Goebbels' speeches, et cetera.
30:19Jennifer:And then I hope then they say, and here's what the wives were doing. And I hope they play that clip right there. And I hope everybody in the class goes, God, well, because I know they will. Because anyway let's go on there's more she also later hit send she made a tweet okay and then she hit send on it reiterating the exact same crazed thoughts on the show pop this up i've spent the last month re-watching gray's anatomy from season one grays premiered on abc in 2005 before hollywood went woke. In the first season, there were no gay characters, despite the actor actually being gay. By the 2010s, we had a lesbian couple.
31:04Jennifer:Oh my God, sound the sirens, a lesbian couple. By 2017, we had a trans man. By 2018, we had multiple scenes with deportation thieves and ICE officers. In 2021, we had riots against the police where people were getting injured by police in 2021. We had white men apologizing for being white. In 2022, there were multiple characters of differing ethnicities and body types. Oh my God. Oh my God. Multiple characters of different skin colors. Jesus Christ, what is going on with America? Then in 2022, we had a toddler boy dressed as a girl who wanted to transition. In 2022, they introduced a non-binary character.
31:53Jennifer:Grey's Anatomy has been on TV for so long that it's starting to Hollywood fully butcher entertainment in a short time span. Can you imagine that you would make a podcast about what a nut you are, how unhinged you are, and how untriggered you are. And in case people's medium of learning isn't video, you thought, I want to make sure the people who absorb information through reading truly understand what a coward and how triggered and what a snowflake I am. So I'm going to go and put it in writing and publish it as well. So that every motherfucker on the planet, regardless of how they learn. I'm going to Montessori this thing.
32:39Jennifer:I'm going to meet people where they are. And I'm going to show them exactly how triggered and unhinged I am by things that affect my life. Zero. Right. Zero. None of these things, Grey's Anatomy, the lesbian couple, the trans character, the non-binary character. My favorite is multiple characters of differing ethnicities none of those things affect katie miller's life the main thing that affects her life is her right and steven miller which is her she chooses every day she chooses on purpose to sleep in the bed with him she chooses to breed with him she does all of that on purpose so she is her problem all of her problems start and end with her you're totally right and here's the thing And Grey's Anatomy is like 21 seasons.
33:31I mean, he's been on the air for like 20 plus years. I imagine by the time she ends, it's probably. She's taking notes on her phone. Like this is, I don't like this. I'm going to own the libs. There's a black person on this show. There's a lesbian.
33:48Jennifer:There is a lesbian couple. I mean, like what the fuck? Imagine how vanilla her life must be. I have a lesbian sitting five feet from me right here. You know, I mean, I have a gay employee 15 feet away from me right here. When I leave here and walk down in the middle of the streets, it's going to be multiculturalism out the wazoo. She must live in a world around a bunch of white people, which brings us to, we all just saw the video of her. Kylie still shot. Is this a Caucasian? I don't give a shit about this stuff. But if somebody said, this is my friend Katie, and then I met her for a while, I'd say, what's her ethnicity?
34:35Jennifer:Where is she from? If somebody said Iran, I'd go, yeah, that tracks. I agree. And no, Iranian people are some of the most fabulous. I mean, she's got great hair. I mean, I hate giving her any compliment. But that isn't exactly white Anglo-Saxon shit right there. she appears to me to be the exact racial profile that i is going to arrest like being married to steven miller and full of hate would not protect her from an ice raid because she looks the part and that's what she fails to see is that she is going or does she see it and that's why she's trying to whitewash yeah by talking about uh uh in 2022 there are multiple characters of different ethnicities and body types yeah let's talk about let's talk about a body type katie let's dive right in steven miller could you get his body type up let's dive into steven miller's body type let's do it because i i find it offensive i find it offensive that he and jesse waters flirt with reckless abandon i think it's so disrespectful to your marriage katie um i find it incredibly insulting that okay look at the height right there she's 5 '1 five three tops I'm saying five two it's just these people are insufferable on every every scale if you had a scale of a hundred marks of an insufferable person she would be platinum score winner every time only to be outdone by her fucking husband I mean, this is a couple that should have immediately been taken out of the gene pool immediately.
36:37These are the two people that, according to reports that I read around the time of their wedding, these were these these people were so fucking miserable that the only other person on planet Earth that would even date them, much less marry and breed with them, were each other. This was the classic, as you told me once early on in my marriage debacle, this is craziness moth to a flame.
37:07Jennifer:There's not a planet in the world. Nothing about these people is normal. No. Nothing. And anyway, I want to move on from this. I think we've browbeat her enough for today. Just today. Just today. Okay, let's move on to Candace Owens. Candace Owens always manages to somehow out crazy herself and I admire I hate to say it I admire this trait I really do and I I know it's terrible but I want to be honest with the viewer in the listener this week she has done the impossible and made Charlie Kirk's murder even more about herself pop this up wow cinema shotgun rights candace owens is now saying that charlie kirk might have been killed because he refused to kill her instead of dialing things back after the preliminary hearing she's dialing things up with even more outrageous claims than ever and she's psychotically referring to herself in the third person while doing so play the clip i know what my gut has told me about the situation from the moment that it took place i know what beyond my gut and beyond my dreams is it fair to ask if it's plausible is it fair to to ask the question if it was literally supposed to be me who was supposed to be back on tour with charlie did he did he say no to killing candace owens it's incredible and then did he become a liability because he said no what did what did charlie turn down from bb netanyahu while erica was there i don't buy it guys i think this is uh darker than we could ever imagine yes yes inject that into my veins i fucking love that shit it would only have been better had she roped in bridget macron into that i i mean i just if she just and maybe tomorrow she will candace can't rule it out please please please please admit that somehow bridget macron is in on this baby charlie kirk they were supposed to kill you but then brigitte brigitte said no no let's not kill candace let's kill charlie i mean brigitte brigitte has to be involved in this after all of the battling that you've had online with brigitte that is incredible that is incredible no notes except for the brigitte mccrone that's my only note slide and fruit When you're doing the weave, you got to weave in Brigitte.
40:06Here's the thing. What did this say about me? That when I see a Candace Owen clip, I'd never fail to stop and watch it. That I find her, she's so crazy and I get that. But there is a part of me, I like watching her. just the crazy part intrigues me the delivery just the absolute I am as serious as a heart attack and I'm gonna look in the camera and I'm gonna be crazy and I'm not gonna apologize for it like there's a part of me that I yeah I just I like watching Candace Ellen clips I do I know that makes me just no it doesn't here's the thing the crazy people we've always liked crazy people you
40:57Jennifer:in Mean Pumps. I mean, we have all of these people that you and I secretly go check their Instagrams that are spiraling out that, I mean, you know, are people that we know from Oklahoma City that have stage five meltdowns. And I'm like, tap the vein, can't get enough. Hope they post tomorrow. This is fantastic. And it's fucked up and I get it all that. But here's, there's something about seeing a crazy person that's really unhinged and her confidence in her crazy and the delivery is so good but there's something about it that makes you go okay i'm fucked up but i'm not candace owens fucked up um obviously uh i think a lot of people watch candace owens just for complete entertainment the danger with the candace owens is she is a good communicator yeah and she is she is great at delivery and she uh uh is a pathological liar and probably grifter and all of this shit.
41:51Jennifer:I wonder if we hooked her up to like True Sermon, a polygraph. Like, does she believe this shit? Or is it just like, she's just making so much money because her videos get millions, right? Millions of views. So she's making, you know, massive, massive bank every month off these videos. Is it just a whole shtick? Yeah, does she get off the, does she walk off the set and just be like, God, that was bullshit. but I killed it, didn't I? Just fucking killed it. Or is she like, okay, that was good. How can I up the ante next week to make sure I keep them all on? Like I basically said they wanted to kill me, but instead they killed Charlie or Charlie was going to kill me.
42:33Jennifer:And she's like, I got it. Brigitte. Brigitte. That's what that's missing. Yeah, yeah. And then, and then, and as this trial goes on, so will her either pathological lies and or slash psychosis. But, you know, like, Honestly, our podcast and our and Candace Owens podcast and Fox News should have a label on it that says entertainment. I agree. I'm going to put our our news podcast in that category. We're not journalists. We we use the hard, good work that journalists do and cover their stories and the reporting. And then we have analysis on it. But Candace Owens, Erica Kirk, I've had it, IHIP News and other shows like this, Fox News, should be labeled as entertainment.
43:29Jennifer:And then we need to have a regulatory agency that isn't controlled by these fascists where there are standards for journalism, where it is the real truth. Because journalism is such an important guardrail. And when you look at so many injustices of corporations exploiting human beings, think about the movie Erin Brockovich. Well, that's based on a true story. Think about the movie Spotlight of the Catholic Church abuses in Boston, and obviously they were everywhere else too, and the Insider with the tobacco industry. And then we've all seen recently the opioid stuff. Journalism uncovered so much of this because journalists are seeking the truth.
44:18Jennifer:Corporations are seeking profits. And so I think that it's fine. It's a free country. Candace Owens can lie and be crazy. And, you know, we can all get kind of tickled by it. But I just think it's a real disservice that a lot of people watch that shit and they think it's real and or true. And I think it should just be ours and everybody's. It says entertainment. I agree. And I think when you look at two things, you know, when we when the documentary of Alex Jones regarding how he came to be the Sandy Hook expose. Jose. How it worked in that, according to that documentary, is they looked at the data.
44:59And the crazier, the more conspiratorial their claims were, the higher the sales of supplements and the higher the viewership. So I absolutely believe they're looking at the data. She's looking at that. Megyn Kelly's looking at that. But then I go to the Dominion lawsuit with Fox, where we see Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, all of them bad rapping Trump. And then they're getting on the air saying he's our guy. He won the election. The election was stolen. All that shit that they know are lies. So for these people in particular, like the news people, I think they know it's a lie. And I think they do it anyway because it makes them popular, makes them money, whatever the deal is.
45:45Jennifer:Money. Money. It's money. Money. That's what it is. All right. Thank you so much for tuning in to our podcast, hashtag labeled entertainment. Please preorder my book, Not Today Fascist, dedicating obviously today to Katie Miller. I hope that your Grey's Anatomy hashtag journey leads you to be more triggered because there's nothing says I am a snowflake idiot piece of shit like a grown ass woman who watches Grey's Anatomy and then has a stage 5 meltdown Katie that's not normal that is not normal I don't know about you pumps but what I do when I'm watching a show and I don't like it I change the channel I don't do a podcast about it.
46:35Jennifer:I don't tweet about it. I just changed the channel. And Katie, you can too. All right. That's all we have. We'll see you all soon.
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